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Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw - Multiple links in this rentry are dead or out of date, save us Anon!
New child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki
Elin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
Elin Modding resources/code: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin.Docs
https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-Decompiled

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Well shit!
I was a minute off
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>>50628235
You put the subject in the name field.
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It's s'over.

Also, is there any reference to the distance between the various landmasses in the world of Elona/Elin? I rolled an Eulderna and wondered how far their kingdom was from the playable area.
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>>50628323
Here's an old Elona-era map, Eulderna is on the southern continent.
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>>50628460
Guess I have to add Mar Nys Fara to my lexicon now...
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>>50628460
Is it trhe that palmia/mysila is undeveloped medieval / feudal bumfuckstan while they're mostly modern everywhere else?
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>>50628460
It's fun to think about how Palmia seems to be one of the biggest countries along with Yerl, Eulderna, and Juere, yet on the ground it comes across like a poorly-managed semi-wilderness backwater, and Norlanders (the main race of Palmia) is too irrelevant to be worth being playable.
>>50628468
Yerl is highly advanced and scifi, and Eulderna is an ancient highly magical wizard society where magic and some magitech are common. But we don't know what the tech level is like for any other nation bar them and Palmia.
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>>50628460
Take me to mayroon, noa. I demand more winter comfiness
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>>50628477
Sadly there's no way we'll ever get to see anything but Palmia.
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Milk. Make it into cheese or stew?
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>>50628471
Palmia is a breakaway kingdom from Mayroon to gaurd Lesimas and to end the war between Myroon, Juere, and Zanan who all wanted to control Lesimas because they believed it contained something important as all text and research in the Nefia pointed back to Lesimas.
It wasn't until Eulderna intervened, studied Lesimas, lied and said nothing was in there and created Palmia as a buffer nation under the guise of ending the war to protect Lesimas and continue the lie that there was nothing found in it.
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>>50628270
>My bait and my patronage to Anon's ramen shack made it in.
cool
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>>50628471
>Norlanders (the main race of Palmia) is too irrelevant to be worth being playable.
It's less that and more the storyline assumes you came from somewhere else, chargen even is flavoured as you filling in an immigration form.

Having the pc be a foreigner is an excuse for all kinds of explanations and hence getting info across to the player. The pc being a native would not just know all this, but would also be expected to have preexisting roots and connections a foreigner doesn't.

Not that it wouldn't be fun to have a hometown or something, but "dude in another land" is the easiest plot device.
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Which race are niggers? also why are there no nigger portraits?
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>>50628569
Is Mayroon also an irrelevant backwater shithole?
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>>50628471
We know a little, like we know that Juere is a literal shithole, Zanan is more of a traditional fantasy kingdom, we don't know anything about Lothria and they seem to be the Switzerland of Tyris and keep to themselves.
Karune was fantasy Japan but was destroyed by the etherwinds.
Vindale has a forest were the Elves live and the etherwinds are said to originate from there.
Yerls is basically the cyberdome but the whole continent, think of it as fantasy America.
We know nothing about Cyronia and Faso
The only nation we know about on Mar Nys Fara is Eulderna and they are basically fantasy Russia because all they do is power project.
Kardia is also completely unknown other than Monterniberre might be a Hispanic or Spanish analog if we go by the name.
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>>50628284
sorry, I'm phone posting rn
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>>50628586
One wonders if Karune will get rebuilt after Vindale is burnt down. The new forest seems to be in Zanan instead of where the old one was.
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>>50628468
If you read the extra material on the Japanese lore wiki and check the art book, there are some hints here and there, like Zanan using genetically engineered manticores as attack beasts or them exporting armaments and medicine, as well as Saimore's research institute. Alternatively, the Mayroon palace is supposedly carved into a glacier, which says something about the level of engineering and technology needed to do that.

