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>>50750558
do gaijin not know morals?

Just sell it, it's free fucking money

>>50750575
Japs hate free money, they prefer earning the money the hard way so they can pat themselves on the back for being so honorable

>>50750558
>>50750561
I know you're larping as that troll from /int/, but I actually agree with these takes. Just because something is not for sale doesn't mean someone has a right to illegally access it.

Its not like we dont have feeble, impotent, cuckolds like this in the west too, like this guy for example >>50750616

>>50750616
>Just because something is not for sale doesn't mean someone has a right to illegally access it.
Actually, I have a universal, inalienable, and indivisible right to art, whose inherent value to humanity far exceeds that of the ownership to said art.

>>50750635
Very mature of you.

>>50750647
What art? Anime, manga, tokusatsu, jpop songs, and video games are not art - they're entertainment. If you want entertainment, you can access it anywhere you want - just not these pieces of entertainment that you cannot access. It might be unfair, but that's life.

"Hey can you stop breaking into my house and reading my personal letters meant for only parties that I choose to read?"
"IF YOU DIDN'T WANT ME TO BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT THEM UP FOR SALE"
"Well... if there is a demand then maybe I will in the future but I don't want to sell them to you now"
"NO YOU HAVE TO SELL THEM TO ME NOW, AT A BOOKSTORE NOT MORE THAN 50 METERS FROM MY HOUSE, NOT FOR A PRICE HIGHER THAN 2 DOLLARS, IN A LANGUAGE OF MY CHOOSING, WITH A TRANSLATION ACCORDING TO MY SENSIBILITIES; IT'S PRACTICALLY UNAVAILABLE OTHERWISE"
"Okay sure, I'll think about it, in the meantime, stop takin-"
"TAKING??? DID YOU JUST SAY TAKING?????? YOU COMPLETE AND UTTER FOOL, I. AM. MAK. ING. COP~IES. YOU STILL HAVE YOUR ORIGINAL THEREFORE IT'S OKAY"
"Yes, well, it's still illeg-"
"LAWS SCHMAWS YOUR INFORMATION WAS PROMISED TO ME 3000 YEARS AGO, IT'S MY BIRTHRIGHT"

>>50750674
>just not these pieces of entertainment that you cannot access.
But he can access them, for free.

If you don't want people to "steal" your infinitely reproducible digital data, just don't make it available to anyone?

>>50750558
Nobody, not even the work's author, has the right to proscribe the basic human decency that is sharing.

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>>50750647
>>50750699
theft of copyright material is against the law idiot
read this

japanese reactions:

They make excuses for watching pirated copies when they could get the legit versions

What really gets to me is foreigners' insane sense of entitlement. They're just way too loud. That's why we can't let any more of them into Japan. It's getting completely out of hand.

Typical of those guys who riot and loot every time something happens. It's clear they don't even recognize their actions as crimes.

They talk about respect for fans, but those watching pirated copies aren't “fans.”
Recognize yourselves as harmful stalkers.

That's pure invader mentality. No wonder coexistence is impossible

If that's the argument, then Disney and Netflix should eliminate monopolies too

They're always blaming others, that is why they can't invent or make anything worthwhile

They're fools
They're erasing works that might have been created someday from this world forever
Like a barbarian who eats the seeds before the fruit ripens

It seems foreigers will still need thousands of years to reach our moral standards
It's truly unfortunate that the system meant to prove copyright infringement has been abused

What the hell? So Americans' view on copyright isn't any different from the Chinese and Koreans after all

I simply can't understand why they'd brag about it
Then when they become victims themselves, they complain
It's not that Japan is strict—it's that overseas countries lack morals, right?

It's infuriating how many scumbags make pathetic excuses for stealing when it's clearly wrong. Before spouting outdated nonsense, they should go relearn some basic morals.

In South America and Southeast Asia, pirated versions of anime are still the norm. And on Reddit and 4chan, these idiots brazenly brag about it. What's worse, these jerks watch stolen content yet still have the nerve to critique it. They're seriously the scum of the scum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZga0AwRrYU

I don't give a shit if its moral or not. I like free stuff.

>>50750647
ベースドされた、それとも、赤い錠剤されたのでございます

/jp/ has been infected with the /v/ and /tv/ virus.

I like paying, why are they not letting me pay?

Why are Japanese otaku such pussies?

