>>50400137
>how you all feel about this franchise now compared to when you first met it years ago.
well i have only been into touhou since 18's release so uhhh it didn't change much anyways personally i skip all the game dialogue and don't read the mangas because i get bored and stop paying attention and i like the characters and music and all that i don't think that's gonna change
idk about the booru stuff sorry but maybe someone else can help with that

I've been into Touhou since the noughts and still very much am, but between the excessive range bans, the flagrant spam (which neither the range bans nor the mods seem to do anything about) and the /v/ermin migration, I'm not inclined to put time and effort into discussing it here. Which exacerbates the problem in a small way, I realize, but it is what it is.

>>50400230
Can you tell me, where do you talk or used to talk about Touhou when you want to discuss seriously with someone? Or you simply don't?

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i thought that its really cool 8 years ago and i think its really cool now
if you let anything outside of the primary media change your view of touhou you're a dummy

>>50400270
>if you let anything outside of the primary media change your view of touhou you're a dummy

Primary media is unironically what cooked it the most for me. Xd

>>50400287
Yeah, for about a decade ZUN has been turning Touhou into something less than it used to be.

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>>50400287
how so
do you mean the newer works ruined the older stuff for you, or just that you realized you don't like most of it in the first place after engaging further?
the "story" and the "plot" in touhou has never been anything more than flavor text so honestly you shouldn't even care for that shit in the first place

I love Touhou. Knew of the series since forever from osmosis of being on this site but I never actually looked into it until around LoLK. The music drew me in but I stay for the fan works. It is a bottomless well of content and I can't stop drinking it up. There is always something new someone has put out using these characters I've come to love! I play the games to experience them and keep up with the canon but I'm not particularly big on the genre. So long as the fan scene continues to thrive, I won't be bothered by the increasing amount of ZUNisms or corporate involvement. Canon exists as a base guideline for fanon.

>>50400137
>I want to download all of Danbooru's content, fan music, and all that because it is such a goldmine for my art (If someone can help me around this it would be very appreciated)
Check out Hydrus if you're not already aware. It's software that stores your images as a local booru. It supports downloading from the popular boorus and automatic importing of tags. I love it because storing images through tags is easier than trying to figure out which folder should I put an image into.
https://hydrusnetwork.github.io/hydrus/

>>50400402
>hydrus
Thank you a lot anon! I am very glad. But I also want to say that I have the problem that I don't have much storage in my PC. I need an external SSD a lot.

>>50400379
The problem with this statement is that /jp/ has such a weird stance on it. One moment they say "canon doesn't matter" and the other they are berating people for not knowing everything that happened in WaHH and saying all the time that the other anon's interpretation or headcanon is bad, to put an example.

The problem is that is not just "plot" or "story". Since Touhou doesn't have it. It is that when you see characters in official works doing stupid crap (or evil crap, by the way) you know its canon and everyone is going to be talking about it.

If you don't believe me, it has happened more than once that I say "I like this [insert morally bad character that is seen as cute]" and people start talking about how in canon she bragged about hating humans. You get the idea.

>>50400254
>Can you tell me
Nope. Not going to risk inviting shitposters. Sorry, but you gotta gatekeep these things.

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>>50400424
>they are berating people for not knowing everything that happened in WaHH
secondaries compensate for not actually liking touhou by overindulging in muh canon and pushing it in your face
the whole spirit of touhou is that its supposed to be cute & fun, the second you start taking it too seriously things go to shit
posers will pose, just disregard it

>>50400463
I don't know if I should feel bad that people think I am a shitposter or feel good that someone is doing the job of gatekeeping the good stuff.

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It's been a good 15 years or so, i've sort of been through most phases with Touhou, from secondary, to barely above one, to leaving the franchise altogether (Nothing prompted this other than my lack of commitment to the franchise at the time), to coming back and being more involved with the franchise, although obviously as a foreigner i'll never really get the full experience, even if a lot of it seems deceptively social and outgoing which i'm not so into, every now & then I see neat small events like Geidontei Memories (an event about a year ago where a bunch of people had set up this replica of Geidontei where you'd drink with Miyoi, gamble with Sannyo, or go info searching with Aya, a real neat find I had stumbled across) does sound really cool.
Ultimately, i'm very casual about Touhou and pick my points of interest. Doesn't mean I don't have my own grievances with Touhou both in how ZUN and fans alike treat it, but even as someone with the luxury of a fairly easygoing life, I'm still all too overwhelming to want to come home & get angry at things I can't influence, unless prompted and with nothing else to counterbalance it.

At its core, Touhou remains a view into an author's psyche throughout the decades. It's quite a luxury and can tell almost more than a biography, which may omit details. I have a lot of appreciation for the seamless blend Touhou finds itself in, of an arcade shmup rewarding commitment, all about the moment to moment action, something that really makes your heartbeat go haywire at its peak, and the downtime giving you plenty of material to dissect or interpret as you wish.

I had a lot of fun with FW. Some of the best stage design in a long while and the rush of bullet cancels from Wonder Stones was exhilirating. A few ideas didn't land, namely the gem system providing little incentive to go outside of your comfort zone, since clears are tied to the gem thatg changes your hyper. The atmosphere of the game is very interesting as well, with an overarching message of, from my PoV, the challenges societal change bring to the table, how it looms above us all, with actors far beyond our grasps, with some coming out as victims, others managing to break from it, bringing about an almost sorrowful sense of serenity. This is how i've come to interpret FW's story and music. Of course, in a less interpretive sense, it was also the continuation of ZUN's experimentation with music, with themes such as Chimi being one of the more obvious examples.
I've talked about FW above, but I have some form of appreciation for all of ZUN's eras. As a sort of counterpart to the above, I have a lot of nostalgic fondness for PC-98 to early windows. I can easily see myself in ZUN's shoes, just throwing in more or less loose references to media I enjoyed in an endearing melting pot, rule of cool and all.

So yeah, i'm pretty content overall.

>>50400507
I don't think anon is accusing you of shitposting. This thread is visible to everybody and shitposters can lurk too.

>>50400528
Sex with this gremlin

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>>50400254
>Can you tell me, where do you talk or used to talk about Touhou when you want to discuss seriously with someone?
I just engage sincerely and seriously in discussion here and ignore shitposters and people I don't believe are arguing in good faith.

>>50400528
>drink with Miyoi, gamble with Sannyo, or go info searching with Aya
this actually sounds really fun, are there any pictures of the event?

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>>50400576
https://immersivegeidontei.wixsite.com/my-site
Found their website, I had remembered the name wrong. They're also on X as ImmersiveGeidon to advertise upcoming events and you might find pics there. I haven't digged in too deep, I just thought it was neat.

>>50400137
>I want to discuss how you all feel about this franchise now compared to when you first met it years ago.
Depends on how you mean the question.
As for the games. I stopped enjoying them after DDC, I have 1cc'd the newer ones, but I didn't enjoy them all that much. though the side games are quite fun.
I personally don't like the direction Zun is taking the franchise, but a lot of anons don't seem to mind, so each to their own I guess.

