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I fucked up again edition.

Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF (embed)
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki
Elin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
Elin Modding resources/code: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin.Docs
https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-Decompiled

Previous Floor: >>50504609
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I can't believe it's almost over
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>>50516534
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the patch is finally up holy shit that's a long ass list
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>>50516886
Too bad it's all ASMR submissions. Since it's just plaintext being added, it's obviously stable and will probably be moved to the Stable branch and we'll wait another week for another update.
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Timestop when???
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Divine Summoning mechanics from The Guided Fate Paradox WHEN??????
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sex when
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>>50517690
rape is not detailed enough I think desu
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>>50516518
>Manikkula
Should really be "The 8 Days of Processing" where Mani becomes a god or is loading up or something but I like the idea of each god having 1 holiday, even if the game doesn't do anything to celebrate it outside of Jure.
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How much do I need to know about CoC to enjoy Elin?
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Found this on /rlg/, didn't know that Yeeks were a reference to a roguelike, I thought Noa made them up
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>>50517807
Not a lot but you'll know who backed what if you did play, that's about it. CoC kinda has a "magical multiverse" thing going itself and I don't know the backers took that same angle but I wouldn't say you are missing much if you don't play CoC.
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>>50517819
>yeek oozemancers
should be a thing, should be all female, and should have huge tits
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Stinky waifu when.
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>>50517851
Never, but socks should be something you offer to her at shrines. It would be a funny way to explain the "missing sock" gag that Boomers jerked themselves off about in the 50s to... Well... Probably today; I don't watch a lot of normie or family stuff anymore.
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>>50517864
There should be a god that accepts panties
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>>50517703
true desu
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Hello and happy new year anons! As you may know Little Sister is part of the /jp/ football team we were wondering if you guys want to keep her as is or maybe update is necessary?
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>>50517912
Give me shark sister
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What is the best way to train crafting.
Don't mention casino chip faggotry or I'm strapping you to a wheel of pain.
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>>50517912
I did not know this... Should we keep her or evolve into a Cat Sister?
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>>50517912
where is her month
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>>50518041
*mouth
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>>50518041
>>50518050
its on her month
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>>50517940
Isn't XP based on stamina use? Best way to level anything is to craft and disassemble the least resource intensive thing, so nails probably, might be a few exceptions to the rule if you know a recipe far outside your skill range with a cheap resource cost. And cooking which is fish slices or ~30 of your favourite food group followed by fish slices.
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Was adventurer rotation taken out to allow you to develop relationships with and recruit them? I liked it.
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>>50515979
Yeah but you love to bring it up every few threads as some thinly veiled form of blackmail. Makes me feel real comfortable discussing a niche indie game with other anons.
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>>50518123
To be developed later on.
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>>50517864
>the "missing sock" gag that Boomers jerked themselves off about in the 50s
???
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>>50517940
Casino chip faggotry.
Nails>Hammer them>Nails
You only get 90% back every time you hammer them.
Every crafting class has some cheap spammable that gives back it's materials when hammered except jewelry.
Fuck jewelry, and weaving too because you need to learn the reusable recipe (the pole that only asks for one stick.)
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>>50518211
https://youtu.be/FeIZl1N-SWA
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What's an easy way to get love potions? Kidnap the witch girl and invest in her shop?
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>>50518363
Yeah
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>>50518363
What witch girl? I thought she just sold love pot food?
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>>50517906
Anon of Erection.
Gives bonuses to: charisma, stealth, taming and symbiosis. God pet is a succubus and the weapon is Lulwys panties (that he stole).
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>>50518363
drug dealer also works
vending machine also sells them but they are quite rare as i tested
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>>50518395
>Lulwys panties
It should have a speed proc
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>>50517906
I misread that as "a god that accepts jannies"
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>>50517851
Any day now, stay strong
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>>50518419
Remember, he does it for free
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>>50517912
Keep her, she is iconic.
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>>50517912
What's her stats? What position does she play? Is she even a good character?
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What determines whether an altar will bless or curse your water? Is it just RNG?
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>>50518902
Your god blesses the water while any other god curses it.
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>>50518902
Your god blesses it - all other gods curse it.
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>>50518914
>>50518915
Should've figured. Thanks.
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The random name generator never ceases to amaze.
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Do I get a Koto or do I gank Efrond again?
Is the +3 "makes performance better" even noticeable even if it works now?
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>>50518914
>>50518915
I kinda wish there were more complex god interactions sometimes. Like if you follow Horome or Kizuami, or Ehekatl or Kumiromi, it doesn't really make sense for the other god to curse the shit out of you, since the deities themselves are friendly. I also don't really see Jure intentionally cursing anyone unless they specifically transgress her, outside of maybe a follower of Mani.
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>>50519164
A mod that makes changing from certain gods to certain gods easier would be nice.
There is even a canon chart.
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>>50519188
Elin and Yakasha forgotten...
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>>50519188
I like how everyone likes Jure and Ehekatl except that dickhead Mani, and how Opatos loves everyone except himself.
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>>50519164
I would like a system where you have main god and each god have like 3 allied gods where you can choose one to be your secondary god for half of bonuses etc.
So Ehekatl lets you have Kumiromi as your support god etc.

