Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkawNew child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF (embed)Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GXExtra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htmElin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wikiElin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_GuidesElin Modding resources/code: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin.Docshttps://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-DecompiledPrevious Floor: >>50485078
>earlygame 'bold threatsovl...
>>50495157>Elona 2.13I have 2.29R and it still runs with Plus and CGX if you want the file to put in the links
>>50495173Nevermind I'm mixing up Plus and the base game's version numbers again, but the renty link is old since we are on 2.29R now
apparently forestry signs stackcombined that with high danger level sea base...oh yeah I'm gonna try it before it gets nerfed
>>50495192That's actually a very good question, is Elona+ built off of the 1.16 fix2b (aka xmas edition) or is it built off of the 1.22 beta?
>>50491953Where's this sprite from?
>>50495198Just download the latest Elona+ (2.29R) and instead of booting ElonaPlus.exe just boot Elona.exe and you have the base vanilla game without all the E+ stuff and whatever version that Elona is, is the one that Elona+ was built off of. Which is most likely the Christmas edition, I don't think the 1.22 beta was used.
>>50495201i made(slopped) it a while ago
>>50495208
>>50495192>>50495198>>50495205As annoying and difficult it is to search the wiki, its a great repository for that kind of information though it also needs updating.As you can see from the picture all mods of Elona are based off of the 1.22, which means each mod stabilized the game then worked off of it. Regardless of what variant you are playing, you're all playing off of the foundation of the 1.22 beta.
>>50495211>only 3 forks are E+, E+C-GX, and omake overhaulGrim... You get piss, piss with actual human translation and the ability to easily modify graphics, or "E+ at home"
>>50495157Merry 2nd day of Juremas!
Are railguns not good compared to crossbows?
>>50495217There are a huge number of Japanese omake branches, it's just that no one ever translated them for us gaijin and they are all as cancer to obtain and install as the blue eggplant fairy omake branch we're familiar with. Nicovideo etc are crawling with vids.If nothing else, one of the good things to come out of ai is how the ease of translation is leading modders to provide support for all 3 languages.
*bushes start speaking Roran*
>>50495263Roran a'whoran
>>50495263>legendary sniper younger sister@Mani is that real?
If I have a +4 Price/copy fee bonus from gold on an item, is it going to be worth more if I increase that to 7, or if I add a +7 price (from like birch wood) into it? for a total of +4 price/copyfee + +7 price?
>>50495269quckspermintentimagine if stats were not capped to 7, alchemy would be so much more fun
>>50495208asking again for an example conversation. do you go for an img2img? do you give it examples to add to context, and then ask it to create one from scratch?
>>50495291this was from the same comfyui workflow everyone is using though
>>50495298>>50495291wait no actually I remember now I just manually edited the wet sprite in paint.net lol last year
>>50495263
Top right tile or top left tile of world, which is furthest away from the road?
>>50495361no nefias on west side unlike the east tho
Looks like Eyth and Horome now have data in sourcechara as of the latest nightly.It doesn't necessarily mean anything will happen soon (if ever), as Duponne was in the files for months and Veseda is still waiting to make an appearance, but it's interesting to note.
>>50495518>Vesedawho's that?
>>50495521Dragon you merced as an optional boss in Elona, dropped a pair of fire resist+vorpal gloves.They gave her a humanoid form for Elin, concept art is in the in-game gallery. Pretty cute tomboy.
>>50495554>They gave her a humanoid form for Elin, concept art is in the in-game gallery.Based af
>>50495567The game is finally playable
>>50495567Mani ASMR wen
>>50495567I want Ehekatl to softly say UMIMIMIMIMIMMIMIMIMIMIMIMIMIMIMIMIMI!!! Into my ear at the dead of night...
>>50496027WHRR...
>>50496394Ehekatl is the most interesting God of the pantheon memes aside because of the metaphysics of her inside from Elona.She is a puppet or an incubator for another God that emerges after you kill herI see almost no one address this or talk about the metaphysical implications of this. It's incredibly Lovecraftian and I would have love to seen it further fleshed out but maybe the fact that it wasn't makes it so sinister. What's worse is that no one, not even the Gods of the Pantheon, seem to know its going on.
>>50496406https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd3zGnC-wUw
>>50496027Soonhttps://youtu.be/QTYXWc2AUL8
>>50496406It's a bit of a neither here nor there situation. The museum acknowledges God Inside Ehekatl's existence with a simple bio of "very strong", yet in one of the answers in the QnA noa says the gods weren't properly introduced and that mewmewmew was a testing function.I do hope this thread is pulled on; gods don't seem to have inner gods by default if innos and keeper are any measure.
Is the only way to get a grinding wheel to buy or steal it from Palmia?
I can manage level 4 areas fine, but the only problem Im having is when I turn a corner and theres a suicide bomber or some overmatched npc that OHKO meHow do I prevent this
>>50496394>softly
>>50496562Kumiromi and Ehekatl are a package deal, you bag one and the other follows and its the easiest way to get a harem.
>>50496672I don't think a suicide bomber will bomb at 100% so better armor and a teleport rod.
>>50496672They can't explode when wet, so throw things at them or use ice spells.
>>50496672Dirty water and/or ice spells are good for dealing with jihaddi mobs. Later on it's the spellcasters that'll really make you brown your pants
>>50496717The cat speaks truth because in Elona they say the exact same thing.
>>50496729Shouldn't have had such a tantalizing 7kg pile of tree resin, dork
why do the foxes look so similar to the corruption of champions ones even down to the clothing
>>50496734Funny you should mention that very specific combo of things.
>>50496734How do we break this to him...?
>>50496738>>50496739Fucking what
>>50496734Have you never seen a Kitsune before? Also have you never seen the backers of Elin list and the list of devs of Corruption of Champions?
>>50496744Check the backers list
>>50496744CoC is a good game if you can stomach futas, you're still a degenerate if you play it but its a pretty neat little rpg. Oh, and you need to be okay with your character getting raped when he loses.
>>50496744Foxes and this backer's name have the same beginning letter...