One thing that I don't like about the current state of Touhou fandom is how some people seem to not get that not everything has to be according to canon, this mostly applies to the younger fans but is still annoying. Back in the Touhou's hayday artists often just made shit up and went completely against the canon, nowadays I feel like they are a more careful about being accurate(or at least not completely off) and I feel that's not necessarily a good thing. It was fun seeing people doing whatever they wanted with the characters.

>>50400616
that is seriously cool. seems like there's a story/mystery tied to the event too?
there don't seem to be that many images available of it, though.
i'd love to go as one of the village ojisans.

>>50400137
>I want to discuss how you all feel about this franchise now compared to when you first met it years ago.
The same really, I was lucky that when I discovered touhou I already understood what it was supposed to be about instead of wanting it to be something else, unlike other people who seem to hold into their image for years. maybe it's autism or they are being stubborn.
Granted I still feel like a newfag about the franchise so I don't contribute a lot in serious discussions about lore (Touhou's lore it's not a straight line and it's all over the place) and gameplay (I'm mostly a normalshitter but I have fun playing the games and clearing them), so I mostly just listen to others so I can keep learning, and instead I try to bring fun topics or make art about the characters, because touhou in a nutshell is about having fun and sharing fun.
I never felt like a true /jp/ user because of my newfaggism and the way some people are so one note about what they like and what they hate is one of the things I never learned to fully replicate myself, maybe because I tend to live and let others live, I discovered touhou in other boards instead of /jp/, but I still respected the board and it's users because of their commitment to protect their turf, so I used /jp/ for serious touhou discussion and the other boards for more relaxed topics but after hack it seemed like most of these people were gone which made me sad a bit.

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I know this will sound retarded as hell. But how do you guys would react if Gensokyo was revealed to be real and this universe was unironically the Touhou Project universe. Ever since I got into all this egregore stuff and got to meet some guys from the Esoteric threads (Which Ironically I was the one making and putting the first theory in but had no idea what people talked in them because I was more of a "I think Gensokyo is real" guy and everyone else in the esoteric threads was like "I meet Yatagarasu in a dream" because I saw a random thread here that got into super-esoteric stuff because of a random canon question that later delved into me getting into /x/ and discovering that people can talk to 2hus and now realizing that I am laying all the esoteric stuff into a random schizopost on /jp/ and that I should shut up before they lay a curse on me through the egregore of Yukari Yakumo and I have to become Christian or some shit to get another God to lift the curse off me. Please send help I don't want to live in the Touhou Project universe. I thought this universe was just called real life but now they are adding all sorts of stupid shit) this question has been ringing on my head. But is so utterly deranged that at this point I don't believe it out of sheer will and because even if its true I don't give a fuck because I already fell for another character of another franchise, I think it was the blonde guy from Resident Evil.

>>50401042
>But how do you guys would react if Gensokyo was revealed to be real
Technically speaking, that can't occur. For Gensokyo to exist and function, the Outside World must disbelieve its existence. Otherwise the property of "drawing in that which has passed into fantasy," a foundational one for Gensokyo, would no longer work. In a way, Gensokyo is "real" because we know it's obviously not real, just like the kami, youkai and redheads that inhabit it.

>>50401071
Okay, man. I agree with you in that point. But then where do these egregores come from? They feel different from, normal egregores because there is always something a bit heavy about their presence than just with random thoughtforms.

>>50400137
You can still find meaningful discussion here. The low-effort shitposting isn't necessarily taking away from it, since posting here isn't a zero-sum-game. I think the ideal thread has a combination of the two, actually.
For me, over time, the series had a strange trajectory. I never interactled much with the fandom outside this board. I started playing Touohu because all my online "friends" were fans of it and I thought I was missing out. The earliest windoms games do have a unique feel, which I think was slightly undermined by the introduction of the "passing into fantasy" concept; before, every myth presented felt coincidentally tied to the region that became Gensokyo, it had a special relation with the land of Gensokyo, after, all the myths felt determined to end up there, so at least a little of the mystique was gone, but not all. Sure, early Touhou had that feeling of potentiality which I don't feel that strongly now, but that could also have to do with the process of learning more about the series; when I know every character, every work, every location within the series, my attitude towards it changes. Sure, my attitude towards the later parts of the series is different, but I'm no longer the same person I was before I knew about Touhou.
I've enjoyed(the native, Touhou-oriented side of) /jp/ a lot, before and after the hack, to the point that it's the only imageboard I use. I still think the average native 2hufag /jp/sie has in him a certain something I didn't find in the anons of the other boards.
>>50401042
Usami Sumireko, the present Outside World's sole anchor into the series, is not a real person.
Also consider that the series' timeline diverges and converges at various moments, specifically in such a way that every game played can be considered canon, so any potentially real Gensokyo would already break our laws of noncontradiction. Thus, either Gensokyo's reality is not immanently manifestable in any meaningful way, of it exists purely as an object of thought(that is, metaphysically beneath both immanent and transcendent reality), or the "Gensokyo" you claim to have access to is not the "Gensokyo" of Touhou in any meaningful way.

>>50401189
>Usami Sumireko, the present Outside World's sole anchor into the series, is not a real person.
>Also consider that the series' timeline diverges and converges at various moments, specifically in such a way that every game played can be considered canon, so any potentially real Gensokyo would already break our laws of noncontradiction. Thus, either Gensokyo's reality is not immanently manifestable in any meaningful way, of it exists purely as an object of thought(that is, metaphysically beneath both immanent and transcendent reality), or the "Gensokyo" you claim to have access to is not the "Gensokyo" of Touhou in any meaningful way.

Thank you a lot anon luv u

I really want to talk more about this. Now I feel safer knowing that I don't live in the Touhou Project universe. But in the Real life universe. Man I love real life so much, where the villains are Deep State groups instead of anime girls! Heheheh

>>50401205
I'm not sure what you're talking about. The world is a single thing and its history is the history of its unfolding thru time. There are no villains. Evil does not exist.

>>50401347
The unique argument that I accept for the "evil does not exist" opinion is that evil is inherently a part of a narrative and that this world by not being a story or anything technically has no alienation.

>>50400137
Ironically this place seems more lively to talk about touhou than touhoutwt
Yes they DO talk there but here it always feel like the conversation is always there instead of a one and done thing that happens in twitter

>>50401799
I do wish some people would ease up when discussing things, people are so defensive nowadays about everything.

Any educated guesses for Touhou 21?

>>50401943
Depends of what will happen next year.

>>50401904
What happens is that people today don't have the mentality of wanting to learn something new through discussing it, what they want is reinforcing their beliefs and see how they can defend them.

