Previous thread: >>50202696This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?
gonna play dragon knight soon
>>50237211I'd rather date the red haired cool girl slut over that rich bitch.
>>50237250Ojousisters, our response? But both are monkey girls, just the colors are different, but Reiko feels more sympathetic to me.
>>50237250I like Hiruta's approach towards character writing. It does make you sympathize with the rich bitch by revealing how she became that way, but she doesn't stop being a bitch. The prostitute isn't in need of your kindness, instead she begs you to treat her even rougher than her customers do.
>>50237269>The prostituteThe blue haired one?
>>50237275I meant the one from Doukyuusei 1. I didn't do this game's whore yet
The light novel general is fucking dead.Please press F.
>>50237334they moved to 4chan alternative
Many interesting titles in early 2026, alive and well medium.
>>50237389the what now
>>50237334>It's true.Fucking F.
whose medium is dead now, huh
>>50237334with how things are going here, we are likely nextsee ya on the 8th side when it inevitably does, i already have the page open to lurk
>>50237389>5 month old thread It's just as dead. People moved to discord when the hack happened and stopped posting there
>>50237657i would make a "bro you don't get it i NEED twitch chat speed posting" but you mentioned pisscord, so...
>>50237334Heavy reading mediums like LNs and VNs are dying, consequences of zoomers just being braindead
>>50237871they aren't dyingdiscussion about them outside japan however is tho
>>50237907
>>50237927>Estimated.>2021.>Estimated.
>>50237907>>50237939>2021You are right it should be even worse now
>>50237927>sao isekai boom killed LNs grim
>>50237927>>50237952>estimated
>>50237939>>50237965Here's some raw sales numbers for VNs then. You can cope all you like but the reality is that they're both dying. (VNs faster than LNs for obvious reasons)
>>50237965>>50237952>cope Written media has been on a sharp decline all over the world for 20-30 years. This really shouldn't be news to you
>>50237983>Only up to 2016.Do demoralization glowniggers never update their material?
>>50238005The information stopped being public around that time. In recent years even FANZA have stopped showing how many copies a title has sold on the VNs store page, but they barely ever reached over 20k copies sold anyway.Here's a comparison of the amount of titles being released by VN companies now vs a decade earlier. Notice anything?
Can't wait for the inevitable Rance gacha which I can whale on now that vn/eroge is cooked
>>50237983>>50237927>>50238070>less slop is badkys normoid
>>50238113I am personally waiting for dies irae gacha
>>50238116Less slop also means less masterpiece tho
>>50238113With companies like Tencent buying out Visual Arts and Bushiroad purchasing Frontwing it won't be long until the VNs themselves have gacha mechanics in them.
>>50238149Fgo , limbus ,Blue archive , reverse 1999 are already basically gacha
>>50238126i'm pretty sure there are already more masterpieces that you could realistically read in your lifetime so you'll be finealso masterpiece are moved to the doujin production, which you carefully decided to omit because it didn't suit your agenda
>>50238179Doujin game lack the polish which vn produced by bigger companies have
>>50238116Yeah it's a good thing all the companies who have a track record of releasing the non-"slop" games are still very active.
All plotge wen to gacha insteadI hope Rance 04 , Avesta of black and white , Tsukihime red garden , Ikusa megami 2 remake release next year and save this medium
>>50238179>also masterpiece are moved to the doujin productionName 5 that you have read.
>>50238213haha if only...
>>50238222Not the anon but if we are talking about good doujin game then tobira no densetsu ,demon roots, king exits , black souls , shinsetsu mahou shoujo ,Shin'yaku Boushi Sekai , Zaku Zaku Actor , Nonstories are good But they are all rpg and three of them take too much inspiration from Rance which makes them less distinguishable
>>50238179how would you feel if you hadnt eaten breakfast?
>>50238273None of them came out this year so good doujin are once in a blue moon thing
>>50238197>Doujin game lack the polish which vn produced by bigger companies haveai will level the field soon>>50238203>NOOOOOOOOO I NEED MY EDGY NITROSLOPPA #23823 PLEASE I'M STARVING>>50238222check vndb, dlsite, egs, fanza, etc...
