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Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw - Multiple links in this rentry are dead or out of date, save us Anon!
New child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki
Elin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
Elin Modding resources/code: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin.Docs
https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-Decompiled

Previous Floor: >>50528934
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>>50549647
How far along is Elin? I have the original 1.0 release
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I would DESTROY Lulwy in bed.
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Do people do things 100% legit after their first playthrough? From now on I'll forever play with 5x recipes when sleeping. It's the only outright number tweak cheat mod I have.
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Item Idea: Training weights
Allows you to select a minimum burden tier.
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Umanon here once again, I think I'm finally done prettying up my Hill Cave base! Here's a picture at full zoom-out, or at least as best as I know how to take it, hope this gives some inspiration to you all to build neat places of your own!
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>>50549724
I played about 500 hours vanilla and now I'm playing with QoL mods such as auto act with allies so that I can strip mine a nefia or deforest the wild in a fraction of the time.
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>>50549746
>auto act with allies
I think that's a little overkill
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I'm a cheater.
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>>50549749
In what way? It's just cutting down on one of the most time-consuming and tedious aspects of the game and it's doing so in a way that doesn't involve experience multipliers.
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>>50549757
That's not good, you should be faithful to your god.
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>>50549749
he;s not gaining exp having allies do his work so it evens out
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What weapons are you using? I hope there are more artifacts in the future.
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Guys do you like my hammer shaped farm
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>>50549808

I guess you could say it's
p.nice
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Mokyu
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>>50549788
God weapons, laser pistols, Staff of the Magius/Insanity and a handful of adamantite/ether weapons which are finally starting to match/overtake god weapons.
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Which starting gift should you get from Fiama? The ring seems like it'd be the most useful in the long run, but I have no idea how long it'll take me to get seven league boots, so the shoes are sounding pretty good...
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>>50549823
I don't think it really matters
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What do I even do with this?
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>>50549845
sex
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>>50549823
Boots are nice for doing delivery quests at the very start
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Reminder to send Noa feedback and ideas if there's anything you think should be added.
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>>50549845
cut it using cutting board into 3x slices of shark
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eh...?
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>>50549856
Specifically, do it in game using the built in feedback tool. Don't be a discordfag
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>>50549866
>Specifically, do it in game using the built in feedback tool.
This.
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>>50549865
>a Panty of baby is considered worth more than a Boomer and a Younger sister
we live in a soscitety
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>>50549822
>>50549788
Honestly, I think there are enough weapons for now. I'd prefer to see some static artifact armour options instead to fill in the other slots.
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>>50549724
I do, and worse, it's permadeath spam. I almost guarantee you that you're getting way more enjoyment out of the game, since I've experienced pretty devastating character losses over the course of last year. At first, I was kind of bitter about people who use mods and cheat, but it really doesn't matter since it's a single player game. Due to it's open-ended nature, there's a multitude of ways to enjoy the game that doesn't involve imposing stupid stakes on yourself. It doesn't really make me any better of a player because I never interact with enemies that are a true threat, let alone interact with DNA and ally modification. That's before how tedious it is to go on a tour to unlock every skill and visit all of the fixed Nefia for Return scroll locations. I say, just go wild and break the game to your heart's content. At least you're having fun instead of experiencing loss.
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Hit rate while on foot: 325%/285% wep 1/wep 2
Hit rate while hosting: 299%/261%
Hit rate while riding+hosting: 281%/246%
Hit rate while only riding: 307%/269%

damn. But having 2 extra health bars as buffers is worth it, but I save scum anyways so it might be better to just yolo?
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>>50549905
You should be riding for the extra speed
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>>50549669
Noa updates small things every few days, it's hard to keep up with a pirated copy.
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>>50549845
Sell it.
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>>50549788
My assault rifle hates everything in the known universe and is my workhorse, dealing three types of damage at the same time. I swap to the Winchester Premium for anything that's especially armored.for the 55% armor penetration. I'm still trying to decide whether to dual wield moon chakrams or go full tank with dual shields as far as melee goes, so for now I have one chakram and one shield.
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>>50549924
where is your vorpal????
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Does black cat have a catgirl sprite? If not does anyone have one
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>>50549947
I use the Cheshire cat sprite, if niggermen are your thing check out the workshop.
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>>50549929
Haven't needed it yet. Centaur gets an innate 25% armor penetration on all ranged attacks and between that, the three damage instances all benefitting from the All Bane, casting Bane/Weakness, my Mirage Beta reliably applying Dim between Insult and Eye of Dimness, and the Seventh Sense buff, nothing has survived a full volley.
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>>50549845
Shark Wine
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>out of MP
>over cast and summon 4 friendly animals
>kill them
>mana full
that eazy
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post your tort- I mean, your training chambers
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>>50550051
Hey man, cool wooden horse.
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>>50549724
I just cheat whatever seems more fun/interesting at this point. Was thinking of using knightly spirit effect from turtle shield with custom AI to force a butt buddy tank pet to follow me around. I know I could just totem pole but I prefer managing smaller parties, and when your entire party is hidden in the totem pole it can feel pretty empty.
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>>50550075
I honestly liked the Elona+ tag teams
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I'm in early midgame and this shit is already this high, how high do you void dwellers have it? 300?
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>>50549724
I never cheat
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>>50549724
Re: recipes, they're not hard, and playing with the sleep recipe multiplier only hobbles you when it comes to actually knowing how the recipe system works. Garbage in, garbage out - sleep is the lowest effort method of acquisition, produces the worst results. Half the complainers about recipes don't even know there are skill thresholds for learning recipes.

Work smarter, not harder.

At the end of the day, might as well just use ykdevtools and console to give yourself all recipes.
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>>50550222
Not that anon but
>they're not hard
I don't think anybody thinks recipes are hard. The sheer amount of home development recipes makes it so that a vast majority of the time you learn something for a feature that most people don't even engage with beyond a basic home for residents and a building for crops.

On my current character I have every crafting skill over level 100 and there's still a fuckton of "core" recipes I haven't learned yet. My strength got high enough for me to steal a BBQ Table long before I ever learned the recipe to make it. My strength got high enough for me to steal snowman generators and I still don't have any generator recipes(aside from the wheel of pain but that's obviously not ideal since it effectively consumes residents.) Hammering isn't practical for a lot of things you'd want to use it for because the objects are rare and it takes like a month for town maps to reset to get another chance.
>well clearly you haven't been playing the game
I've cleared enough nefias to have nearly one thousand mana crystals and I'm pushing toward floor 400 in the Void. I'm doing the "because you have nothing better to do" grind to see numbers go up and I still don't have a lot of basic recipes for crafting stations/items most people would want to have. There's simply no realistic way to target a lot of them without save scumming a wheel.
>Work smarter, not harder.
Intelligence doesn't factor into this at all beyond knowing you need to raise your crafting skill high enough to learn the recipe in the first place but that's wiki knowledge because you have no way of knowing what skill level is needed until after you already learn it.
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>>50550222
Part of it is needing to make/interact with every single crafting station in order for recipes to appear, the other part of it is the sheer amount of floor/block/wall/poster recipes that gum up even wheel-based recipe gain. I'm genuinely learning relevant recipes faster by spending an entire day's stamina at a time crafting a single thing in a category 40+ times.
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>>50550051
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>>50550258
WHY would you need this?
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>>50550260
It levels several different skills at once without any input.
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>>50550251
Hammering is perfectly viable, especially if one sinks two points into dismantler. Something like the bbq table isn't rare if one simply makes notes as to where they spawn and hit them up in passing; given the example given I can think off the top of head three respawning bbq locations. Generators are in every town in stacks.

Ehekatl pillow increases the skill threshold, wheel shrine prioritises recipes one doesn't have yet. Then there's not mentioning the cooking recipe acquisition per level, which most people waste anyway since they just spam bread or slicing fish because they blindly follow some guide that tells them it's the best way to do things.

Work smarter, not harder. In a game that's mostly knowledge checks people just won't experiment, be curious or try different approaches. The tools are there but people just won't use them or make excuses for why it can't be done. Sure, brute force it with 5x sleep recipes, but then nothing about the game systems is learned.

>>50550255
Which is a fair criticism. At the start, essential recipes are provided by default or for gold bars. It can take a bit to clear out all the "useless" recipes even with wheel shrines prioritising those you don't already know.

I think part of the problem is people not thinking of it as a low level constant activity. A bunch of my early game is spent doing a variety of tasks in an organic way, or spending extra karma to hammer things on the side while passing by. Mining? That's block recipes. Digging up sand for glass? Floor recipes. Cook? That's one guaranteed recipe per level. Craft anything? Chance to learn in the same category.

I think part of the problem is that many of the guides focus on autistic repetition of a single task, while the systems expect that a player do a bit of everything. Like my previous example of slicing fish, all the skill up recipes only go to the slice of fish. Or training crafting by hammering chips gives no recipes, or training any skill by only crafting one thing. That leads to a huge number of learned recipes being dupes and not the variety of stuff expected. Having hundreds of skill is spotty if that skill was gained crafting the same couple of things.

Hammering things in passing is something that should be done more. Even if it's just a poster, it means one less option for the wheel shrine to draw from. Dismantler is overlooked early game. These days I keep wheel shrines around so I can get the latest toys noa releases on nightly.
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Why is early game piety so scuffed?
>Steal shrine of ehekatl b/c it's the only one that doesn't throw my back out
>Have to gamba numerous offerings hoping to convert it to the deity of my choice
Is there a cleaner way of doing this? Or does noa actually intend for players to make periodic pilgrimages to fixed shrines for offerings?
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Retarded post and an unrelated image of an almost naked woman...
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>>50549788
random 1h axe that I put flurry rune on
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Has anyone beaten her legitimately?
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>>50549856
I did but the vampire NPCs still aren't fixed
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>>50550403
The better your offering the higher the conversion chance irc
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>>50550478
isn't it backer stuff?
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>>50550482
Then the backer is retarded if he wants vampires to turn into bats even with 20 fire resist
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I need more weightlifting
and more wagons
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You should double down with lunchbox and free range ADAM right?
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*sigh*
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>>50550598
>hate
what did you do?
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>>50550603
gave her rights
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>>50550603
she's falling behind and cant keep up with the rest of party since she's constantly drawing aggro and rushing in to get instagibbed
She's been dealing the finishing blow with her scythe for like 90000 damage on bosses but that's all she's good for. might just give her double shields at this point.
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>>50550477
Not worth doing
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>>50550626
>It heralds the end
what does it do?
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>>50550632
Lets Ragnarok!
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>>50549856
>>50549866
I can't because I play on stable and noa thinks my opinion doesn't count.
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>>50550647
Based Noa
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>>50550477
no
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>>50550636
That's in the game?
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>>50550617
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nVEk_v4H6rE
Your overweight sister can protect her.
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>>50550671
where does one find this imouto
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>>50550720
1/20 chance of replacing the normal spawn I think.
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>>50550671
she feels like using a cheatmod
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>>50550477
Should I feed her 5000 dystopia foods to make her fightable with my 300 str?
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>>50550357
>Hammering is perfectly viable
Incorrect for reasons stated.
>Ehekatl pillow increases the skill threshold
The skill threshold isn't the main issue and it doesn't eliminate it completely. You're still going to learn something related to decoration 90% of the time.
>Work smarter, not harder.
Repeating yourself doesn't make your invalid argument any less valid and don't think I didn't notice you dodging. There's nothing "smart" about having a wiki tab open.