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>>50750897
>theft
Copyright infringement quite literally is not theft, so that kind of purview is incorrect from the outset. Copyright infringement laws also vary by country. Viewing them purely from your own individually localised standpoint is ignorant at best, xenophobic at worst.
>watching pirated copies when they could get the legit versions
Not always possible, not always accessible, not always available in a language I can consume. Hell, even if one does speak Japanese, many Japanese platforms outright declined overseas payments up until recently. Booth, for example.
>They're erasing works
Actually, copyright infringing archival is often the only way to preserve a work in a reliable way. See: retro ROMs.
>Americans' view on copyright isn't any different from the Chinese and Koreans
Sweeping generalisation.
>stealing
Again, literally not.
>watch stolen content yet still have the nerve to critique it
Arguably, having no financial or emotional investment makes one's opinion on a work more objective, not less.

Sad to see inhabitants of GLORIOUS NIPPON regurgitate the same tired arguments that have been debunked a thousand times in western discourse. Truly a sign of advancing globalisation.

People keep trying to make the piracy debate about morals when it's all about service
If you see a pirate site as a "service" that is competing with official stuff you will notice that people will simply gravitate towards the better option in terms of availability/quality/variety.
If there's no official option (or if the official option is shit) then people will gravitate towards the next one, and that doesn't mean they're being assholes or disrespecful of whatever, it's just human behavior.
Remember how netflix and shit almost killed piracy but then piracy came back with vengeance when streaming platforms became shit? That's it

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>>50750558
They didn't get a choice then, and they don't get a choice now.

Once you own something, you are entitled to do whatever you want with it and share it with whomever you please. Anyone who says it is illegal, immoral, or wrong to share is objectively evil.

>>50751212
>Remember how netflix and shit almost killed piracy but then piracy came back with vengeance when streaming platforms became shit?
Did it, even? I'm pretty sure that piracy is still considered scary and complicated to the average normalfag, so the majority of consumers don't even consider it. It's just a minority who actually pirate movies and games.
The only thing that normies really get involved with piracy-wise, in my experience, are those streaming services that re-host premium television channels, mostly for sports channels. And maybe comic books.

>>50750616
If a country want to have sovereignty over a land it need to station an army on it to defend it
It corp want to stop illegal distrubution of their copyrighted material then they should distribute it themself.
And imo only kind of copyright infringement by pretending to be authorised and make any kind of money from it. Modern copyright laws are gay. Scan groups that put ads on their stuffs are gay too, but it's not like they are able to surgically remove them.

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>>50750558
1. there's a demand
2. provider refuses to address demand
3. consumers find another way to fulfill demand
4. "WTF, why are they aren't consuming from me?"

or in this case, a mix of "stop enjoying things!", " it is not for you stay away!" and "piracy is stealing!". The last one is the most absurd stubborn japanese behaviour, they can't simply understand how easy and dirt cheap is creating digital copies of data. they should get into sculpting or any hobby like it.

>>50751519
Also don't forget that Japanese love exclusivity which is probably also part of the reason why they hate piracy.

>>50751248
sports streaming prices are absurd, and also they fight tooth and nail against every single pirate stream.

>>50751248
>Did it, even? I'm pretty sure that piracy is still considered scary and complicated to the average normalfag

I know people who never owned a PC that bought one of those little pirate streaming boxes running Kodi or whatever. Those things made it super easy for people who've never even heard of a torrent.

>i hate generals
The Monkey's Paw Curls..
>twitter screencap thread

pirates who feel like they have to defend themselves are much more annoying than moralfags

Itt: 12 year olds

All this effort going after people they cannot even monetize, oh Japan. Meanwhile they're not even going to try and go after these Chinese and American AI companies who shit on their silly little copyright laws and are a far bigger threat than some dude pirating Wan Piss and NTR hentai in Londonistan or Alabama could ever be.

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How would Marisa feel if she knew about your piracy habits anon?

>>50750558
foreigners are scum, some countries worse than others

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>>50750575
you can obtain product if you go to japan idiot

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>>50750897
When will the law prohibit pedophilia and sacrifice of alive human children for Israel? Kinda gross to exist in a world like that. Also I'm not taking ANYONE'S rights. My own intellectual creations are ONLINE FOR FREE, despite the attempts to ERASE MY EXISTENCE, someone who refused to vaxx or join a corrupt system.

Strange how NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THIS >>50751788 , GENOCIDERS PRODUCING DEGRADING PORN OF GENSOKYAN AND 2D WOMEN TO DEMORALIZE AND TORTURE MEN WHO OPPOSE ISRAEL! TARGETTED INDIVIDUALS WHO LOVE THEIR WAIFUS, AND ARE FORCED TO WATCH THEM BEING RAPED AGAINST THEIR FUCKING WILL! TORTURED BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO LOVE A WOMAN FROM GENSOKYO, INSTEAD OF CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS ISRAEL NEWEST GENOCIDE, BLOWING CHILDREN LIMBS, AND STARVING CHILDREN TO DEATH!!!!!!!!!! BEING FORCED TO WATCH AI EDITS OF THE WOMEN YOU LOVE BEING ABUSED WHILE THEY SAY YOU ARE IN A FEMINIST COUNTRY, BECAUSE YOU OPPOSED CHILD KILLERS. WHO THE FUCK IS PAYING FOR THAT, YOU STUPID, WORTHLESS SUBHUMANS????!!!!!!!!