>>50496753CoC 1 is neat, but it's CoC 2 where everything goes tits up and pisses itself
>>50496759Which is why I didn't mention COC 2, also TiTS is decent if you can stomach the sci-fi element. I found it too contrived that I was fucking a centaur that wasn't a cyber-centaur but w/e
Last update broke a lot of shit
>>50495221Railguns are fine. Better gun potentials at character creation and mani. Crossbow has no reload time for rapid shot though.
>>50496880Nightly or stable?
>>50496898Nightly. The last handful of updates have been pretty dry and small, so it feels like something's being worked on in the background.>>50496747>>50496756>>50496750No need to pussyfoot around it, I get to impregnate Kinu like I should have deserved and that makes it all fine.
Jesus fuck that Special Nefia mod can generate metal race dungeons and if that wasn't bad enough it can generate metal dungeons with a speed equalising modifier.
Do NPCs in my town get stat growth from shared food or only party members currently in my party?
>Performed the first puru-puru merge.Is this japanese for merging a pull request or something. Lol.
>>50497213Everyone will.
>>50497389Saving container presets would be so fucking good.
>give meal to little girl>doesnt eat it>check>isnt hungry, wrong follower>feed other idiot>sleep>little girl "very hungry">wont eat previously gifted mealthis has been a problem since forever fucks sake noaFUCKS SAKE NOAMAKE THE LITTLE GIRL PUT THE MUSHROOM IN HER MOU-wait hold on a minute
>>50497542>gift
>casting success says 80% success>fail half the time or moreWhat the fuck. is there a hidden modifier or something?
>>50497546yes retard giftdouble click drop on themeasier than fucking with the trade windowthey eat it if theyre hungry but dont check it subsequentlywe'd call that am inconsistency/bug, one way or the other
>>50497555nvm, turns out having a shield equipped was fucking me in several ways.
>>50497564
>>50497555>>50497570The ACTUAL cast success chance number is hidden I think, that's why there's so much "99% success rate" which is about 50% of the time
So, are spears immune to parry mechanics because you're not technically in their melee range to return a hit?
>>50497617I wouldn't know because I don't use spears.Maybe the return the hit to the closest enemy?
>>50497542There is a bug where for some reason NPCs wont eat if their inventory if completely full even if they have food in it. Discovered it when i was experimenting with abusing NPC fishing by filling their inventory.
>>50496696Isn't that NTR?
>>50497664Not a bug, the PC is also subject to this. I think it's because while eating food is taken out of a stack into an individual tile. Might be from the "NPC's do not steal food out of your hands" patch, don't know.
Why can I not get delegated farming to work in Vernis? I have it set up in the meadow just fine and it works. Shared container set to hold basically all types of raw foods, policy enabled, crops planted and fully grown waiting to be harvested, several NPCs... what am I missing? Does there need to be at least one resident who has Farming?
>>50497671Ehekatl is braindead and Kumiromi is a shroom, no it isn't
>>50497105it's balanced because it's a one in a couple thousand thingI have never had a 'favorable' combination so far like yours >>50497389he hid container copy paste configs under advanced options
>>50497689Farming sign/scarecrow?
>>50497689Delegated farming harvests and replants crops about 5 days after the plant becomes harvestable IIRC. So with most crops that take 20 days, they're only actually giving you a harvest every 25.
>>50497695To be fair the combination is somewhat irrelevant, metal should be excluded on principle.
>trying out vampire for the first time>get attribute potentials for sucking bloodWow I can finally actually play the fucking game instead of devoting the first dozen hours of my run to farming and cooking autismmaxxing? Sign me the fuck upYes I know succubi could do that too but they're too op
>>50497744Playing a succubus and it is indeed powerful. Vampire looks kinda bothersome though. I would feel compelled to min-max my night time activities and that just doesn't appeal to me.
>>50496880Yeah I got a NullReferenceException trying to load any of my characters in the latest nightly so just gonna play stable for now
>>50497701Oh no I'm retarded.
Is "Healing" the best base healing skill NPC can roll?
On the third day of Juremas my waifu gave to me!Three gold barsTwo rosewood logsAnd a brand new cooking recipe
>>50498158If only the janis here were worth that much
>>50498089I would think so, or maybe a debuff like weakness?
>>50498258No, i mean is "Healing" aka 3rd tier of healing spell the best that can naturally spawn. I see alot of minor/critical wounds but only one adventurer had that one. Gene costs 2 slots but thats not a problem on Roran.
>>50497564Dear anon, you're retarded.Learn to use shared containers to efficiently distribute items to your party.
>>50498298feeding pets manually with trade makes more sense
>>50498302
>>50498336why would I feed my melee pets magic food
Am I underestimating the easy sleeper feats? It doesn't seem like the stamina difference would be relevant for a while, and I usually get a new recipe every time I rest anyway
Is vampire too hard for a brand new player that knows nothing about the game? Or can I just power through eventually
>>50498337so they can go to college
>>50496916>I get to impregnate Kinu like I should have deserved and that makes it all fine.kek>>50497671Kumi is basically Ehekatl's caretaker pet cat so regardless of which ever one you marry or romance first, the other follows. Even on the crim ale bottles in game there are depictions of Kumiromi and Ehekatl together representing a good harvest.
>>50498343theoretically you can't really brick yourself even if you have a slow startthe problem is, if you don't know what the game is like, and you don't know what you're getting yourself into, much less playing as a Vampire with it's mechanics, then you might not be as satisfied vs playing a normal race in the long run (think 3,000+ days)
>>50498351they'll be homeschooled and they'll like it
>>50498340Unfortunately the value of those feats is diminished by the fact that you can get one of the best personal use beds in the game almost immediately with practically zero risk. I'm not sure how much it matters for recovering negative stamina so potentially it has value if you've got a healer and you like to craft yourself down to the negative hundreds whenever possible.
>>50498340I think at some point you need it to get all your stamina back (when you reach 100+ max stamina), but yeah early on theres not much point to max it. Especially if you have a proper bed or a sleeping bag.
>>50498367how
>>50498367Even just using a sleeping bag I'm still getting it all back at 105 stamina. I just assume it's possible there's absurd extremes that you will eventually reach in the game in terms of stamina, and maybe the extra recipes will add up by then.
>>50498352>biggest tits goddess has a gay friend that cock blocks suitorsWhy must we suffer...