It's a whole bunch of inference and mostly a combination of schizo tech so common to JRPGs, but some informed guesses can be made.
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>>50628583
We don't really know much about Mayroon other than it seems to be able to take on both the Kingdom of Juere and Zanan just fine on its own and part of the reason Eulderna dismantled them was probably because they were the biggest threat on the continent to them so it makes sense to make a puppet nation on their borders and have a reliable ally like Zanan watch over the area while they war with the Yerls.
>>50628591
That's a good question, I know that a lot of refugees ended up in Mayroon and Palmia, I assume a lot of the Karune are scattered around the world as refugees. It could be that they are unable to rebuild Karune at all or how much of the forest burnt down since Vindale forest basically engulfed Karune after the population fled.
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>>50628599
Well all we know about the post-plot world is that Zanan got partially split into Rosuria, which has apparently totally went to shit because the other major powers like Eulderna and Yerles ruined it like they've ruined everything else on the planet. Whether anyone's rebuilding Karune is something we'll never know, just like we'll never know if Mayroon will try to retake Palmia with Zanan crippled. World's just doomed to implode again at some point.
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>>50628605
Who knows, Mani can apparently time travel so maybe in the future there might be a questline or DLC or additional update that allows us to travel to the world post Elona and see what happenes?
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Is there a way to be a vampire without having the not being able to eat normal food drawback?
Vampires sound interesting, and while I've heard blood sucking is better than normal food I want to care about food.
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>>50628723
Putting ketchup on meals works at the expense of a seasoning slot.
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>>50628235
So is this game basically just a second life-cultivation hybrid for schizophrenic weebs?
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>>50628785
Kinda sorta not really, think of it as an immersive sim with RPG elements or an ARPG with life sim elements. It's very flexible with what you want to do with it, right now in ElonaE+CGX I'm basically playing yugioh, I'm walking around the world challenging people to a children's card game and I banish enemies to the Shadow Realm (aka they turn into cards) and I am defeating friendly NPCs and taking their best card.
Or you can play Harvest Moon and never leave your base, or you can play it like a traditional RPG... Or you can just have a harem of wives and impregnate them its up to you.
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New toy to try:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3654045613
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>I ended up spending too much time in AntiGravity. From February, I plan to pick up the update pace again
Noa embraces vibe coding sloppa now
it's over
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>>50629043
It's like how everyone uses mods in Elin. Everyone does it, and if you don't, you're left behind.
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>>50629043
The code can't get much worse anyways. If anything, this might actually improve things.
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>>50629043
Ano save us
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>>50629043
>>50629058
It boils down to whether you're using the glorified chatbot to replace or augment your understanding while you work, whether you understand what's going on or not.

Now, 99% of humans are lazy shits looking for the easiest fix, so I expect it all to go down the tubes as a massive net negative. But for the few conscientious enough to choose the latter, it can work as a powerful force multiplier. As Mia remarked on his Twitter, he did six months of work in a day.

Of course, every monkey in the first category imagines himself in the second.
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>>50629043
what's antigravity
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>>50629196
A 'tard wrangler for AI to get them to perform coding/creative tasks. All for $120 for the first 3 months. What a steal!
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>>50629007
Why must you displace the brontosaurus?
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The hardes thign about Elona is struggling with the limited amount of space 4th dimension spaces and freezers give you.
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the hardest thing is elona is my dick buried inside of sheena
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bruh
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>>50629505
Well everyone hated the last collage. This anon had to upstage them somehow, and performed perfectly for the rest of it.
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>>50629520
I don't think people hated the last collage it just had criticism and the guy was new.
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>>50629621
It was the horse wasn't it
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>>50629626
I don't mind umaanon, he shouldn't be posting 20 updoots a thread but posting once or twice about his progress I don't see a problem with.
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I Became a Famous Adventurer, but The Only Companion That Fell In Love With Me Was My Horse
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>>50628723
Blood packs are technically a type of soup
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Was told this thread was at the cutting edge of pixel art gens last year, could someone give me a quick TL;DR? I want to generate textures for another game (though I do have some idea for Elin on the back burner) but I don't want to immediately buy into Retro Diffusion or whatever if I can help it.
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>>50629659
>but The Only Companion That Fell In Love With Me Was My Horse
KIMI NO AIBA GA
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>>50629666
Caterpillar my balls lmao.
Makes me want to build a cocoon or starfish.
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>>50629262
What? Why pay money for that? Public AIs can do that stuff, and you're going to have to double-check their output anyway.
...Also, does this mean that Elin art is going to stop being ruined by an "anti-AI" filter?
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>>50629805
>What? Why pay money for that? Public AIs can do that stuff, and you're going to have to double-check their output anyway
public AIs are retarded most of the time. Probably on purpose too so that you get to subscribe their shit
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get bant retard
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>>50630122
You okay anon?
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>>50629791
just learn2pixel art bro
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>>50629805
>does this mean that Elin art is going to stop being ruined by an "anti-AI" filter
no, using ai is only allowed if noa does it
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>>50628235
>Subject in the name field
No wonder the thread didn't get highlighted.
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Anybody know the spawn ID for elixir of gene?
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>>50630168
1252
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>>50629043
>>50629063
>>50629139
AI is a multiplier. If you suck at coding (or if you just let it do everything), it'll suck 10x more.
If you're disciplined in how you use it (Boilerplate code, single task focused functions) and are able to understand the code/review it/refine it, it can help speed things up.
Key part though is you really have to understand things first.
>>50629805
For some people it's just a fun toy
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>>50630157
Hmmmm
no.
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So Elin is dead because noa is going to slop it instead of actually making the game?
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>>50630338
Elin is dead because we still can't worship Yakasha.
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>>50630345
This tbqhdesu, where are my worshippable Negentropy gods?
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>>50630345
You'll never get her because of the slop, anon.
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>>50630345
sorry anon, only real special boys can worship Yakasha like that one robot
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>noooo you can't AI slop images!
>ai translations are okay though!
>ai code is okay though!
>its okay when I ai-steal/gen others code, but dont you dare train ai on MY art
retarded. why can't everyone be like me? AI for strictly personal, non monetary use. be it for modding or jerking. no I'm not going to pay for anything using ai.
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>>50630350
When you use your backer wish to actually fulfil the wish bounty when he put out a call on the kickstarter for people to help him design them with their wishes.