Mani would be exception because nobody likes him.
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>>50519188
>Kumiromi thinks everyone is harmless
huh
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>>50519243
He basically doesn't seem to care about any of the other still-living gods aside from Ehekatl. I guess because he's a space fungus he might just be detached from other people by default.
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>>50519243
The really weird part is how his relationship with himself is "Guardian mother."
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>>50519249
them being harmless sounds more like he's secretly ultra powerful or something
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>>50519258
That or he's very autistic about his domain and doesn't care about the other gods if they don't interfere with it, which none of the other major gods really do (except maybe Mani, but Kumiromi seems to hope he'll innovate more efficient farming.)
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>>50519249
Kumiromi's first friend was Ehekatl when she was mortal. Something happens to Ehekatl and she gets brain damage, its unknown if its before or after she reaches apotheosis, but Kumiromi helps Ehekatl go from a Demigod or a mortal child of a God to a full blown Goddess herself.
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>>50519188
I wonder if this was an oversight or if Mani actually has no comment on Eyth considering what he did to him.
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>>50519258
Its all the ruse. He has a secret KuroDaddy form where he uses more than 1% of his power.
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>>50519279
He also has no arrow going to Kumiromi as well which is interesting.
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>>50519279
Nobody has a comment on Eyth, the only real new information from the colors is that Jure apparently didn't like him for some reason.
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>>50519290
He does, its the only positive opinion Mani has lol, look at the top right corner of Eyth of Infidel's portrait.
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>>50519293
>Nobody has a comment on Eyth, the only real new information from the colors
To me it also shows that both Jure and Opatos are retarded for not having a red line to Mani
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>>50519311
They tried to eject Mani and failed after Lulwy and Mani tricked him into The Void, they couldn't remove him so he just stayed and they all kinda just have to deal with it. Even with Lulwy no longer being on good terms with Mani he is too powerful to really remove without great sacrifice. Besides, Ylva is full of Gods both big and small and some of the Gods might now want to harm the Kingdom of Yerles so they just have to deal with him now.
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>>50519311
Opatos is retarded, that's the point. Jure herself has a fairly childish way of looking at the other gods, which is probably a product of the fact that she's been coddled and spoiled by all the older gods, who seem to dote on her. She doesn't perceive a threat from him because nobody's ever tried to seriously threaten her, she just sees the way he behaves as 'scary' and assumes he'll have a familiar relationship with her like all the others. That puts him on the same level as Lulwy to her, who she just mildly dislikes for teasing her like an older sister would do. The only god Jure outright hates is Opatos, and just for him being a pervert.
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>>50519188
>Eyth absolutely despises the Clanckcel and the Windslut
>Mildly annoyed by Opatos
Why? this last one?
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Opatos could never be retarded, he gives you the best follower ever just for letting him eat rocks!
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>>50519258
Kumiromi is and alien scout spore sent to find and cultivate life that landed on Ylva and ended up becoming a God by virtue of the fact that he is one of the oldest living entities on Ylva.
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>>50519333
>She doesn't perceive a threat from him because nobody's ever tried to seriously threaten her, she just sees the way he behaves as 'scary' and assumes he'll have a familiar relationship with her like all the others.
He literally "murdered" a god and keeps saying gods have to go, I really don't see how that wouldn't be a red line for her. Like sure I could belive orange if Eyth was sealed
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>>50519357
Jure is a fucking retard and so are her stupid followers.
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>>50519361
This. Fuckin' HATE Jure that stupid bimbo, somehow makes Ehekatl look reasonable in comparison. Actual WHORE. *spits on shrine of Healing*
Goddess of Healing more like Goddess of FAILING.
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>>50519357
>>50519361
Being the Goddess of Healing she is incapable of feeling hatred to any form of life, which is different from Kumiromi who is actually completely indifferent to almost all forms of life besides Ehekatl.
Also she is Noa's waifu so she is a well-meaning, gentle girl who just wants to be loved./spoiler]
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>>50519375
>Noa's waifu
really wish he made it so she gives good faction bonus and stat scaling then
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>>50519375
>Being the Goddess of Healing she is incapable of feeling hatred to any form of life
She actually hates Eyth who literally is a victim of "betrayed and trapped in the time chamber for 99999 trillion years", but she's only scared of Mani the hateful robot faggot.
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>>50519384
>She actually hates Eyth
He broke the pact and we don't know if she hates him or just agrees with his timeout.
>scared of Mani
I mean, I would be scared if I watched someone throw my Boss/Dad into a portal to hell and then told me I'm going to be next at some indeterminate future time.
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Kinda a shame gods having relations between each other in game was shelved
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>>50519357
I said nobody has threatened HER. She's the little sister of the gods but she's been around long enough to see other gods die or get sealed. She just doesn't think it'll happen to HER because everyone else coddles her. Recall that her memory has been fucked with and all the other gods actively avoid telling her any heavy or sad information, like what really happened with her sisters Ondina and Eris. She is incredibly naive and childish because everyone has intentionally ensured she has remained as such.
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>>50519384
Probably only hates Eyth solely because he's the "Void" god and voids are bad and scawy and kill evewything, the absolute stupid little smelly woo woo goddess
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>>50519380
Why would he want to share?
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>>50519404
>I said nobody has threatened HER.
How? Mani literally says all gods need to be gone. I don't think she got memory wiped to not know about Eyth getting voided.
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I think there should be a void quest where you do some shit with eyth and then you actually can worship him, it'd also make demigods good because you get a long time worshiping him
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>>50519426