>>50498373I think he means by purchasing one at a settlement using furniture tickets. Probably the modern bed from Aquli Teola. You can also get a sleeping bag fairly easily. For me i got it early from the lottery ticket drum in Tinker's Camp
>>50498397Referring to the Hammock which you can easily farm tickets for or just steal right away. Later on you can steal a Futon. Two best beds in the game for stamina recovery excluding Prince/King beds and they're both light enough to steal even with extremely low strength.Feels weird that bed progression is essentially non-existent because of how easy access they are when beds were so impactful in Elona that it was one of the most common things to wish for.
>>50498428>when beds were so impactful in Elona that it was one of the most common things to wish for.That's because it was the only way to actually get a happy bed, wasn't it? I don't recall ever seeing one in the world otherwise.
marriage doko
>>50498459marriage wasn't invented yet
>>50498447Nah, they were rare drops from specific enemies.
>>50498428I didn't realize how good the hammock is. Also only costs 2 furniture tickets so i dont even really need to steal it. It's so damn cheap.
I am in Christmas limbo where I have yet to receive my final gift and I'm hoping against hope that it is a steam gift card.
why is this FUCKING FIELD not DELEGATING THE PASTURE FARMING
>>50498515Big titty, corn fed farmers uwu... Or rice fed, who knows...
>>50498505The game is like 20$
>>50498515Your fence doesn't enclose it?
>>50498548It wraps around both fieldsThe sign shows both fields lit up with the green grid squares showing its coverage effectIt's all one room
>>50498544He's Polish, please understand.
>my whole base is starving (100)I don't like this new change
>>50498555Too much for an "European", huh? I had to pay 30$ for this game and I have not complained.
>>50498562It's like 20 bucks for the game and another 30 for the "luxury" tax
>>50498562>I had to pay 30$ for this game and I have not complained.Just be happy that I didn't come on here and beg you guys for the game, once I get my final gift you'll know if it was a steam gift card or not and after that I'll shut up about it and move to Poland if it isn't.
Am I missing something or is the panzerfaust garbage for actually attacking things? It seems like it's basically a flam that keys off Marksman, similar to how the slingshot was just the option to train Marksman while still using pebbles.
>>50498579>move to Polandliving here is dogshit, don't come
>>50498586Let me guess, Eastern Rural Pooland?
>>50498596no, worse, Łódź
>>50498568Just be like the chinese and reviewbomb the game until noa adds a specific chinese-only discount, then review bomb even more because the game got a discount after you already bought it.
>>50498600How's Tarkov?
>>50498602I dun get it
pshek pshek~
>>50498606>>50498610Somethingawful watermarks their images now? Thanks, I hate it.
>>50498617i'm not a fan of shooters, unless u mean lodz is tarkov but sadly we don't have access to guns
>>50498600>Former industrial centerAh, Polish Detroit.
>>50498617>going to SA>in 2025
I really wish monster balls were more common early.
>>50498652just get some for medals
>>50498622The sequel will be Rot in Lodz>>50498640Couldn't be me.
No way to target which mutations are removed huh?
>>50498666Blessed mutation removal potions only target negative ones, cursed only positive. Other than that, it's a crapshoot.
>>50498666I just save scum because I cannot bother getting enough potions.
>>50498667There was a way to bless potions right? Using a blessed water or something? I vaguely remember something like it from playing this game over a year ago but I forgot.
>>50498680Potions of water on a god altar of the one you worship will turn it into blessed holy water, cursed if it's not your god. Potions of water are obnoxious to get since you either run to Noyel or hope to accumulate them over several Thing shrine finds.
>>50498689>you either run to NoyelCan't you just buy the holy well and ship it to your base
which of these resistances do i need to get to 15/20 before uncapping my fameanddoes stacking DV on gear matter or should i PV max and just let evasion/greater evasion handle the dodging
Does dream larva have to be a certain level to work on food? I blended it and nothing happened
>>50498805No, it should work from level 1. When you gift it to an NPC and they eat it they should poop out an egg or milk and get an opinion boost.
>>50498373The 24 ticket Futon at the fox village plus the Ehakatl Body Pillow from the Casino will last well into the void.
>>50498838>24 ticket FutonYou can just steal it with very low strength and pickpocket skill
>>50498838>24 tickets>for an extremely low weight itemUnless you're roleplaying there's no reason to do this.
>>50498856>>50498851I'm not a J*ere
>>50498585Most of the damage will come from the rocket. I'm crafting +200 rockets right now.It's a ranged attack, which then separately triggers an aoe impact undodgeable explosion. It's not going to have the single target damage of a railgun or assault rifle.
it's morally right to steal from P*lmia and M*silla
>>50498860It is said that before the Juere stole anything on Ylva, they stole the heart of Jure first.
>>50498695You can but it's pretty expensive. People having problems with water aren't likely to be able to do it.
>>50498868Considering it is actually morally superior to nuke Palmia than be an Elea I agree.
you should be able to turn healing books into talismans
so why exactly does she live in a shitty cancer forest with her spiky dog next to an imprisoned negatropy god anyway
>>50498887tax relief
>>50498887>Demigod>lives near a god>it's the god of negatropy>somehow isn't destroyed by the godHMMMM... IT'S ALMOST IF SHE... NAH, WHO WOULD WORSHIP THAT?!?!
>>50498905That would be a crazy plot twist if she actually was feigning her faith to Yevan
>>50498794i forgot to post a picture :)
>>50498887I wonder if the God of Niggatrophy will get a name and if we get an explanation of how and why Yufu sided with him that caused the fox tribe Pantheon schism
>>50498914>Holy>WeaknessTHE POWER OF JURE COMPELS YOU!!!>splashes blessed water on you.
>>50498905why would she be destroyed by someone who's sealed until your ass releases him? she's just guarding the site
>>50498851Im a good boy so I havent stolen items in settlements. Wont NPCs become hostile if I do that.
>>50498922>guarding the siteWhy would Yevan send a Demigod to guard the site when he doesn't give a shit about the affairs of God?
Does using a paper hammer on a 10 comfort bed reduce the stamina restoration? 5 pounds isn't a big deal but I was curious if I could make my Diamond Futon lighter.