Oh wait, no one except maybe the foxshit backers did.
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>>50630345
Stinky waifu never ever.
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>dungeon management minigame
>making multiple parties like euro truck simulator that either automatically explore based on your preferences or you have to send them to dungeons
these are never happening btw
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>>50630464
Pretty sure none of the stretch goals are happening.
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>>50630476
money stolen...
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>>50629647
Maybe Umaanon wasn't the problem. Maybe we're just not posting our progress enough...
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>>50630661
I haven't played the entire week. I had just got back from work finally for the weekend and got to try my hand making a collage then this OP faggot fucked it all up.
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>>50630661
I don't feel like I'm making any progress in the last 50h, it's neverending grind of lv195 dungeons
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>>50630661
i have not played the game for months personally i just come to this place because i love people here
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Any reason not to just make literally every tool out of rubynus once you get enough mining to dig casino walls?
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>>50629803

he be ballin
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>>50630710
no
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>>50630661
I mean, I've been making steady progress on making a nice-ish cave....
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Buff fairy's weight limit.
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>>50630749
no
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>>50630749
Are you stupid?
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>>50630749
Bro your 500 feather scrolls? Your mana battery? Your +Casting paper gear?
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>>50630830
There's already many workarounds for Fairy
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>>50630710
Because you can make them out of ether once you made a rubynus hammer.
The furry on the tinker's camp literally gives away ether moongates.
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Ovens and cooking stations catching on fire when you absolutely cock up a dish so bad with your dogshit chef "skills" that you fucking ignite the entire kitchen will never stop being peak comedy
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what is the boat even for
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>>50631131
Decoration. Yeah it sucks, you should be able to sail rather than needing to swim, it would make a base next to the Little Garden for going to Port Kapul or one on the beach east of the Meadow (where the game all but asks you to throw down your second land deed) for Lumiest actually pretty cool.
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>>50630952
I was roasting an egg in my campfire and it fucking exploded right next to my grass house. All campfires go in the corner next to the pond now.
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>>50630952
I lost 30 karma when the egg i microwaved in palmia exploded. I don't understand how my 30+ cooking skill could possible fuck up a hotspring egg recipe of lvl 8 so badly.
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sex with snow leopard sister
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>>50631529
are you retarded?
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>>50631529
Anon....you literally nuked a poor guy's house to cook an egg....you're a monster....
At least you didn't kill any cats, otherwise you'd be beyond redemption
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Vampires can drink their own blood as free food?
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>>50631902
How?????
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>>50631907
peppers by default have 9 mag potency
9
+7 (random eugenics bonus)
-1 (stacking debuff)
= 15
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>>50631912
Oh damn, guess I never really touched a pepper.
But that's just potency, where do you get the exp?
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>>50631917
u ca turn it into seasining i guess
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why does the mount speed calculation change with every nightly build wtf. I went 1040 to 700 on my broomified flower
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So what workshop NPCs do you guys like?
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>>50631991
Fat ass!
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>>50631995
Eh I just have the Touhou adventurers and not much else.
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>>50631529
Please don't try cooking an egg in your microwave in real life and report back how it turns out.
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I FUCKING HATE SCARABS SO GODDAMN MUCH IT'S UNREAL
WHY DO THEY KEEP FUCKING REPRODUCING AT MACH 5 LIKE RABBITS
FUCK YOU MANI
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>>50632313
Just swarm bro, what's the problem?
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When does converting into a vampire get added?
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>>50632436
When he adds converting into a Lich.
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>>50628270
Forgot to add my time
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>>50632313
You haven't seen irl scarabs have you? There's a reason that early 1900s Egypt literally used chemical weapons in their caves and tombs.
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>>50628578
Juere but you if you mean actual black people they either don't exist or they live on Kardia
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Who the fuck is this?
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>>50632758
Juere are quite literally gypsies.
>"If even the moon steals its light from the sun, then why can't a Gypsy steal to feed his family?"
They're steal, fraud and sell drugs, but they are nowhere near as bad or violent as actual niggers, miles better than dirty jeets or braindead muslims.
At least, they have a sense of honor (to their own tribe, not sure if this applies to outsiders) and known for their singing, dancing and so on. They stick to their tribe and avoid assimilation, but do not try to destroy the countries where they live.
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>>50632919
>They're steal, fraud and sell drugs, but they are nowhere near as bad or violent as actual niggers, miles better than dirty jeets or braindead muslims.
>giant clans of thieves as well as an intricate web of tribes that creates a clusterfuck of allegiances doing indirect warfare and stealing from each other isn't bad
It's literally Somalia minus the religious tensions.
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>>50632930
Not to get political, but the same thing happened in Sudan and it got so bad that South Sudan actually managed to gain independence (They were a Christian minority) and is now actually doing better than Sudan itself.
But during lead up to and the civil war that followed it was basically very messy web for many tribes, clans, governments, and religious orders as they take oaths pretty seriously and there were people who did have a crisis of faith vs. loyalty. The chaos was so bad that eventually people kicked into survival mode and just picked a side and honestly it some how managed work out once a bunch of people died.
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>>50632758
If we take Eulderna as Arabia, then the sub-saharan region is in the southern ummapped region. Aka niggers don't exist.

