You have to choose...
>>50406720gimme the kuya. youmu is cooler but i need that timestop.
>>50406720Objectively the answer is Sakuya and it's not even close. I don't even have to point to the sheer volume of instances where Youmu's childishness or ignorance caused issues for her, just look at their debuts how how they act and speak.In EoSD Stage 6, when Sakuya's back is against the wall, she drops any pretense of trickery or misdirection and just puts her all into one final attack. She's not worried about herself, she's worried about her duty and at least forcing the player to use some resources.In PCB Stage 6, Youmu does the exact opposite. She's noticeably more sluggish in her attack patterns, and her previously flashy techniques have devolved into standing in place and sloppily slashing. She lacks Sakuya's maturity and discipline, and even her lines betray how childish her priorities are ("My mom is going to beat you up!")Also Youmu is a known grumbler and Sakuya is a sexy and obedient maid. No contest. Sakuya would be a loyal servant, Youmu is a child that happens to work for you.
>>50406720Ran because she can't disobey, I can't tell Sakuya or Youmu to kiss my asshole and not expect a slap or death, meanwhile I can tell Ran to drink all my pee and she will have to it.
>>50406744Sorry, she was retconned into Touhou toriel in UDoALG. She'll comically slap you.If you want true obedience you need Mai and Satono
>>50406720Why are they gooning
>>50406740Youmu is really cute though
>>50406754>UDoALGI refuse to consider this game canon at all because it includes the shittiest designed Touhou character, aka Ch*yari.
>>50406786she's coolhisami and zanmu are worse imo
>>50406786>>50406787Yuri is canon now sorry anon
>>50406720why is it always EoSD-PCB?S-Shou is loyal too...
>>50406789hi cute and canon yuribaiter i don't care yuri is fine but i still think zanmu and hisami still suck sorry
>>50406787Zamnu is almost on the same level as Ch*yari to me. Hisami, not so much.>>50406789stfu and look at pic related
>>50406786>>50406787You're both right.Ch*yari has the shittiest design, Z*nmu has the shittiest personality.
>>50406797Zanmu and Hisami are THE yuri icons of modern 2hu and if you hate them you hate yuri.
>>50406804If you had played the game, you would have known that in the japanese version, which is the only canon version, Hisami treats Zanmu in the same way a kohai treats their senpai, but of course, I can't expect a secondary to know that, you don't play the games at all.
>>50406802What if you self insert as the girl
welp this thread's off the rails
>>50406807Suika route Hisami gets visibly turned on by scolding.
>>50406796I'm not really a Shou guy but 100th Black Market ever so slightly hinting that Shou has an inferiority/victim complex, enough so that she's actively going out and vandalizing her own cards with text attempting to sell the idea that her lasers are just as good as Marisa's, made me like her slightly more.I don't know which explanation for the Marisa specificity in Shou's hand-written message is funnier: multiple people directly unfavorably comparing Shou's lasers to Marisa's to Shou's face, or Shou herself being paranoid about people comparing her to Marisa and preemptively justifying the existence of her laser card to imaginary critics.
>>50406829Maybe Shou should get her pussy munched on by Nazrin a bit more and she'd have less of a complex.
>>50406814It was always kind of a shitty topic, the only reason you'd ever pick Youmu over Sakuya would be if you were just a really big Youmufag.
>>50406829damn she's literally me fr
>>50406836Maybe anon likes crossdressing boys more than icky female maids.
>>50406840The only crossdressing boy in Gensokyou is Aya; Youmu is a girl, a very boyish one, but still a girl; Aya, on the other hand...
>>50406847No Aya is a female who crossdresses as a boy to trick drunk gay men into fucking her pussy in the dark behind bars. She gets off on pretending she's having cute and canon yaoi experiences with the burly gay middle aged to old dudes in the village bars.
just say you like men already dude
>>50406859we only like cute femboys like Aya
>>50406859I like men and I like women and I like androgyny in men and women.