>>50498926So he can have her record the fight when a mortal tries.
>>50498926Obviously to keep the Heavens boring and stable so he doesn't have to be distracted with divine wars and can continue to play with his toy soldiers.
>>50498932>yevan is just a stinky shutin painting warahmmer minis all dayThis makes too much sense.
>>50498927why do you need that? a normal hammock without any traits I stole in hour 5 of the game is still regenerating my stamina from -2000 to 155.
>>50498942Because I have leftover textures from making 10 comfort king's beds for efficiency maxxing my residents. It only takes one little sister rescue and 1 dye to make once you have the textures done.
Is there a fixed date when the world resets? Like the 1st day of every month, or?
>>50498967I think in Elona it was the 1st and the 15th or at least once a month or every two weeks, I don't know I just kept on checking until everything was normal again.
How 2 stop aging
>>50498887She is Yevan's daughter.
>>50499068>Has child>"Can you guard this shithole site for the rest of your life so I can RIsk for the rest of my life?">..."Sure dad..."Boomercore
>>50499081She probably only found out about it recently.I mean, she learned her Frontline Commander feat somewhere in the world, maybe in a war 15 years ago.It's not like she's been living here for a hundred years.
How can I see the charisma required to recruit somebody without talking to them first
>>50499100I wonder how she found out she was a Demigod, probably the same war she fought in and she was insanely good to the point that she either put the pieces together or someone told her.
neat
>>50499110GAN
>>50499113Wait until you see the little girl rug
>>50499122whats that
>Thief Guild>gets robbed every month
>>50499132or maybe you're unwittingly laundering stolen gold for them
>>50499132They are promoting the art of theft
>>50499132They are called the theif's guild because they were so cute they stole our hearts
>>50499132>Be Juere>Exist>Things around you mysteriously disappear and reappear in your house>Those things also sometimes replaced by orens>Everyone accuses me of stealing to cover up the fact they are racist and hate my hard work ethic that made me successfulEvery Juere ever.
I found a fossil.
>>50499228That's more than 1 fossil
>>50499111It's not that hard to notice when you've been alive for 200 years (or whatever her average random age is) and still look like you're in your 20s.
>>50499316Well allegedly Demigods can go through most of their lives not knowing they are Demigods
>>50499081and then a random adventurer tells her to join after which she lives in a giant grass shack slum for the rest of her life
>>50499331>giant grass shack slumMaybe its just me, but its hard for me to think of a bunch of grass shacks being a slum, slums in many ways are an upgrade to a grass shack, yet I find that if I was given the choice, I'd choose the grass shacks.
>>50499343>bunch of grass shacksNo anon, one singular grass shack. For 100 residents.
>>50499348with one king's bed wrenched a hundred times
Good job
>>50499453Sue the chef!
I wonder why we can't recruit Erishe
wtf is that?
>>50499590I didn't realize how much a nightmare it is to just go hiking in Palmia...
>>50499596she qt
>>50499596>joeyHOW YOU DO'IN?
>>50499554She has to die in a fire so Vesel mopes around Vernis in Elona.
>>50499783I still don't get how was Vesel such a jobber he couldn't lift some wood, was he a dexfag or something
>>50499750she ded now>>50499769AYYY I'M WALKIN' 'ERE!!!
>>50499811>she ded nownyo....
>>50499829If I knew you were horny for a thorny bush I would have caught it for you.
In Elona, can you wield a katana in 1 hand or do you get penalties for it?
He said, as he hands you a corpse of a homeless man.
Ylvapedia is down. You guys are my knowledge now.
>>50500280how horrifying
>>50499882You get a bonus if the katana is classified as a heavy weapon
>>50500280Did you know that cursed items can increase your resistance to them the more you eat or drink?
Has anyone actually legit gotten a Kill Kill Piano or Gould's Piano to drop from performing?
>>50500326Okay so then there's no point in giving a katana to an npc with a shield, are there any swords that give bonuses to single hand?
Okay, we need to nuke Palmia but the whole nation, I can't even go for a walk with my angel waifu without monsters for the abyss trying to rape me in a meadow.
>>50499882Sure you can. Sword and board has the least weight restrictions.Two hand needs main hand >4s to avoid penalties, dual wield needs main hand <4s and off hand <1.5s. Sword and board has no weight restrictions.
lulwy's ass get
>>50500333Yes, about 3x kill kills and 2x gould's so far.But then again I have something like 430 livestock/residents to perform to so that probably supercharged the drop chances
I had a gold fish in the far left part of the pond but I guess one of the house NPCs ate it? Cause it magically disappeared now...
>>50500635forgot picture
holy le shidd...does noa...post...on le 4CHAN???
Is Geyser land feat pointless if you can just plop a geyser down anywhere regardless?Don't really care about the ether build up resistance from stacking the land feat and item geyser.
>>50500697>Is Geyser land feat pointless if you can just plop a geyser down anywhere regardless?yes
>>50500688Probably not but he probably also knows /jp/ and this general exists if he watched Sseth's video or maybe earlier he knew about it because of the 2ch>SA>4ch pipeline
The hill cave music is peak Elinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4-9f_BMW7s
>>50500717He almost certainly knows of us even if just by association. Us and the #elona channel on rizon were basically the only western resources for a long time, and I know jdestroy posted here too, and a fair amount of us (at least back in the day) frequented that irc.
What's the best way to grind Charisma? inb4 food. Doesn't help that I'm a golem warrior. I wanna recruit Quiritzia or Melilith cause I need magic damage.
>>50500876Catsister Burgers
>>50500884what if you're allergic to cats and sisters?
>>50500876suck bloodt. vampire
Our lives would be meaningless without the Gods
>>50501022but they left
Is it wrong to cheat change my 2000+ day Pianist to a combat class?
>>50500610Whenever I don't get one of these statues in the first year, I consider the character bricked and just delete the save. I even do Winter start a lot to try and time max the first year haven't gotten one in the first year on 4 of my characters. Feel like I just need to rush getting a Detector just to find these statues.
>>50501141it's your story, if you think it makes sense you should be able to do it
>2 floor nefia>2 harvest statuesWew I hadn't even seen one on this file.