>>50238313>check vndb, dlsite, egs, fanza, etc...But I'm interested in your taste. You're the one I'm talking to, not vndb, dlsite or whatever.Cmon, you've surely read at least one.
>>50238313Anon when AI upgrades good vn company will probably use it in more efficient way and destroy doujin games
>>50238329>But I'm interested in your taste.i don't read doujinsloppa and my taste has nothing to do with you starving for masterpieces while completely ignoring where people who actually want to make masterpieces went to
>>50238353And who are these people?
>>50238357check vndb, dlsite, egs, freem, fanza, etc... and you'll find out
>>50238393"these games/devs exist, i just uh... don't know what or who they are... but they're masterpieces, you've got to believe me!"
>>50238406keep starving lil bro, it's your problem, not mine
>>50238416I'm not. In fact I play quite a lot of doujinge and there are a few I'd consider masterpieces. Just a bit odd you'd say that masterpieces moved over to doujinge without even knowing anything about said medium.
>>50238453>I play quite a lot of doujinge and there are a few I'd consider masterpieces. thanks for confirming that i know enough about said medium then
>>50238466Yeah, also did you know that art masterpieces moved over to finger painting? I've been told that a few exist so it must be true.
If this general dies than would we move to vg?
>>50238521good for you i guess
>>50238554Weak.
>>50238552/vn/ is already half jops anyway
>>50238552Time to create blogs and share our thoughts there
>>50237391This looks like AI slop. Then again, a lot of upcoming games look like AI. It's so over.
Why do we not have blogs like this anymore?https://sakaime.wordpress.com/2016/02/28/ikusa-megami-zero-review-spoiler-free/
>>50238585hate blogs like this, the information is too sparse
This blog is more detailed but the guy stopped posting after 2020https://vnerogereview.wordpress.com/2016/02/01/the-fate-of-the-god-murderer-review-of-the-ikusa-megami-series/
>>50238564You mean MTLcucks. MTLcucks can't coexist with people who actually learned Japanese.
>>50238626as song as you aren't discussing prose you should be fine
Another step on the infinite staircase.
>>50238737I hope my dick still works when this thing is finally released.
>>50238583Retard.
>>50238961>>50238737Which vn?
>>50239006I want to know it too
>>50239006>>50239029Don't worry about it.
>>50239041This game is in development hell since 2016
>>50239141They still give updates on certain holidays each year. Which is what >>50238737 was referring to.
>>50239247How is it possible for it to take 9 years Is it a 60 hours long vn?
>>50239354lol
>>50239354Pretty sure RD took 5 years and they say this one's scope is way beyond that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCfOuEAG8h8
>>50240321I appreciate the video, but the song is atrocious.
>>50240321They even got budgets for animated opening, who are these guys? Not even Archive could afford one for Unravel Trigger.
>>50240321what in the flying fuck is that voice i thought it was chinese for a few seconds
>>50240321Is this a passion project or something like that?
>>50240321Should have done Japanese lyrics. What a miss.
>>50238585reviewing vns is kind of pointless, it's a hobby that's way too individualistic. most people here who played more than 200 have vastly different top 10s (among those who do have top 10s)
>>50240859Well put. I think of it the same as music. I know what I like and I don't care if anybody else agree or not.
>>50240859I don't think it's entirely pointless if the reviewer shares similar tastes as you. Sometimes I'd browse vndb to check commentary from others who liked the same stuff I did. I got way higher quality recommendations from them compared to any eceleb or random on social media.
>>50238585We have thoughhttps://zettairenai.wordpress.com/
>>50240321kino
>>50241366lol
>>50240859If you found a reviewer that has your same tastes and seems to like the same kind of eroge you like, then reading his impressions of new stuff can be really helpful since it means whatever he likes there is a big chance of you liking it as well, that is really helpful in this medium where stories really take a lot of time to get through
>>50241366Best girl.
>>50241366Does lamborghini knows they are getting shilled in some random japanese porn novel?
dropped
>>50240321https://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=1350408&gc=gc>This work features a large number of character portraits. In particular, each heroine comes with more than six different outfits, more than five different poses, and countless different facial expressions.>There are over 300 base images for the CG, for a total of over 1,300 images. There are also over 50 different background images, with time and weather variations available.>There are 60 songs in total, and not only the vocal tracks but some of the background music has been recorded live.
