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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

► 07th Expansion links: https://rentry.co/07th-exp

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Cute and canon.
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>>50533436
Yes
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>>50533413
Still cute but non-canon tho.
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>>50533833
*Ahem*
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>>50533413
This artist is based
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>new Nanoha
Hell yeah
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>>50534638
>past tense
OHNONONONO
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>"You are being sacrificed to the mighty BWC!! I'm the true Aryan."
>"NOOOOOOOO-"
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>>50534638
>心の底から、幸せそうに笑ってるレナが、俺は大好きだぜ
Holy shit Keiichi confessed his love to Rena?
>私は今でも、礼奈のことが大好きだから
And Nagisa did as well, I guess her being lesbian is deeplore or something
>それはとっても素敵だと思うし、少なくとも私は、そんなあなたが大好き
But wait, Tomoe also confessed her love to Nagisa here, so it must be a lesbian love triangle. Also interesting lore that Tomoe is a pedophile

Or maybe [何々]が大好き has a wide range of meaning and doesn't necessarily refer to romantic love
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>>50536323
>Thinks the boy you loved just murdered Rika and Irie and is now chasing you with a hatchet fully believing he hates you and is about to murder you as well

>>50537643
That's why context is important you seething tranny, Satoko is LITERALLY confessing all of her deepest secrets in this scene and this comes right after her telling Keiichi that she knew he could never be her Nii-Nii or replace Satoshi. If you honestly believe that the last words a girl who's completely vulnerable and is expressing her deepest secrets would be "I-I loved you K1... only as a friend though teehee" then you're actually autistic as fuck. The scene and context proves beyond a doubt it's a tragic final confession of hidden romantic love
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anyway sex with satoko
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>>50537821
Yes
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Me and bro when we become MTF lovers
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/139349232
Take a fortune
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>>50537537
Could've been kino
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>>50537663
>>Thinks the boy you loved just murdered Rika and Irie and is now chasing you with a hatchet fully believing he hates you and is about to murder you as well
JUST LIKE ALL LOVING COUPLES
You are an insane lolcow, Satoko hates Keiichi!
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satako's gay
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>>50537899
>>50533442
>>50533413
GIWTWM
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>>50543757
They probably all bounce between love and hate in different kakera. If there's a strong reason behind something however, it will happen inevitably again.
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>>50543836
You know what, maybe Satoko's not gay, maybe her bloodlust just comes across as homoerotic when it's really just opportunistic.
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>>50541236
Troonppeifag...
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Rika sitting on my face
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>>50543757
The tranny seethe off this post is hilarous lmao, not only does Satoko STILL love Keiichi by the end of the story she loves him so much that her mind literally breaks and believes a demon has murdered Keiichi and is using the form of the person she loves most to kill her as well. Read the VN
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>>50546595
Barely a footnote in the entire truth.
In the CANONICAL sequel to the entire Higurashi franchise (the holy Sotsugou, peace be upon it) she ends up as a fragment travelling witch who is keen on Rika.
The end.
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>>50545606
Teppeichads are busy having sex with blonde lolis
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>>50546733
If by that you mean their transbian gfs, sure.
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>>50546684
Preach. Self inserters will never recover from this. Your favorite loli is a lesbian.
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>>50533413
Put Ciconia back in the OP or I will kill you.
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>>50547053
All lesbians love dick. Especially in anime. What it amounts to is that you get to add the ffm tag.
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>>50547053
a raped lesbian
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>>50547076
>>All lesbians love dick.
Definitely not Keiichi's though, since they hate him.
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>>50547078
You can argue that with satokeifag. I'm just sayin pretty girls are bi. She's only woman-only if she's butch.
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>Over 5 posts of just screaming into the void out of pure impotent rage
Satokei broke you so bad
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>>50547088
Satoko could easily be butch considering she only lusts after Rika.
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Satoko lusts after K1 and Rika ships it.
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>>50547164
I don't think so.
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>>50546684
The interview debunk this sadly, SotsuGouRei is SatoKeipilled.
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>>50547298