Be less retarded. Concession accepted.
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>>50550720
Pursuers have 1/20 chance to summon them if they don't have a ygo or an imo as summon. You only need reboot and wall of flesh though so gene engineering is also an option. Invulnerable wall of flesh works best with low speed pet.
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>>50550858
>Hammer
Your stated reasons are bullshit. All of your examples are plentiful and there are feats to identify and increase the chances of learning hammered items. One bbq table in palmia, another in port kapul and another in quiet beach. 10 generators in palmia generator room and fortune bell generator room.

That you're an incurious retard with no object permanence isn't the game's fault.

>Muh rng
Work on crafting a variety of things and using multiple avenues to selectively learn recipes in the same category instead of baking copper dust pizza and smashing casino chip. Cooking stewed veggies doesn't give posters.

Go outside and mine to get all those block recipes so they won't show up when a wheel shrine pops up.

>work smarter, not harder
Getting to 100 crafting skills and not having basic recipes proves my point, you don't know jack about how the recipe acquisition system works if you're bleating about "muh poster".

Go smash more casino chips and don't forget the uncap xp mod while at it.
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>>50550891
you are not gene engineering wall of flesh 5 / spiky 5 which y'imo have, gene engineering would only give wof 1, and slots are precious
also I have no clue what you mean by your last sentence
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just get wall of flesh on king hermit crab
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>>50550251
>a feature that most people don't even engage with
If you don't engage with the base building, why would you care about which recipes you get? The recipe system is for making shit for your home. You build your home to craft, you craft to build your home. For that matter, where are you getting that shit take from anyway, that most people don't do home building? That's a major aspect of the game.
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>>50550979
nta but playing as vampire I still didn't get the gay blood recipe from wheels halfway through year 4
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>>50550858
I bumrushed Blacksmith 50 ASAP after getting Vernis still waiting on that big fridge 2 years later.
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>>50550979
>If you don't engage with the base building, why would you care about which recipes you get?
What a profoundly retarded question. Yes, why would people care about food recipes or crafting station recipes or any of the numerous things tied directly to character progression? It is a mystery.
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>>50550983
If you mean the blood elixir recipe, that's alchemy 20.

A thing to remember about wheel shrines is that they prioritise recipes you don't have but qualify for. The more random bullshit recipes you get from chests, sleep, hammering, crafting discovery etc, the smaller the pool of stuff it can draw from becomes and the more likely you get what you want.

Saying that wheels aren't putting out is an admission of not keeping up.
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>>50551020
Absolute retard doesn't understand basic math. Raise your blacksmithing a few levels and the pool of available new recipes increases by five or so. Raise your crafting a few levels and the pool of available new recipes increases by several dozen. Uh oh! The wheel pool is diluted. Clearly you should've spent several hours tanking your karma into the negatives dismantling an entire town(which reduces your chance of finding statues and shrines by the way) or stripping nefias bare even though you aren't strongly incentivized to do this until several dozen hours into a character when you start getting valuable crafting materials from walls.
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>>50551020
yeah and the random bullshit pool gets bigger with like every stable update because lmao we need like 50 candy blocks
I know it's hard to imagine but some people don't want to grind every single crafting skill to 50 and hammer everything in sight for recipes they don't want just to get a feasible chance of getting useful ones from shrine of wheel
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ITT cheaters making excuses trying to justify their cheat mods.
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>unbiased discussion about faults of the game is somehow attempting to justify the supposed use of supposed cheat mods
The mental gymnastics some people resort to when backed into a corner. Pathetic.
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Someone explain what determines how long PC sleeps. Does not seem to be stamina based? is it random?
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>>50551066
Do not question miyazaki's golden vision for he is above man and can make no mistakes, I suffered through the vision and now everyone else must too lest my labor be in vain
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>>50551085
Tiredness and Stamina remaining iirc
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I just loaded up a save from a few months ago and all my undead imoto are on fire. How can I prevent this? The one in my party is super strong and still doing okay but the ones at home are not faring so well.
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>>50551066
Not to mention wheel shrines pull from +15 crafting levels so it pretty much catches the majority of recipes even if you're not invested in other crafts.
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>cheaters when they have to grind in a grinding game
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>>50551126
I actually didn't realise till reading your post, they must have gotten the vampire innate that burns in the sun. I don't play that meme class but I assume standard preventative measures work (i.e get out of the fuckin sun)
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>>50551085
I assumed it was stamina but there have been times where I sleep before reaching zero and I get 10-12 hours of sleep and then I go several hundred negative and I still only sleep for 12 hours.

I don't think there's any real system to it yet or if there is it's obfuscated by RNG. Hell I can't even figure out how HP/MP restoration from sleep works let alone the sleep duration.
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>>50550913
Wall of flesh works with invulnerable condition from reboot. Since wall of flesh pet redirects damage from their allies to themselves, it makes your team immortal in the invulnerable duration. The invulnerable duration only lasts until the pet that has it takes their next turn so you want that pet to be slow as possible. Reviving the pet resets the reboot cd. Popular strat in Japanese community, bell can't even compare.
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>>50550913
Wait, it's not enough to have a regular Y'golonac? The younger sister version is just better?
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>>50551126
If the screams of ill-fated children being set on fire for simply existing at the wrong time of day gets to you there's "Undead Younger Sister Sunscreen" - https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3616940626
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>>50551147
Unfortunately they like wandering outside.
I guess I could put them in the indoor livestock pen.
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I'm starting to think Kizuami is the real meta since it's pretty easy to make companions scale far harder than players due to how broken gene engineering is and their naturally faster growth.
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I found a rubynus hammer and decided to do some tests to see what I could hammer to improve my home instead of gear. I guess Innos Statue it is, again. Until I can craft one out of 20+ Item quality meat to replace it.
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>>50551248
I would easily believe it. Last time I played around with Kizuami it looked like his damage reduction bonus stacked additively with ghost race damage reduction resulting in nigh unkillable pets ezpz
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>>50551265
That would be disgustingly broken if true. Additive damage reduction always ends up being problematic for balancing.
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>>50551278
Does Noa even care about balance
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>>50550112
literally how? The only way I can consistently train it is buy doing work while in very negative stamina.
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>>50551455
5x exp multiplier mod
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>>50551483
Oh...
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>>50551298
Only in terms of money grinding
The blueberry economy WILL collapse eventually.
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>>50551500
Are blueberries the best crop to grow? Ive kind of just went for a variety of crops but im kind of starting to realize that there really isnt much benefit in growing crops that consume a lot of fertility.

Why blueberries over mushrooms though?
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>>50550112
This is me in year 492
cheaterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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>>50551529
fucking layers
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>>50551529
What is the void thing in the depth reached? Also, i've been doing two-handed. Is dual wielding better?
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>>50551538
NorthEast of Palmia there is a dungeon called the Void. It goes down infinitely, you need to shell out like 200k to get the license to access it from the Embassy.
Beating the first boss in the void (every 5 floors) will change enemy generation in your world, so everything will be start being scaled with fame, this can fuck you over really badly, but you can turn it off from world laws.
no, dual wielding is shit and not reliable until really high level. You will be missing all of your attacks until you get to 120 ish
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>>50551572
ah ok, good to know thanks. I kinda thought fame already did that desu, i am seeing stronger enemies out in the world already.
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>>50551538
Melee in general is kind of in a weird scenario. Two-handed has the best accuracy and damage per individual swing, but leaves you the most open to getting parried and countered. Dual Wielding takes forever and a half to not have dogshit accuracy but give you the most swings, and Short Swords and Martial Arts have access to both multiple attacks and some of the parry/counter options. Shield has the worst overall DPS but Shield Bash guaranteed interrupts all the parry/counter bullshit and the feat for ranks in Tactics can eventually make you into a parry god.
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>>50551572
Void scaling after first boss was removed like a year ago, unless it was added back in.
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>>50551596
I would have went with a shield but I hate how badly it fucks with your spell casting. Ive only now started putting feats into heavy casting cause even now with only heavy armor on i fail too many spell casts for my liking.
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>>50551604
was it ? I didn't read every patch note, so I guess half of what I said is BS. What's the blessing of void then?
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>>50551455
I reckon you could train it pretty well if you could get like,4+ Mithra type enemies wailing on you (ideally 8 but unless there's a persistent dungeon floor that can spawn them I don't think that's feasible.

Scarab shots don't seem to do the business.
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>>50551633
I believe it needs to actually damage you for it to train. Which is why I only start seeing xp ticks come in for it once i am getting fucked up by low fatigue hits at like -30 stamina. Thankfully I have party members healing me so i can reach about -120 before it starts getting dangerous and the healing cant keep up fast enough. Still slow leveling but the fastest way ive found so far.
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>>50550477
IIRC Nips cheesed her by gifting her anti-magic gear so she couldn't cast anything.
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>>50551572
only shit in nefias above lv200 is scaled but you don't need void license for it
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>>50548613
Believe it or not I actually can't find it anymore.
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>>50551856 (Me)
And as soon as I posted it I found it
https://elonaup.x0.com/50.html?1734785719
Up15392, my computer says that its corrupted so it can't show the Japanese characters and I'm wondering if the file is actually corrupted or if its something on my end.
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Does this stack? If multiple allies have this feat from Eureka?
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>>50552123
yes it stacks
makes your party a bunch of killers, Eureka+Militant slap
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>>50550647
it doesn't, stablecuck
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>>50551536
Since this post I had been leaving my character drowning/driving in a cart around my mob farm. these are the stats after 1 in game month, which took like 2 hours.
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>>50551455
Get a competent healer that is also good at attacking, they won't consume stamina when attacking you so you'll only have to stop every once in a while so they don't run out of mana. Also make yourself as slow as possible so they get more turns and it goes faster.
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>>50552180
so either i'm doing something wrong or all the fags posting insane gains in short time running on track had been using cheat mods, which begs the question why even do that when you can just up the multiplier or cheat the stats up
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>>50551483
You fucking retard.
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>>50552180
>Dex went down
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>>50552221
it's most likely because he has eureka or something
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>>50552180
this levels strength??
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>>50552218
This is precisely why I am against cheatmod fags being part of any discussion
Any discussion about game balance or difficulty will just be undercut by them as they never faced challenge nor had to trial/error.
We literally cannot have a discussion on even grounds if one faggot is on 5x exp 10x recipe 20x spell stock on sleep going through void 500000 talking shit about how it's so easy while I'm getting raped in Depth 300 nefias.
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>>50552281
The issue is that some『Absolute retard』immediately jumps to the conclusion that fucking everything he sees is cheating, maybe you're just playing the game wrong?
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>>50552268
I made sure to pump up weightlifting potential and burdened! myself before driving. I'm not sure if I should be doing this at low speed / overcrowded or very high speed while mounted. I guess if people dont want to save time and taxes it's probably better to do this with 20 speed
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>>50552295
But you CANT get to that level in just a few fucking days. I couldn't reach that in ten in game years? How often are you even being hit? In my first few years I was just doing farming up to -100 stamina and it barely leveled up.
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>>50552315
I hanged myself to powerlevel my pets. It's not magic. I'm almost 700 days in.
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>>50552346
Also, Two handed and Dual wielding are at the same level because I switched to dual wielding 40 hours ago.
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>>50551874
If you're asking about the folder itself, I see all the names with zero issues.
妖術のヴェフメット.god, 諸宗派の寺院.eum, ect.
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>>50552346
so what did you do, just hang yourself, f5, on repeat for a year? that's so fucking dumb, turning this into some autobattler gacha trash
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And the goalpost is moved.
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>You just have to NOT play the game, easy!
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>>50552421
He should've just kept calling everyone a cheater instead of complaining about the game being played normally.
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>>50552383
Huh, so there's something wrong with the language/region on my end, thanks.
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>giving the stupid faggot who doesn't play the game and just camps the thread for some autistic reason to drop shitty one-liners any attention
lmao
o
lmao
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>>50552448
How dare you talk about Super Cub anon that way...
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If i hang self I lose all my stamina in liek 10 seconds since my entire town fucks me up. Exp wise, it should be about the same as doing it 1v1 in a box since all stamina was used up?
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>>50552438
I thought this was some old mspaint meme from the thumbnail, it's already a classic
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>>50552468
I don't think so, it smells like a Seeking, fuck yeah kind of meme.
Why would anyone care if you cheat in a single player game? Why would you care even more if the person is purposefully posting on here to antagonize you?
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>>50552477
why are you here in this thread if its a single player game? why not just stay in your room and do not communicate with anyone? does your autistic ass not realize why one might care about this?
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>>50552462
Don't hang yourself in the middle of the fucking town then? I learned this shit like 12 hours into the game when I bought the game after release. You should also bother getting a fucking good healer pet asap.
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Modding should be used to add new content such as Kiria's quest or new sprites, or to add actual QoL like equipment compare. Not the outright cheating shit most of you add. You didn't play the game.
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>>50552495
>why are you here in this thread if its a single player game?
To talk to other anon's playing the game.
>why not just stay in your room and do not communicate with anyone?
I could but why do I have too?
>does your autistic ass not realize why one might care about this?
No, because if you did you'd also be complaining about mods. If someone wants to cheat, let them, if someone doesn't want to cheat, let them. The general is big enough for both.
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I'm tired of this retarded crossboarding cheat schizo retard.
Next you will say "you didn't beat the game".
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>>50552152
Speaking of party setup, I'm torn on whether to stay at 3 party members or add a fourth, and if the latter, which to add. Since the bike will eventually hit the str needed to give me 500 speed, 20% extra speed from 4 empty slots will still get me at over 600. As is, the party is:
>Myself as a gunner who supplies Bane, Gravity, Holy Shield and Weakness
>Fox Maid tank who has Hero, Gorefest, Cure Critical Wound, and Earthquake
>Mirage Beta gunner who has Light/Sound/Mind/Chaos Funnel, Eye of Dimness, Insult and Gravity
>Kaneda Bike gunner mount who will likely eventually provide a Miasma spell to handle enemies that split but right now is just speed and gunfire