>>50241651The protagonist has voice. Will it be partial or complete?https://furikuru.com/eve-bethel/character/tachibana-kazuhito/
Where do you guys go to find discussion of VNs in Japanese? Is it just Twitter or are there other places like the equivalent of 4chan?
>>50241800The biggest VN community on earth right now is on reddit Twitter also sometimes has discussion but mostly filled with drama that will hurt your headFuwanovel and vndb are also good for discussionhttps://forums.fuwanovel.moe/https://vndb.org/If you want youtubers then meirin is good for JOP and august hail is good for EOPshttps://youtu.be/8OVUkAOmIZ8?si=tFU9X23LYI4OLTiehttps://www.youtube.com/@TheAugustHail/videos
>>50241854lmao. why are you like this
>>50241857Reddit was mostly filled with quality discussion when muramasa and white album 2 en translation released , honestly that time was the peak of that placeTwitter on the other hand thinks that all vn are diddy media and post ragebaits that makes you angry
>>50241868he asked for Japanese discussions and you listed a bunch of westoid youtubers and spaces and even threw in some EOP shit for whatever reason lol
>>50241800Someone once shared what 2chan or it was 2ch version of this thread looked like and it was pure shitposting and aiposting of porn, so i dont recommend it
>>50241875The japanese discussions are basically filled with Blue archive or some other gacha game right now.I guess 5ch exist but it felt mostly inactivehttps://5ch.net/
>>50237334they moved to 4+4chan dot moe/jp/res/3516.htmlsupports epubs
>>50240321budgetanimation 95%singer 5%sasuga
it's a hard decision, but I think anon is right, she's best girl, at least so far.gonna rewatch milky holmes in her memory tomorrow
Get hyped.https://www.antiq-games.com/kiminozo-eer(Learned about it today by seeing an ad at my local eroge store.)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=y93BVxgcVvw&pp=0gcJCQMKAYcqIYzvSherry will be playing manosaba in about 20 min
>>50242215
>>50242203looks AIish
>>50242203No thanks, I already have the Latest Edition.
>>50242136>supports epubswhat?
>>50242257you can upload epubs
soulfulnono besto girl
>>50242203will get to kiminozo this month. i will probably just do mitsuki route seeing anons calling it the only good route, and in addition to that manami + the if story
Wow. Maybe I am easily impressed. But this was good enough to make me sit back and stare at the ceiling at the end for maybe 5 minutes and think "I'm glad I bothered learning Japanese". I'm definitely going to have to replay this, maybe yearly. I enjoyed it a lot, much more than I expected going into it. Fucking phenomenal. I can't remember the last time I have been so moved by any literature. Must be at least 2-3 years at least and I'd struggle to think of what it was. Thank you to the anon(s) who suggested I pick this for my October read, sincerely.
>>50242306i'm always surprised to see people like it so much, and i'm kind of jealous of the experience. i did the first route and was mostly indifferent, which hurt a lot because i really liked the white hair girl
>>50242292I played WA2 two winters ago and WA1 the last one.Wanted to go for Tennai this year, but maybe Kiminozo is an option, even if its not a winter game.
>>50242317>i'm always surprised to see people like it so much, and i'm kind of jealous of the experiencesame. I did enjoy a lot of it, but not as much as most others seem to.
>>50242317I'm a sucker for a lot of what it does, I was an easy mark. I'd say "without love it can't be seen" but trying to say that seriously makes me retch a bit so I'll have to pass. I think it definitely hits its stride in 二周目 with 一周目 being sort of an extended prologue. If it failed to capture your attention with "so where is all this going?" there then I can easily see someone bouncing off it.
>>50242333teninai or parfait or koinaku works
>>50242333I've put off WA2 for a while but I was thinking of finally giving it a try this winter, maybe
>>50242347It really is good.
machina childress 1.06https://vikingf1le.us.to/f/hrbqCCLMye
>>50242203Everything looks AIshit. If wanted to play this kusoge, I'll read the original where the characters aren't afraid calling each faggots like the good old days when zoomers weren't born yet.