>>50403230
I agree

>>50401799
i only use xitter for following artists and shilling artists, but touhoutwt (at least from what I gleamed from it) is just 99% literalwho fags commenting about their retardation of the week, puriteens arguing about 2hu's ages (which are canonically all above the age of drinking, yes even cirno), and trannies parroting secondary shit. I can appreciate some discussion but I always see the same literalwhos everytime and it's very tiresome.
Anonymous discussion is always 100x better for me, though even attentionwhores exist on both platforms.

>>50404231
Right now what's your biggest gripe with jp/4chan?

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>>50404320
well mods don't care, its rotting from top to bottom. tons of redditors and tourists.
I don't usually gripe too much since it's a userbase problem, I just make do with what I have now. I occasionally shill interesting 2hu announcements in threads or interesting fangames. I do my part to make discussion lively.

>>50404320
NTA but just the mods for now.

>>50404382
Don't forget about the /v/ fags

>>50404563
Wdym?

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>>50404320
On a surface level? The mods and the /v/ermin invaders
On a much more deeper and core level? I hate the fact that /jp/ feels more "hostile" now a days, schizos will shit on threads they don't like and there isn't much too really you can do about that. Maybe it's more of a meta 4chan thing than a /jp/ thing

>>50405334
>Maybe it's more of a meta 4chan thing than a /jp/ thing

Some months ago I was in /lit/ and there were three threads talking about how the board was going to shit. I even asked what was happening and people told me that it feels like people don't talk about books anymore or something like that.

In my personal view, just by looking at the catalog I was cringing. I think 4chan got very bad after the hack. Even in 2025 I made a good thread here in /jp/ about a very personal inquiry and got pretty good answers even if a bit derailed. Nowadays I can't make a thread last even if the question is interesting.

>>50401042
>>50401298

>>50400137
Kokoro is my #2 best 2hu.

>>50404689
I think he reefers to /jp/hu

>>50407745
>>50404563
Isn't that just another /2hug/ diaspora?

>>50408398
What exactly is /2hug/ diaspora? I don't visit other boards apart from /jp/ and some others and sometimes I am confused as to what they mean by 2hug

>>50408405
Mostly just general circlerjerk, they invaded the /v/ touhou threads a while ago, I'm just assuming that thread in this board is the same thing due to the name scheme.

>>50408398
>>50408425
nta but I'm aware that >>>/vg/ has a Touhou general (there's one up right now, >>>/vg/547027290, I thought they're extinct), but they just seem like /jp/-lite.
Back when I used to visit /v/hu threads during the early 2020s somebody explained that they're originally from >>>/bant/ or something. Looking at that board's catalog, this seems to be correct.
Now /jp/hu are just refugees from /v/hu because the mods there started cracking down on their understandably off-topic threads, though some genuinely on-topic Touhou threads did get purged which is tragic when it happens. Recently mods on /v/ delete threads because there's a dedicated schizo or sharty raider who spams СР in any Touhou thread, or anything that has Touhou characters in the OP image even if it isn't a Touhou thread at all.

>>50409825
Back when I was a newfag at touhou (I discovered the franchise around WBaWC's pre-release on /v/ touhou threads) I went to the 2hu general on /vg/ out of curiosity and found it utterly disgusting that I never went back and kept on using /v/ threads for funny images, laid back discussion, game hosting, OC and other things, and /jp/ for more serious/niche topics, then after some years those threads started to turn like /2hug/ which made me stop using them.

When someone asks me what went wrong with those threads I always say "A /vg/ general came and turned things bad" because it's easier to explain as it's very relatable for other users because it happens very often on other boards and topics.
>Recently mods on /v/ delete threads because there's a dedicated schizo or sharty raider who spams СР in any Touhou thread
This is news to me, wow.

>>50410018
>"A /vg/ general came and turned things bad"
Yeah this is pretty much how it used to be even before /bant/ was made in 2017.
Actually, looking back, /qa/ is even older (2015) and iirc there were Touhou threads there as well, but this was long before soijaks were spammed and such.

>>50410053
I've never heard of anything /bant/ related from those threads really, I mostly made my comparison to /vg/ because the "vibes" were different, people started acting different, like everyone knew each other and you were an outsider, it's hard to explain.

>>50410080
>like everyone knew each other and you were an outsider, it's hard to explain.
One of the things I noticed most about /v/hu is that they have names for each other. Like the "Yukari cosplayer" or something like that.

>>50410206
Yes, exactly.
Most generals in /vg/ (and arguably on the entire site) are made not for the discussion of a topic but to keep a hub of virtual "friends" always running, that's the vibe I'm referring to.

>>50410250
I said this in the past and will say it again: "4chan should be anonymous"

>>50410259
Preach

>>50410275
Forgive me this one but what does "preach" mean in this case

>>50410296
That you delivered a message that should be said more often.

I need to ask this here because the Yuri thread is going to be archived soon. (I made this thread to ask things like this as well)

Is yuri/yaoi cuckholding? Like I said before wanting to see two people together is not inherently bad because not everyone is with the mentality "this woman should be with me and only me" because maybe that girl just doesn't interest them.. But I do feel that people in the yuri threads legit are leaning more into self-humiliation or something weird I can't quite name.

When I see a picture of my (ex)favorite girl (the mf has me traumatized) with another girl, I feel weird. Don't even let me talk about when is Rinnosuke. It feels like betrayal. So, please, enlighten me. I want a full blown academic and autistic text on this phenomenon.

>>50410664
I don't care about yuri/yaoi, I see it in the same realm as shipping in general, it's very infantile and turns people into obnoxious loud fiends screaming "Kyaaaaa he/she touched her/his hand !!!!!" and turning dragging discussion down, especially when its not part of the plot nor it's canon at all and it's mostly delusions.
Lesbian porn is hot however, it's just porn, no need to think about it.

>>50410710
>and turning dragging discussion down,
and dragging discussion down"

>>50410664
I guess it depends ? About romance (straight, yuri, faggots, sexual, whatever) in general i think there are three main cases about how one enjoys it. First Is self insert, I don't think I need to explain this one, second is enjoying the wholesomenes of it, and most likely hoping to experience such romance yourself, which seems to be the main reason why some enjoy yuri : it's not really about sex but more friendship, third is straight up cuckoldry, only seeing yourself as en external factor witnessing wasted potential for romance to you. There is also some that enjoys romance in multiple of these ways , for example two girls having sex between each other's AND (you) which to some is very hot ( and I get them).

>>50410664
I think it's more about how you treat it.
Yurifags generally fall into two groups, people who just like that kind of stuff and people who insist it's canon.
The first group is made up almost entirely of straight men who just want something to jack off to. There are legitimate cuckolds in this category, for example, there was a guy on xitter who was obsessed with(I think) Sakuya, but would also insisted on shipping her with(I think) Meiling, that person is nothing if not a cuck.
The second group gets more attention because they are most insistent, and a considerable amount of them are transbians who self-insert.
So, of the people who like yuri, less than half are cuckolds. But of the people calling themselves yurifags, probably more than half, with the rest being the self-insert trannies, because to be excited enough by yuri to make it part of your identity means you really like to watch or self-insert.