There is one dark-skinned adventurer sprite and it's more Indian than anything imo.

>>50632919
>Juere are quite literally gypsies

Nomadic, like colorful decor, "freedom loving" and "fiercely independent", often get into thievery and crime, good at performing, etc

Sounds like it.
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>juere
>jure
>jewre
>jew
i'm nooticing
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>>50632881
you don't recognize the great Afvy?
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>>50633188
Doesn't help that Jure considers the Juere her people because they were sick as fuck before she healed them. Even after healing them, they became a fucking blight on the world while Jure just dusted off her hands and considered it a job well done. Kinda ironic that Jure's chosen people, who took on her name, are also irredeemable thieves.
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>>50633282
That would be within her arch for her to heal a viral population of anti-bodies, mistakenly thinking she cured a disease, and then let that viral population proliferate and bring even more disharmony into the world.
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200 hours in a save and i havent done a single nefia
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>>50633619
It could be worse, like never making it out of the tutorial because you keep restarting
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>>50633667
Just commit anon
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>>50633282
Just further proof that Jure is the main villain of Elin and that killing her retard ass would be a net positive for humanity as a whole
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>>50633703
Why would you want to kill Noa's waifu like that?
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>>50631529
Microwaved eggs have a static failure chance that's unaffected by cooking skill. And that's good because it's useful for mining.
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>>50630661
I've been busy with some other stuff lately, but I can at least post the build I made a while back. A mesoamerican pyramid structure! I filled the place with various undead from Ally scrolls and a <<<Pursuer>>> as my proverbial head priest. I'm gonna keep posting updates as I get neat things, but right now there's been fuck-all.
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>>50633148
>>50632919
Real shame Jure showed mercy to these people.
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I think when Noa was designing the Juere his thoughts were "these guys are like adventurers, as a race!" and didn't really think about how absurdly awful these people would be as an entire population.
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>>50634081
Mind you, Juere is always the default race when you make a new character.
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>>50634111
It just works if you think about it from that perspective. Everything the Juere are said to do or said to value is what the stereotypical adventurer does or values, and them being the most generic baseline 'balanced' race reinforces it. The issue comes in when Adventurers make up for being annoying thieving hobos by doing quests and helping out townsfolk, whereas being helpful to host populations is NOT something the Juere are known for, as a race. That's the one part that's not spread to the whole population, but it's unfortunately also the only thing that makes people tolerate Adventurers.
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Noa should add a giga mimic.
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Stop talking shit about my goddess Jure.
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>>50634452
She really should've let the Juere die.
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>>50634459
I don't even know with race it is, I always plays as Elea for some reason.
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>>50634462
If you're racist, just say so
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>>50634541
worse, I though to myself "oh this is elf archetype race, but its not squishy as fairy, cool"
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Wish I was as cool as my defender apostole.
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>>50634462
>>50634561
>elea players are just as deranged and racist as the actual elea are
I'm happy we burned down Vindale Forest... It was deserved.
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>>50634767
If we are talking about bad the Juere are, I still can't get over that the Elea just watched the Etherwind destroy a whole nation next to them and didn't warn them and didn't attempt to help in any sort of way then are surprised pikachu face when it blows up in their face.
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>>50634777
Elea are retarded and autistic.
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Any way to convert materials to grass tufts for autistic grass colours?
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>>50634777
It's funny because Elin so far leans really hard into the "Elea are totally in the right and innocent with how they act" angle while ignoring any legitimate grievances the humans have.
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>>50634789
Autistic people written by autistic author.
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>>50634784
Just dye, anon
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>>50634779
>>50634789
They are worse because they knew about the Etherwind before anyone else and didn't care, didn't tell anyone, didn't bother researching it because it didn't directly harm them.
It goes on to destroy a whole fucking Human nation and ONLY AFTER when the global stage catches wind of it do they then suddenly take an interest in the Etherwind and talking to other nations about it.
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>>50634812
You can dye a stack of items by throwing dye on top of them, right?
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>>50634882
Elean politics falls into 1 of two camps:
>"I hate humans lets be isolationists"
>"I don't hate humans but they are not to be trusted, lets be isolationists."
That's it, that's the only thing they argue about in their society is if you should hate humans or not and how much contact with them is considered tolerable.
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>>50634779
>>50634789
>>50634791
>>50634882
The worst thing is that Saimore really didn't need to have to lie about the Elea, they kinda hang themselves with their own inaction then plead, whine, and moan that its racist to hold them to account for a genocide that happened due to their negligence.