>>50242467Zoomers were born when it was released though
>>50242489Most people use zoomer as a synonym for "annoying young person," like how most people use millennial as a synonym for "whiny faggot who ruined everything"
What do you think about the vndb clone?https://nepchan.org/v?f=&o=d&s=rating
>>50242641Why would I want a clone of a website I don't use?
>>50242489post 2004 zoomers are the crowd people are trying to refer to when they insult zoomers
>>50237259>but Reiko feels more sympathetic to me.i take this back... annoying bitch, you really are entering a world of irritation when you deal with these bitches
So, I've finally attempted to read Sora and damn this is hard. There are just way too many unknown words. I've been fearing that I would suck at grammar, but no, the only problem is my abysmal vocabulary. Once I look up every unknown word, I have no problem understanding the text.>>50241575 #Even reading random screenshots here, I understand most of this without looking up anything.Hell, I even attempted to watch this Senshinkan video https://youtu.be/p8UK5fmro4s?si=pzGvOhXrWaKlg1Fy [Open] that has been following me for quite a while and I've been avoiding because I thought it would be incomprehensible to me, but for ~5 minutes I understood entirety of conversation without looking up words, just knowing a bit of context.It's bizarre to me I can understand this, but moege's description of landscape utterly destroys me
>>50242306>"I'm glad I bothered learning Japanese".LOL
>>50243057upboted kind saar
>>50240321i just kinda assumed this was vaporware so its nice to see it actually happening. hope its good
>>50240477Isn't it Yuria?
>>50242964sora would never say that
>>50242278I love Nono too. 乃々was actually the first custom word I added into my Japanese IME back in the day.
>>50242964Weird, I found it tremendously easy and smooth reading to the point I'd recommend it to someone really new to Japanese. It's mostly just daily life stuff and regular conversations.
I am surprised every JOP actually seems to like Manosaba's ending. That shit was 100% rushed and patch-worked. They even dropped the 4th wall break slop at the last possible moment but didn't actually commit to it.
>>50242641Isn't this just for gameplayshit? Who cares
>>50244280retard
>>50244310Sorry but gameplay is just a waste of time. I like to read.
>>50244345use a walkthrough + ce
>>50242641Simply ebin mate
>>50244394not a doujinge
I'm interested in trying TS's SRPG games. I was thinking about starting with 久遠の彼方 before jumping into the older titles. Is it a good starting point, or does it contain a lot of references to earlier games by him?
>>50244546It does not reference earlier games so you can start with it if you want
>>50244709Thanks!
any games like rance 3
>>50245182rance 4
>>50244546If you are interested by SRPG gameplay, apparently the hard mode is the og difficulty becauseTS lowered it with some update despite the fact that this game was already pretty easy compared to this other games.
>>50245487Thanks for letting me know. I love hard SRPGs so I'll definitely play it on hard.
>>50237334>>50237389>>50242136The real question is why haven't we also moved over honestly.
>>50245765Why would we?
>>50245765Our medium is alive so no need. The gacha general should move as thats another dead entertainment, same as shitubers.
>>50245825Did I slip dimensions?
This general has been mostly fine for a while. What's the issue?
>>50245867Retards don't know how to ignore shitposters
Doom-kun wants to follow the light novel fags to the dead board, kek
Can anyone tell me the appeal of Watanabe’s Kururu series?
>>50245943dick jokes
>>50245952huh, so if I want dick stuff, I have three options, sakuuta re-read, ooe, kururu. I will keep it in mind
>>50245943Dick jokes and pseudoscience
tbf there's no reason for this general to exist if you can discuss jopkino on /vn/
>>50237211>best girl in the OPholy based
>>50246270her afro hair is really seductive
>>50245487>>50245747The game in which TS included an easy mode was Shinsetsu Mahou Shoujo. For Kuon no Kanata, TS added a hard mode after realizing that several streamers thought it was too easy. I haven't played Kuon no Kanata yet, so I don't know if its hard mode is as unbalanced as Shinsetsu's easy mode.
>TS Stop saying that.
>>50246336But if can't say TS, how am I supposed to tell everyone about the best new trading card role playing game to be released this year?