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>>50410710
>especially when its not part of the plot nor it's canon at all and it's mostly delusions.
I remember that back when I was watching anime's like Hellsing or Naruto I had the strange feeling to want to see Naruto and Sasuke together or Alexander and Alucard. I never turned it into something serious but I wonder what makes people go like that.

In the naruto one I think is mostly because sometimes is funny. I mean, in the canon (and fillers) their relationship was legit weird. I 100% know its not canon but seeing other aspects in that anime I wouldn't be surprised if Kishimoto came out of the closet.

But something I want to say is that I don't see good shipping dynamics here in Touhou (Apart from Marisa x Alice or the protagonists in general). I don't hate them but what I am getting at is that Touhou is so asexual and aromantic that I find utterly unique how some people make mental gymnastics to justify a ship in Touhou. My favorite ships of this franchise and others are the ones that are so cracked that my mind starts thinking what would it be like out of curiosity. But no I am not into shipping.

But anon thanks for your answer. Now, tell me. Do you agree that lesbian porn is 200% straight? I saw a video where they used "math" to prove it.

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>>50410749
Okay, do you want to talk about /jp/ in general? Its okay. But I just needed to rant a bit.

I have a question then: What do you guys think of the esoteric threads and the archive of the sealed gods?

>>50410664
Originally there was nothing wrong with yuri or yaoi. People simply consumed whatever material with whatever pairing they wanted and nobody cared except those embroiled in shipping wars especially with characters like Marisa and her many friends.
Only in recent years with the shift in the internet culture both pairings getting "politicized", as with everything else:

Yuri is gay as well, but as a male viewer this leads to two possible trains of thought, both could be true:
#1: "You like one of the girls, and you're viewing material where the girl is being taken from you by... another girl? What kind of a cuck are you to have a GIRL* steal your girl?"
#2: There is a lot of suspicion that the majority of yuri fans are not "regular males" (ie straight) or "irregular females" (ie gay), but instead "mentally ill males" (ie trannies). They would self-insert as one of the girls in a yuri shipping.
As for straight shipping, it's just a variation of point #1 as listed above, but replace GIRL* with ANOTHER MAN WHO ISN'T YOU*. Basically it's this point that you already described
>not everyone is with the mentality "this woman should be with me and only me"
Yaoi is straight-up gay, and has point #1 as listed above.
As for the self-humiliation bit in all the above, that's point #1 but perceived in a fucked up perspective. This is due to severe self-esteem issues or other mental deficiencies:
"Nnnnghh! I like that girl/boy and she/he should be mine... but she/he is being stolen from me by (somebody else)! It's not fair! Nnnghhhooohhh... I'll imagine my partner getting fucked by the other person and they love it more than it would be with me...! *jerks off*"

On a related note, your question style is very autistic and sounds awfully familiar. Are you that that Eirinfag making threads with similarly inane questions?

>>50410843
I don't know what that is but feel free to explain it.

>>50410825
I've seen yuri porn of my favorite 2hus, but my mind doesn't really acknowledge the fact that two girls are making out due to love or whatever context it might carry behind, I see two hot women making out and that is arousing, it's really all there it's to it.
Kinda like in 3DPD lesbian porn, most of the time the actresses are not really lesbians at all, they are just ok with being paid to make out with other girls in front of cameras.

>>50410913
>I see two hot women making out and that is arousing, it's really all there it's to it.
It's as simple as that, but sadly there are a lot of imbeciles in this modern internet that if the shipping or porn isn't done with (You), then you are a cuckold.

>>50410940
Exactly, applies to porn in general.

But the "lovey-dovey" melodrama part of yuri might be a bit too intoxicating for me though so I don't consume it, it does makes me roll my eyes a bit seeing grown men get emotionally worked up for pretty much woman drama.

>>50410849
>Are you that that Eirinfag making threads with similarly inane questions?
What? No. In fact I have not made threads asking questions apart from this one where I just asked to talk about Touhou in general.

>>50411590
apologies then

>>50411620
NTA but you should listen to >>50410259

>>50411636
I'm already abiding by that rule, it's the schizos that make their presence known who don't.

>>50411689
This is some advice anon but you shouldn't really do that, it never brings anything good and usually just makes bad actors act worse, I'm speaking from experience.
I never remember nor acknowledge anyone individually regardless if they post good things or bad things, everyone is anonymous just like me, if you want a bad person to go away make them feel like they don't exist.

thcrap finally updated Fossilized Wonders with an English translation.

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>>50410874
The esoteric threads here in /jp/ started because back in 2024 someone made a thread asking "where do outsiders come from?" and the post that appeared right below started all sorts of esoteric discussions, later I made the thread in second pict and started making threads from that. Then other people that I have no fucking idea where they came from (not angry just confused) started making their own threads and using some I created for their stuff. Generally they talk about the esotericism in Touhou, the history of the Gods, their dreams, meditations, practices. And apparently (well, I was there) there is a website called the "Channel of the sealed Gods." Alongside some people I know who are into that stuff.

>>50411709
>if you want a bad person to go away make them feel like they don't exist.
I wish this was happens more often than it doesn't

>>50411770
Trust me, it's better, it filters the low level loonis, now for the actual mentally insane ones you can just pray that they never find your fun threads so it's best to enjoy them while you can.
It's kinda like cancer, it can happen to anyone even if they live healthy lives or not, but despite that you should strive to live a healthy life anyway because it does lower the chances of that appearing (and other bad stuff)

>>50411759
Interesting, does this counts as fanfiction?

>>50400137
>I feel like most users of /jp/ that could have a civilized conversation left after the hack incident
As far as I go I visit about once a month and rarely post as opposed to spending several hours a day and dozens of posts here like I used to.
>>50411860
Maybe, but there's a lot of good information there about the origins of things and the spiritualism associated with it. The Archive site is very informative. And even if it's all a sham there's some benefit to spirituality and binding that to something you love makes it more enjoyable.

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>>50412448
>As far as I go I visit about once a month and rarely post as opposed to spending several hours a day and dozens of posts here like I used to.
You sound like this guy from x

>>50411860
I think it counts more like fan theory than fanfiction since I think you are kind of stretching the meaning of that term. There are people who consider it a pseudo-conspiracy theory even.

>>50411742
Is the dialogue worth checking?

>>50410849
>As for straight shipping, it's just a variation of point #1 as listed above, but replace GIRL* with ANOTHER MAN WHO ISN'T YOU*. Basically it's this point that you already described
I have never noticed that it has been a long time I don't see a mainstream straight ship

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>>50401943
The tengu are militarizing and stand poised to take over Genbu Ravine, which they consider to be an integral part of the tengu nation, while accusing the oni of wanting to return to Youkai Mountain and re-establish their rule after Yuugi makes a comment on how she would come to the defense of the kappa if the tengu were to invade them.