Proofs?
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>>50547164
This is the truth
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>>50547392
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>>50547459
That just proves that Satoko can't have a romantic relationship with anyone, since no relationship revolving her got resolved with "Just get married".
Once more, you've shot yourself on the foot.
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>>50534638
>>50537663
>>50546595
Not once is the love portrayed as romantic and you know it. It's all platonic from a girl desperate to find a replacement figure for her lost brother but can't replace Satoshi in her heart, she admits it as much.
>>50546595
> not only does Satoko STILL love Keiichi by the end of the story she loves him so much that her mind literally breaks and believes a demon has murdered Keiichi and is using the form of the person she loves most to kill her as well.
She's talking metaphorically in her fit of rage, you retard, we can tell by the very previous scene where she still refers to Keiichi as himself rather than a "demon". Imagine taking that literally.
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>>50533413
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>>50547950
Don't expect much from people that haven't read a single word of the VN.
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>>50547745
Her romantic relationship with K1 (cute and canon) doesn't solve GouSotsu.
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>>50547950
Debunked by the bridge scene where she says "I-I loved you" and by Rei.
Next cuck cope?
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>>50547459
This merely confirms that that Sotsugou is the final end game and Satokomis Rika-focussed but Ryukishi says the relationship is so strong that a phrase can’t even neatly label it
You debunked yourself extremely hard.
The end.
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>>50548165
>>Her romantic relationship with K1
....which never happened!
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>>50547950
Wow this is wrong.
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>"I-I loved you"
>literally past tense
Not beating the allegations.
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>>50548238
Except in the Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni kakeras and its crossover universes.
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>>50548251
All failed Kakeras and dead ends.
Shitsugou is the final true good end. I don’t like it but it’s the end, it’s the final truth. The ultimate Higurashi no Kek.
Ryukishi laughs at you when you cry,
Until he retcons it again. Hack.
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>>50548269
Good thing it's canon in Sotsugou then.
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>>50548251
Not even once.
>>50548281
It isn't.
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>>50548281
Yes the whole point of Sotsugou is Satoko x Rika.
That’s what you meant right? Not some k1 sideshow that never even matters lmao. You lack love. Goat.
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>>50548322
Satoko lacks romantic love for Rika, while you seem to lacking in media literacy sadly.
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>>50548341
Wrong.
Leaving aside the obvious obsessional romantic love she shows in shitty Sotsugou anime we have this proof here from the Hack.
>>50547459
It exceeds romantic love. It can’t be neatly labelled. It’s just that powerful.
You lack a brain. Fucking scum. Stay in your lane and don’t argue with your superiors. You are simply a joke in these threads.
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>>50548388
There was the need for it to be impossible for a romantic relationship between the two.
Simply impossible. Word of god has spoke. The SatoRika ship has been forever sacrificed and decanonized for the sake of an eternal SatoKei victory: ABSOLUTE KINO.
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>>50548410
Italianon tier poster.
Take your meds.
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>>50548586
No rebuttal, as expected.
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>>>/vg/553022234
leave /vn/ alone
thanks
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Tsumihoroboshi is the first chapter where the translation feels off, it's like they dumbed it down for no reason and don't expect people to remember Meakashi. For example Shion didn't say Oryou's name twice, she just said 'baa-san' once.
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>>50537663
>>50544740
>>50546684
BTW just wanted to add there's a theory I saw that Satoko suffers from Anxious-Preocupied attachment from losing Satoshi which is a good explanation for why she's so obsessed with Rika in Sotsu / Meguri because when they lived together Rika inadvertently took Satoshi's place as a caring caregiver she could trust
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>>50547950
>Not once is the love portrayed as romantic and you know it.
Right because Keiichi thinking about how he wants to spend the rest of his life seeing her smile while digging teppeis grave isn't obvious enough or that it was her smile that he saw the very first day he came to the village that restored the color back in his life. Do you need the story to hold your hand with a image in the right hand corner showing you what emotions are being expressed and how you the reader should react you fucking autist?
> she admits it as much.
She admits to Keiichi that she wanted him to take the spot Satoshi had for her but realized it was wrong to try to do that and that he could never be her Nii-Nii before admitting she loved him. It's pretty fucking simple to understand unless you're purposely being retarded.