Genuinely unsure whether I distinctly need anything. Yeah I know eventually 8 party members is ideal but I'd rather stick to 3-4.
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>>50552477
I could understand if the integrity of the game was important but noa has added world laws and modding, and the game format is open world do-whatever-the-fuck-you-want. Most people already played a fucking modded version of elona in the first place.
The insistence on competitive environment is fucked, maybe it's the modern gamer mindset I remember people getting self-conscious about days elapsed near launch and seething about seven league boots.
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>>50552507
>To talk to other anon's playing the game.
And other anon's experience with the game is completely different from yours, thus
>>does your autistic ass not realize why one might care about this?
>No, because if you did you'd also be complaining about mods
? what ? are you retarded?
There is a vast, VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAST difference between portrait/missions/boss mods vs outright exp multipiliers , cheats , OP gear shops.
You are getting so defensive over this because you have been using cheat mods, so you don't give a fuck if others do.
We literally never had been playing the same game; what you beat easily with your cheats, others found challenging or had to find workarounds. There is zero connection; we cannot discuss the game.
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It just does not feel right to answer the "leveling XYZ is so grueling and boring" with "just turn up the multipliers in world law"
that's stupid. defeats the point of the experiencing the game same as others
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Before you retards continue your pointless back and forth, post character sheet or kill yourself in the spot.
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Im going to have a party of 8 dagons so I never get a turn
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>>50552535
Exactly, both games emphasized freedom, whether its Elona, Elona+, and now Elin, all games basically gave you a sandbox and said "Now what?" to the player. If you want to cheat, sure go ahead. If you want to not cheat or do some sort of permadeath, nuzlocke run; go ahead. The game is yours to make and mold as you see. Don't like a backer waifu or a race? Delete it. Don't like a specific NPC? Hamburger them over and over again or torture them. Want to marry a horse or a bike? Sounds good to me!
The game practically begs with you to engage with it on your own level.
>>50552537
Are you afraid of asking for advice or about something only to find out that the Anon either cheated or, for whatever reason, kept that he cheated from you? I don't get this mindset.
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>>50552561
Can I post my E+ character sheet? It's very mundane
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>>50552574
>Are you afraid of asking for advice or about something only to find out that the Anon either cheated or, for whatever reason, kept that he cheated from you? I don't get this mindset.
I'd rather believe he's concern trolling than him being an actually mentally ill hysteric bitch.
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>>50552574
>only to find out that the Anon either cheated or, for whatever reason, kept that he cheated
honesty and integrity are an unknown concept in current decade I fucking know
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Female behavior.
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>Shoot Panzerfaust
>2 damage
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>>50551011
>crafting station recipes
crafting stations for the base that you're not building. Why not just use store bought food? You also have the option to just pickpocket or buy some crafting stations. Either way, I think it's pretty stupid to cry that the game isn't designed around you to ignore half the game.
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>>50552590
I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt because he obviously cares about the integrity of the game, despite you going out of your way to antagonize him. I just think his argument falls flat when you take into account the numerous ways to play Elona alone.
A snail pianist is going to have a much harder time clearing Lesimas than say, A Yerles Gunner build or an Elea Mage who could potentially solo the first 16 levels on their own, while charisma builds need to get allies and build them up or spend a lot more time grinding their own skills to then have the ability to do the first act. No one is going to have a 1:1 experience because of the class and race they choose alone in Elona unless its of the same category. Someone who plays a Juere Thief and someone who plays a Yerles Farmer are going to have a much more similar experience of the game than a Dwarf Warrior who is basically class locked into their build at Act 1.
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That does it, I'm going to install one of the xiaxia alchemy mods and cripple myself before the young master until I have 1000000 str.
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>>50552594
True, but if someone lies /jp/ is it really the end of the world? Will the thread all of a sudden disintegrate and fall apart the moment you find out someone has cheated? Come on... Chances are, the people who are cheating will long give up the game and throw it aside than the people who aren't. The moment that Noa's drip feed for content starts to slow down many of these anon's will move on. You need to think on a longer time scale with these things.
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Being this unnecessarily paranoid is not healthy. Book a psychologist or something.
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>>50552652
Even with all those classes, there will be a convergence point no? I really dont see why a warrior will not be able to gain stats as easily as a succubus or a vampire; we all have to cook and are gated by the same daily food intake limit and stamina. Yeah the game is a hellish nightmare for a warrior while a cakewalk for a mage, but even then? I don't know.
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>>50552684
>convergence point
lol
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>>50552683
pretty sure (((psychologists))) are the reason why these events happen in the first place
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autists need to realize theres a big fucking difference between doubling nefia drops and ally feat xp because you don't want to grind 3400 hours once the initial phase is over in a 200+ hour playthrough
and that fat faggot who shit on <game> because I BEATED IT WITH MY GAME GENIE ITS TOO EASY
me getting the more info mod and tweaking it so i dont have to write down enemy resists in a fucking text doc isn't cheating
it's just doing shit non-retardedly
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I boughted
I cheated
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Nobody will ever fall for that. Go back.
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also disregard any shitsmear zoomer that types like a frogfaggot or a discord tranny
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The melty is supposed to happen at the bump limit...not now... please Anons, conduct yourselves in a civilized manner until the moment is ripe.
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Too dumb for this. How many healers do I need for a proper gallows room? and is there a screenshot I can look at as an example?
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>>50552684
Convergence will happen but if you notice, convergence is change/time, and some people don't know or don't want to invest another 300 hours so their Warrior can, I don't know, shoot a gun or be good at farming. Sure, there are people who do that and enjoy that, but there are also people who get 200+ hours into the game and are like "ffs, I just want to finish this grindy piece of shit." Which is why Elona had races that progress faster and are more flexible than others. Someone just wants to make a Norland Warrior, blow through the game, find a rare drop bow, switch to using bows and beat the main story in under 200 hours. Which is fine, that's the whole point of the game and partly the whole point of race and class in the game.
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Why don't we get more info about this guy? It's always Grandma this and Grandma that. I don't have a GILF fetish and kind of hate it.
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>>50552775
All written by one retarded fucking backer that is why.
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>>50552779
STROP HAVING A HMELTY THE BACKERS ARE NORMA L PLAYERS AND ARENT TRYING TO TAKE OVER LIKE WEIRD TROON CIRCLEJERK YOU WEIRDO AUTISMO
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>>50552794
It's hard to take control over something you already have intimate power over
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>>50552794
given the main moderator is a tranny, I find it doubtful. He's also a moderator in one of the other indie game discords I had been following, they REALLY are everywhere trying to grab as much power as they can. So yes, it's perfectly okay to be cautious.
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>>50552804
before you ask, it's Barotrauma.
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>>50552754
>"ffs, I just want to finish this grindy piece of shit."
NTA, but if you don't enjoy the game, why play it?
Void-scaled enemies are basically the same with extra stats. You can already fight all the yith and dragons at level 50 and you can push further, if you want. But you don't have to.
You don't have to rush high tier food, high level farming or anything really.
It's a sandbox.
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>>50552814
Why would I play Barotrauma over something like SS13/14?
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There are some kind of temp files that are clogging up my disk space when playing, it's probably a log but I cannot find it even with space sniffer
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>>50549187
Well since the thread is on-fire right now might as well drop this. I started reading the essay on Mesherada and I already have a nitpick. Shout-out to Kirianon who dropped it for me, or at least I think that is who dropped it.
>and other stuff like “prostitutes out on the streets [of Derphy] everywhere"
It's kinda true, I have the same problem right now in Elona+ where I try to talk to the innkeeper and he is either fucking a prostitute, asleep, or paralyzed by just having sex with a prostitute. Maybe Sseth never got the whistle or the whistle wasn't added in the version he was playing in, but at least if the innkeeper is asleep you can use the whistle to wake them up.
Another interesting thing I didn't know but find kinda funny is that the prostitutes of Derphy are actually classified as the guards, they will never act like the guards but I just found that funny.
Also, I feel like Sseth isn't fully to blame for people confusing Elona and Elona+ because he links an Elona+ and I think he briefly glosses over the fact that it is E+ at the beginning but my memory could be wrong on that.
>Open World Insemination
Ahh, I see how people got the idea it was an H game though, that is a misleading title but he does mention its Elona+ in the first minute of the review despite calling it "Elona" in the title.
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>>50552838
That's a lot different of an image than I thought of Quruiza. I always thought she was my derpy little Warmage wife that gets drunk while I paracitize her and kills herself because I forgot to feed her.
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>>50552894
That's Elona Quruiza
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>>50552838
Id rape Lulwy
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>>50552838
God, elona had so much soul.
Elin is great, but the taint of the modern westtard infesting it and the backer garbage and just the general town building shit man....