Have you noticed that we never talk about the Dwarves in the setting? Because the Dwarves do isolationism correctly where they literally keep too themselves and mind their own business and humans are way less racist towards than the Elea.
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>>50634916
There's barely any dwarves to begin with.
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>>50634928
I know it's great, they stay in their mountainhomes and don't adventure around being dicks to people like the Elea do. Nor do they create a fucking terror cell of race revenge militants after something bad happens to them, like the Elea.
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why are you people acting like they could just turn the wind off
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>>50634944
Let's put it in real world terms, let's say your on a ship and you can see a really bad storm coming to you, but you currently aren't in it and once it gets to your current spot, you'll be long gone and past it.
Now let's also say, you know there is another ship behind you using the same shipping lane and you know that they are going to get caught in the storm and it could potentially be dangerous if they didn't know ahead of time. Would you radio them? Most people would, the Elea... Didn't... Because it didn't effect them.
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>>50634882
>ONLY AFTER when the global stage catches wind of it do they then suddenly take an interest in the Etherwind and talking to other nations about it
Actually not even then, they went to tell Palmia's king (a Eulderna puppet state) and only Palmia's king about what was going on so that when that guy got killed they literally had no fucking backup plan to try and inform the other countries. They only started blabbing openly about the Etherwind after Vindale was completely burnt down and the Elea reduced to a few refugees and the humans put them on trial because shit suddenly got even worse without the Etherwind.
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>>50634916
But anon, Ashland says it's the evil humans who are at fault for thinking the Elea owe them anything.
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>>50634944
How would you feel if etherwind affected you yesterday?
I know it does not affect you, but let's say HYPOTHETICALLY.
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>>50634944
Nobody (in this thread, not in-setting) is blaming the Elea for the Etherwind, we know they don't cause it. Their fault is in not telling the humans what the Etherwind was, why they shouldn't burn down Vindale, or providing any help to Karune.
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Honestly fuck every race, turn everyone into a robot and you'd basically have world peace. No more war, no more famine, no more racism, no more isolationism, everyone would be chill
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I want long-ears to hold my hand and babysit me on every step.
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>>50634956
Well it doesn't help that they went full jihad and created the Avengers of Elea and started doing random acts of violence against Humans cause their special magical forest got torched.
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>>50634962
Ashland is also friends with Loytel, so he probably took one too many rocks to the head and its the brain damage talking.
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>>50635011
Ano's Fanfiction
Act 2 is non canon
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Bros we went over this
Elea didn't even know shit before Saimore told them and by then it was already too late because he mostly got entire world against them. When they tried to look for proof of meshera, it was already gone.
The only actual thing they could have maybe done was go to Yerles but whether they would belive them is another topic. Best case scenario would probably them starting a new world war.
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>>50634991
a winter putit?
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>>50635017
It's honestly in their character to do something like that considering what they allowed happen to Karune.
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>>50635026
I don't think noa intended there to be enough Elea left to run a big terrorist organization.
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>>50635019
It's confirmed the Elea knew because it was mutating the animals and they were growing to monstrous sizes in the forest, but because the animals weren't aggressive to them they didn't do anything about it. The only think you could argue is that they didn't know about Karune because they are so autistic and reclusive that they never bothered checking if their neighbor was still around? But even then, they knew the forest was growing faster as well, which means they've been to the edge of the forest to check on it. So I find it hard to believe they didn't know Karune died. Allegedly there are Elea that live outside and around VIndale Forest as well.
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>>50635040
>But even then, they knew the forest was growing faster as well, which means they've been to the edge of the forest to check on it.
I think Elona specifically mentions that the deep forest overgrew and became dark and foreboding, so they most likely noticed the forest was overgrown as the canopy started to block the light of the sun from hitting the forest floor.
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>>50635030
Terrorist organization is a bit hyperbolic on my end, they could have been radicalized lone actors but again, I think its within the Elea's nature to do so as Loimas shows that the Elea have this twisted hatefulness for Humanity.
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>>50635040
Yeah but not like they could do anything to stop it. Karune would have knew it keeps growing on their own.
Like maybe you could argue they could come help them evacuate or something but I feel the general outlook would be the same with them allegedly causing it
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>>50635063
>I think its within the Elea's nature to do so as Loimas shows that the Elea have this twisted hatefulness for Humanity
There is nothing twisted about hating people who burned your home to the ground dude
I get that most people here are autistic but damn
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>>50635084
>There is nothing twisted about hating people who burned your home to the ground dude
Watch what Loimas does and says in Act 1, he makes it very obvious that he hates Humanity, thinks that coming to is a waste of time, and does nothing be deride and dehumanize (heh) the humans around him.