Only Demigods can receive Eyth's blessing because he is specifically looking for a champion or Avatar or maybe a fractal of himself (IE: a descendant) to help break him out.
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>>50519420
"Threat" means actively tried to hurt her. He simply PLANS to, he hasn't actually attacked her yet. When Mani says "All gods should be replaced with machines" she thinks "That's scary but he wouldn't target me because nobody has ever actually targeted me."
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>>50519250
that's for his twin sister
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>>50519250
#femboythoughts
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>>50519436
With this quest every race would get to worship him but it'd just be like the other gods, for demigod though it should be way stronger.
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>>50519439
That's his self perception, like how Opatos hates himself but doesn't want to think about it, and how Lulwy considers herself an undesirable woman. Kumiromi considers himself the guardian mother of life, which is weird because he's a boy.
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>>50519451
Races having unique worship bonuses could be cool
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What is Punished Eyth's weapon though? I think it should be an axe or something.
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>>50519479
the humble cane
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>>50519479
wooden club +1
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>>50519482
It should be a weird weapon with retarded skill combinations like, imagine it scales with scythe, staff and something else at the same time.
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>>50519479
We already have an answer to that in Elona...
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>>50519491
It scales with how far you went down the void
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>>50519495
I don't remember
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>>50519496
That'd be hard to balance unless the void gets a bottom floor and there's another endgame even more dangerous dungeon
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>>50519479
Crown of Command
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>>50519496
Please no more infinitely scaling weapons. That living shit in Elona was stupid.
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>eyth weapon
>It deals ENORMOUS damage to gods [**************************]
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>>50519509
>even more dangerous dungeon
>Void 2: Electric Boogaloo
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>>50519509
>Hard to balance
Half the stuff in the game currently isn't balanced so I don't think it would matter that much
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>>50519536
void scaling but for weapons would be retarded
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What do you think the pact that Eyth broke was?
>Did he do something on Truce Ground?
>Is it related to necromancy?
>Is it related to the God of Negentropy?
>Did it make the artifact found in Lesimas?
>Did it have to do with the Void?
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>>50519537
half elements being shit is retarded
mages playing the game on ez mode is retarded
yet here we are
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>>50519540
I don't know but I find it really weird that there's no lore at all for what his sphere of influence was before he got voided. You would think we got something since he still has fanatics
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I want Eyth's weapon to be a rod with infinite charge that summons different kinds of Putits until you crash the game.
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>>50519552
Mani can edit reality and there are multiple Manis in the game if you didn't know, so maybe Mani just baleeted that out from the world.
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>>50519543
Those can easily be fixed with some tuning. You can not fix an infinitely scaling weapon because it would just be objectively the best thing in the game which invalidates everything else. We already know this because of living weapons.
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Eyth weapon should become stronger when you "slay" a "god"
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>>50519553
>get enough faith with Eyth to get his unique item
>it's just a fucking infinite charge rod that spawns 50 yeeks
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>>50519553
No his weapon should be a rod that purposefully corrupts your save to "make things right again, but it will require a sacrifice" and it just voids your save.
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>>50519576
>VOID YEEK
>SCALES WITH VOID LEVEL
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!
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>>50519562
>You can not fix an infinitely scaling weapon because it would just be objectively the best thing in the game
Not really, it's really easy to fix. Character growth doesn't exist past a certain point and it's all equip based. Weapon having inherent infinite scaling isn't any different than getting better runes of enhance spell
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The eyth weapon should be an infinity gauntlet and you kill gods to get the gems
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>>50519553
>>50519576
>>50519580
Honestly, I doubt he would do any of these but it would be kino as fuck if he did. The community would shit itself though.
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>>50519593
>every god you kill allows you to summon a new mob
>first is putit
>second is yeek
>last is snail
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>>50519576
Eith of the Yeek. Now we know what his domain used to be.
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Eyth weapon should scale with all of the least utilized weapon skills.
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>>50519606
>Eyth's rod summons one giant Yeek called the "Yeet Yeek"
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>>50519614
Elite Yeek Agents....
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>>50519586
>Weapon having inherent infinite scaling isn't any different than getting better runes of enhance spell
It's very different.
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>>50519618
Yeekaggedon...
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yeek little sister
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>>50519663
yeekle sister
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>>50519369
I'm sorry anon, did she reject your advances?
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Elixir of Gene. Will I eventually learn it if I just hammer a ton of potions or is this one of those things you just pray you get after a few years?
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>>50519884
Keep in mind it has minimum alchemy requirement to learn. I think level 50 (with beaing learnable at level 40 minimum) but not sure. Anyway best way is to hit the skill requirement and then just grind top of the void for wheel shines.
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>>50519891
Are shrines more common in the Void?
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>>50519904
Its more that void is super easy at high levels so you can just Enter Room -> Cast magic map -> go to exit. Since they go infinite you can very easily scour 100+ floors in record time. Good for shrines and statues.