Elona was so good. What a flash in the pan it was. Really glad I was on prehistoric /v/ to enjoy the ancient, ancient elona threads....
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>>50552838
I can fix her. Or at the very least, brush her hair like a proper nii-san.
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speaking of Elona, I miss my autistically customized character.bmp
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>>50552918
Genuinely, what the fuck are you talking about? Can you actually post examples of what you mean by "westtard infestation" or are you just upset that the game is being played by slightly more people outside of its initial audience? Because I've seen you bitching about this for like three threads now and have yet to actually post anything about what the fuck is so wrong and so terrible.
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>>50552838
I never said that it was me, more its people who start playing the game and maybe didn't realize how much of a grind that came could potentially be. There are different video game genres for a reason, I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here just that some people don't want to grind and that's okay.
ALso is that an Elona picture or a ELin picture?
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>>50552838
Excuse me, sir?
What the fuck is a Naimune?
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>>50552937
Ignore him, he just doesn't like the backers who added shit in the game and he isn't patient enough to wait for an "all back content removed" mod for whatever reason.
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>>50552951
ELONE, when?
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Eternal league of nefia? what's that?
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>>50552934
I thought about modding my Elona playthrough, but I decided to keep it vanilla, run through it, then basically ask if there's a reason I should go back and play again.
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>>50552934
why have you _STILL_ not shared this?
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>>50552934
Speaking of modding Elona I actually still have my sound edit pack so you don't get ear raped when you play it. I don't know really where to stick it or if people even want it since its 35MB
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>>50552966
They don't really talk about the League that much but that's the guild you and all other Adventurers are apart of that explore the Nefia. In Elona they aren't even a focus on the story and most people use them to identify items until they are strong enough to do it themselves then they never do it again lol.
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>>50552978
im still using the trusty old dark souls 1 sound replacer pack lol, its great for the menu sounds alone. jesus checking my elona+ folder, its gigantic for such a game
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>>50552978
If it's been updated since then you could throw it on something like catbox. I still have the original upload you did but I keep forgetting to use it on the new E+ version...
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>>50552989
wtf mine is only 280 mb
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>>50552957
It's kinda unreal to me because the most extensive backer stuff is just kitsunes, which every other Japanese game has anyway.
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>>50552934
The one good thing about Elin over Elona+ is that I don't need to fucking remake this thing every time Ano adds a sprite.
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>>50552989
Want to show us a sound demo?
>Elona 2.25R
That's a very old Elona+ game, have you thought about updating to 2.30 or would that break the mods?
>>50552997
I haven't bothered to update it, there's a couple sounds that are a bit soft but I haven't had the time to write them down and kick them slightly up yet.
>I still have the original upload you did but I keep forgetting to use it on the new E+ version...
LMFAO, fucking oof, well you do you anon since I did it I had to reapply the music edits twice because of E+ and ECGX both updating over the xmas break.
>>50553040
He's almost always in a bad mood and almost always complaining about the same things there really isn't much you can do to help him unless we start some sort of /jp/ mod initiative to remove all backer content so he would stfu.
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>>50553055
im not interested in further development from Ano towards my current Elona+ install. ive had many years of updates and content and I think further balance changes nerfs, buffs, new content, etc, are unnecessary. iirc, 2.25R was from the middle of 2025, so its not thaaaat old.
ill record something for the sound demo
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>>50552838
Ridley on the eternal garden when.
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I don't know how true this is considering I had a horse that was valued at 42k but instead of selling it to Derphy, I gave it to Raphael.
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>>50553055
>remove all backer content
I will never understand puritan faggots. Does a retarded OC donnut steel really bother "him" that much?
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I don't actually mind around 80% of the backer content, however.
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>>50553040
it could have been so so much worse. most of the backer stuff is fine. the foxes are nice. where they came from is not relevant, nothing of that is in the game. the worst thing we got is a few somewhat cringe adventures you barely even see. every time i see people having a melty over it i can only think of how many bullets we dodged with what we got.
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For example, Kiria is tastefully implanted into the game, and works well because 'Mani machine bullshit'.
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>>50553107
>people
I wouldn't call just one(1) rogue /v/ermin "people".
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>new player streaming picks winter start instead of cave or standard start
Snow-bros just can't stop winning
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I took a nap and missed a melty but anon is right about leveling skills being complete garbage. Sitting in the base hitting a training dummy or hanging yourself is somehow better than real combat experience?
Also there's like 0 incentive to raise them when 2 gear drops can boost the skill past hundred of hours you would have to level it
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>>50553172
And it only is an issue with melee as always since training magic is retarded easy.
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>>50552838
Nocl and Ridley are qt
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Additionally, if that is your definition of a 'melty', I hate to break it to you, pal.
Let's note that just despite us getting 'foxes' it introduced their shitty new gods into the pantheon, which was already PERFECT as-is. Yevan, I can tolerate, but did we really need two new fox gods? Seriously? I guess you're just Elin secondaries, so that would make sense, after all.

There we go. Now that's more of a melty.
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>>50553187
>Nocl
Noel and she is a psychopath that everyone is afraid of
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>>50553194
The fox gods barely impact the world though other than their shrines being in their corresponding villages.
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Stop replying to "it"
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>>50553197
I literally never heard of her or is she just the witch cucked by Elin
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>>50553211
What. Is. It?
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>>50553161
It's not bad at all since you aren't going to get a farm going before winter ends unless you are a farmer.
On a unrelated note farms on snow fields might be better for delegated farming because they count as permanently watered.
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>>50553194
>but did we really need two new fox gods? Seriously?
One of the fox sluts lets me headpat cute girls. So yes, we need them.
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>>50553238
>because they count as permanently watered
wait what
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>>50552574
>E+
>Emphasising freedom

Did we play the same game, anon? We are talking about the retard who removed the ability to quickload, right? Or docked your platinum because he felt you were hoarding? Or denied you experience because you just wanted to run around and do your own thing and not play his retarded fanfiction?

The guy who will automatically force you to invest because he thinks you're being stingy and that selling items to a shop to get you money back is robbing them?

Oh yes, last patch he added a whole bunch of high level monsters into towns. So better play his story and level up or get eaten by a wandering bear in town!
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>>50553194
Go back and kill yourself out of these threads already you retarded tourist.
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>>50553264
Just throw salt bro they're probably a snail on their Permadeath run for DIscord clout.
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>>50553246
According to the d*scordfags, if you leave the crop tiles snowed it counts as watered, effectively halving the time it needs.
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>>50553229
You've never heard of Noel the Bomber?
>>50553256
>We are talking about the retard who removed the ability to quickload, right?
Meta QoL, bad change but we are talking about the game mechanically.
>Or docked your platinum because he felt you were hoarding?
Never heard that before, explain. It's not like plat is hard to get.
>Or denied you experience because you just wanted to run around and do your own thing and not play his retarded fanfiction?
Are we talking about actual EXP points or him just being a retard towards other people?
>Oh yes, last patch he added a whole bunch of high level monsters into towns. So better play his story and level up or get eaten by a wandering bear in town!
I'm playing his current build and that hasn't even remotely happened unless its a timer or something. Btw I have 250-ish hours still in act 1.
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>>50553107
Imagine having a melty over some portraits in the adventurer list. I think dude is just hyperautistic and wants a totally different game, but doesn't have what it takes to just make said game himself.
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>Ano apologist
now I've seen everything
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I think we'd benefit from MORE gods outside the main pantheon to worship desu
Negentropy gods, local gods of buttfuck isolated cultures, entities that're worshipped AS gods but aren't, the lot.
Where are my rot-based Insect Gods and Yeek Gods, Noa?
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>>50553307
This
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>>50552966
It's the covenant between the gods after their second war to not get involved directly in the world. A non aggression pact.

You can read mentions of it in Yevan and Kizuami's books, the latter was caught circumventing it and placed under house arrest for a while.

>>50552988
You're not a backer, "I made it the fuck up" is not a valid source for you.
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what a "pest"
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>>50553194
>would be fine with 1 fox god because it was from a jp backer, but two fox gods? no way, not because two, but because westoid CoC guy made it.
You don't even know which fox god came from which backer, do you?
>>50553318
Bit of advice faggot. Not because I think the way you're typing is wrong, but because it's extremely identifiable. Stop the double spacing.
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>>50553300
I'm not a apologist, I'm just not hyperventilating about changes to a free game that a small amount of people still play, and pointing out where he is wrong.
>>50553307
There are supposed to be tons of Gods big and small, allegedly. The only thing I don't like about the Kitsune Gods is that the "popular one" outside the foxfolk are mainly worshipped by the foxes that don't like humans.
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>>50553328
This anon is the guy you probably don't want playing Among Us or Town of Salem with.
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Nobody was this butthurt over Yacatect or any of the omake gods like Danalin and in fact Yacatect always had tons of waifu posting, so new gods suddenly being a problem sticks out.
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>>50553318
It's the name of the guild because in the mobile game you can take Covenant Oaths from NPCS like Loyter or Xabi to finish dungeons in a certain way.
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>>50553362
>so new gods suddenly being a problem sticks out.
It's just the new wave of retards.
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>>50553288
>You've never heard of Noel the Bomber?
You sure that's her, designs seem completely different
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>>50553307
>Hunter/Beastmaster god, gives you some cool wolf apostle and a crossbow artifact.
>A pure caster god that isn't Itzpalt, maybe a more offensive one since Itzpalt's bonuses are mainly resists.
>A god for basebuilding, with bonuses to tourism, crafting and stuff (I feel Elin might become this)
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>>50553362
I miss Yacatect...
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>>50553307
At least one god for every weapon type would be cool
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>>50553380
I'm not sure anymore either, its hard to read the font against the background, it could be a C or an E at this point.
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>>50553387
Could always mod her in.
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Speaking of gods, i was intrigued at how the backers justified their creation by mentioning what combat role they fulfilled. If noa would include any God you create, what niche would you fill? Are there any roles left to fill even?
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>>50553399
You mistake me for someone who has talent, which is nice.
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>>50553385
>A pure caster god that isn't Itzpalt, maybe a more offensive one since Itzpalt's bonuses are mainly resists.
I'd like it just because I don't wanna worship a dude.
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>>50553403
Martial arts.
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>>50553403
idk, we have lovecraftian shit, why not add like some abyssal gods? dark eldritch loli waifu with tentacles? she secretly has a thing for Opatos
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>>50553403
I think backer gods should have been minor gods under one of the pillars but that's just me.
As for adding any God, besides Yacatect, I'm kinda happy with the Pantheon as it is.
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>>50553403
Axe god that boosts your stats when your close to death so it's perfect for wraiths or execs
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>>50553416
I'm pretty sure canonically they ARE minor gods, but I don't think there's an explicit hierarchy where they serve the pillars.
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>>50553403
Yakasha
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>>50553403
We already have a Mani, but having a very powerful mage that is secretly skimming the divinity of another god and being an "imposter god" that is running a scam under the real god's noses might be an interesting short story quest line or something
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>>50553411
The little girl goddess.
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>>50553429
Alice...
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damn this thread has gotten a lot more hostile since i last came here..

>>50553055
sorry anon, here is a sound demo, I recorded a little vid for u https://files.catbox.moe/l8a4b0.mp4
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>>50553403
I wouldn't mind a proper death-themed god that made use of nether magic and martial arts weapons and made them into something properly worthwhile, especially with all the nether-resisting enemies.
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>>50553406
Legitimately takes little to no talent
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>>50553474
>https://files.catbox.moe/l8a4b0.mp4
That's actually really cool, I like how much more readable your inventory is than the default, I might play with the available font packs they have later.
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>>50553403
I mean, there is room for a bunch more slow life gods. Not saying it, but the existence of E+ Yacatect, Omake Inari and mobile Cordelia highlight the obvious god of wealth hole.
Danalin is also genuinely original. Elin looks to be a slow life utility with a big cooking bonus, and Yakasha's current bonuses are shaping her out to be an Itz clone with different elements.
Most of the modded gods I've tried have been op sparklewolf oc shit.
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>>50552934
When will the etriams be added to Elin?
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>>50553554
>big cooking bonus
doesn't Jure already have that
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>>50552643
>crafting stations for the base that you're not building.
Why did you respond by recycling your profoundly retarded question into a profoundly retarded statement? There is a huge difference between a crafting station directly related to character progression and decorative block #487.
>Either way, I think it's pretty stupid to cry that the game isn't designed around you to ignore half the game.
And you top it off with a fallacy. You are genuinely stupid.
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>>50553403
Mani but for Animals. Chance to turn any attacking Animal into an ally like Mani, but also boosts Taming, Riding, Farming, Cooking and Fishing, emphasizing the hunting, catching, and use of all parts of the animal. Maybe some other skills/attributes too but I'm not sure yet.