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>>50635084
Vindale hasn't been burnt down at the start of the game, anon.
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>>50635092
>thinks that coming to is a waste of time
thinks that coming to Palmia is a wast of time*
>and does nothing be deride and dehumanize
and does nothing but deride and dehumanize*
Sorry I've been drinking.
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>>50635098
>thinks that coming to Palmia is a wast of time*
He wasn't wrong.
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>>50635102
He wasn't but he had the wrong reasons for why it was a waste of time.
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>>50635066
In the lore the Elea are immune to the etherwind due to them being a magical race, so they could have helped with the evacuation, they could have coordinated the evacuation of Karune, they could have helped people move stuff and loved ones. They could tell people to abandon what they were doing and run for shelter and they could then bring the stuff to them? They could have fed and given water to shelters that had none or were running low, they could have gone and fetched family members who were too slow, too old, or too young to reach the shelter in time. There's a lot they could have done but they didn't.
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>>50635164
Isn't that expecting level of morality that doesn't exist in the setting? If other nations did that it would 100% be because it profits them not from goodness of their heart.
Also from the position of Karune I don't know if I would have trusted a random elf that came out from a forest he lives in, that is constantly expanding to bring my stuff or gives me water.
I don't remember but do Elea even have any form of national level government that could even organize shit like that?
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>>50635235
>Isn't that expecting level of morality that doesn't exist in the setting?
>I don't know if I would have trusted a random elf that came out from a forest he lives in
Good point but also sitting there and doing nothing is obviously very suspicious as well.
>that is constantly expanding
It's growing fast due to the Etherwind, as the trees in the forest are imbued with ether
>I don't remember but do Elea even have any form of national level government that could even organize shit like that?
I could be wrong, but I think they have a sort of Council like the Elves in LoTRs did, basically full of accomplished wizards, scholars, and wise old Elea.
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I feel like the only real way to solve the Etherwind problem for good is to find some way to remove modern people's reliance on mutated Meshera parasites for their immune system.
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Id consider anyone willing to believe I was a money lender out of oppression subhuman cattle too. No pity for those who aren't even trying.
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>>50635293
But what would work, though? Even full machines and a pile of rock and dirt coming to life as a golem waifu does not give them immunity to the Etherwind, considering what the Etherwind actually is
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>>50635271
>Good point but also sitting there and doing nothing is obviously very suspicious as well.
True. I just think they were already fucked no matter what they would do, even stuff that would go against their isolationist culture.
Having to deal with low view of their race after the ww, mixed with the etherwind you would need to pull some miracles for other nations to trust you. And that would also require the miracle of changing their culture after they became isolationists.
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>>50635271
The Elea didn't help humanity most likely due to the persecution they faced before the game takes place. When we start playing Elona, a giant re-migration back to Vindale occurred from all human nations, especially Zanan as Prince Saimore royally declared the Elea to be responsible for a calamity known as "Rem-Id" (which as far as I know was never explained) and that the Elea should be eradicated and the forests to be burned.
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>>50635307
>But what would work, though?
Beat gods into submission so they use their godlike power for benefits of mortals for once
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>>50634984
That's actually a good point, is Mani human supremacist and only wants to turn humans into machines or does he want to turn all sentient life into machines?
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>>50635307
The Golems become fleshy when animated so that's what makes them susceptible I guess.
>What would work
More horrible genetic engineering just like in the era that created this shit.
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>>50634984
>turn everyone into a robot and you'd basically have world peace
No you'll have retarded robots that worship other gods. You would need to eradicate all free will for world peace
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>>50635309
The Elea were already hated by then because they actively refused to honor the treaties they had to help people against Eulderna when they were trying to conquer the world.
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>>50635320
They become fleshy, sure, but why do they still weigh like 700kg after?
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>>50635309
>Rem-Id
All you need to know if you're concerned about spoilers is that it is a massive explosion that made a sizable portion of South Tyris uninhabitable and ether-tainted. Think of it as magical radiation.
>>50635324
>get into a bunch of treaties because it benefits them
>"What do you mean we have to help you?"
Elean move/10
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>>50635357
>a massive explosion that made a sizable portion of South Tyris uninhabitable and ether-tainted.
And why did Noa just say this in the cutscene and not at least show this in game? That sounds awesome!
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Puny humans just cannot cope with Elea supremacy.
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>>50635472
I'm at the point where I don't know if this is AI, photoshopped, or if that one image of the laughing elf at the gnome has way more lore than I originally thought.
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Anyone actually manage to kill the shrine maiden? She seems impossible
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>>50635494
Its ancient photoshop. But yeah, it is *That* picture of elf.