Having "Good" perk helps alot.
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>>50516518
>https://rentry.org/8vkaw
Heads up OP or whoever maintains the rentry this link no longer works.
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>>50519946
Ah, didn't think of that. Time to get to farming.
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is there a way to get a higher level mass monster or am I stuck with a level 20 one?
I cant seem to find any mass monster in the 20-199 range. I cant find a ball above lvl 200 for those fame-scaled nefias in depth 200+
are the choces really lvl 20 and 200+? no inbetween?
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>>50519344
The shota can't lift
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>>50519553
A rod you say?
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why can she suck you
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>>50520321
>14
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>>50520321
Are you a fox?
You can ask catsniffers to suck your scent.
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>>50520063
If you have the world setting that quest dungeons scale with fame then the quest dungeons use void/200+ scaling.

Not sure which quest dungeon would have mass monsters in the spawn pool but have to assume one would. After that it's a matter of getting the fame you want.
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>>50520063
>>50520591
Which reminds me, how does scarab splitting work if you have one capped? How does equipment function? If you take his gun does his (if they exist) copies have a gun? Seems like a reasonable way to have "passive" training and affinity at the base, although probably playing with fire.
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Adventurer import when?
Marriage when?
I want to marry your adventurer or butcher them doko.
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>>50520345
Why are there so many underaged Elea?
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To powerlevel music do I just take music quests and then use the fame received to reroll the board so I dont need to sleep?
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>>50520917
just play music in casino.
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>>50520917
Yeah, I think as a general rule 25 score per music level works. Don't think you can do higher just because you scored that much in a lower level quest. Palmia or Lumiest.
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>>50520935
Im only at 33 music right now but with 15 or so influence in palmia and its giving 5 plat a completion
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>>50520944
Yeah it's way overturned. Make sure you have the settings to auto play music in the character tab. Harp room is always a good shout.
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>>50520950
Yup, if you have magic, cast magic map and rush for big green room on the map. Telepathy is also good to locate big clumps of valuable NPCs
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>>50520959
am i also understanding right that even if you have high music skill if you primarily leveled it on say mic, youll suck on the harp?
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>>50520995
It doesn't take long to learn andinstrument, in fact lute (guitar) has the most songs to learn by a mile, but yeah, you'll be worse.
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>>50520995
Yeah, the way music works is that each instrument has its own XP and in fact each fragment of the song on that instrument is mastered separately. So it takes a while before you flawless any instrument. (still is like 1% chance to fuck up at any moment)
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Remind me, was there a way to increase pet quality in Elo+CGX? I picked back up a save I last played a year or two ago and half my pets have { bracketed names } and half do not and I was wondering if this was just me being silly or was there a way to do this in-game that I've completely forgotten about.
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>>50517912
Since α of Elin ,I've lived in this board, but were there Elona threads built frequently from way back?
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>>50521273
Yes
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>>50521251
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/AP#Change_battle_style
>Chara quality up
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>>50521425
Ah, thank you very much, anon. I can finally soothe the pain this causes my autism.
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Umanon reporting in as the year comes to a close. I grabbed a hill location to set up a wheat farm because I was getting annoyed at how many recipes I have require explicitly dough/wheat and not rice. Problem solved! May next year be even more fruitful, and your taxes more manageable!
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>The dice item actually changes sprite every time you throw it
it's the little autistic details man
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>>50521682
Giant throwing dice weapon doko
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>>50519243
He thinks Mani should make a fucking tractor already.
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>>50521738
Stacking throwing weapon which deals Xd6 damage where X is the number of dice that you have and you throw all of them at once and they scatter all over the floor.
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what about an action/ability that lets you pick up other units and throws them?
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Can you still bite as a Vampire if you use the Kizuami sword?
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is there a data table anywhere that shows the max an elemental resist enchant can roll?
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remember to increase home rank in all of your lands. I get 5k at month at least from all 5 of my plots from home rank alone, that 25k + tourism/inn stuff lets me ignore taxation all together while I nefia dive, for now.
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How do I increase my motivation to play
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>>50521830
do themed or rp runs
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>>50521830
Have reasonable goals.
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Is there a reliable way to get fire/cold resist without worshiping element? I hate dealing with item destruction and blankets, but I'd rather worship a catgirl or something. I've thought about using dragonscale stuff, but things haven't really fallen into place to where I can easily do that yet
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>>50521849
Can’t you just make like 20 stacks of blankets and never have to worry about item destruction for years
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>>50521849
Dragonscale?
Blankets are super easy if you set it up though.
>Farm cotton
>Weave cotton into threads
>Threads into fabric
>Cook wood into carbon
>Just like make Fireproof Blankets
>Have Kettel dupe blankets if you haven't made god-food yet
>Shared container in your inventory automatically distributes bandages+blankets to pets
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>>50521859
They also scale with item quality. High cotton blankets can reach up to 16 charges. And once you have money you also buy every blanket you see in a store, adding further to your stockpile.
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>>50521859
Maybe I'm underestimating blankets. Seems like when item destruction happens it takes out like 3-5 items, so I just assumed they'd go crazy fast
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>>50521871
not rly, 20 blankets last barely like 2 weeks
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>>50521682
If only he uses that attention to detail towards furniture directions
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>>50521774
You can still attack just fine, you simply deal no direct damage.
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>>50521830
Have unreasonable goals
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Has anyone tried recreating Zeal from CT? The floating island, waterfalls, and such?
I really want to place some sky blocks (just holes into the map so the sky appears on floor) but there does not seem to be any block like it
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>>50522072
how
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>>50522088
Horome's sword on gallows
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My prostitute resident in vernis fucked a mass monster and now he went insane and duplicated a dozen times causing a killing spree among the residents
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>>50522130
This is why you shouldn't have enabled that wicked vice.
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>>50522072
So in 5 minutes I was able to bring each of my party members from 1 to 40 magic capacity.
They had been with me for 10 in game years, do allies never over cast?
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>>50522241
they don't overcast I believe
the reason his leveling works is Muramasa drains MP
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>>50522278
neat house
nice cock faggot
what's going on with the fenced area???
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NOA WHERE'S THE UPDATE
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>>50522278
how do you deal with your residents spawning underwater. It's quite annoying
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>>50522283
Those are all enemies
Forestry signs stack and spawn enemies inside radius as well as resources, I was hoping for those clam chests to spawn but it seems that other anon was a filthy liar and baited me. Or they only spawn deepsea
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>>50522375
titty...
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>>50522318
Noa got a catgirl GF on christmas.
It's over.
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Why is my horse constantly visiting me in my dreams?
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thanks ano
>>50523400
year of the horse
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>>50523416
>chinese calander
Further proof ano is a traitor to Japan.
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>>50523416
Is this horse enough for ya?
>>50523427
I think Japan uses the same Zodiac calendar, it's a very old calendar. Usually anything that is old and Asian is almost always from China.
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>clear the house of cats
>level 25
>there are level 40 dragons in the house
Thanks Noa or Ano... Noano?
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Can anyone check the source and see if crafting meat statues has an increased chance of making one of the thing the corpse came from?
I need to make anatomically correct fairy flesh statues for reasons that doesn't concern you.
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How much strength do I need to steal a bed?
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I have consolidated a Healer and Caladrius gene into a single slot. The Fox Maid is now complete: 3 ring slots, Earthquake, Gorefest and Cure Critical Wound alongside their normal castings of Hero.
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>>50524088
Pickpocketing gear is probably best bet.
It's relatively common as far as non combat enchants go and you'll probably get better values than +Str as well as each point being double value.
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>>50517930
>>50517943
>>50518560
Thanks for the feedback anons. Sister shall stay in the team but we will see if we can put some of your ideas to spice her model up.
>>50518823
Sister usually plays in the midfield and she has scored occasionally.
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>>50524146
Thanks. I only just found out how easy stealing from towns is and I was trying to gain reputation with the thieves guild by pickpocketing sleeping enemies while they slept, which I need to do solo. Needless to say, it wasn't going well.
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Where the fuck do you get coffee beans? 2000 days and I've only found a single seed and I have no idea where it came from.
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>>50521871
I'm fairly certain that each instance of item destruction only counts for one charge. You can easily end up with dozens of items destroyed during a single Nefia clear if you don't have blankets but if you do you'll only be down a few charges. It's not consuming one for every item saved.
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>>50524256
Forest Nefias are the best bet. Harvest seeds from wild plants I think Ecopo Merchant may also sometimes have them.
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>>50524271
>Harvest seeds from wild plants
Is there a specific type of plant? Is it the unspecified "flowers"? I've cleared out dozens of forest nefias because I use them for gold bar/rune material/bait farming and I still only have like four coffee beans and a single seed.
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>>50524276
Its coffee plant. Its just very rare. But on the flipside once its spawns its entire field so you cant miss it.
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>safe home mod disables random neutral animal spawns
why...
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>>50524336
stop using unnecessary cheat mods. this has literally never been an actual problem.
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>>50524250
Yeah, a rod of teleport is a godsend.