Their faction apostle is a German Shepherd or similar big dog (or doggirl) who gives the party passive Telepathy/See Invisible via its sense of smell. The God Items are a pair of feet-slot Riding Spurs that upgrade the riding tier of a mount by one, and Animal mounts in particular can access a "Great" tier as part of the faction bonus that gives even more bonuses to the mount, like getting to use the higher of the rider or the mount's resistances/DV/PV when attacked. Their Weapon is an Axe that, in addition to huge damage to animals, can be used as a Butchering Tool on them to automatically upgrade the quality of the meat found like how the Kumiromi sickle gives you stuff for using it on plant followers.
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>>50553577
elin cooking bonus is double that of jure. but its prob just a placeholder.

>>50553554
we already have kumiromi for farming, ehekatl for fishing and horome for music so the more important things are already covered though. maybe a god focused on crafting and blacksmithing would be fun, but those systems dont really offer much yet. same for ranching.
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Elin better have weaving bonus.
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Obviously we need more malevolent gods.
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>>50553681
you already have the pantheon
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>>50553681
Bro your Mani, Lulwy, Yakasha, Ehekatl and Jure?
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>>50553324
Are you talking about the giant talking lizard in Elona?
>>50553708
What about Ehekatl and Jure being evil?
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>>50553741
>claims land
>names it "Farthest Sea"
What now Wanderer?
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>>50549724
I always copy a bunch over("inheritance")
The combat portion of the hobo phase is fine but I just get pissed off when I think of something I want to build and can't due to recipe or resource shortages. Crafting and gathering skills are a little too grindy to raise on multiple characters for my liking. Doesn't help that rushing void gear for skills is probably more efficient than playing normally.
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>>50553756
Plot twist: the Wanderer's name is Ano and he ends up creating the Farthest Pee
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>>50553403
God of commerce who allows you to throw gems and the various currencies of the game to deal damage, with rarer currencies hitting harder. Their weapon is a gold sword that turns enemy corpses into gems/gold/money drops. Apostle is a merchant who can change what kind of shop they run once per day and rerolls their shop inventory every day instead of every 5 days.
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>>50553751
>What about Ehekatl and Jure being evil?
Ehekatl promotes gambling and degenerate catgirl behaviour
And Jure is a SMELLY RETARD whose followers are BORDERLINE INBRED LEVELS OF STUPID and MURDER WITHOUT REMORSE simply because you didn't like their DUMB GAY GODDESS
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>>50553826
>Their weapon is a gold sword that turns enemy corpses into gems/gold/money drops.
There are too many sword artifacts. Could it be a handgun or crossbow or something
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>>50553836
>whose followers are BORDERLINE INBRED LEVELS OF STUPID and MURDER WITHOUT REMORSE
Sounds like the Juere
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>>50553844
What about a cane? There's not much love for magic weaponry outside of lightsabers and Itzpalt's stripper pole
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>>50553844
Boxing Glove for the midas touch? Handgun that shoots orens instead of bullets?
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>>50553826
>God of commerce
Literally Yacatect
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>>50553511
You're talking to the person who made this sprite, now tell me again that I have talent.
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>>50553858
>Boxing Glove for the midas touch?
sounds cool
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>>50553858
>>50553883
Isn't there a Golden Gloves boxing tourney thing irl that you could also reference with that?
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>>50553858
>Handgun that shoots orens instead of bullets?
grenade that blows up pennies
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>>50553826
Why does everything have to be combat related?
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>>50553901
Because artifacts + you spend a lot of your time nefia grinding unless you're a berrypilled farmcel absolutely kumiroming your shit 24/7 in the Meadows
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>>50553901
If a god doesn't have combat benefits they're largely going to be pointless because everything ties into combat in Elona/Elin. Have you ever tried a pacifist character? No, having companions do the killing for you doesn't count. Even Kumiromi benefits are strongly tied to combat.
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Anyone else have a glitch where collecting with build board just deletes items and know the fix? I think it has something to do with full storage boxes.
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>>50553927
What sort of items are you collecting? Are they containers which need to go into your main backpack? I don't know how the overflow inventory works exactly but I wouldn't be surprised if it deletes items if you try to pick up too many things at once.
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>>50553924
NTA, but I am literally playing a pacifist character now who is relying on his companions to do all the damage. It's weird no longer valuing combat skills in my run. At least i have Kizuami's dagger to look forward to.
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>>50553947
Doesn't really seem to matter, noticed on a corpse/card and as a test a statue of Lulwy.

I would prefer if they would go into my main backpack but I believe storage is prioritised and don't know if you can change that, especially annoying as some stuff was getting sent to the shipping box when it was working.
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>>50553927
They most likely go to randomass container in your base.
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>>50553995
I'm looking with Ctrl-F
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>>50553901
Everything eventually ties back to combat. I did have an idea for an establishing a religion of (You) where the total population of people with high Affinity determines how strong of a boost you get, which would encourage building bases and doing quests in them to build a following of people who'd eventually worship (You). Kind of an ActRaiser kinda scenario. No holy relic/apostle, but you gradually get further and further ranks of a divinity trait that makes you overall stronger ala ADAM.
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>>50554005
That's Mani plot without robots
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>>50554005
>getting power from drugging everyone with love drugs
nice
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What about a malevolent breeding/preggers god somewhat akin to the mother of all evil/monsters?
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>>50554036
We have Lulwy at home...
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>>50554074
she would prob wind herself an abortion if she got prego
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>>50553924
In Elona+cgx you can tcg duel any enemy to death instead of fighting. You could make a yugioh character that just duels to win every battle. You'll always be at a disadvantage hp wise though.
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>>50554109
Oh shit I wish some backer put in money for that instead of tentacle and tantacle shit
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>>50554109
I don't think you can tcg duel monsters and as far as I know the tcg mechanic wasn't fully implemented? I get the point where I'm building a deck and nothing happens.
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>>50554100
...What do you think the Etherwind is...? :^)
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>>50552710
>more info resists
It's still an undue advantage tbdesu
individual resists are different from monster to monster due to equips and izpalt worship possibility, if you saw that instantly and knew exactly what intonation or spell to cast to get through without using a few actions probing and guessing or at the very least keeping a 'see what god others worship' item in your inventory to see if it's an izpalt worshipper then you have multiple actions in advantage over people without your 'convenience' mod
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>>50553708
Jure is legitimately so innocent she thinks of Mani as an older brother. The guy who explicitly considers her to be one of the biggest obstacles to his plan (some fucking how.)
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>>50554353
"The mole people keep me out cuz they don't like women"
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>>50554360
idgi
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>>50554353
Probably because the only thing binding all the other Gods together is the conspiracy to keep Jure in the dark, for whatever reason.
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>>50554005
I'm the god of bioengineering abominations to serve me.
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We need a lust god.
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Mifu pregnancy soon.
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>>50554381
Part of that might be that Itzpalt is the oldest/strongest and leader of the pantheon, and Odina was his lover. So he has a personal interest in ensuring his sister in-law is happy. Or maybe healing is just such an important pillar for the world to continue functioning that Jure losing her power would seriously fuck up the world. Or maybe it's tied to what happened with Eris, and a Jure who became corrupted could turn into something horrible and deadly.
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>>50554395
You'd think the Succubi and Vampires would have a god they worship, none of the pantheon really fits them much (lore wise, not bonus wise.)
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I just want this community to be normal for once.
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>>50554409
>community
The one that needs fixing is (You).
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>>50554349
Invalid argument until a proper bestiary or adjacent system is in-game as well as a "Scan" ability. Undeveloped game systems are not an argument against quality of life.
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>>50554416
uh
no u
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>>50554265
>I don't think you can tcg duel monsters
You need to enable allow tcg against anyone in tweaks > extra gameplay, once you do you can shadow game duel anything in the game, as long as you can actually make it to them to use the interact menu on them which can be an issue against high level enemies. But you can from the moment you get your deck waltz in and challenge <Utima> the destroyer of Xeren to a shadow game using teleportation shenanigans. She will have like 8k hp in the duel and good luck doing that with a starter deck but you can do it.

You can challenge non-enemies to normal duels too using the interact menu.
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>>50554426
You don't get it anon, if you're not going to play the way Noa-sama intended let's pretend that he gives a single fuck, you might as well not play!
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>>50554441
I feel like Noa-sama listens if you send feedback through the Nightly branch. I just don't use mods to send this sort of feedback just in case it's a problem with the mod versus the game itself. After all, he's developing the base game and not some random person's mods. So far it seems to have worked, but I haven't sent much feedback other than the skill requirements for Basic Heavy Casting being changed (since I frequently use shields) and ranged weapons displaying their random enchantment prior to being made. They're so broad, that I'm probably not the only one reporting on this kind of thing.
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>>50554482
There are many absolute retards that instead of using the in-game feedback option they spam gaycord and cry about it like a little bitch instead of properly reporting.
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>>50554482
NTA but a vast majority of what I'd want to bring up with Noa isn't really feedback so much as it is game system suggestions and most devs fucking hate the whole "a hundred people with their hands on the wheel" development process so I just don't say anything at all.
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the quiet anon loses
the bleating discordtroon wins
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>>50554507
At this point, I don't think this sort of feedback hurts specifically. Noa-sama recently got Version Control, so he's probably able to work on some things parallel to the NIghtly branch without pushing it there (and possibly without spoiling some surprises). Yeah, it does make Noa seem like a noob in terms of programming, but it's better he has it now than never. It's probably a huge, unseen boost to his productivity.

Or maybe I'm just stupidly hopeful for a Japanese man I've ever met. IDK
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>>50554539
What happens to the crossposting anon, though? Win or lose?
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>>50554567
He hangs himself
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>>50554581
Let us go together.
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>>50552594
Truth nvke
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>>50554402
>Part of that might be that Itzpalt is the oldest/strongest and leader of the pantheon
Kumiromi is a little younger than Itzpalt (maybe) but is actually stronger, or at least seems to think so. Though he is also ambivalent to all the Pantheon but Ehekatl. But you might have a point with the family ties and her domain.
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I want an eyth quest
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me destroying lulwy in bed
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Why has this thread been so fast?
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>>50554779
Someone was having a fit about backer content and that made all the other posters rambunctious.
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>>50552853
it's got sexy anime mods with jiggle physics, plus the Voice chat and missions are fun
modding it is extremely easy, its all XML and Lua. literally cannot get easier
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>>50554779
I've wanted to talk more about the lore but we are kinda at the point where we would just be rehashing everything so instead I'm looking into modding Elona
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>>50554779
melties
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I took a nap and missed someone else taking my spot as the sperg lol...