>>50406797I don't get mad at yuumaXranit is just another opportunity to bash yukari
>>50406863>>50406866proud of you guys
>>50406796Shou has a drinking problem. SoPM:>Incidentally, even though she stays at the Myouren Temple, she is a heavy drinker and often becomes inebriated.How much do you have to drink for ZUN to refer to you a heavy drinker? Shou needs help.
>>50406875Imagine the drunk sapphic orgies at the temple.
doesn't Ran hate Yuuma and the Animal Realm in general?
>>50406884she dislikes them not hate them, read the actual game dialog and stop listening to the yuricuck
Why not both?
>>50406884They're more like quarrelling exes.>>50406885Yuricuck is how they smear people who like Touhou enough to see how HEAVILY sapphic coded it is.
>>50406836I would pick Youmu because she is cute and I find retards endearing.
>>50406875i mean what else is she gonna do girl has nothing to do
>>50406875don't worry, she can still be a buddhist even after becoming an Onimonk tang converted many demon
>>50406875>>50406829Man, Shou's life kind of sucks huh?
>>50406907it's why she vents her frustrations on lone travellers too close to the temple
>>50406884she was contracted by the kiketsu to rove sumi ransomware from their network.ran is just being tsun. or it's just impotent dead fox rage.
>>50406911You know they have the most violent sweaty tsun yurisex.
>>50406796Everybody knows touhou ends at touhou 11
>>50406892F-Flattery will get you nowhere!
>>50406754You know what? I'll pick Satono and Mai just to piss Okina off. I do kinda wanna help out the two of them too.
>>50406930This question is controversial but personally what was the last Touhou game you consider canon? Personally I think 15 is the last or even 18. I enjoyed Chimata and Keiki far more than anything in 19 or 20.
>>50407819touhou 1 was the last canon game
>>50409098Pff, you talk like a secondary. Every man who can call himself a real Touhou fan knows that the last canon piece of Touhou media was in fact InuYasha, Touhou's and anime point of nexus that only 99th degree Japanese freemasons from the underground facilities know that that anime is secretly ZUN's real franchise and that Touhou is actually managed by his wife! Wahahahahahaha
>>50409354Primary-kun ultimate truth
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>>50406720Isn't Youmu canonically mentally retarded? How good could someone like that even be as your goon?
>>50406720It depends on whether Sakuya will be able to stop time before Youmu draws, since she can draw her sword at anime speeds. If Sakuya can do it then she will win, otherwise it's Youmu's victory.
>>50409692i dont want to get into powerscling discussion but at a basic level who would win between youmu and sakuya
>>50409703If you're just wondering if Sakuya is a better knife fighter than Youmu is a swordsman without either resorting to magic or some other supernatural ability, I'd give it to Youmu.
>>50406754>Sorry, she was retconned into Touhou toriel in UDoALG.Elaborate
>>50406875DRUNK TIGER WOMAN
>>50409722swords and knifes are different. but i was also talking about the fact that youmu has insane speed. i remember a quote from a manga where she literally says that sakuya's time powers are actually just moving very fast. i buy a lot into that theory, so in that regard i think sakuya is faster. but i want to hear your opinion.
>>50409911>i remember a quote from a manga where she literally says that sakuya's time powers are actually just moving very fast.That's a valid way of interpreting her line in that manga if you're lobotomized and also ignore pretty much every use of her power that can't be explained via super speed.It's funny how a throw away line (infinite speed with no mass) used to explain why Sakuya couldn't just kidnap someone in stopped time would go on to create a massive wave of people denying Sakuya's ability to manipulate time.
>>50409939>used to explain why Sakuya couldn't just kidnap someone in stopped time would go on to create a massive wave of people denying Sakuya's ability to manipulate time.You know, I understand your point. But the problem is that I do get where those people are coming from. In many franchises with characters who can control time there is always that theory or even canon fact that what they do is actually different from literally stopping time and actually more like an illusion. If you ask me for example I think that actual time controlling power is borderline omnipotent.
>>50409911If Sakuya's power is just an advanced form of super speed then I'd say that her more impressive feat is the ability to maintain it for a long period of time, as opposed to Youmu who can seemingly only do it in short bursts. On that note, I would say Youmu is just as fast during that short burst to be able to perform some of the attacks she does with her sword.