>>50501141You could compromise and blow a wish before doing it
>>50500641Okay, wtf one of my fat fucking wives or tenants is eating my fucking fish
Do I really have to kill the cute 12 year old Kobold in the arena? Seems mean...
>>50500849That's what I'm saying, he is Japanese and on the internet so he either posts or at least knows about 2chan, if he knows about 2chan, then he definitely knows about 4chan since one of 2chan's hobby is to watch from afar what 4chan ets up too and comment about who we are all filthy weeaboo gaijins.
>>50501616 (Me)I forgot to add that they probably know about /jp/ since its also one of the oldest boards on 4chan
>want to start with lockpicking and literacy>don't want to be a shitty thief with dumb meme-stat bonus
>>50500379Other than the heavy weapon bonus, I don't know
>>50501635gatcha boxes and hogwartz text books
>>50501635Why care? Literacy is so easy to get and Lock picking isn't much harder?Could understand if it was pickpocket or something almost.
>>50501646>>50501707That's the problem. I get annoyed with how quickly they level and eat plat, wanted something with a bonus floor to each. But thief is one of the worst classes imo. Literacy is on some more options at least. Literacy also falls off sooner so it's the lesser of the two, mostly helps speed up the "oops you summon assrape" part of reading books early. I realize I'm being a bit overdramatic about it but it tasks me.>tldr>why care?Autism.
>>50501757Potions that boost intelligence and sitting at the edge of the map, if you're that afraid of a little friendly assrape you can just put your nose to the grindstone and just grind levels to level 40.I'm assuming you are talking about Elin but another E+ thing I liked is that you eventually got the "Book Club" special action where your pets also gain literacy and spell points while also watching out for assrape and if assrape is about to occur they "shout and point to forming portals" where you "slam the book shut" and you are now impossible to assrape.
>>50501757>But thief is one of the worst classes imo.Not even close. Solid mid. Easily ranks above worthless classes like wizard and archer, and easy chaos domain access is enough to push it up.
>>50501621>/jp/ since its also one of the oldest boards on 4chanI still consider it a ``new'' board ( ._.)I was so happy when /jp/ was made because we finally had a proper place to discuss visual novels
>>50501857>worthless classes like wizardPeople keep on saying this but as a fucking farmer I'm way op with magic.>>50501864Did it upset /a/ too much?
QoL, 10% buff, or unique stuff. Class balance is pretty bad.Doesn't really matter though since pets outscale you hard.
>>50501868Wizard the class is pretty bad.For comparison. witch has a big riding bonus and can make twice the potions (many of them require hard to get ingredients) while having some worse potentials and having slightly worse domains.
>>50501906Control magic is underrated.
>>50501757Oh. I honestly would hate having a meme skill like literacy as an innate, but I very rarely read books before grimoire because it seems to take so fucking long and that's my autism. Seems to have an incredibly low ceiling.
>>50501884I use a cheat mod proudly that sets the platty cosy of skills to not increment with skill levels. Skills already have a decrease in XP at higher levels, no need for that to be compounded by an increase in platty cost.I wouldn't mind so much if Platty was inflated and the baseline was 4 (which is as common as 1 now) and it increased to 5 etc. but 1 to 2 in particular is a ridiculous jump.
Should I just use a Rich Collagen crop on all my foods instead of relevant stats? It feels like the potentials are worthless once you go over 20 points in a stat per food with how quickly they lower.
what should every person accomplish during the first 90 penalty free days
>>50502379Enable the world law that removes it
>>50502379I mean the only use I can see of it is crafting death/die disassembling a bazillion nails.
How does Throw Potion here work, will it require me to give the NPC potions or will they just pull debuff potions out of nowhere to use this?
>>50502379Not die so you get headpats from Nerum.Otherwise carry an altar of your god to your base and maybe do the casino chip cheese.
>>50502379Build a shovel and infinitely dig in one spot for Digging and Strength powerleveling.
>>50502425They generate them, I think they're all negative effects
Probably unpopular idea, but i really wish fish would be separated by biomes. Its so annoying that no matter where you fish you always pretty much go through entire list.
>>50495211Odd how no mods were made off xmas version, before the whole south tyris thing
>>50502458Huh. Wonder if this'd be nice to slap on my mount then. It's already throwing Putit in Amber for Wet, may as well add additional statuses to it.
Ok. So I'm thinking about playing the game again after almost an year to see all the new features.But my browser cucked me by deleting by history for some reason despite not activating any setting like that so now I'm trying to find some of the old sprites I used.The ones on steam workshop and pixiv are OK, but I remember there's this japanese page with "replacer" for a lot of sprites, and I'm trying to find it. Examples include a cow as atom heart mother, genderbent angel and bunnysuit loytel.Any leads?
Do people seriously use rods besides absorbing them? I'm shipping 100+ rods because I never use them and I need storage space.
>>50502671Only with the rod stacking mod.
>gives me 13k effective HP when hostedshe's a good girlnow just need to get her to *love love* and hang out for 160 more days so I can bloom bonds and stack even more moana
>>50502528Most likely what happened is that no one cared to mod it until Noa announced he wouldn't be working on it anymore, then someone in the community stabilized the beta, which lead to people asking if he had the source code or a decompiled version, or maybe Noa released the source code after the 1.22 beta and that was where everyone started.
>>50502671I keep a stash of the convenient ones that I always forget to use (identify, magic map, etc), but that's about it
>>50500688I just dropped one too.
>>50501980This is why average players should have 0 input in balance whatsoever. Platinum costs increase precisely because effective xp requirements increase. On a low level, a skill might take 10 actions to level at baseline, at high levels, 1000. The platinum cost per action actually remains fairly constant when one keeps this in mind, since potential is only consumed on level up; potential lasts for far more actions at high levels than it does low.
>>50502827Except the higher a skill the higher % you want for skill gains that arent 0.001 you dumb mother fuckerso people are already spending MORE FUCKING PLAT TO BEGIN WITHincreasing the base cost is fucking double dippingON TOP of the more plat you spend as the % itself risesso fuck off faggotit should always be 0% potential = 1 plat
platcheater
I love spending years playing music and dodging Older Sister oneshots for 10 level ups worth of potential.