>>50414383
It's been depreciated. The mainstream straight shipping is always the character with (You) the viewer, or a faceless male (ie you). Otherwise the faceless male could be not!(You) and is set up as a NTR/cuck scenario.

>>50414618
>Otherwise the faceless male could be not!(You) and is set up as a NTR/cuck scenario.
A lot of people have this mentality everywhere. My mother is a fan of JK (the Korean guy) and she always tells me that the fandom ships him with other members of the band but that they get rabiotic when there are rumors of him with a girl.

>>50415170
3D shipping is infinitely more insane than 2D

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>>50416030
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>>50416049
My fucking eyes spoiler this shit

>>50416103
N E I N

>>50416115
Die, perish even

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>>50416394
Her bomb is shit in that game so it's not going to do anything

>>50414435
>The tengu are militarizing and stand poised to take over Genbu Ravine, which they consider to be an integral part of the tengu nation
tengu and kappa are basically in the same faction
>after Yuugi makes a comment on how she would come to the defense of the kappa if the tengu were to invade them.
they also despise onis a lot

>>50416827
Touhou lore is all over the place

I want to be Seiga :(

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>>50416827
>tengu and kappa are basically in the same faction
No, they're not. The tengu may like to pretend they're in command of the mountain and the other groups exist as just their vassals, but it's pretty obvious that the kappa greatly value their independence and care only about furthering their own interests.
From Nitori's dialogue in Subterranean Animism, she evidently considers the kappa and the tengu to be co-controllers of the mountain after the oni disappeared, but to the kappa, the tengu are just a market to sell technology to.
>they also despise onis a lot
No, they're *afraid* of oni and don't want them to take charge again. Again from SA, when it becomes obvious that the oni aren't interested in the mountain any more, Nitori instead invites Yuugi over for a drink sometime, which she wouldn't do if she truly hated the oni.

>>50418296
Fag

>>50418296
Stay to your containement room fagget.

>>50418943
>>50418910
Where does wanting to be a 2hu come from? Is it from a general transgender view or is an even weirder fantasy?

>>50418970
I don't care

>>50418985
Are you both anons?

>>50419007
?
I just said I don't really care about that topic

>>50418970
Depends. Some just like to think of it as a better existence, weird fetish for some.

>>50419022
>Depends. Some just like to think of it as a better existence, weird fetish for some.
When I was a teenager, the times I imagined myself as female were often because of the change in panorama. I mean, I would get more attention and feel more valuable. Even thought I don't have those thoughts anymore, I think that explains a lot autogynephilia. And in the case of people wanting to be 2hus, maybe is that they want both the attention they get at Gensokyo and by the fandom.

>>50419034
Personally, I find my body to be revolting and the thought of just being someone not disgusting is nice.

>>50419034
>>50419041
That's called lacking self confidence, instead of worsening the problem even further you can still fix yourself, otherwise you will never be happy with yourself.

>>50419054
Your normalfag advice really isn't necessary.

>>50419065
Your welcome, faggot.

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>>50419090
>here's my unapplicable, generic ass advice
>i don't need or want it
>WELL FUCK YOU FAGGOT

>>50419100
Too green

>>50419129
>i said the thing do i fit in yet

>>50419090
>>50419065
>>50419054
What happened here is that the word "confidence" now has a bad connotation due to insufferable gurus that promote it. The truth is that it takes a lot of strength to value yourself if there is no anchor for it. The most common self-worth problem origin is appearance, sometimes personality, and on a second place is financial stability or societal acceptance (which is tied to financial stability and appearance). I am not into lookmaxxing but it is 100% true that is way harder having low self esteem or "confidence" issues is you look like prime Brad Pitt.

>>50419022
Yeah the logic for most people is just:
-2hus are cute and hot
-I want to be cute and hot
-I want to be a 2hu
That or they just want to get railed (while being cute).

>>50419208
>That or they just want to get railed (while being cute).
there was once a thread before the chinese girl ones where everyone posted porn and said that they wanted to be a 2hu to fuck jp users

>>50419226
Yeah it's just a consequence of the average /jp/ resident (and 4chan user in general) being horny as fuck 24/7. Atleast they lived their truth.

>>50419175
Sure, but at the end of the day how you perceive yourself will influence your life.
Some people are constantly thinking about what others think of them, when most people around you don't even realize you exist, and even if they did, how is that your problem?
I don't see it any fun drowning in a pool of suffering when you could actually do something about it, all to impress fellow losers? Those people are strangers and don't care about you either.
When you meet people you can realize that everyone has their own problems, even these rich good looking people.

>>50419292
i always wanted to change completely my appearance and personality, but for personal reasons. i never cared about what anyone else said.

>>50419368
Looking sharp and cool for your own enjoyment is fine.

>>50418390
>No, they're not.
theres a panel in the printworks where tengu and kappa mobs are having a ceremony together. it also speaks volumes that the elitist tengu let kappa free roam their territories, ans its also hinted that the tengu are as industralistic as the kappa, with the top of their mountain, still out of concrete details, being highly advanced, and the kappa are shown to like those who have a knack for machinery
they are shown to be on very, very good terms with each other, and seems likely that they would defend each other if the situation called for it. ZUN showed , directly and indirectly, that these two are friends and allies
>No, they're *afraid* of oni and don't want them to take charge again.
they must dislike the oni for them not to want them back in the mountain, but maybe despise was too much of a strong word
>Nitori instead invites Yuugi over for a drink sometime
and who wouldn't yuugi is, despite her intimidating appearance, very friendly, and also, kind of an outlier among the oni. she gets a pass, the rest of onis are a very different story. still, the fact that the kappa dont want them back shows that the oni probably bullied them in the past, so grudges might remain

Tengu have done nothing wrong

>>50421478
They are just kind of petty bitches in canon. Of the various Youkai groups we see their evil isn't particularly bad but made far worse by how mundane and therefore relatable it is.

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Everyone is so worried about canon, or what some people think about it, or what bad ideas Zun has, but Touhou is, more than any other IP I've seen, a work of its fans.

It's whatever you want it to be. It's a playset with a bunch of premade settings, stories, and characters for the viewer to take and enjoy and make derivative works from and even sell them with Zun's blessing. That's what it's always been and that's what is wonderful about it.

That freedom of enjoyment and freedom for both the fans and word of god to tell myriad disagreeing stories with the same characters is what makes Touhou special. Worrying about someone else's interpretation is sillier for Touhou than any other IP because the entire point of this one is creative freedom. I've read hundreds of Touhou stories by now, and honestly those of Zun himself fall flat in comparison. The works of Personal Color and Yakumi Sarai and a thousand other doujin authors form the tapestry this fandom is made of, not a couple of official works with poor pacing and awkward writing.

What do the characters mean to YOU anon? Why not take a few and write a story of your own?