sorry. I have given up and won't bring it up again, I myself am feeling tired of the grind after a thousand hours.
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As someone who is just picking up this game, I wanted to ask something. Are the beginner guides on the OP useless nowadays?
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>>50554793
What if Jure is some sort of apocalypse demon that needs to be kept in an infantile form to prevent her from ending the very reality they live in? Eyth getting voided may have something to do with it. The disappearance of her Sisters, what if was all some sort of God CIA cover up to prevent Jure from realizing that whe can just Yeet them all with God Nukes?
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>>50554804
They're better than nothing I guess.
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>>50554808
There is a red book in the game you can read about Odina/Jure/Eris, you know.
>>50554804
The game has a dozen or so tutorial books you can read in game now just go in blind
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>>50554816
>There is a red book in the game you can read about Odina/Jure/Eris, you know.
I'm still playing Elona, I could go to the wiki and read it but that would take the fun out of the game and the speculation.
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>>50554804
It's a lot easier going in blind because there are easily accessible tutorial books now which actually go somewhat in-depth on some of the more obscure game mechanics compared to the original F1 guide which only covered the barest of basics very briefly.
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Why is pael so frail?
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>>50554811
>>50554816
>>50554821
I see, thanks. I'll go in blind then.
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Is there any way to set up instant cast hotkeys like you can in Elona? There's very little reason to go into a "prepared" state for some spells like Magic Map. I just want to press the button and it casts. I know there's the "use self target abilities directly via hotkeys" option but unfortunately that applies to all actions, not just the ones which are self-target only.
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>>50554821
Yeah I think those adventurer basics are actually quite fun and helpful while being in-universe
Discordtroon backer-sama doing a good public service
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>>50554834
you can take a box like a sturdy crate and put it in your hotbar, then drag spells / skills into it to use as another [hot[bar
no, there are no extra hotkeys unfortunately, seems people are just okay rightclicking and middle clicking...
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>>50554834
>>50554851
I hate how Elin has no keyboard support SO FUCKING MUCH
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>>50554825
Daddy mating pressed too hard...
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>>50554855
based
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>>50554808
My pet theory used to be that Jure IS Ondina and Eris, that she was Ondina but died, then reincarnated as Eris, but Eris sided with the negentrophy gods, so she had to get put down and reincarnated as Jure, who has had her memory fucked with to think these were her older sisters and is coddled so much to keep the incident with Eris from repeating.
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>>50554852
>>50554872
I want some of that pussy...
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>>50554872
Lore accurate brain damage
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>>50554861
That's actually a pretty awesome theory and explains why no one wants to talk about it. Also interesting that she is a being that reincarnates.
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pregnancy doko?
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>>50554884
Yeah I came up with it back before Elin was really out and we didn't really have any solid information about the three. It also explained why Itzpalt has been recovering lately like his profile says, because the reincarnation of his wife is doing well, even if she just seems him as an old uncle now.
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>>50554892
Doesn't she see him as a pervert? Also I'm curious what Yakasha would do if she ever found out she is a daughter of Elin and killed her sisters.
I'm also curious how Elin figures in this considering the game is both an acronym and her name.
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>>50554887
Birthing doko
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doko doko...
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>>50554901
No, she sees Itzpalt as a 'nice uncle'. She sees Opatos as the pervert, and he's the god Jure likes the least.
>I'm curious what Yakasha would do
I'm pretty sure this question will get answered, because I think the main plot is supposed to be about Elin and her.
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>>50549647
I love that Japan loves that little bike.
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>>50554872
>God
Fedora shield activate, I sleep
>God Kemomimi
Yup, it's time to hand over my eternal soul
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Why didn't anyone tell me Todcole is in Elin?
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>>50554991
You would've already known if you were a real fan.
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>>50554956
not just Japan i think
it's literally the most-produced motor vehicle in the history of humankind
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How do i sell slaves?
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>>50555017
sales tag and tag a resident?
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>>50555023
I have never used sales tags before so i guess that'll be the next thing i learn
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Do you think Mani's machine arm has a vibrate option for when he jerks off?
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>>50555039
It probably opens up to another arm so he can jack off and make a sandwich, and hit a vape at the same time. That's before what he can do with his feet.
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>>50555039
He probably has drugs for every kind of pleasure instead
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What is this Mani slander? He'd never succumb to such base pleasures when he already experienced Lulwy's BPD.
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Thread! The nachos made my poo-poo REALLY stinky!
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>>50555171
I'll take 5 please
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>>50555171
Honestly a full on Pokémon mod would be amazing.
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>>50555171
generative AI and CWL has been a disaster for the elinsinn race
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>>50554005
Of course everything ties back to combat in some way, but there's a difference between "This sickle scales damage on farming skill" vs "This sickle increases the level of food harvested" or some shit, which is then used to stat train and thus affects combat.
If everything just becomes "Well this is my farming flavored weapon" and "this is my money flavored weapon" that's kind of boring.
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You will never love your job as much as a butcher in North Tyris does.
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>>50554991
He's 184 years old you sick fuck
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How can I obtain a BBQ table? I can steal it because it says its too heavy and I have no idea how to get the recipe.
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>>50555331
Level blacksmith to 17 then potentially spend several months if not years traveling around the world to the small handful of BBQ Tabel locations hammering them, waiting for town resets and praying that RNG favors you. Or you find a table/wheel and savescum.
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>>50555348
fug
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>>50554779
I'm pretty sure like one or two subhumans from the d___ord are trying to spam every thread to oblivion. Like it's just one fag making the same retarded arguments and then posting the same retarded counterarguments at himself over and over every thread, and another fag constantly shitting out completely meaningless posts of only a couple words just to sink threads faster. They've been doing this for the past several threads, it's incredibly, blatantly obvious. Only question is how long it'll take them to realize that spending all their free time attacking a random 4chan thread is the online equivalent of wallowing in your own shit. They're <80 IQ and all, so I'd say about a month, give or take a week.
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>>50555363
who cares

except for you, of course
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>>50555363
Bullseye
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The thread is sinking so FAST. HELP!!!
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>>50555419
I think we're actually going to spend more time drifting to page 10 than we did before hitting bump limit.
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Wall of Flesh needs to be nerfed because now I have to put actual thought into which genes I want to use for all of my companions instead of just stacking resistance on everyone.
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>>50555363
Been here since Elona lol, I'm not even on the discord.
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>>50555440
just don't use him(her) then
leave my sister alone it's an offline game nerfing thing is not necessary
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>>50555331
>>50555348
Or find a paper/hemp/silk hammer, then steal it, or work on your weight lifting/stealing skill, then steal it.
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How does a paper BBQ table or ice furnace even work? Wouldn't they burn?
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How does dark matter boomerangs work
I mean it should be invisible and uninteractable except for gravitational effects
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We need more materials with unique effects.
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>Vampire Bat as war quest boss
Jesus fuckin Christ this cunt is a run ender if I've ever seen one.
I assume having a good fire ability would be helpful here.
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>>50555738
Jure protects me so LOL sucks to be you!
Jure Gift box every year has a Jure figurine that protects you from vamp/bat bloodsuck
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>>50555738
>run ender
how, it's a bat
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>>50555939
blood suck does heavy nether damage, unless you got immunity it's certain death. I had one show up in a nefia and twoshot me without warning since I never expected that
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Did we all move to that /v/ thread...
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>>50550653
the effect wasn't implemented last time I checked
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Stairs when doko?
Imagine making a fully detailed apartment building.
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>>50552934
I'm annoyed by the fact sprites aren't the same size anymore, I cannot import some of my favourites in elin without them looking weird
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>>50555171
I'm using the second one but it kinda sucks, I'll probably remove it my next playthrough
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>>50555768
Oh shit I actually bought one in Noyel and immediately auto dumped.
Guess I'm opening my Jure gifts and buying them all next time, need that immunity cause no point surviving if it gives my precious boys and girls.
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I wish Horome had some more flexibility with weapons, like naginata/polearm onnabushi would fit the aesthetic.
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>>50556245
You know you are not forced to use longswords right..? Use whatever you want.
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Is Intonation of Lightning good for general purpose? Big Daddy is a common threat and I can't think of any massive threat that resists bar the elemental dragons and maybe one horned beast. Easily available from the bow guy too.
Or is Chaos better for rebuffs or is it better to use it defensively.
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>>50556251
Yes I am aware that I could sacrifice a small chunk of gains to use an alternate weapon. But I want to satisfy my synergy autism
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>>50556272
Lightning intonation fucks with wet damage bonus, the issue is Itzpalt followers eventually gain immunity to it which means you need a pet that can strip god bonuses from enemies.
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>need y'glomonac at certain point
>need inquisitor at certain point
nice freedom
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Four T-Rexes
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>>50556306
Ah shit forgot about that.
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>>50555638
>Or find a paper/hemp/silk hammer, then steal it,
I didn't even think of that. Thats a much better plan.
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>>50555738
>finally kill it
>turtle across the map casts Lay on Hands
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>>50556123
genuinely haven't been on v for almost a month
>let's check that thr-
Jesus, no wonder. I actually groaned out loud..
the collective IQ of the browns there can barely reach double digits
>whining about no achievements (literal autistic kid)
>whining about regional pricing
>baiting about rpgmaker
>baiting about sales
it's just so insufferable and uninteresting, CIA won.
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>>50556527
I never even considered wishing for gene potions, a good ass early gene sounds great
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Does gene splicing pets change their gender or if both pets are male do they stay male? This is an E+ question.
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>>50556480
Just more proof of how GAY and STUPID Jure is (and by extension turtles)
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>>50555738
In Elona I went to a level 49 Nefia when I was 43 and literally as soon as I went to the final floor there were two giantic vampire bats standing on either side of me and they took turns paralyzing me and succ'ing me dry while Isca kinda just uselessly buffed me and kept on whiffing her shots until I died.
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Is there any benefit to asking a pet to sleep in your bed with you? I assume this is just for waifu/husbando roleplay?
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>>50556683
raises affection
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>>50556692
That reminds me, anyone know the specifics on Rose Quartz equipment? Does it stack and is it a notable multiplier?
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>>50553300
He did some good changes like lining up the portraits to look more like their sprites, I find that Ano, or whoever Ano got (or stole) the sprites from are honestly better than the default vanilla portraits
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>>50556692
Oh. I didn't know it actually raised affection. This may explain why certain companions have been gaining affection faster.
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>>50556123
Why would I go to /v/ when I can shitpost the same things here?
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>>50557357
meeting new people is more fun than engaging with the same 15 people every single day
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>>50557369
But it's probably the same 15 people still, just with the added benefit of a straggler maybe showing up to be like "idk lol" and then back to the same 15 people.
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>>50557369
Oh so WE'RE not cool enough for you, is that it? Well fuck you buddy. I hope you get a wooden baby statue in your mail and have your snowman generator melted by a gang of fire hounds you you DOUBLE JUERER
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>>50557388
I like you, Anon. I come here specifically to talk to (You).
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>>50557369
I hate meeting new people
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>>50557406
waow rly?
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>>50557475
nta but based 100% OJ player, QP is a QT and I didn't realize she was basically named after a brand of Mayo until like a year ago lol.
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>>50557475
Yes, Anon. I wake up every day and wonder how you're doing, and what you're up to in Elin. I just love watching everything you do. I have a whole folder of game screenshots from you and your character for later use.
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>>50557481
To be honest it's been ages since I've played OJ because I got caught up with Elin and other games and it's admittedly hard for me to keep a mental note to keep up with it and the events. Same with Armello, though at least there you're only missing out on dice chests because the game gets an update once every two millenniums
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>>50557527
Anon, Armello has been dead for months. League of Geeks went on "indefinite hiatus", aka shut down. The last news post is about yet another money sucking kickstarter for merch before the board game kickstarter got fulfilled. And this time they are selling geek dice and black company skins, taking a huge dump on the people who made them possible to begin with.
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>>50557600
Shame....always liked the game and wished the setting could be incorporated into more games...
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Dropped from a lvl 97 Big Daddy, literally twice as good as anything I have ever seen.
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>>50557736
Adamantite is just that good.
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>>50557736
I'm killing level 1000+ big daddies and I don't think I've seen any adamantite drops with high range stats like that. My best armor PV is slightly above 100 with a majority of drops on heavier armor being 50-60.
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Got an Earthquake gene, it's relatively cheap (28 FP).