>>50237250>>50246270duality of men
by god that is cute...
>>50246791I only started going through the Mika-chan chats in the third arc and immediately got a limited topic linked to a scene I just read. Would feel silly if I missed any limited ones from earlier, not sure if there were though
Haven't read VNs for a while, but decided to read Sakura no Toki.It wasn't bad or anything, but kinda disappointed.Way too little focus on Rina and Rin. I don't even understand their thought process in trying to be a rival/obstacle to overcome for Naoya while also leaving him alone. Kei was Naoya's rival because he actually interacted with him and told him that straight to his face. Also that whole ending sequence starting from the weird paint battles felt rushed and a lot of characters felt underused. The whole art club had 0 presence other than Nei.Also a lot of the art philosophy felt heavy handed because they keep repeating the same thing, like I get it. Housai only ever references that bald mountain story with every character he talks to.Misuzu was cute though.
>>50246967Oh yeah, the Kei wank was unreal.I wanted a story that continues off from when Naoya gets over his death, but it ends with that.
>>50246955>I only started going through the Mika-chan chats in the third arc inconceivable to me because i find her the most intriguing character thus far besides the green eye girl. I'm still only on the second arc, though. I thought I'd be binging this more but I'm taking my merry time in the reference menu just going over the material>Would feel silly if I missed any limited ones from earlieri didn't even realise there were "limited" topics. i've been checking in with her after every scenario but this game is pretty well thought out and organised. i doubt you missed anything, and even if so, anything important
>>50246791Just you wait. Mika-chan gets way more moe in the second half of the game. >>50246955The game warns you about limited topics so it's hard to miss them if you are proactively checking which ones are available.
>>50246328I played kuokana on release so there was no hardmode, and I also thought it was extremely easy compared to mahosho, but I also thought hard mode would not fix the issue, because what made mahosho interesting was the fact that there was limited EXP to gain, so you could not become too OP and you'd always have just enough MP to kill elite units(even if you purposefully waited for nests to pop to kill extra colored units inside it, normal objectives would become ez but repeatedly waiting for each nest to pop and see what comes out of it still required thought and strategy).However in kuokana there's a feature that if you die and get game over, you repeat but get to keep all your exp, 敗北しても経験値そのまま資金増加状態でやり直せます which is also part of the story so I don't think he's remove it for hardmode, or I can't see it in the patchnotes I'm reading right now, so it's impossible for it to be challenging in the same way mahosho was, unless you self-impose some rules for yourself. I'm still curious how hardmode feels, so I'm gonna download and play when I have time, I was a bit dissapointed in kuokana gameplay after mahosho because I just facerolled every mission, but I liked it's characters and story more...
>>50246967Now that I think about it more, Sakura no Uta was much better constructed as a whole too.The available route order slowly reveals layers of info and gradually gets more fantastic.Rin - why Naoya can't use armMakoto - IIRC a bunch of background info on the Nakamura and Toritani family.Rina - background info on Hakui and the power of the thousand year old sakura treeShizuku - truth of Rin's accident and Sui's identity.True - compete with the physical manifestation of Rin's godly talent. Rin also achieves God form through fusion with Sui offscreen. (what the fuck man Sui was my favorite character)Sakura no Toki on the other hand had that weird first chapter with Shizuru that only exists to show that a special pottery glaze exists and to set up for Makoto route, that second chapter where they make fliers, that Misuzu route where I honestly don't remember anything other than freaky sex and the dad lending big bucks on counterfeit collateral, and that Makoto route where Shizuru makes up with Reika. They just don't really build up for the true route where Naoya uses magical paint and magical dream water.
>>50247314>Now that I think about it more, Sakura no Uta was much better constructed as a whole too.remember, scaji never sweats the small details, he always focuses on the big picture
Any chikanfags left?What's a good title to start the genre with?