>>50423149
For me Touhou is an agglomeration of events and character archetypes, which can be twisted in many ways by the fandom.
Also I'm lazy and I don't read about the extensive japanese myth and I don't think neither ZUN does it at the extension some people do it here.

>>50424309
>What do the characters mean to YOU anon?
You see, the problem is that for most fans they don't really have a answer. They don't engage with Touhou as a work enough to really have opinions about things. They just take the fandom memes as read and leave it at that.

>>50424309
>Also I'm lazy and I don't read about the extensive japanese myth and I don't think neither ZUN does it at the extension some people do it here.
you know, that's honestly the most disappointing part about Touhou for me. ZUN is great at picking up potentially juicy ideas from Japanese mythology, introducing them to his setting, and then not really doing anything with them.

>>50425976
ZUN doesn't really take his work seriously, he takes pieces of things he has seen, combines them into an idea and ships it, that has been his main way of work since a long time. Kinda like how people used to make flash games on the go years ago.
I don't think he has like a huge detective board in his studio were he has all the characters relationships and story to make sure his next game has a very air tight narrative just like some triple A studios do or a very popular tv series/books.
And I'm ok with that, I like the random drunk ramblings he makes on the go, he puts more care on the presentation (as in the designs, and the music, and the setting).
When I hear something like "you are not enjoying touhou right, you should do X instead, touhou is actually very serious!!" I think they are missing the point instead, what they should be saying is "look at all this cool stuff you are missing out"

>>50426086
>I don't think he has like a huge detective board in his studio were he has all the characters relationships and story to make sure his next game has a very air tight narrative
Agree, though ironically one of my friends thinks he does and actually makes a halfway convincing taste.

> just like some triple A studios do or a very popular tv series/books.
I mean, when you look at stuff like Game of Thrones(The show), the New Star Wars trilogy, or the Mass Effect trilogy I really doubt they actually do that.

>And I'm ok with that, I like the random drunk ramblings he makes on the go, he puts more care on the presentation (as in the designs, and the music, and the setting).
It's fine for the games but it makes it hard for me to care about the manga, or even the world as a whole after a certain point. It also just makes the characters seem generally two dimensional. A character who is all potential no actual flash only works if we don't actually see them that much. I mean, look at Suika and Mamizou. people bitch about both of them appearing way too much, but frankly I personally wish the story actually went into them as people and their history. We have one of the great Youkai terrors of Japan, a person who squared off against basically the Japanese equivalent of Hercules, and one of the most famous Tanuki folk heroes, virtually worshiped in Sado. Yet both of them are honestly just kind of boring and one note, with even most fans wishing they would show up less nowadays.

I'll also add you don't NEED to think a lot to actually properly use the ideas you set up, especially when it involves stealing from myths. Like, again, to go back to Suika. Nemuno is the adoptive mother, if not the LITERAL mother, of Kintoki. She raised the person that, presumably, straight up decapitated Suika in the past. You think that if there are two characters in the cast that should meet at some point it would be those two. Yet, despite how much Suika appears, nothing. See also: Ran and Mamizou and Momoyo and Mokou.

>When I hear something like "you are not enjoying touhou right, you should do X instead, touhou is actually very serious!!" I think they are missing the point instead, what they should be saying is "look at all this cool stuff you are missing out"
I agree in theory. But ultimately I don't expect to reason with people who refuse to engage with Touhou as a work on any level other than masturbating to the meme flanderized versions of the characters.

>>50426277
>I mean, when you look at stuff like Game of Thrones(The show), the New Star Wars trilogy, or the Mass Effect trilogy I really doubt they actually do that.
Well I meant the well made ones of course haha.
>Yet both of them are honestly just kind of boring and one note, with even most fans wishing they would show up less nowadays.
I think this has to do with how ZUN want the characters to remain ambiguous so fans could fill in the details themselves, kind of how he hasn't allowed an official touhou anime to happen due to the issue with VA's (I don't remember the argument he made about this)
It's like how Reimu is so different in each incarnation of the manga or the games, and this affects other characters too.
With this ambiguity fans can make their version of the character to suit their needs, for example Reimu can be the evil Miko bully that harasses youkai in a gag manga, or the heroine crimson slayer in another one, both incarnations work. What I see is that a chunk of fans want "closure"? if that makes sense, they want a definitive answer to a question or a narrative and don't want loose ends, which again I think it misses the point of the series and wouldn't allow the creation of the many fanworks we have to this day.

Literally everything about touhou is mid

Touhou music is super hard to remember the notes of for some reason. So many pieces just sort of blend together. Has anyone tried this out?

https://cd.thwiki.cc/quizen

Touhou literally got popular because of it being mid

>>50426447
>With this ambiguity fans can make their version of the character to suit their needs, for example Reimu can be the evil Miko bully that harasses youkai in a gag manga,
what happens is that many are obsessed with being 100% accurate to the canon of touhou. hell, you remember how much hate memories of phantasm got here and in youtube, reddit, etc? it was not just for fanservice, many people used the argument of "it is not accurate to the manga"

>>50428096
Yes I know, and I like MoP a lot for what it is.
There's a difference between some fans wanting to accurately show aspects of the canon like designs or story bits in their fanwork (like trying to make sense of ZUN's OG sprites) to wanting all fanwork to be like what I described.

>>50428096
>remember how much hate memories of phantasm got here and in youtube, reddit, etc? it was not just for fanservice, many people used the argument of "it is not accurate to the manga"
To be fair, most of that was due to the series sort of presenting themselves as an adaptation of the games' plots. Which they then don't. The sentiment of betrayed expectations is entirely understandable.
The fanservice was really out of place, though. No idea why they insisted on shoving it in.

>>50428801
>presenting themselves as an adaptation of the games' plots
When did they say that?
>The fanservice was really out of place, though. No idea why they insisted on shoving it in.
I though the entire point of MoP was to ooze fanservice with amazing visuals, as in a celebration of the touhou fandom in general.

>>50427773
the retarded tourist glows in the dark

>>50428801
>To be fair, most of that was due to the series sort of presenting themselves as an adaptation of the games' plots. Which they then don't.
i understand what you are saying but i dont blame them that much because i personally have no idea how i would adapt one of Touhou game's plots to visual media. Not even get me started on fucking imperishable night

>>50429285
NTA but a fairy anime WITH fan service and gags would be perfect.

>>50429441
this take is controversial but if there was ever a serious fanmade touhou anime, i would want it to be some sort of mystery/conspiracy type of thing were an outside world character (can be male or female) discovers gensokyo or a government conspiracy and then has to deal with it. and it also could it have the perspective of the gensokyo characters themselves. and the soundtrack could be an ambient/ethereal remix of the original ost to give a more unique vibe to the anime. sort of sealed esoteric history, but done with a darker vibe.

i feel as though the cast has become far too bloated starting from th16

i would unironically prefer if ZUN were to just retire the shmups and for touhou to only do fighting games/spinoffs fleshing out older and more established/liked characters while adding one or two characters at MOST if any.