>platcheater is a jaded pianistthis explains so much
theres more than two people in the thread you dumb nigger
Stop being passive aggressive and fucking reply you fags
>GIVE ME ATTENTION WHEN I MAKE SOME SHITTY COMMENT REEEEsee look i can pretend you're every other faggot too dumb BITCH>>50502901
not inside this argument but removing progressive plat costs would feel weird, there'd be zero reason not to go to 1100 pot on every skill you use thenon vanilla it feels like an appropriate trade-off, choosing certain skills to supercharge while having slow but steady progress in everything else, even tactically choosing to not train skills that level up super fast anyway like musicI guess some people are just mindbroken and addicted to the elona+ hamsterwheel
>>50502898>on vanilla it feels like an appropriate trade-off, choosing certain skills to supercharge while having slow but steady progress in everything elseIdk it feels like I need to charge shit to at least 500 pot to have any kind of progress in melee skills or craft skills
>>50502898the person ment when you have a high skill level shit starts costing way more plat at way lower %at least thats how i read it asthat extra third scaling on top of the two already there is useless and dumb extra shit on top of the scaling that already exists
>worrying about skill leveling>when end-game progression comes from itemization anyway
>the guy calling people platcheater uses chinese item mods
Progressive plat costs make sense because it punishes you for grinding one skill (which you naturally do anyways depending on how you play). It wants you to spread your plat around so you raise even your shittiest skills a little bit; assuming you regularly visit trainers and top up your potential.Towards the end-game you also pretty much have infinite plat if you have a full town and a storage stockpiled with every item in the game that can be at least farmed, created or bought.
>Progressive plat costs make sense because they punish you for choosing a playstyle instead of smearing shit everywhere while also leveling that skill thats just as expensive if you do.You may be actually fucking retarded. Link us your shitty renpy VN on steam about depression and coding socks.
Also forced prioritization, skill leveling, plat scarcity, etc. helps roleplaying since instead of being equally great at everything you have to choose what to be great at, defining your build and classPlat scarcity is pretty core to the progression design especially with new sinks like the yearly pet books. Completely trivializing it kinda pisses on noa's auteur vision
>>50502923It punishes people that don't touch X skill for their entire life vs people who dabble in it after investing 10 plat into it from time to time. The game is meant to be a grind, not a "I want to reach 30 farming in a week by investing 100 plat".
oh its a shitty attention seeking retard troll spouting bullshitno wonder the sperg cried about not getting (you)s
Is there an RNG factor when it comes to sleep recovery? I've got 1500 MP now and I'm noticing that sometimes I'll go from -200 MP to 800 and sometimes I'll go all the way up to max. That seems like a pretty large degree of variance.
>>50502936Have you tried stacking luck to 450? it's the meta stat since everything is a dice roll in this game.
>>50495157i love spamming permadeath and clearing the starting meadow only to be 2 shot by a Kobold or a 2B with a Katana in puppy cave. I never get to interact with fun systems like Gene Manipulation let alone the main story; and that's okay because permadeath makes me extremely self-satisfied
>>50502952basedthis will teach you REAL applicable skills and knowledge to get it right if you get isekai'd into north tyrismeanwhile 90 day grace exploit-addicted destinybabs and oathlesskeks in the same situation will shocked pikachu into niggatrop purgatory when they try to dismantle 5 trillion casino chips on day 10 and mysteriously don't crawl out of their graves
>>50502917Pretty much. These people also don't take into account plat income inflation. I have over 6000 plat with all my skills sitting at 300% from tanking up on hunting quests and going to kill high level mobs because each quest gives me 20-40. My cooking, which is at 569, takes 12 plat base to train. Literally half to a quarter of a quest, and the number of actions the training is effective for is considerable.E+ really brainrotted people by capping training costs at 5 and giving 100% potential per train. Just cut out the middleman and use YKdevtools or console to give stats.
>>50502972>E+ really brainrotted peoplePeople like seeing number go up and that's exactly what Elona+ did. It's ridiculous how much absurdly broken shit it gives you access to basically immediately. You shouldn't be able to deforest the immediate vicinity and turn wood into millions of gold.
I think anons shouldn't spea
>>50502984Sometimes I'm inclined to agree since it feels like this board is just a secondary chat for the people on the Discord to fight each other because they don't want to discuss certain topics about the game there.But without /jp/ we wouldn't have cute characters like Umanon and their gunslinging robotmaxxing journey, so sometimes you gotta just deal with the hand you've been given.
For Taming, the brush tool, does the material or quality matter?
>>50503003https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Ranch#Brushingtl;dr apparently not
>>50502908>when end-game progression comes from itemization anywaythat seemed always retarded to me
why does this bitch hate me?
>>50503022You let her die way too many times. Step up your home security.
>>50502972>kill high level mobs because each quest gives me 20-40Happy for you anon, not everyone play this game in a soulless meta way though!
>>50503022She's just playing hard-to-get. Why else would she have Mermaid abilities?
does blood suck just not actually level up?>litearlly 18 uses, still L1
>>50503032It levels up, just takes a while.
>>50503032why don't you have more notifications mod
I think we should all ambush and GANGRAPE umanon next time they rear their horsey head
I'm going to mod-cheat more storage. I can't take this hoarding.
>>50503049Dunno m8 bc once she hits 0 HP and Prays to Mani we'll be in a world of Rapid Cast and Rapid Fire hurt. I think it's best to let Umanon be free.
Feels good staying awake several days in a row tanking stamina several hundred into the negatives from fishing while using several thousand bait passively acquired from nefia farming.
>>505030590 MP, sorry. My permadeath brainrot is terminal and all I can think about is HP and the lack thereof.
what do i buy to keep my base at level 1 so i dont have to pay more taxes
>>50503049Oh hi! Just finished doing 100+ rerolls on my gunsmith. I'd be afraid of this post but my new gun makes me very confident I can handle the world. At least until I start reaching level 100+ content...
>>50503075You start with the policy Growth Suppression for this purpose.
>>50503075Isn't like 90% of your taxes from Fame? I would not be concerned about property level.
>>50503087https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Housing#TaxesYou're so right bro.