And it perfectly describes my reaction when Etherwind hits human village.
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>elean remigration
>giant magical explosions with radiation
>multiple wars going on
>etherwind
>a whole country destroyed with a touch of genocide
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>tons of refugees in North Tyris
When you think about it, its a really turbulent time for Irva, we only have a fraction of that happening IRL and everyone is freaking the fuck out.
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>>50635499
>>50635501
ELEAN-MADE ETHERWINDS
WATCH THE MILLIONS DIE
LARGEST FOREST GROWTH IN THEIR LIVES
THIS IS ELEAGGEDON

ZANANIAN PRINCES NEVER LIE
KING OF PALMIA JUST DIED
MORE THAN WAR, ITS GENOCIDE
THIS IS ELEAGEDDON

WELCOME TO THE CHAOS OF OUR TIMES
11TH OF SIERRA TERRE, WHAT A VIBE
PRAY WE MAKE IT OUT ALIVE
THIS IS ELEAGEDDON
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New game plussu!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3655459421
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>>50634882
>>50634916
They're not wrong though.
They have no obligation to help. No one has any obligation to help. You could argue that it's morally good to choose to help and you'd be right, but it's not morally bad to not help.
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What does the message "A new story has been added" in Elin mean?
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>>50635699
Realpolitik doesnt actually mean that diplomacy isn't real. It merely constraints it.
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Are Gold Bells still good pets in Elin? Got a chance to snag one but don't want to waste the ball.
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The time has come for us humans to prosper.
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>>50635924
Why are snails like this
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>>50636006
They have yet to realize they are not human.
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>>50635924
t. Derphy stray cat
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>>50635924
I'm very much into economics!
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I have found an Elin tuber
his voice is nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM3LrNneL_Y

Not sure why or how people with so few views continue with this endeavor tho
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>>50636104
>heya_guitar.ogg
Now I'm interesting in hearing this
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I have a mil in my bank in elona+. What do i do with it besides investing in a black market mechant? already set up a shop, ranch, farm, truck.
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>>50636056
Ask the guy who did the "Good Eats". He had some mysterious benefactor give him a complete computer setup just so he could play Fallout New Vegas in the voice channel every day and stop making content. Surely this mysterious benefactor exists exclusively for those making "quality" Elin content, and allows these low-view youtubers to survive.
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>>50636124
Land battleship, obviously
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>>50636164
I have a mil in the bank, not that my income is now steady enough for that 200k monthly maintenance of the ship so that seems excessive. Also is it better to look for armor with a ton of dv/pv on it than armor that gives really potent buffs?
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>>50636206
I just pick up armor as I go and it worked for me lol and I personally prioritized dv/pv over stats. But I also play a farmer that casts spells and shoots guns.
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Why are there no half races in Ylva?
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>>50636396
mixing bad
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>>50636396
Kumiromi would shit himself trying to figure out how a Yith-Bike hybrid or an Elean Golem is supposed to work
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>>50636396
There is, its just they take the race of the Mother and if your the PC you always produce a human even if you are a snail and your wife is a golem for mechanical reasons.
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>>50636396
There are. Off the top of my head, demigods are one example.

Sometimes a mixture is distinctive enough to be its own thing.
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Do you guys read Palmia Times sometimes?
I think it's pretty funny to see
>died from overwork in Meadow "wtf happened"
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>>50636666
Sometimes, wish Noa would fix the broken apostrophe and other errors though
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>>50636666
nyou nyoo talk funny!
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Noa fixed the welcome backy greeting?
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>>50636983
no....
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>>50636983
You assume there's anything to be "fixed" to begin with.
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>>50637238
I think anon is worried it's not Welcome Backy anymore.
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I finally made my first booze and first non-grass wall 150 days into the game, I'm moving retardedly slow and being way too scattershot but I'm moving up in the world.
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>>50637448
Just b urself
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>>50637448
I didn't even get my first farms set up until the second year
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>>50637806
I wouldn't even call what I have a farm, I've got three 5x5 plots I sometimes remember to water. It's just the starter seeds and some crim and rice I've been growing (for the booze,) but the rice keeps withering so I think I'll need to go buy more seeds.
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>>50637816
Remember to plant your rice on water
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>>50637848
On water? I planted it around the lake in the meadow. Am I supposed to put it IN the lake?
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>>50637816
>I sometimes remember to water.
shit I forgot I have to water crops
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>>50637850
I mean, you can do that but it won't look pretty
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>>50637872
Well how am I supposed to grow rice? Inside a water tile, next to a water tile, what?
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>>50637850
yes
you can also do the same with wheat for some reason
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>>50637895
Well I guess I'll change it up next time I can harvest then.
>Wheat
Yeah that is weird. The only other crop off the top of my head that'll grow in water is cranberries, which aren't in the game (crim makes me think of them though.)
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>>50637895
god i am going to make so much bread aaaaAAAHHHH! give me the seeds!
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I hate microchips and I hate kettle
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>>50638386
Pay the fee anon
You DO want to have more than one set of coralwood bones and gold threads, right?
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I wonder why Mayroon, South Tyris, and Zanan are on Elin's world map.
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>>50638600
wdym?
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>>50638654
Look at the world map when traveling, it has eastern north Tyris (the country of Mayroon,) the continent of South Tyris (all that land south of Olvina on the world map,) and the island where the country of Zanan is located (the big island to the east of South Tyris) yet none of them are visitable.
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>>50638694
I'm the Elona anon that was crying about not getting a steam gift card for xmas for Elin, but I did google it and that's actually very exciting
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I have an aesthetic design question. What would you consider the minimum acceptable for resident lodgings in elin? Pic related is what i might be considering. If i could somehow import (you) into my save file as a character, would you be satisfied with these accomodations? Importantly, i do not want some soviet era apartment block design.
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>>50638825
>kitchen, dining room and living room all in one
That's worse than most soviet era apartment block designs
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>>50638825
>aesthetic
aesthetically, that room is disgustingly small.
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>>50638386
>microchips
Bro just fucking explore nefia?
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>>50638825
I dunno, I kinda just wing it with bedrooms. Just slap a bed, a light, a table and some junk to make it feel lived in. It's the main rooms that get more attention for the most part
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I've got bunk beds with good cotton for my residents, what's the next bed I should go for?
Any way to get furniture over the cap of 7 in a trait?
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>>50638832
>>50638836
fixed it
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>>50638825
>>50638884
Yerles really live like this
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Fabled and legendary fish aren't duplicatable? I'm going to scream what's the point
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>>50638916
I think it's comfy.
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>>50638884
dystopia
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>>50638921
Yeah. I thought you could slice them to infinity but nah, it's weird, you can only get the original 3 or for some fish you can slice the slices for 9 but then it stops multiplying