Is it worthwhile or does it cause grief? Surprised to see it scales with Magic, not Str or End.
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>>50557772
Yeah I played a lot on a prior file and those were the numbers I'm used to seeing. Shame the enchants on it rolled so shit but I don't think it's ever not going to be somewhere in my party.
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>>50557780
If you give the person you give the gene a Magic Control book, should be okay eventually.
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>>50557780
Earthquake spam is how most folks clear out higher void levels. As long as your pet has double-digit Magic Control you should generally be fine. If you want to be 100% you can also add the Magic Precision feat for a flat 80% chance to prevent friendly fire on top of doubling their effective Magic Control.
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>>50557527
>>50557600
>Armello
wtf is armello?
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>>50557810
I think it's when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie?
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>>50557817
>Frank Sinatra book
Ship it to Noa asap!
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>>50557821
>book
I meant joke but I was looking at a book...
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Is it immoral to avoid tedious grind? It's not Elin is lacking in content.... but sometimes I don't want to spend time that I'm not having fun with, despite all the rest of the fun I'm having anyways.
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>>50557889
Anyone who doesn't use Autoact is actually retarded with how much resources are necessary just to level crafting skills.
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>>50557905
t. cheater
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>>50557908
Yes.
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I miss map wide meteor.
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I miss living weapons
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Abusing the map reset to repeatedly convert all the altars at the Truce Ground is not cheating.
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I miss self gene editing.
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I miss even with 150% accuracy, constantly
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>>50558000
Correct, it is known as "cheesing".
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>>50558004
Should have picked wizard.
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>>50558004
That's what you get for not worshiping Ehekatl.
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>>50558004
Should've picked Nefu for the accuracy bonus to Longswords.
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>>50558004
Should have debuffed enemy for 30 turns first
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>>50558004
Why didn't you just bring your Handmaiden of Lolith with AoE bane with Inquisition spliced in their DNA? Bro?
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>>50558101
>Lolith
I was that was real
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>>50558105
Sorry I don't play Baldur's Gate so I don't know the proper spelling.
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All of my residents are starving and constantly dying, I hate this retarded gay change.
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>>50558125
Noa just wants Westerners to turn to their vast knowledge of mass-food production and create a prosperous civilization for our residents instead of stuffing them in a hearthstone until we need them to be a shop.
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>>50558129
I will keep my main base with livestock feed, the rest can starve.
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>>50558129
Oh but don't you know, I am currently living in LUNCH city, and we're expanding fast.
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>>50558146
How often do you get these meals? Once a week or once a month?
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KK with my sister little sisters level up way too fucking fast.
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We desperately need "Stop using ability X" option with our companions.
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>>50558176
Just use CustomAI. It's kind of janky compared to CGX but it's still better than nothing.
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>>50558167
If only they could stay young and innocent forever.
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>>50558208
Calm down Lewis
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>>50558212
I would say yes depending on race/class but Y'golonac pretty much universally kills the need for any defensive feats so Life is out and Mana is usually only taken if you have Mana Body but that's defensive so again highly devalued which only leaves Vigor which can be nice if you use a lot of stamina in nefias but for crafting all you need is to bring out a healer and you can easily push several hundred negative.
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>>50558212
Life-stacking Golem Opatos with Earth Hammer to double it. Stamina is just good in general for doing shit.
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>>50558212
I'm playing a Fairy with only one companion, I need the health.
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>>50558212
better than most other feats
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People make some weird-ass mods
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>>50558445
so we can actually mail shit to each other now?!
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>>50558445
I'm guessing multiple people can use codes, no server-side thing to track codes, just generating item codes.
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>Sea
>Fishing Spot
>Fertile
>Danger Level 100
Time to set up my final farm and use several thousand bait.
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>>50558487
does fish quality scale with danger level or something
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>>50558504
No but you get more statues so if you're going to make an ocean base you may as well make it max danger level.
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>>50558220
>Black Souls
lmafo
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>>50558445
That's a neat idea, I liked it when it was in Animal Crossing.
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>>50558470
I assume that as long as you both have the mod, it'll work fine
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>>50558555
>lmafo
Completely unrelated and off-topic but it made me remember this
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>>50558563
Eh, common misspell, Grammar Nazis cry while low IQs shine!
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waiting a whole year for a wish that can be as low powered as an 11 speed ring to as high as 33 speed ring with no licks...silly
>>50558000
except truce grounds never reset? and the altars there are immune to conversion?
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Take a little break from lurking and come back to 500 posts and a missed /v/ thread.
Such is the passing of time.
Speaking of, how are your home maps looking like?
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>>50546330
I have made improvements to the living conditions of my people. They now have bunkbeds and a roof over their heads.
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>>50558627
They even have a bookshelf to entertain theirselves before another day in the mines. Good job Anon.
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>>50558627
Use this to make a perimeter
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>>50558623
I like your right one
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>>50558623
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>>50558186
Is there any way to prevent your NPCs from summoning shit? Can brain cells do it?
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>>50558666
No. None of the AI types have zero summoning usage. Hell there isn't even one that has lowered summon usage.
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>>50558680
So basically handmaiden is unuseable?
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>>50558682
Abandon the vanilla ways and start modding, the future is now.
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>>50558692
No...I...I must remain pure and steadfast for Noa. You can't trick me into reducing the effort needed to stripmine an entire Nefia, or get my allies in on it. Quality of life? More like CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT!!!
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>>50558702
>Fanatic of Noa of grind
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havent played the game in almost a whole year! did they change a lot in order for me to start a new playthrough?
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>>50558709
Yeah bro you can start over on a new character just in time to get gangbanged by 2Bs in Puppy Cave on Day 2
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>>50558702
Noa's code (ass) is the best.
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threads on autosage
post your tents
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>>50558726
I'm very much into economics.
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>>50558726
Scut!
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>>50554852
>>50554872
>>50558726
Our lives would be meaningless without the Gods!
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the scammed are to blame
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Crawling in my robes these wounds will need a healer!
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Some times Nobles collect weird things.
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>>50558768
Kill nobles on sight.
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>>50558739
Scut stands for "It's cute".
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Okay boys you got me I'm in.
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>>50558818
nyou talk funny!
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>>50558818
If you teach allies stealth and put a circle track down here can you make a feat level idler?
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>>50558830
Yes.
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Is Livestock privileges worth it?
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Only if you're trying to level them for better milk/eggs and assuming you can make enough food for them.
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>>50558909
hmm that does seem useful desu. Also applies to fiber quality too right?
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>>50558909
Do attributes factor in to produce quality at all? I thought it was pure feat level.

If you want good livestock level summon animal and propose.
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I can't believe Noa violated the sanctity of his own lore by adding fox girls I am so mad
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>>50559150
I can't believe it, how could he assault us with fluffy tails and the option to pet their heads?
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>>50559150
the best part is that he did it not once, but twice lmao
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Will feeding little girls acid terminate pregnancy in real life?
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>>50559158
Technically yeah.
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What in the goddamn
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>>50559175
Finally all my headless horses will be fixed.
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>>50558818
I don't know the mechanics of this game very well, what exactly does this do for you?
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>>50559231
They're hostile but out of range, you can't melee attack them but you can interact with them.
They grow hair (dragons scale) you can shear that regrows without needing pasture.
You can pickpocket them without karma loss.
When you're near an enemy who can't see you you get stealth XP so simply existing in the mass matrix gives you an absolute shitload of stealth and by extension perception XP.

Basically it's mechanic abuse that allows you to train 3 skills which are quite finicky to train normally, and gives you good blanket fodder.
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>>50559254
Neat, thanks for explaining. I guess all you need is a mass monster to randomly attack a base to set this all up?
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>>50559261
Easier to catch one and put it on gallows but yeah, as long as you have one you should be good, there's restrictions on moving NPCs around hostiles but no restrictions on changing tile height. I think 8 is the min height difference required, might be 9.
Whistle of Peace makes things easier, And a piece of gear that sustains endurance in particular.
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how does wall of flesh interact with metal gene?
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>>50559420
Metal's damage reduction is halved when absorbing blows redirected by wof.
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>>50559523
PEAK
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Every time I open a new mystic chest it always opens up at the very top right of the scren overlapping with a bunch of my widgets and inventory
I dont know how to fix that
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>>50559537
Why do you even care about that though? Just press "G" to take everything and then sort your backpack in your base.
If you really want to fix it then try rearranging your widgets or something.
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>>50559543
Because it's just the mystic chests
everything else opens at the center of screen normally
It is annoying
Are you autistic?
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>>50559545
>Are you autistic?
I think the autistic thing here is to be bothered by it, it's a non-problem.
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retarded baiting hours have begun
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>>50559551
>have begun
that happened 14 hours ago
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does anyone have pics of younger sisteroids
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I read Younger Sisteroid as Younger Sis Steroids
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>>50559584
If I can't find my Imouto, I must become the Imouto.
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>>50559581
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>You can also place a Dagger grave purchased from the casino and mourn at it. By mourning the casino-purchased grave for the 14th time, the player can initiate battle [With Innos] at any location.
WAIT WHAT
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>>50559615
Huh?
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Let us begin....
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it's fun and all until you realize you get to grind multiple skills in order to make somewhat decent king bed
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Don't forget your spiderweb recipe silk hammered comfort 10 texture, that's a must
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>Fixed an issue where horses that already had a head would grow an additional head when loading the game (horses that already gained extra heads will remain unchanged)
kek
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>>50559734
That's called the game though? To be fair Elin pushes you to do some of everything but all you need is farming and carpentry.
>>50559745
This mindset kills fun unless you actually enjoy it, not for everyone.
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>>50559752
carpentry and farming and weaving and savescumming statue for silk hammer and weeks of dismantling for ether gem
otherwise may as well just use rubynus bunk beds
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He SHOULD HAVE made the poll here
fuck discord
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>>50559763
Like I was saying it kills fun. If you want to do this shit and be optimal fine, that's what it's there for but don't act like it's some massive hurdle everyone has to overcome.
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>>50559794
why here? you're literally worthless and have no say in anything
why would anyone cater to anonymouse goons who don't even buy the product nor interact with the dev ?
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>>50559788
KND-01 or just K4N3D4 would've hit just right, people just can't help themselves with the funny xs huh
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>>50559814
he was the one putting the names there though
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>>50559814
They should rename Purser to xXdArKaVeNgErXx.
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>>50559819
Yeah. Just funny to see the choices that went up against with it

>>50559868
CRAWLING IN MY ROBES
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>>50559794
no he should have made the poll ingame
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>>50559898
Maybe if you were a golemGOD you could wear this light armor swimsuit properly
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>>50559983
Imagine being a soulless pile of rocks lmao, couldn't be me