Burger get
>>50503011How the heck do you get a "scrubber" anyway? I've never seen one in a dungeon or shop.
>>50503121It's one of the consolation prizes from the wheel.
>>50503121as >>50503122 said, you can get it in like 1-3 rolls with old tickets at prize wheels found in Tinker, Olvina and more.
>>50503075Hypothetically if you just put like 2 signpost sized mushroom farms on each lot and had delegated farming doesn't that shit always just pay for itself? The only thing annoying about taxes is remembering to deal with them
>>50503116gj on the Tephra kill. I can see 3 pixels of your log
Imagine being called Ozohorse
>>50503116Last night I mokyu burger your sister
Vampire early game not worth the slight upgrade in food later. This is a dumb fuck race made by a dumb fuck who had his money stoled.
>>50503133You will farm Ketchup and you WILL like it.
>>50503133are u getting filtered by being a bat or what
>>50503139I guess you can say he is... BATTLED!
>>50503133What's the issue? You're basically alternating between Succubus and Fairy.
>>50503133people like you who refuse to learn things and shit all over the floor and street thinking it's going to fix things are insufferable and should be put to death by firing squad or gas chambers
>anon probably talking about how meals from blood don't scale well in late game even with Blood Elixir>everyone assumes he's shitting on vampire's comBAT prowessguess it's passive aggressive no quoting any posts time. Think I'm learning how this community functions.
>>50503155reread his post bro
>>50503155It's just recently became like this for some odd reason
>>50503155the discord troons that totally dont exist and totally dont think they run the games dev because they gave their autism-troon-checks to noa once are upset someone mocked the donut steele OC race in any way
>>50503155>>50503161Usually they are cries for help or cries of frustration depending on the person. I can kinda get it, Elona+ the first you play it is really rough especially early game until you get your feet.
every race should play the same, we should nerf fairy resists and make it so it can use any equipment because early game is rough
>>50503155>anon completely lacks reading comprehension>decides to embarrass himselfStop being retarded.
Yakasha when
>>50503169>not dodosngmi
>>50503166>Elona+ the first you play it is really rough especially early game until you get your feetWas it that rough? elona+ was my first roguelike and I had a rather easy time.Thanks to you guys
>>50503133>slight upgrade in food8x stats as opposed to 1.95x (1.5 blessed * 1.3 cannibal), vampires can get hungry and dining spot bonuses too.Ok, I guess.Also vamps aren't a backer race. Seriously, your watering can, vampbro?
>>50503169What are remnants even good for? They seem worse than regular meat.
>>50503172You proved my point, imagine just hearing about the game, you start playing it and maybe 50 hours of struggling and dying with death-crests accidentally you realize there is a job board. Now imagine you pick the "wrong quest" and you fail it like everything else, are you gonna try another one or try to do something else?
>>50503179bomb rocks for ENDbells for PER
>>50503168You got me, anon. How will I ever recover? At least you won't since I'm making you Sick.
>>50503179Some recipes like meat bun accept them but not corpses.Also, monsters that don't normally drop corpses can drop remnants, so some people cook machinegod or metal remnants for the perception.
>>50503164It's definitely those worthless fuckwads. Really obviously one or two of them trying to shit up the threads with samefagging spam. They're too braindamaged to get the whole "pissing in an ocean of piss" thing right off the bat, but I imagine that within another thread or two it'll gradually dawn on them that all they're getting for the time and energy they spend flailing around like idiots is to be laughed at by the anons here and the other troons back there.
>>50503183Hmm guess you're right
>>50503164>Pretty standard vampire who does vampire things and has vampire weaknesses>Donut steele OC
>>50503179I thought they could be turned into a seasoning somehow.
>>50503212Considering that there are autistis that consider a sonic model "fan canon" because the arms are a different color I can see someone making this argument.
machine race playable that's upgraded by Mani worshipbeing wet ruins your stats or causes your actions to have a chance of failure
>>50503223I wonder if there's someone out there who loudly argues about vampire 'canon' based on Dracula and ignores how shit like Camilla predates the novel.
>>50503226This but also Modular Limbs. Like, the 11 normal limbs, but you can use Mani to swap to whatever combination you want like a lite chaos shape
>>50503199These threads really do make the community seem extremely tiny.
>>50503229Yes, they are called Historians.
>>50503226>being wet ruins your statsArcane Core is already enough of a drawback for that since Wet increases your Lightning damage taken and AC gives you -10 resistance to it.
>>50503176>wateringExcuse you, b*tch. I have Living Humidifier. I am beyond mere Watering Cans.
>>50503244A historian worth his salt would recognize the vampire fiction that predate Dracula, like the aforementioned Camilla, anon. Never mind that an argument insisting people just continuously copy Dracula is akin to arguing that ALL vampires must be lesbian lolicons because Camilla was.
>>50503032You need high learning to train it fast.Every skill, spell, or ability has a stat associated with it. The higher the stat, the more experience you gain. It also trains your stat, so if you have high potential, you'll notice it.This is good because you can do anything and grow stats through food, then quickly catch up with your skills.
The only shitty part about vampire is being a slave to recipe RNG for blood elixirs
>>50503250>A historian worth his salt would recognize the vampire fiction that predate Dracula, like the aforementioned CamillaThat's the point, its only useful depending on where you come from. If you are a cultural historian, it doesn't really matter as much as many people draw their source from Dracula and don't even know about Camilla. I'd even argue that vampires are such a common trope in media and culture that many people don't even know they are drawing from Dracula or even think about Dracula when they are thinking about vampires.
>>50503265Most people aren't even drawing as much from Dracula as they think. Like Dracula's 'weakness' to the sun is that he can't use his powers under sunlight, it doesn't hurt him. It doesn't even take away his vitality or youth he gets from sucking blood, and he is in fact indistinguishable from a living man during the day under sunlight.
Umanon continuing on, I'm getting into gene-editing my companions now. I already got the two finger slots for the horse, what would be of the next tier of importance? Torso for most overall protection, Neck to slot a Ribbon into, or a Hand so it can hold a Chakram and parry any stray swings that come its way?
>>50503276Yup, which is why no one really cares but historians who then argue about it ad finitum.