Always loot the Palmia Castle platty merchant area and the castle in Mystillia or whatever near the scholar, Merchant guild is alright too when you can carry the banners there.

I don't think the platty merchant cares what you do so it's just the errant noble or whatever that hangs around you need to care about.
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>>50524396
It's not that it's a problem, it's that its annoying. Im not a trillion hours in with superpowered villagers that can defend themselves ok.
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>>50524336
Good, hate dumb llamas constantly shitting my base up acting like they're residents. How does Palmia manage to keep their streets clean in this world of blood, gore and shit
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>>50524570
Just dump guns and armor in a shared box.
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Does pasture quality matter?
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>>50524656
I've heard it increases yield but as an item, no.
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>>50524656
my +131 pasture seeds yield like 10-12 pastures per harvest
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>>50524570
All you need is border patrol policy. Tell your important villagers to not move and use build bord to move them in your home and they will never die. And who cares if they die really. Get a healer NPC or two and they will rez whoever dies, easily obtainable. Later on get an NPC with cover and they will teleport and smash the teeth in of any enemies who try to approach your wimp NPCs. The game makes this so trivial there is zero reason to use a mod for this.
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>Got friend game for christmas.
>Hes completely cracked out on it.
>He tells me about his village, takes some screenshots/etc.
>Each important NPC got a house.
>He didn't know about maids and land expansion
>All the 'houses' look like dragon quest 1 9x9 buildings with an NPC locked in a hell closet.
I still am not sure if I'm being fucked with.
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>>50524809
Honestly a closet is better than what most people give them.
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>>50524830
Hey don't talk shit about the humble grass hobo hut, everyone went through it at some point
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>>50524809
>>50524830
I gave most of my NPCs cute houses. Like that one for fairy trio.

....also i think i accidentaly caught some dating drama on the right. You vs guy she told you not to worry about huh?
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>>50524865
cozy. it might be nice if some incentives like room bonuses would be added. i usually dont even make houses anymore, you can throw all beds and furniture outside just fine. there just isnt any reason to make any rooms. and everytime i do it ends up being too small or in the way and then i dread the idea of having to redesign the whole thing.
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>>50524838
It's concerning how accurate this is.
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Goblin cheesecake anyone?
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>>50524926
>goblin wizard cheese
Just like in my Japanese doujins...?
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>>50524926
>acorn pie
>think its a japaneseism
>look it up
>acorn pie is a real thing
>first recorded recipe was in italy
what a weird rabbit hole to go down
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>>50524336
I was just about to start using that mod, thanks for the warning
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Happy new year geeks and yeeks
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>>50524982
Nether magic my beloved
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>>50524982
>>50525003
I have some random throwing swords that send things to hell, it's kinda lame cause they don't seem to drop loot if that happens.
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>>50516518
>Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
New CGX update for Elona+
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If it's not already in the game Noa really needs to add a simple mass-tag item/system for selling shit. I'm trying to farm guild reputation and it took longer to tag all of this shit than it took to steal it.
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>>50524809
I'm guilty of this too, but I usually devote a small space elsewhere to the various activity items, and I think by this third base I finally made something resembling a livable space.
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>>50525006
That's not related. It's literally just flavor text that changes a bit depending on the element you use.
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>>50525252
Oh, maybe I was just unnaturally unlucky when I was using them.
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>>50525206
Anon.. you can already do that. Tag a container and put the items in that container.
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>>50524982
Happy Jure Year!
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>>50525282
Oh no I'm retarded...
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>>50525310
>Happy Ju(re) Year!
It's the year of the Machine, excuse me.
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>>50521888
can't someone just use AI sloppa to autocomplete the missing directions?
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Is the faction effect of Lulwy's armor broken? It says it grants everyone Float but it's not doing that.
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>>50522375
>Forestry signs stack and spawn enemies inside radius as well as resources
wait is that default behavior or is that a mod?
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To an anon in a previous thread, I'm afraid Coralwood armor rusted to -11(+? -?) does not decrease your ether resist, it decreases your "slow of ether progression", which I must assume acts as ether gear.
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>>50525371
I thought I heard somewhere that float in general applies for your whole party, but I can't really check that quickly. Is the enchantment just not listed, or have you noticed them activating traps?
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>>50525505
It turns out it is applying to everyone but there seems to be multiple tiers of Levitation or something because the Wind Wrap only applies 10 but that isn't enough to get the visual effect of floating. I'm not sure what gameplay implications this has.
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>>50525519
No idea. Higher ground consideration maybe? I can't think of any other reason off the top of my head
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>>50525519
>>50525530
Being literally higher and holier than thou should boost holy damage desu. And Jure gives super float angel wings
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I thought changing job/hobby was supposed to teach the NPC the relevant skills. I gave everyone Chores/Exercise and nobody is learning Weightlifting. Do I need to take them to the Tinker's Camp?
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>>50525579
did you not wait a day?
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>>50525582
It's been several days.
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>>50525579
Take em out your party lad
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What does it mean when livestock has a yellow name? I know for normal residents that means they either don't have a bed or lack the items needed to perform their job, but livestock shouldn't need anything, no?
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>>50525653
low hp / died/revived recently
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>>50524793
Don't they lose opinion of you if they die?
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>>50524830
In my current playthrough they only have open air shitty beds. I will soon be giving them open air actual beds though.
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I quite liked Elona, but I'm not too keen on crafting stuff. Is that a major thing in Elin? Something that can't really be put to the side?
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>>50525895
u will craft and pay taxes
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>>50525895
You can largely ignore the home management stuff but it can be very beneficial even with minimal investment.
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So does the "power" listed for bladestorm and swarm that goes up when you level the ability actually do nothing? Looking at the descriptions on the wiki it looks like that's the case, but that's kind of weird.
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>>50525932
What would you say the minimal things I should do are?
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>>50525942
farming
you need food to get stronger
and hiring merchants for your home so you dont need to make trips to random towns often
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>>50525942
Set up a sorting arrangement for loot autodump.