>She's talking metaphorically in her fit of rage, you retard
Except she literally isn't you fucking retard, she shoves Keiichi off the bridge fully believing it is a demon taking his form after killing him. But this just shows you're a secondary retard who's never read the VN promptly kill yourself as soon as possible
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>>50548597
Don't expect anything besides shitposting from troons who've never even read the VN anon
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>>50548597
Sorry I don’t live here 24/7 and I see no need to argue with trash that says ABSOLUTE KINO.
You live on the /tv/ board in 2012? Worthless.
>>50550252
The point is the VN is not the true end anymore, accept your saviour that is Shitsugou.
Honestly why you even get this upset over the lore is amazing. This franchise lost its way a long time ago, just enjoy the ride and don’t worry about the canon too much. If Ryukishi needs more cash he’ll change it all again.
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>>50550250
nta You're coping hard. Keiichi says "our" a lot, our happy days will continue after Teppei dies, our club activities...etc. He's referring to the whole squad not just him with Satoko. MioKeii is the ultimate Keiichi ship.
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>>50550721
He talks about how much fun "we" had in the beginning before he goes off talking about how everything changed the day Satoko came over and cooked bento for him, saying how he vowed to have a place within her heart even if that means being her Nii-Nii before ending it with him saying he'll take back his sunny days and spend them at his leisure.
This may be hard to understand as a retard but this scene is an example of how selfish Keiichi can be with his feelings, that's kinda the whole point of this chapter that his love for Satoko has become borderline obsessive to the point where he never stops to talk to her one on one about what SHE wants and instead goes off on his own to solve everything himself because that's what HE wants. If Satoko had any idea that Keiichi was about to fucking murder someone for her she'd immediately end that right then and there as that's the LAST thing she'd want from someone she loves to do for her.
>MioKeii is the ultimate Keiichi ship
The most reddit ship imaginable, just because tomboys give her a boner doesn't mean Keiichi loves her
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Honestly, Satoko might be the most boring character to obsess over.
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>>50551324
No that's Mion and I say this not as a Satokofag
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>>50551369
Mion threw bricks at people at least
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>>50551369
Satoko is unlikable and has an annoying voice but she at least gets some screen time, Rika on the other hand is very likable/intriguing but doesn't do shit until the answer arcs. Mion/Shion are pure rizz and have shit to do in both arcs, Rena makes Onikakushi a haunting chapter for new readers. Keiichi is... uh, he exists.
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>>50551324
Guess someone had a really bad relationship with their own sister....
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>>50550854
>"completely different from romantic feelings"
Get fucked. She's the most helpless out of the whole group and had a mental breakdown in class so Keiichi was willing to kill for her, that doesn't mean he's in love or anything like that.
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>>50552569
>One character can't have think one thing at the beginning of the story and then think a different thing by the end!!1!
Lmao you're such a fucking loser you might as well ignore pretty much every single story ever made then. Keiichi also says in that very same thought that he's never felt these feelings before, a 14 year olds boy idea of a romantic feelings is very different from what romantic feelings actually are. He mentions that it's a warm gentle feeling in his chest, that he isn't nervous or panicky about being with Satoko but calm, relaxed, simply happy. If you think every single couple out there are constantly on their nerves end with their heart panicking just being around them then you've clearly never been in a relationship before, then again I'm not really suprised if you can't even see the love between Satoko and Keiichi LOL!

>She's the most helpless out of the whole group and had a mental breakdown in class so Keiichi was willing to kill for her, that doesn't mean he's in love or anything like that.