This post was made by undead gang
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Imagine not having BIG JUERE COCK
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>>50560030
Not a writhing mass of primal ether
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>>50560057
Imagine being Juere, how horrifying!
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RUINED. ABSOLUTELY RUINED.
150 RIDING AND 85 STR ON MOUNT, AND THIS IS WHAT I'M REDUCED TO DUE TO PEAKY.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>50559983
>a golemGOD
a Godem? HAAAAA, GOT'EMMMMM!!!!
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I unironically had a dream where my farm in Elona+ spawned a Clown Horse Fish that was hostile to me and killed me when I had a death crest on and I dropped a shit ton of stuff.
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>>50560399
>dream
Well I mean nightmare because it was highly disturbing, especially the stat drop
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I Exile apostle still overpowered in Elin?
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>>50560413
kinda
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>>50560394
So what does Peaky do?
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>>50560548
It ups the limit on a mount's maximum speed, makes it lose speed when it gets hit, and severely ups the riding requirement. I was at 340 speed on this 500-speed bike before the new patch. I am now at 108.
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>>50560559
So mounts are fucking dead now, great! Void with 140 speed time! So fun!
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>>50560578
It only applies to the bikes right now. Theoretically I could go back to the Yowyn Horse any time. I'm just deathly curious how fucking much STR and Riding I need to use this properly.
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>>50560582
I just got a fucking bike to. Fuck Noa.
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>>50560578
>>50560582
>>50560588
The Super Cub Snub! F to Behicles.
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>>50560615
CORRECTION. It doesn't actually apply to Cub. But Cub only has 160 speed, so I'd be operating at a speed loss if I switched to it. So...Yeah. I need to figure out save editing just so I can see if tripling its str to like 300 would undo the issue or not because as-is getting *zero* benefits from 150 fucking riding is absurd.
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UPDATE: OH MY FUCKING GOD PEAKY IS A FUCKING PLAGUE. The bike is now at 623 speed. I used the console to set my Riding to 1600. MY SPEED IS STILL LOCKED TO 87. GO FUCK YOURSELF NOA THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
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>>50560788
Time to bitch about it in the discord!
Please use in-game feedback
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>>50560711
>>50560788
>>50560793
You VILL be slow and you VILL be happy.
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<cheters crying abowt teh speed
enmjoy way game is 2 b played pls or u dident beet it.
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should have used a horse yerlesfags
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FUCK YOU NOAAA!
Now I will use KK With my sister to generate a super fast sister and turn her into my mount.
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>>50560788
Is it supposed to be used to speed up slower mounts? I don't even know what peaky means, kumiromi peaky peak pecker
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What is this calming spiritual wave Isca emits in Elona? I can't find anything about it on the wiki.
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Is the Replica Jure Lance good for anything?
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>>50559254
If you hang yourself while underwater you get to train light/heavy armor, swimming, and maybe shield.
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I think I'm in love, all of a sudden the Elea did nothing wrong!
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>Removed skill requirements for learning the feat “Exemplary Believer.”
I called it.
Manually praying for the first five levels wasn't that much of a hassle, it was like an ingame month.
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>>50560793
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>>50560910
Can't you take enchants out of it?
15 darkness or nether resist seems good.
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>>50561252
Being bike cucked is worse in
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>>50561294
elona/elin because they are probably also fucking your bike.*
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>>50561294
>>50561299
Bikewife theft should be considered a more serious offense but it explains a lot of the pregnant bikes in Derphy's Slave Market...
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>>50560559
>>50560788
So why was this added? I don't see the value in doing it.
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>>50561361
Okay so, I found it. Peaky effectively is adding a negative mount modifier. Each rank is 20% of the Bad Mount modifier being added. So my bike has Peaky 7 and thus 140% worse riding.
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>>50561292
Oh shit you're right you probably can, it's not an artifact at all.Wonder about the Holy Veil too.
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>>50560802
Boy I sure do love having a casual leisurely 10-day stroll to Olvina every month or so instead of just blitzing there at the speed of fuck
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>>50561659
I thought speed doesn't matter on world map
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>>50561668
It doesn't.
There is a mod for that.
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i have 5 bases all around the map so I just have a teleporter network set up to everywhere
there are also more than a dozen story dungeons you can always return to, to cut down on overworld walking
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>>50561414
So why? Is there a way to get rid of those ranks or what?
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Lulwy thinks I'm pretty :3c
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>>50561890
That's about as positive as a fat middle-aged obese Japanese man calling you a hot piece of ass desu
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>>50561897
>That's about as positive as a fat middle-aged obese Japanese man
Noa is many things, but fat isn't one of them.
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Okay I got my Y'molonac, do I put him as a staff/shield user to abuse that one staff with mana body?
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>You can roll 40 MAG potency blood with base multipliers as a vampire.
>To get close to this normally you need to throw love potions to Arasizzle and get huge PER penalties, and the other MAG food sucks.
Jesus.
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>>50562181
The staff basically doubles their mana, it even has resists.
That and the earth hammer doubles their bulk.
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>>50561890
Okay, that's enough Elona for me for the day, time flies. I'm slowly inching forwards being able to complete the main quest.
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>>50562184
Hell, even blood packs have good stats compared to normal food.
A sweet potato blood pack has 26 mag pot and 14 mag, also giving str bonuses too, that's pretty good.
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>>50562190
>the earth hammer
That's MY anatomy printer.
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Silver bell modified with Warrior brain cell + earth hammer
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>>50562190
I think..I'll let my trusty Golden Knight continue using her Opatos Hammer, it would feel wrong to take it away from her.
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>>50562283
What happens if you add metal gene to a bell?

Metal reduces 0.1% damage per feat point and they have 999, is that the max or does it hit 1000 and ensure they take 1 damage per 4 attacks?
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Dev Idea: Give Mani the ability to make Kiria from a miscreation to a creation to a discreation (desecration?) That makes her looks spooky.
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>>50562346
Kiria the Mechanical Doll to Kiria the Manifestation
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>>50562346
>>50562351
more like Kiria the Mechanical Weapon
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When you browse Kettle's/Demitas' shops to trigger the monthly restock what happens if you don't buy out their stock? Does it continue to add when they duplicate more or does everything get wiped for the next batch?
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>>50560910
It has very good antimagic for how early you can get it.
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>>50562725
So pretty much just a dedicated tank weapon?

Maybe on this slab of meat >>50562181 alongside the real one, which would allow it to hit the full 90% Anti-Magic (Alongside immunity to nether and dark) although it would leave the PV a bit lacking (Can still hit 40-60 with just blessings depending on usage of the staff/mace but if you're taking all the melee attacks that might be insufficient). Probably still want at least 5 sound resist as even 10% of a Spiral King Sound ball 5-8 times is going to be a bit taxing but defintely seems an option to keep in the sack of holding for when you need to menu it or suffer.
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>>50562661
I've never tested for obvious reasons but I'd be reasonably sure that it gets wiped.
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>>50562978
>So pretty much just a dedicated tank weapon?
Anon it's a d1 weapon with numerous highly beneficial defensive stats. You're not going to do damage with it unless you have Hunger for Slaughter.
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>>50562986
Yeah but he replica comes with -life which seems situational as hell.
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>>50563017
can't you steal runes out of it?
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>Place a training dummy in my tent
>Hosted pet immediately panzerfausts it next time I enter my tent, breaking all the walls around it
why did I not see this coming
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>>50563111
Deserved.
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A minute ago my newest character chopped down a tree in a town, a putit fell out of it, and some NPC adventurer instantly turned me and half my inventory to ashes with a huge fireball.
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>>50563154
F
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>>50563154
Welcome to Elin, it can get pretty wild here.
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How is this thread still alive? Usually it does at 300..? I don't actually know how this site works at this point.
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>>50562978
you would not want to have anti-magic on Y'molonac since it fucks with the healing
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>>50563154
Umimyaaa...
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>>50563258
We are running on the Fumes of Lulwy's Wind farts and Jure's Mercy
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>>50562346
I hope Noa adds more Multiverse Manis, I want a corruptor or Despoiler Mani and maybe a Gay Mani who loves animals instead of Machines but uses his gift to make prosthetics for people and animals.
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>>50563258
We can't sleep tonight, I'm afraid
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>https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/14563789070767554528/51E0FEF89DE23EE1F1090C28209B0146CB4D5632/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false
Damn wtf that looks great
I'm still living in a shitty wooden box
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>>50563346
>his box is made of wood instead of grass
well well well, looks like we got us a big fancy man here
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>>50563346
>wooden box
We don't take kindly to city folks around these parts...the only bawx we need are shippin' crates made outta carbon (palulu's for faggots)....
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If the seeker loves sharing knowledge so much why won't he teach me lightning sword
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>>50563346
Very cool, one thing I'm always very conscious of is pathways being blocked by rooftops. It's a degree comfier being able to explore with roofs on and see all the wall/roof deco as you run around. I almost wish noa redesigned all the towns to avoid roofs getting in the way
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>>50563380
That or enabled camera rotation so you can swap angles
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Does this do anything other than act as a light source?
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>>50563359
Because sword spells were given to underperforming elements: darkness, fire and poison, which everyone and their mother resists, and magic which a lot of enemies have gained resistances to compared to Elona and which has no elemental effect.

Electric is a top tier element with vast swathes of enemies having innate -10, few resisting enemies, and a special 1.5 multiplier with wet. It doesn't need a player-facing sword.
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Nasma is such a god builder in this game, wtf.
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My black angel just randomly stopped getting her gene inserted for the second time, she's just walking around the base with it in her inventory, no explanation. I've never done gene editing before.
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>>50563632
So many rox, I just saw how someone used the big ones to make a comfy looking hotspring, now I see the rockcraft goes even deeper.
The rocky roadside looks nice, I was having trouble figuring out how to do a halfway upkept road before. There's even just Rock:The Item dropped all about too.
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>>50559814
Guess what anon
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>>50563696
Yeah a generous use of Rock, Pebble, Paved stone and the bigger Rock... damn man its just nuts my craft-tech-science will never be able to keep up with the sheer ingenuity and abject creativty (and perfect-imperfect placement of the doodads). Makes me feel so wholly inadequate....
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>>50563632
Wait, you can learn to build the mine-able and debris rocks that you find in the wild?
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>>50563693
Happened to me with my Android, I looked and I was at like 259/260 power so I put it down to a tick where the power didn't meet demand, maybe a sequencing issue assuming something didn't die.

Put down another generator and it proceeded. Please share your own power expenditure and if possible power supply via resident job.
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>>50563751
I did think of that but I have almost 200 spare power.
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>>50563632
too many rocks
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>>50563793
I assume so but is less than 200 of that provided via residents?

The other thing I've wondered is do hostiles break it like they break "stay in this spot", should be easy enough to test that and to control for it if so.
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>>50563796
Convert your hill cave into a dwarven rock fortress NOW
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Both got added huh
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>>50563693
this happened to me but then I killed myself and reloaded my save, and voila, her gene was done.
It was literally at hour 8 left before she seemingly got out of gene machine and the gene gone before i did that
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>>50563820
I'm not sure so I put in an extra generator and I'm trying again. I'll keep an eye on her.
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>>50563870
i still dont know what "the bike" is.
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>>50563820
It happened again, not sure what it was but not a power issue. Fuck.
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I guess my robot obsessed Vampire accidentally recruited the perfect companion
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>>50564420
its not a power issue
just reload your save
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>>50564445
I did, nothing changed.
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>>50564518
Maybe enemies?

Try walling off a tiny area, sticking a watchfire in and then taking the door with you maybe?

Otherwise when it's low just rest or sculpt your meat near it.
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>>50564537
It should already be way out of the way, I built my base up enough that the AI ignore each other over the edge. I was just thinking I've got those teleporters and the two tents so maybe the all that popping in and out? I'll put it somewhere safe on another base and stay off the map, annoying but it should work.
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Why does Elin have a nudity/sexual content warning on steam? I just got a whiplash because some faggot in voice chat in another game stalked my profile and asked why I have 2k hours in a porn game.
WHY does Elin of all things have sEXual content warning when it has no explicit mention or depiction of it.
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>>50564627
Eww anon has 2K hours in a game where you can sleep with with little girls...
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I took my little sister bird watching once, nothing sexual about it.
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Come on! Let's go.
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lmfao
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>>50565094
No only did I lose to Miches but I also lost to fucking Sazinail (A random dude in Vernis) who played a Roran/Elea deck.
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>>50565094
Look at this asshole actually trying to do his job.
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>>50563693
I've had that happen before as well and based on the area around the machine I can only assume it's because the character I had in it got attacked and killed by randomly spawning enemies. I moved the gene machine inside a house guarded by a strong companion and I've never had an issue with it since.
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>>50565236
>ties go to the NPC
What an Elona thing to do and also fuck you
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>>50565576
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