You can buy the best storage box (Sturdy Box) nearly immediately and the materials to craft it are incredibly easy to get.
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>>50525942
Keep tools up to date(you can get away with doing this like three or four times through the entire playthrough and it's not even time-consuming to begin with), set up a Mushroom farm for NPCs to tend to later(beneficial for numerous reasons), make a very basic house and slap a few beds down in it(later on you'll have a single bed), craft a bunch of storage chests(even this isn't exactly required since all the best storage containers are available from stealing or special currency trade), harvest a bunch of trees for basic bandages then collect all the spider webs you come across for silk to make more advanced bandages(bandage healing will carry you for a very long time.)

In general anything you can acquire from crafting you can get through other means as well but crafting for them is just convenient and there are a handful of ways you can make some very easy money with crafting but it's not required. A lot of people struggle with taxes early on but this is largely just a knowledge issue.
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Is there a mod which shows which figures you already have on display? Getting tired of doing a property search every time I come back.
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there are SOOOOOOOOOOOOO many materials in the game and yet Noa does not switch any of the nefia generation up using any of them
copper nefias are fucking BORING, like come on, there are so many more cooler generations he could add, maybe in higher fame.
where are the blue soil forest nefias, dark matter void nefia, iron/steel machinarium, nefias with huge chasms and holes in the floor
the possibilities are endless, given how varied player bases are, it could be the same for nefias. Too much work for one man I suppose. I hope the SpecialNefia/Expanded requests guy picks this up
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>>50526199
Because he's got other shit to do and what you're talking about can't just be haphazardly patched in because it could have a pretty massive impact on progression.
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>>50526221
>Be 40k fame
>fame scaled material changes will mess with progression
you can get rubynus tools in the first fucking month
casino being entirely rubynus invalidates pretty much everything from basalt/chromite onwards
retards really should not reply
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>>50526236
>retard calling anyone else retard
Every time. You're looking at this from a meta knowledge point of view because you're a fucking idiot who doesn't know shit about game design. A vast majority of people playing the game for the first time are not going to get Rubynus tools within the first month even if you tell them you can mine the casino walls because you need a fuckton of mining skill to actually be able to pull that off with Basalt. Know your place, kneel and shut the fuck up until you get a clue.
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Derphy...home
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not a big fan of getting stabbed while sleeping so no thanks
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How many gene slots does a standard character have to work with? 4 after getting upgraded?
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>>50526264
A vast majority of people are also bored as fuck looking at the same dungeon generation at lvl 200+ retarded moron thats why i said fame scaling
I SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED SCALING
SO THE BEGINNER BABYSHIT IS NOT AFFECTED
why did you even reply, I said retards need not apply. get filtered
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>retard presents his opinion as not only a fact but a majority opinion
Damn. People say some stupid shit when they get backed into a corner and desperation hits don't they?
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i dont get hungry fast enough to eat all these lunch boxes from my 8 party sluts
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>>50526500
Shipping bin's right over there.

Or just hand it back to them.
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>>50526500
It's times like that which make me feel bad being a Vampire.
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Remember to worship jure in the festival every year to get her REAL body pillow so you can bump up the rankings for all of your homes
I only did it once tho
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>>50526378
ya
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It's been a year since last patch... it's over...
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he is preparing a whole stable patch
trust the plan
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>>50526521
>Bro check it out, a giant solid gold statue of one of the chief deities
>Yeah that's alright, pretty cool, but bro have you SEEN this futon???
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>>50526608
It's REALLY comfy...
I can hump my daki inside too
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What does improving the alchemy skill actually do? Does it allow you to brew potions with stronger effects? I’ve noticed that throwing sleeping potions at high level adventurers causes them to wake up super fast compared to low level adventurers. Would having high alchemy and brewing your own potions negate this?
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>>50526637
Power of potions is a fixed value that doesn't depend on anything so its pretty shit and falls off quickly.
>What does improving the alchemy skill actually do?
You need higher level to learn the recipe for lvl50 gene elixer. Yeah. That's it.
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>>50526637
Do potions have levels? I don't think I've ever seen a recipe for one but I suppose they must.

I think if you have sufficiently high skill you can craft a level above what you could before, although I think the cutoff is insane and you're better off hoping to level the recipe directly, but I think apart from that any potion at a level is the same as another.

Honestly crafting skills are a bit fuckin jank and I think it would be better if they were done the same as Literacy as a crafting skill - one part adventure oriented, one part crafting oriented.

You could pair most crafting skills to a weapon skill easily enough. Scythe, farming, Mace, blacksmith, Axe, carpentry, Short Sword, cooking, Martial Arts, crafting, Polearm, fishing? Longsword, weaving, Staff, alchemy. Sculpting merged with Blacksmith or hammers and maces distincted.