>>50503282>I already go the two finger slots for horsesThat sounds terrifying
>>50503282I guess Celestial Fox if you're trying to speedmaxx the Horse.
>>50503316Is there anything you wouldn't want Celestial Fox on? It seems like the best trait by far.
>>50503326Isn't it something retarded like 3 feat point cost?
>>50503326I guess if you were trying to intentionally lower the speed of a character for whatever reason. But even then, Celestial Fox's resists and Life make it amazing. Only thing I can really think of is like, having a Golem made to Parry/Counter and letting the enemy's speed be the character's speed. But it's kind of a shitty use case.
>>50503351Yes but that's more than worth it. 135 Life, 45 Speed, 27 Darkness Resistance and 9 Magic/Holy Resistance is massively beneficial regardless of what class/race/role a character is.Even if you want to argue for three Finger genes for a mount you're probably only gaining like 40 speed at the cost of having a far more fragile mount who is going to be dead far more often and not contributing anything other than giving you a few more turns.
So I never bothered with performing in Elona but it's got me thinking, if people can throw rocks and kill me with no legal consequences, can I kill bards with the same impunity?
>>50503383I'm not sure if you as the player can but I've seen my companions murder bards plenty of times with no karma loss.
>>50503382I guess it's worth it for magic resist for a non-rare pet?Otherwise I would rather have 4x elemental dust for 20 resists to almost everything. Life is a fucking meme since you just get oneshot by everything once they start to deal thousands of dmg so going from 1k to 2k wont do shit
>>50503383If you have E+ you can throw a dueling glove at adventurers to kill them and take their shit with no legal or karma loss, might work on bards, I don't know.You can also be a dickhead and just summon monsters next to a bard and then hope they all maul him instead of you first.
>>50503405Elemental Dust is probably better early on but it's not hard to cover the rest of your resistances with equipment once you start grinding in the Void especially since the Rune system has been added.
>>50503424Elemental dust gives you 5 magic resist per level, not having to deal with resists would allow you to focus solely on skills on equips
>>50503383>>50503391Players don't incur karma loss on killing bards
I ended up giving them another Torso slot and Throw Potion since that's what I had on me. Though the Torso gene also included Fire Breath so now I gotta teach it magic control...
>>50503291I like to think it's just learning how to wear them as earings, but I'm sure it's much more horrifying than that. You don't need genetic modification for earrings
Sorry if this has been asked before. I used to be able to see how many items were in a container before I stole from it, but I can't see that information now. Is anyone else experiencing this? Trying to see if it's a mod issue, patched out, or just intentional.
Don't go fishing while you have churyus in your inventory.
I'm not sure if there's a better way to fight Ungogo than running in circles and throwing my boomerang at him, but that's really all I've got with this character either way
>>50503499Just kite him, his kit makes him a melee beast.
where are my treasure chests you dumb mutt
>>50503578Too busy collecting piles of wooden rubble (as a hobby) and spending time on the slots doing GAMBA
taking my life savings and going to the casino!
if i gift someone spiked food but they dont eat it, does that mean im too low level?
>>50503169how in the fuck?
>>50503176>8x statmeaningless when youre capped to 1500xp per action unless youre using a mod to uncap it, at which point you might as well just cheat or up the multipliers on everything else
>>50503649seems pretty attainable with a self-replicating cube-gallows farm and desire for violence way of autokilling them
>>50503648no they just aren't hungry or you interrupted them before they could eat. don't move into them and don't have your party members displace them either
>teach my black angel blood sucking>she doesn't use it>no option to tell her to suck melame
>>50503659im using it on people that are formidable and they just shrug off the gifts, do they need to be easy/fair?
>>50503682to actually recruit someone you need to have enough charisma equal to the highest stat they have, but that's unrelated to gifting food/eating besides needing 80 favorability
>>50503688is there a way to see that without guessing
>>50503689Get 75 affinity, then ask them
>>50503651Don't be a retard, anon. All xp passes through the denominator of (1000/1000+250*skill/stat level) which means that effective xp is tiny and the 1000 soft cap + 500 hard cap will never come into play in normal conditions.That mod is for people who think smashing a gorillion casino chips all at once to bypass the denominator is a pro strat.
>>50503711my corgon burger always gave me 1400-1500 str exp when starving, be it 600 pot or 750 pot-until I used that mod. now I can get 1900 xp when I eat it while starving with just 600 pot
>>50503711and no you're also retarded since it was shown several threads ago that even with mod to remove the limit, smashing 100000 chips gives same exp as smashing 1500 chips in batches 4 times.
>>50503720NTA but that's what happens when you try to use things way above your level. Get throttled. A thousand plus nine hundred divided by two does work out to be 1450 or so.Blood meal's eightfold multiplier happens at 3025 learning plus blood suck level. At that point dragon meat burgers are worth squat and earned xp will be well under the cap with the multiplier in full effect.So yeah, that anon is an ass but he's not totally wrong. Blood suck multipliers range from two and a half to eight and at each point it will never be throttled, as opposed to normal food eaters who will be gaining only one stat up per four to five meals even with endgame food, which is why some other anon mentioned gear being the main form of progression then.
just experienced my first suicide bomber at my basekilled my villagers and blew my house in half
>>50503762exp is not reduced the higher the stat is, what? you still get the same exp from food whether your stat is 1 or 400. or at least I have never noticed such an exp loss. I gained a level in Str every time I ate that burger in my lvl 50s and I still gain a level when eating it in 400s
>>50503782Ouch. Try to rush your base to level 3 by shipping as much as you can, that prevents all item destruction.
There should be more craft skill items like the Chef's Hat (that are difficult to obtain but improve or expand the skill)what if>Sculptor's Chisel>Short Sword, +Sculpting>Weaver's Gloves>Fists or Arm, + Weaving>Lumberjack AxeAll axes give lumberjack but a dedicated one would be neat.>enemies killed drop logs instead of meat
>>50503872That last one is funny because we used to get meat logs from fish.
I cheatI winI cheat again
I playI loseI play again
>>50502827Yeah which means progress slows to a snail pace while pets eclipse the player.And no, it isn't consistent at all to have a 100% inflation as the first jump.
>>50504609>>50504609