>>50247846Saishuu chikan densha
Geez I didn't realize it was that kind of gamehttps://hanoura-maze.com/#concept
>>50248161I wonder if they will announce more games for 2027 to keep the momentum
>>50247314When you think about it, Naoya was preparing to face Rin for all these 10 years, like how he was researching hekihi, training his arms. Maybe the light art he made in VI was one of his ideas. But was not sure any of them would work at all, like in the Mizusu and Makoto routes. Housai only spilled the beans of the Roku Souzu on the true route because he felt Naoya would finally deliver. And at literal gunpoint, Naoya didn't have a choice but to try the stuff he was researching. He even asked the Nakamura guy to kill him when everyone was disappointed he was only filling a big ass canvas in black.I too wanted more focus on Rin and Rina (I honestly thought Rina and Yuumi would never appear again before reading sakutoki) but it would indeed take the Kei's spotlight. They have too much presence. Especially Rin, she would take sakutoki for herself.
New Karin Project after 6 yearshttps://nexton-net.jp/KarinProject/bocchi/
>>50248174The Kei shit should've been gotten over with in like the third chapter, and then have more build up on Rin. She just got ultra cucked because Naoya was STILL dedicating his art in the final showdown with Rin to Kei.
>>50248484It's kinda difficult to admit but, Rin could only dream of having that much of a impact in Naoya like Kei did. Kei dedicated practically his whole life to Naoya, and never tried to hide it.Kei's way of life is the life Rin dreamed of when she was a child. Maybe if she didn't hide her talent, things would be different.That said, let's see what the extras in sakuuta 10th anniversary and sakuoto will bring to the table.
>>50248666>That said, let's see what the extras in sakuuta 10th anniversary and sakuoto will bring to the table.Didn't even know that was coming out.What the hell is sakuoto, a sequel?
>>50248748All we know officially is that it will include the students' routes that were to be included in sakutoki. But seeing the teasing sca ji is doing on twitter and the description of sakuuta remake, the extras in it seem to be a prelude of something more. Or it's just a cope of mine, I don't know.
>>50246595I don't get TS stuff. If I want cute girls I go for cute girls. If I want cute shotas I go for cute shotas. Turning cute boys into girls seems pointless, a weird fetish like those gays who go into extreme BDSM and literally castrate their sub. Shrimply not for me, which means people who like it are wrong and stupid and maybe evil.
>>50248666Naoya using his right hand in a showoff against Rin instead of Kana would've been great. I can't believe even Thomas got more of a spotlight than her.
>>50248967That only shows to me that his right hand was not enough for Rin. And he could simulate it with the springs anyways. Even Kana with the exoskeleton could do the same. But yeah, Rin needs her time to shine.
>>50249038I was thinking of a live painting showdown. It would be an easy 感動 moment where Naoya shows to Rin that he can still use the arm she broke to draw.
>>50249062I just wanted a two-hour conversation between the two without any bullshit bothering them. Nothing fancy, really.
>>50248958You can write a story about anything, and I don't think there's anything wrong with stories about cute girls and boys just being cute.But I've found that really compelling stories are often about a great rise or a great fall, and TS as a concept works really well for both.The brave knight who rescued so many maidens is turned into a beautiful, vulnerable elf maiden himself. Does he overcome his predicament and rise back up to being a knight again, perhaps even a greater one for the experience? Or does he fall helplessly further and further into weakness and womanhood, until there's nothing left to do except accept his (her) fate?I find it all very dramatic and ironic. And you can write it 100% seriously, or have lots of fun with it and turn it into a comedy, or anything in between, and all of them work equally well. Every story ends up being a little different, so I never get bored of it.It isn't for everyone, and there's definitely a lot of garbage you have to sift through to find the good stuff (that goes for anything though, I guess), but the good stuff can be very good.
good ever17 walkthrough that covers ALL endings?
>>50249280https://adusa-ciel.my.coocan.jp/ever17/ever17.htm
>>50249299ok thanks, tho the recommended route order is different here than in other guides
>>50249309I reccomend going Tsugumi - Sora - Sara - (You)
>>50249822the jp one say tsugumi > sara > you > sorayou say tsugumi > sora > sara > yougamefaqs says tsugumi > sora > you >sara
>>50249922don't listen to the jp one, tsugumi -> sora is the ideal first two. either the anon's recommendation or gamefag's is fine
Has anyone played this on Windows 10? Not VM cancer, regular install.
>>50250366whats the problem?