Maybe in 1.0 someone will overhaul it like that. Melee kinda sucks compared to ranged options anyway so it wouldn't be unfair.
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I need this but for magic / endurance plzplz
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>>50526682
Oh Taming can stay as is cause that levels well natty rather than autistically. I suppose farming would too if the delegation trick wasn't way more convenient than the "micromanage your replant" trick when you're not just growing a stock crop of one strain. Or if harvesting plants gave you farming XP.
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>>50516518
Is it wrong for me to worry that someone who is way into politics might come in here in the future and fuck the general up?
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You're underage so you should not be here either.
>I'm not into politics
Statements uttered by the deranged who have no bills to pay
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>>50526711
I'm in my 30s, I'm just tired of people coming into places where I just want to have fun and shitting it up.
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>>50526718
If you actually wanted that you wouldn't jinx it or create a reason for them to shit it up.
It's like loudly exclaiming "boy I sure hope nobody stabs me in this dark alley" while walking through said alley..
good night unc
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>>50516518
Can you prostitute yourself in this game?
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>>50526779
Yes.
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>>50526683
I guess mag would be triple azrasizzle rice bowl (egg, corpse, egg cheese), end is a triple lively whale stargazy(2 slices, cheese/onions).
Also reminder to harvest eggs from the big sizzler.
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>>50526782
Is it a fulfilling experience?
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>>50526796
No, it's pretty pointless in basically every sense
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>>50526801
Oh, I thought it would be something in-depth. Thanks!
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I genuinely dont know if anything I pick up is strictly better than what I and my partyy already have. Usually in these types of games there'd be a compare/diff tool but I imagine making it work with N companions will be cumbersome..
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>>50526791
At least turn one of those eggs into metal to offset the stink. Negative xp is not modified by potential, and much more importantly, the denominator, so it's such much harder to repair.

>>50526637
The potion of alchemy scales effects with its quality and trait level. The scaling is ok for levels 1 to 50 which the main game is balanced for, but falls off hard after.

There is also the problem of the things you can make being a bit limited.
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>>50526521
What the fuck is that
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>>50526870
Hillfolk engineering at work
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>>50526812
There is a mod to show items side-by-side so you can compare them.
>compare/diff tool
Wouldn't work as well as you think since every item can have a dozen lines that do different things.
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>>50526812
The problem is you can't really compare individual items in most cases. If I find an item with 7 Nerve and 7 Magic resistance that'd potentially be fucking great but I'm not using an item like that if it tanks some resistances and bumps others pointlessly high. Most equipment slots don't have enough baseline value to be directly compared one on one. You typically optimize a nearly full set.
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>>50526842
I forgot undeadgod got their stinkiness buffed, I was looking at the old version.
Azrasizzle is the smelliest man in existance.
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>>50526728
>or create a reason for them to shit it up.
They don't need a reason to shit it up they just do, much like how this little temper-tantrum about a legitimate concern is doing right now.
>>50526743
I'm not the one who springing out about it, right now.
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A putit falls from the tree.
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>>50526936
Do they actually fall from trees in Elona or Elin? I've never bashed trees from either game.
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>>50526946
Happens a bit too often honestly, I think they live in the trees.
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>>50526954
Huh, I should bash some tress to see if it happens in Elona
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So, grapes cost 5 fert each, and only give 1 each.
Being mag is suffering if you don't abuse Azrasizzle.
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Why do they make the description of the cat statue so menacing?
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>>50527469
Forgot the picture
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>>50526791
>azrasizzle
I got one marbled corpse after defeating it, how am I supposed to get eggs?
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>>50526994
Honey into sugar stacked alongside cake flour made with the same sugar to make cakes to shove into your mouth.
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Today I learned that in the Pub in Palmia there is a table made out of meat you can eat for free.
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we are so fucking back
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Decided to check what steam considers as "games like elin"
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>>50527855
cursed blacksmith fits
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>>50527855
>Tropical Monster Girls
>First picture is the rape scene
kek
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>>50527859
Is it good? it got like mixed reviews
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>>50527864
It wasnt first picture, i had to filter through like 8 nsfw screenshots before getting something i wont get banned for to post here.
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>>50527870
I played it during the alpha couple years back, its a really solid dungeon crawler. I even turned off all the h-scenes to not get distracted
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>>50527871
>and it was the rape scene
KEK
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>>50527855
Games that inspired Elin and Elona:
>Angband
>ADOM (Anceint Domains of Mystery)
>NetHack
>Various Japanese life or farm sims (Run Factory, Harvest moon, Recetear)
Game that started the genre:
>Rogue
Games somewhat like Elin or Elona (In my opinion that I have played):
>Morrowind
>Tales of the Maj'Eyal

Sadly both Elin and Elona are incredibly unique both in terms of Japanese video games and Western video games, I don't you're going to find a game like it that keeps its whimsy and humor.
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it takes him a week for a meme race
it's over........................
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>>50527942
If it's like Elona it will be a high speed good mount, plus it's bound to have arcane core.
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what are you saying, bike race has been the best update of the year
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Sex with bikes
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I just murdered the Thief Guildmaster in Derphy but why did I take negative karma for killing a criminal?
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>>50528078
crime is subjective
you forced your ideals onto others, denying them the right to assert their own yada yada or something
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>>50528078
Noone cares about crime except guards, you attacked and killed a neutral NPC.
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>>50528078
What makes you believe they are a criminal? What criminal acts have you ever observed from them? Do you have evidence or are we just making assumptions here?
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>>50528087
I am merely an instrument of the Mage Guild's will.
>>50528098
He definitely wasn't neutral
>>50528100
He runs an organized crime syndicate in Derphy? Why would they need to hide if it was legit?
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>>50528171
oh also, funny text I think I should take a break.
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Doesn't food at at +7 with farming level 60+? Trying to figure out what level to cheat my farming to.
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>>50528171
>He runs an organized crime syndicate in Derphy? Why would they need to hide if it was legit?
They are not significantly more hidden than the fighters or mages guild. The most criminal thing they ask of you is to practice your kicking techniques on their bouncer a hundred times.
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>>50528231
Yet they are based in Derphy, where there is now law enforcement...
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>>50528277
The rent was affordable..
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>>50528078
You absorbed their crime powers.
Karma is just an early game mechanic that encourages you to get stronger so you can ignore it as a mechanic, dont worry about it too much.
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>>50528282
kek
>>50528295
Shit, I never thought of it like that... That's a very Japanese way of thinking about progression, become so powerful that the law doesn't apply because the law can't enforce their monopoly of power onto you.
Yet at the same time, I can't think of any fantasy anime that touches on that aspect.
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>>50524838
>>50524923
That's what my place looked like until one month ago. I only really started farming a few months ago and found out you can farm mushrooms during the winter if you place them inside a building.
Picrel is what it looks like now.
The chests on the bottom right and the clams to the left are locked (insufficient lockpicking skill).
Have you got any tips on storing a lot of different items?