Some livelies are still great for dupe food tho
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>>50638884
Kitchen in open bedroom is overpriced city apartment tier. The least you can do is close the bedroom off. Then it becomes a comfy micro home.
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>>50639274
It's supposed to be a college student house I guess.
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>>50638921
Cheese or slice/soisauce (at the cost of nutrition)
With these, you too can cook one time abominations with the guts and flesh of your ocean's bounty
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>>50638884
>that free wall sticking out
I'd honestly get rid of that but that's just me.
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I've gotten so used to how comfy this general is that I'm genuinely shocked when people insult me in other generals now, why have you ruined me E/EG?
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>>50639424
>/eeg/ or /e/eg/
I like the idea of adopting that as our tag
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Yerles priest of kumiromi would be a decent farm maxxer right? Is there a better combo for money mode?
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>>50639355
wow! thats 1(one) level! for how much time and rng and effort it takes to get those ingredients
thanks level gating and diminishing xp returns!
you're better off stacking potential on foods
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>>50639441
>Yerles
>Being anything but Mani
You aren't a race traitor are you anon?
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>>50639441
I don't know if you noticed but almost all the Yerles characters in both Elona and Elin are Mani worshippers, they are probably one of the only races that have a religions hegemony. Even the Juere worship both Ehekatl or Jure and they are named after her.
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>>50639478
>religions
religious*
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>>50639475
>>50639478
how does this help me make money
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>>50639497
Create a sexbot industry.
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>>50639497
Recruit robots, plunder the oceans for oysters and steal paintings as Mani intended
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>>50639497
>be Yerles
>pray to Mani
>???
>profit
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>>50639497
use gun to make money
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>>50639441
>Is there a better combo for money mode?
Yes but you aren't going to like it.
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>>50638825
>>50638884
I'm living in a shittier place, so I'll take it. Just put a door for the bedroom.
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Isn't the village board basically also a shop for party members?
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>>50639497
It doesn't because it's not true, being the rantings of a schizo. Fixed faith was never a thing in Elona, and a simple sweep through the wiki reveals that none of the Yerles mobs in the game have fixed faiths. Compare this to the fox villages in which all the mobs are fixed to the village's respective patron, or the fox guards and secretaries who are locked to big titty fox worship.
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>>50638857
Silk hammer method made me a bed with 10 in comfort, but this is for king's beds specifically because of its recipe requiring the bears.
Residents should be fine with 7 until you can make one
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>>50639471
Extra pointless now that lunchboxes exist. That thing better enjoy its corpse being turned into decorative pie for my hovel
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>>50640284
forgetti the spaghetti
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>>50640284
just use q7 rubynus bunk bed till you get your 1st decent king bed. I don't think prince bed is worth it
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This should be a stand alone mod.
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>>50640616
cheat mod since you don't have to dig out half a dungeon to go in
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>>50640673
>>>/v/
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>>50640680
just wish for an igloo
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Post your warehouses/workshops
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Man gold bars are really a bottleneck on me as a beginner player. I want a tent, policies, recipes... and I've got shit all ways to make stuff to throw in the chest because its winter now.
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The sax needs an actual sax song.
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>>50640824
i'll be very upset if its not the gandalf meme one
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How the fuck do I get plat??? Quests give too little
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>>50640931
Do level-scaled dungeons then, that's the only thing that gives more than music quests
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>>50640931
Chests, music quests, destroying every single vase and sack you come across
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>>50640673
Igloos are 1x1
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>>50640994
Yeah and those take a wish not a keypress
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Elona+ PTSD
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>>50641041
>tags: feral, human_on_feral, gangbang, cum_inflation, abdominal_bulge, ridiculous_fit
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>>50641305
I don't think kumiromi will like that...
maybe lulwy



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