You know who else was helpless and having a mental breakdown?
Rena.
Mion.
But does he become as obsessed and protective about saving them? No, he keeps his wits about him and doesn't go fucking insane over their suffering. And it's preciesly because they don't hold a deeper place in his heart compared to Satoko that he's able to stay somewhat rational and even save them in the end, the only reason he didn't murder Teppei in Minagoroshi was because he had faint memories of his previous loop when he DID kill Teppei and having Shion freak out helped him calm down and learn to be more cool about it.
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uhhhhhh what the fuck??? this doesn't make any sense keiichi said Mion wasn't his friend first but then he said she was?? wut???
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>>50552634
>Rena
>But does he become as obsessed and protective about saving them? No,
Because she's not powerless, she casually murders Rina and Teppei.
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>>50552983
Satoko is able to single-handedly wipe out the entire mountain dog division with her traps alone. She's not powerless.
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>>50552994
Broccoli or cauliflower?
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>>50550529
Kino was not used on /tv/ in 2012.
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>>50533413
Bratoko
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>>50553936
Whatever /tv/ archivist.
Your post is SHIT because you lack love.
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Umineko is all about love and yet it's shit.
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Umineko is about burying your head in sand and saying "it's fine"
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Umineko is about burying your head in the sand yet the true fun begins when you become a #truther
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Umineko is about how Ryukishi doesn't like actual mysteries.
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>>50556660
fat cat thighs...
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>>50556788
Higurashi was a more coherent mystery story but Umineko made me feel more, by the end Ange kinda stomped my soul.
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ryukishi07 is really remarkable. he's like... the worlds first "lolicon" guy to get so into girls that he got into what they grow into. it's really something. I didn't think that could happen.

every woman in umineko is like. ok here's a little girl. and then here's the conditions that patriarchy inflicted on her as she grew up into a woman and here's the woman who she now is. he just got so so into what happens to a girl that he got into women.
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>>50557921
Where'd you copypaste this from? I'd guess reddit from the content by the lapslock seems more tumblr
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>>50558798
Twitter
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>>50556975
Being stomped by that warpig could really end a man. Fat tank powered by money and hatred and schizoprenia. Not only that but she was born ginger in Japan.
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I really didn't like Keiichi vs Rena in Tsumihoroboshi-hen, hopefully they did it better in the anime. The foreshadowing was as subtle as a brick to the head, I mean you knew from the water gun fight that they'll eventually duel. The police anime-gasping like it's a DBZ fight was goofy as hell but some of the kidnapped kids cheering for Rena was just bad writing. Then there's the weird flirty KeiRena banter, it honestly felt like the stakes were lower than in the water gun fight. Ryukishi isn't good at action scenes, his characters apparently have infinite stamina and can't land a hit on each other in a 10-15 minutes fight because they're just sooo evenly matched! Oh yeah, Keiichi sucks ass, he can't do anything on his own other than cry all day. Tsumihoroboshi-hen had a strong start and a weak end. As a concept I think their duel would've worked better if it happened at the dam construction site and they were all alone at the start, with their friends showing up near the end and hearing the metal clashes from a distance.
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>>50559920
No the anime is just crap in comparison to the anime, they hit a low part of the budget or something unfortunately during that Tsumi arc.
It's been over a decade since my first read but I remember being fully in on the despair and felt the bad end coming. So the shift felt really good for me. It wasn't necessarily good action sure but it describes the emotions perfectly.
>cry all day
You're being pretty facetious here unless you really believe that.
>I knew from the watergun fight they'd eventually duel
I don't really believe that. It's foreshadowing in hindsight but up until then when did anything like a duel ever happen? They murder each other and drop each other they don't duel. Like they've played so many club games at this point why would you suddenly see the watergun fight in particular and guess they'd duel? Maybe pick up on an adversarial rivalry being set up between the two but a duel? I'm not saying it's impossible or anything it's just weird.
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>>50561215
Keiichi's inner monologue was going on about how he wishes the water gun fight would never end and that he wishes they could do it again some day, also Rena finishes with a melee-style water slash that the narration compares to a blade of water. In Onikakushi-hen when Keiichi was going insane with Satoshi's baseball bat, Rena *did* confront him with her Japanese machete and he nearly dropped the bat in terror. Tsumihoroboshi-hen looked like a Rena focused chapter from the start so basically my theory was that if the roles are reversed, Keiichi would fight her with Satoshi's bat and that would probably be the climax of the chapter cuz how do you go from trying to kill someone with a machete to normal club activities? You don't.
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https://x.com/deitysexual/status/2009925932354883952
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Reminder not to eat authentic Asian food, only eat it if it's made by a white person in a first world country.
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furude nipa
cant post nipa anywhere anymore :(



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