What's the best way to get a ton of junk for jure favor btw? Or is there some easier to obtain material/item in mass quantities?
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>>50528329
unironically just set up recycling bins and let the cans pile up over time unless you're that desperate to get it over with fast, then do dodo corpses or something.
Meanwhile, here's my Hill Cave, or at least half of it. I did some cleanup because I felt bad about the shitbox image.
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>>50528361
Did you mine into the mountain? What is this? Dwarf Fortress?
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>>50528365
Hill Cave start, I wanted somewhere closer to Aquli Teola (gun shop) and mountain tiles (copper farming for bullets). The location is always there, it's right next to Vernis. I have a triangle of Vernis, Hill Cave and a Mountain tile so all of the stuff I need is right next to one another. Yeah it means the scaling for danger level is fucking terrible, but the convenience of being able to do a full circuit in less than a day of travel is priceless.
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>>50528329
Storage chests you buy with small medals can hold 100 items and be upgraded to hold even more. Also you can grow anything during winter or in Hill Cave with sun lamps, it's just that mushrooms don't need sunlight. What materials are you interested in?
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>>50528361
other half of the Hill Cave base btw
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>>50528361
Damn, was hoping there was some faster way to get them. Hated doing ranching in elona so I'm probably gonna avoid doing it for a little longer.
Trying to collect all the god weapons atm. So far I've done Opatos and Ehekatl. I'm currently working on Jure. I know I can't have more than two apostles in the same party, but can I still have all the apostles chilling at one or more of my bases?

>>50528398
>Storage chests you buy with small medals can hold 100 items and be upgraded to hold even more.
I did see them when I visited the workshop. Bought the upgrades for my cooler box as that was just about the only thing I could afford that I wanted. Are there any guaranteed small medal spots in elin like there is in elona?
>can grow anything during winter or in Hill Cave with sun lamps
I don't think I have those yet, the lamps in the mushroom-shed are just some regular lamps I grabbed from some nefia.
>What materials are you interested in?
Anything that will give jure favor. The wiki seems to suggest bread.
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>>50528430
>Are there any guaranteed small medal spots in elin like there is in elona?
Nvm found it immediately
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Small_Medal
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>>50528430
If you're a Demigod or have a Demigod party member who's a follower of Elin (afaik not possible atm unless it's possible to convert Eureka somehow), you can have 3, but otherwise yes 2 is the limit. But they only fight if in your party, they're chill while at a base.
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>>50528430
Either make bread with bone powder, bone plus bone in milstone or crim powder, crim plus crim/api in milstone. You can also use this chart to get more bone if you need.
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>>50528466
That's actually quite useful, thanks.
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>>50528462
>But they only fight if in your party, they're chill while at a base.
great, that's already a step up from elona where you had to breed them
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Any reliable way to get apostles besides worship praying ? Like black angel you can get at the old dev place now garden of eternity hag god. But what about black cat for instance?
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>>50528559
Go to someone else's moongate and egg one.
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>>50528559
If you mean followers who don't count against the Apostle limit, you have Verna for Lulwy, Misaki for Horome, Kinu for Kizuami, Eureka for Yevan, Gilbert for Opatos, Demitas is *sort of* Itzpalt, and afaik that's it.
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>Any reliable way to get copper?
>WELL IF YOURE LOOKING FOR OAK PLANKS THEN-
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>>50528603
Vernis mine.
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>>50528603
Who are you replying too?
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Seems like the bikes have randomised colour palettes
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>>50527930
Honestly if you like Elona/Elin your best bet is to try out other open world roguelikes or mystery dungeon games.
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>>50528685
Can you show traits/stat please?
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>>50528685
I like how they are cyberpunk models, as if they were made with AI installed from the Cyber Dome.
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>>50528690
>your best bet is to try out other open world roguelikes
Like? I can't think of any.
>mystery dungeon games
All I can think of is Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
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>>50528685
>yowyn horse meta is OVER
>we akira now
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>>50528746
Magic Locomotive, my beloved.
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Every time I think I understand the Ehekatl and Farmer stamina interaction, I'm slapped in the face with some weird shit that doesn't math.
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>>50528752
Ehekatl defies math and logic, its why Mani hates her. His little opinion on the relationship map makes it sound like he tried to get along with her and just couldn't.
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>>50528746
I can't believe I'm going from Gold Ship (Uma) on Gold Ship (Horse) to Gold Ship (Uma) on a segway. That being said it seems like they're named only, so who the fuck knows where they naturally spawn.
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>>50528755
ngl i knew someone like that in HS and it was rough
fucking him in the ass in the bathroom was worth it tho
goth bussy best bussy
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>>50528760
The trailer that Gold Ship was transported on was also called Gold Shipping.
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>>50528763
Well since the only other big titty Goddess was yeeted for being Piss Wolf's we are stuck with the magical cat girl for the time being.
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I just got a really rare summon ally book in Elona, how do I know for sure I have space to add another companion and I don't lose it?
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>>50528685
Me making my base a race track
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>>50528741
>Like? I can't think of any.
Cataclysm (Bright Nights is the best fork,) anon listed others in his post. Caves of Qud (if you can tolerate some lefty gender stuff, fair warning.) I know several others but I'd only rec them if I knew people'd like them.
>All I can think of is PMD
Shiren the Wanderer is the longest running and most popular genre. Someone might also like regular dungeon crawlers like the old SMT games or Etrian Odyssey, but it won't have the same random/roguelike elements.
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>I got a wrang-wrang male
FUCKING RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE



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