>>50429657
fag

>>50429477
As much as I would like that idea too happen it sounds very niche for someone to pick up and develop on their own as it would not be as popular as something mainstream.
But miracles can happen.

>>50429676
idk bro touhou feels like its caught between a rock and a hard place with having slow releases while adding a batch of new characters.
it was fine during 6-14 when the cast was smaller and when fanworks were booming but its a bit more difficult now I feel

>>50428096
Funny thing is I actually kind of like MoP. Yes, it's not accurate to the games but it's still kind of fun in pieces. Very much a story that is stronger in parts than as a whole (The opposite of actual Touhou, ironically).

>>50429477
I want to say "Isn't that just every Isekai?" but no, it's actually a good idea.

>>50429748
>"Isn't that just every Isekai?"
modern isekai has nothing to do with the idea i presented. as i said, is more leaning into conspiracy and mystery than by a cheerful vibe, which is characteristic of isekai anime, except by the ones that are actually good like Overlord for example

>>50429758
I agree. Though the idea can still be taken as very wish fullfiment-ish.

Really, I think the main thing to get down in such a case would be to make the MC very weak physically. Like he can't fight but he can think and as a outsider he has a different view of things.

>>50429778
>Really, I think the main thing to get down in such a case would be to make the MC very weak physically.
yes, but i wonder if you mean physical strength or magical/supernatural strength, because if you actually mean by normal human force the mf is screwed no matter if he is eddie hall or a normal joe. if you are talking about him for example having an encounter with a youkai. knowing that youkai are superhuman i really dont think it will make much of a difference if he can lift 50 kg or 100 kg if the mf will end up having to deal with a youkai or spirit. but personally i would like for him to have a normal human body but to be very intelligent without coming off as pretentious.

>>50429812
>knowing that youkai are superhuman i really dont think it will make much of a difference if he can lift 50 kg or 100 kg
Fuck it, lets make a fanwork featuring the weak mc turning into a gymrat beast with the help of fithus

>>50427773
You are mid

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>>50429657
it's never enough, also I love looking forward to newhus

>>50438687
Nina was a good addition, love me some schizohus

>>50429657
>>50429745
peak secondary mindset

>>50445299
ive been a 2hufag for like 17 years and id be lying out my ass if I said that I was super excited over most of the newhus. out of all of the “recent” additions we’ve had, the only ones ive liked were Tsukasa, Yorigamis and Yuimen. it also doesn’t really help that again, fanworks have been slowing down and are mostly made for the 6-11 cast nowadays.
I don’t think “I stopped caring about the 2hu cast past 14/15” is exactly an unpopular opinion either lmao

>>50445670
im not gonna be any more of an insufferable Touhou is le reclining faggot than I already am and I still do enjoy Touhou but it’s hard for me to keep pretending that touhou isn’t getting stale

>>50445670
>>50445744
What went wrong with Okina?

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>>50400137
https://youtu.be/jq0Oo2Y_uHg?si=PoMBDXiE4hbYH0tr
Consider this commercial an example of a reason to hold zun to higher standards whatever higher standards there could be.

I like and love the touhou games within the range of lolk and just about everything before that with the exception 17.5 I seem to really enjoy 17.5 but, and these are just my feelings and observations, but it seems like at some point most likely before lolk though, for me personally after lolk the games started lessening in quality in all categories especially music and backgrounds, and patterns if the difficulty ain't set to lunatic.

Zun don't need a break he needs to make something new that ain't touhou.

Or maybe he could could take 2or3 years and try to make a game more like dodonpachi or esprade selectable difficulty just primarily a set path with no or little or extra mechanics and bullet rng make it just as difficult as lolk on above normal give it the visual budget as something like fantastic danmaku festival part III and get some old head musicians like yasui yosuke and manabu namiki on it.

Maybe he could do the opposite interms of gameplay and go fullon hellsinker arg bullshit and all.

>>50446003
im personally iffy on okina but that might just be because she felt a little redundant when yukari was already there, I don’t really hate her or think that she’s a bad character or anything like that tho. Aunn and Okina are fine but I think a good way to describe how I feel at times is that it feels like ZUN is just adding chars just for the sake of adding chars

>>50446370
Is wriggle wearing anything under?

>>50446370
>mcdonalds japan works with local doujin group (that otherwise wasn't active for a long while) to make entertaining commercial
>mcdonalds america makes AIslop commercial that shits on you
idk man you gotta give credit where credit is due

>>50446003
Like the other anon said: She feels like Yukari 2.0, or "Yukari but with some credibility as a villain". The problem people, including Zun, ran into is that nobody cares about the bit where Yukari is evil. They like the bit where she is a unpopular screw up liked by nobody.

>>50445670
Honestly, I'm just happy the animal realm stuff seems to be over. Cause I did not care.

>>50446545
Maybe he forgot about Yukari when he created Okina

>>50448017
True,true!

>>50447595
Nope its why I chose this Picture I vaguely remember this little meme picture of rinnosuke cheating on yukari for Reco

>>50450284
>this little meme picture of rinnosuke cheating on yukari for Reco
Well where is it?

>>50446370
I agree on that, I feel less motivated to play games past 15.
idk maybe I'm nostalgia based since I tend to play the same games again rather than moving on. And maybe should give 16 another chance.
Yeah, idk maybe for 2hu 21 we get a gimickless 2hu game.

Funny to see someone liking 17.5 since that game really gets shit on a lot but it was fun to learn how to every character... I really wonder if we get a new decimal with the Tasoforo devs or whoever ZUN wants to work with.

>>50400528
>I see neat small events like Geidontei Memories (an event about a year ago where a bunch of people had set up this replica of Geidontei where you'd drink with Miyoi, gamble with Sannyo, or go info searching with Aya, a real neat find I had stumbled across)
man, that sounds incredible. too bad I'm a foreigner

>>50446545
It makes sense that they're similar to each other, Yukari and Okina have the same job. Kasen too, she pretty much took over the role of tutoring Reimu over Yukari.

i feel as though the cast has become far too bloated starting from th16

i would unironically prefer if ZUN were to just retire the shmups and for touhou to only do fighting games/spinoffs fleshing out older and more established/liked characters while adding one or two characters at MOST if any.

>>50400528
Good post
Nice to see someone who actually enjoys things

>>50400137
>Can we talk about Touhou?
Probably not physically posible, it's all just /h/, /c/, /d/, /pol/, /int/ or /x/ with 2hu shitposts mostly

>>50475346
I want more /x/ shitposts

>>50475597
Why?

>>50400137
>Can we talk about Touhou?
Isn't that what this ENTIRE board is for?

>>50479947
Fun

>>50484237
Don't tell that to the mods :^)

>>50400206
>idk about the booru stuff sorry but maybe someone else can help with that
I actually got the solution, but the problem now is storage.