>>50410056this question will have a very vague answer but at what speed do you think youmu moves. you dont have to do the mental gymnastics if you dont want to. you can just put an example if you know some physics
Are you guys still on this? It's a dumb question, inability to power scale Touhou characters aside if we're looking at it realistically it's just a quick draw. Both characters should realistically be able to instant kill the other, it just comes down to who strikes first.Completely irrelevant to the op question anyway, unless your first and only thought upon getting a man servant is "I should send this idiot to a death arena to fight others to the death".
>>50406720Sakuya has timestop. No contest.
>>50410462Sakuya is competent in basically everything, she's the PERFECT servant.Youmu is a gardener.
Eternal meek
>>50410462>>50410646If we are going to talk seriously about who is the better servant I think that power also enters but in a different way than powerscaling the girls. For example we could ask how would Sakuya use her powers to help you with certain things.But overall a question I have in my head that is the one I actually want to talk about is how would it be to live with them as your servants. Sakuya's RETARDED question in UM makes me wonder if she could do something dumb like burning the house you live in because she doesn't know how gas works.
>>50410735Anon Sakuya is not retarded, she's just fucking around.Then there's Youmu who ACTUALLY IS a fucking brainless retard as confirmed by Satori.
Youmu could be more fan girlish which strokes my ego and my penis
>>50410780Post it
>>50410793There's something wrong with you.I'd rather just go to sleep knowing Sakuya is someone I can rely on.
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>>50410808Not that one (but still applies), but the one that someone says "It's like talking to a damn wall!" or something
>>50406740>Youmu is a childUUUUOOOOOOOOOOH TToTT
Now the important part, which one is flatter?
>>50406890My balls can only output so much.
>>50406829This is doubly funny considering Marisa stole the lasers from Mima, Yuuka, and Gengetsu in the first place.
I'd have Youmu just so she kills me with her sword and sends me to heaven.
>>50410850i once read that porn actors get cum injected in the balls so they cum a lot. no idea if that's true though, just a random piece of info.
>>50410780Back in EoSD she looked so menacing and badass. In PCB her dialogue was funny to me. But remembering that one dead ass comment to Kagerou I do believe she can be just screwing around. But where do you rank her in intelligence? Didn't she also have that one common sense problem similar to Eirin?
>>50410909Sakuya is at the least normal intelligence.She IS however very out of touch with some things probably because of her powers.
>>50410921>She IS however very out of touch with some things probably because of her powers.I personally think Sakuya is a bit above average. I always hear that misanthropes are intelligent people who came to despise humanity because of many reasons.
>>50410735That just makes it worse though because Sakuya just has the better power for working around the house. Youmu is fast, Sakuya is infinitely fast on top of being able to do so much other shit (rapidly age things, revert things in space and time, teleport, tap into parallel timelines), Youmu's only other neat feature is that she can make another one of herself, which like cute but that's still only double efficiency compared to infinite efficiency.And Sakuya is surprisingly a ditz, but she's nowhere near as bad as Youmu in that regard. You just have to be careful about the instructions you give Sakuya and make sure not to assume anything.
>>50410858I don't recall Mima ever using lasers (even if she did, Mima was her teacher so like yeah no shit), and the whole master spark thing is kind of overblown given that giant laser isn't exactly a unique thing in the first place.
>>50411178>tap into parallel timelinesHow does this one work?
>>50411201That one she seems to just use to create a doppelganger of herself to attack someone simultaneously, performing two attacks at the same time.She does something similar in her IN Last Word, where she compresses the timeline of her knives, causing multiple instances of the knife from the knife's past and future to simultaneously exist.
Out of the two who can have the most friendly conversations
>>50410814This one is canon though
>>50406720Youmu goons better.
>>50410943Misanthrope hereI have 93 IQ in practice
>>50414478I used to have around 120 of IQ and now I feel utterly retarded thanks to brain damage.
>>50413697I think from the perspective of being their master, it would be Youmer
>>50416268 mu