>>50468262
I wish he would make characters with actual purpose and connection to other characters.

Where's the last Youkai sage? The fourth Oni Deva? One of the children Nemuno is supposedly raising? A Kitsune that isn't a brainwashed mind slave? The Daitengu?

>>50487372
>Where's the last Youkai sage?
ZUN never established an exact quantity of youkai sages, beyond there being at least two back in PMiSS.
>One of the children Nemuno is supposedly raising?
There's nothing that implies that Nemuno is currently raising any children, human or otherwise. Taking in lost children is just a yamanba trait in general.
>The Daitengu?
One showed up in Unconnected Marketeers.

>>50475597
How do you summon a toehoe? I mean toheo I mean twoho I mean togo I mean...
>>50487372
>A Kitsune that isn't a brainwashed mind slave?
So where did the Ran's brainwashed and has to follow Yukari's order no matter what come from? I don't remember any Japanese fanwork with that right now.

>>50490969
I might be misremembering, but in Ran's case, the Ofuda on her are literally 'code' Yukari put on her to reprogam her behaviour into doing/not doing things.

>>50490969
1cc MarisaB

>>50490976
You're thinking of Seiga/Yoshika

>>50487542
>ZUN never established an exact quantity of youkai sages, beyond there being at least two back in PMiSS.
That's fair, but 3 is a odd number to end on.

>There's nothing that implies that Nemuno is currently raising any children,
To be sure, but my point isn't that we know she is raising a child. It's that she SHOULD be raising a child. That would actually be a character worth introducing.

>One showed up in Unconnected Marketeers.
That's still a bit unclear, frankly. I've heard some people argue Megumu is actually just the leader of the Crow Tengu.

Either way: It's not THE Daitengu and we still have two Tengu castes totally unrepresented after almost two decades.

>>50490976
Pretty much.

The fox we see isn't actually Ran. Ran is a personality implanted into the fox girl.

>>50490969
PCB and early Touhou material make it that Ran is a computer, when ZUN took the Shikigami aspect more literally.
This idea isn't officially dropped, but with her appearance in UDoALG there's less emphasis on it and more on an unrevealed past that she was a normal youkai once.

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What does everyone here think of the esoteric threads? those guys that appear periodically to discuss their dreams and esoteric history about 2hu

>>50496278
It's too /x/ coded for me and kind of cringe a lot of the time. Still, at least it's something diferent.

>>50492376
In PCB? Not much in that ending or her extra stage.
>>50492689
Sauce pls? Maybe this is an issue of an old translation.

>>50492678
>but 3 is a odd number to end on
Any reason in particular for this?
>It's that she SHOULD be raising a child. That would actually be a character worth introducing.
Fair if you feel that way, but with your post I thought by a moment that there was something else I might have missed of Nemuno
>That's still a bit unclear, frankly. I've heard some people argue Megumu is actually just the leader of the Crow Tengu.
Going by her profile: "Species: Great Tengu"
>It's not THE Daitengu
Tenma you mean?
> we still have two Tengu castes totally unrepresented after almost two decades.
Fair point, ZUN just kidnaps lore points and might release something after decades or keep refusing to elaborate.

Mods hating Touhou is old news. There's a reason they allowed the board to become filled with vtumors, 3dpd idolshitters and off-topic crossboarders

I think the open-endedness of Touhou is starting to work against it at this point. It hard to truly get invested in any new character or plot hook when it will likely be forgotten by ZUN right afterwards, especially with how many there are now. We still don't know what's the deal with Eiren being surprised by seeing Sakuya even though it's been more than 20 years since IN came out.

Other people complain about it not being vague enough anymore tho.
idk what's happening with people being so stuck up with canon (especially when most people don't even seem to get it right to begin with)

>>50496278
At least I can understand them thinking their dreams and visions being more "real" than canon if they think the characters are real and communicating with them.
Them talking about occult/mythical stuff referenced in Touhou is cool but usually it gets too much into their own dreams and practices imo

>>50498811
>Sauce pls? Maybe this is an issue of an old translation.
Mostly the article in Bohemia. You know, the one where Yukari abuses Ran.

>Any reason in particular for this?
Japan is big into groups containing 4 people.

>Fair if you feel that way, but with your post I thought by a moment that there was something else I might have missed of Nemuno
Nah. I'm just saying it's weird ZUN doesn't do this. Hell, we even recently got a new character obviously meant to prop up Nemuno... and it's not the obvious one.

>Going by her profile: "Species: Great Tengu"
Fair enough, then.

>Tenma you mean
Yes.

>>50499117
ZUN honestly seems to write Gensokyo as a D&D setting nowadays. Which is fine... if 1: The fandom was actually willing to follow up on plot hooks. 2: He didn't keep teasing things.

>>50502160
>Mostly the article in Bohemia.
Funny since that shows her not following Yukari's order like a computer (phantasm stage ). But I guess this is the line:
>藍は狐じゃなくて式神なのよ
Somehow Ran is not a fox but a shikigami got turned into them being different entities I guess.
>Japan is big into groups containing 4 people.
Indeed 4 heavenly kings (fitting for oni and tengu due to their relations to buddhism). Could also be that one(or more) is missing or passed away or maybe they really are three like the three precious children.
> Hell, we even recently got a new character obviously meant to prop up Nemuno
Not Biten nor Ubame? Well I know little about recent Touhou lore so no clue if it's supposed to be Yuiman or who.

>1: The fandom was actually willing to follow up on plot hooks.
Most people here are just for the girls, plot doesn't matter. I fear
>2: He didn't keep teasing things.
Now if ZUN wasn't a dam troll...

I read through everything under the comics section of the official literature page on the wiki as well as PMSS. Any recommendations on what to read next? I'm currently going through Bohemian but it isn't grabbing me like Strict Sense did for some reason

>>50503508
Finish Bohemia. MABYE read Sillent Sinner in Blue.

Then, if you really like PMISS, stop. For the love of god, stop.

I think anon said he read everything in the comic section, in other words the mangas.
>>50503508
You should probably read Cage in Lunatic Runaway to compliment SSiB.
Works like BAiJR might be better read little by little, just pick one article per day imo.
I also really recommend CoLA a lot especially the early ones (everything before chapter 28) but maybe you don't like it since it's monstly schizo rants and I get the impression most people don't like it.

I would then go in kind of release order the wiki has a neat timeline:
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Release_Timeline

>>50504059
>Then, if you really like PMISS, stop. For the love of god, stop.
nta but why?

>>50508630
Cause a lot of Touhou afterwards heavily retcons the Gensokyo described in PMISS. It becomes a far darker and more politically charged setting.

>>50508701
Oh if you meant it that way, yeah I see what you mean.

>>50508701
So what you're saying is that Touhou has gone woke and broke and the void Touhou made led to the rise of Gachas?

I hope there will still be the /jp/ survey for 2026, it's always a great time.