NOW THAT'S WHAT REALLY FUCKING MATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!


No habéis conseguido que deje de amarlas, a ninguna de ellas, putos subhumanos violadores, genocidas de mierda. Ni que deje de ser YO

>>50750558
Intellectual property is universally gay nigger shit.

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>>50750558
>"Political economy starts with the fact of private property; it does not explain it to us." -Karl Marx
This quote was taken from a different discussion (Estranged Labor), but it's still applicable here. The idea of intellectual property (the ownership of ideas) is presupposed. It is something conjured in retrospect of the belief that artists should be compensated for their work. I agree with the latter premise (that artists should be compensated), but the latter doesn't prove or necessitate the existence of the former (intellectual property).

Another, albeit auxillary, argument would be that art created with financial incentive is estranged. Thus, intellectual property should not exist. However, the financial incentive will remain so long as we live under capitalism.

it's funny how the only reason japanese people have autonomy is because they were allowed to

>>50751892
Stay out of Japanese culture with that nonsense

>>50751884
stfu

>>50750558
Nah fuck them. Have you seen how stupidly expensive getting anime via dvd/blu-ray is?
Fuckers don't just want to sell you the product, they want to make you pay as much as they can get away with. Retarded otaku let them grab them by the balls so they think they can treat you like a retard who will bow down to their needs

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>>50751246
read this idiot >>50750897
that is low morals taker mindset

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>>50750897
L + ratio + plundered + walk the plank + you've got scurvy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I26Ql-uX6AM

They should learn from the Jews, even if they don't allow the goyim in their sacred spaces, they still allow the goyim to pay. That's why Israel controls the world while glorious Nippon stays backwards.

>>50750558
In my country accessing copyrighted material is not illegal, distributing is. From the point of law I'm doing nothing wrong.
> B-B-But morality!
Morality is subjective, What one considers an unforgivable crime can be considered acceptable or even encouraged by different people, in different place, at different time.

What I agree tho is that a lot of times ppl pirating content are beaming unnecessary sense of entitlement and pride. There's nothing heroic or special in downloading Naruto Shippuden from Torrents and announcing it to the World is retarded as fuck. Just take what you need and quietly leave, it will also keep your favorite piracy platform out of public, which obviously is fucking good thing.

>>50751830
They don't even want me to go there lmao, what the fuck you talking about? Have you seen the recent votes there?

whether I do pirate or not, the consequence is the same so I might as well do

red button nip monkey should be grateful I deign to grace their garbage media with my attention

>>50750558
Why are all the Japs on twitter so perpetually assmad? It's either that or they're total pedos. I have not seen anything in-between.

>>50754051
>the Japs
Everyone on Twitter is perpetually assmad or a pedo, not just them

>>50750558
piracy is always justified

>>50754051

>japan makes an anime or a song you like
I love Japan. Japan is so based, actually. And I really like and appreciate Japan in ways I think a lot of other people don't get. Honestly, isn't it great how Japan is? I recently took a trip to Japan. Everyone loved me, I had a great time. What a wonderful people.
>japan does anything you dont like even once
Why are all the Japs on twitter so perpetually assmad? It's either that or they're total pedos. I have not seen anything in-between.

One of the only decent replies ITT is >>50750686. I understand it's easier to think of the world in quotes and soundbytes, particularly when it lends to an argument you autowin, but framing this as piracy and saying "piracy is a service issue" implies an entitlement towards the work. The quote in is actual meaning is that if any company, creator, or etc. is upset about piracy, then it's unproductive for them to treat piracy as a problem they have no way to affect change short of lobbying for stronger legislation against piracy.

It is asinine to think it means you are entitled to anything and everything ever put out, and if they don't put it out, you can blackmail them and openly say you're going to pirate their content because they didn't make it personally available to you. In effect, you're crying that you got gatekept.

>>50750558
Whenever they say this, just point to Comiket.

>>50754452
What does Comiket have to do with it?

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Japanese people when you don't want to spend several wages worth of (currency) to go to their fuckass country which is actively attempting to keep foreigners out just so you can then purchase a game/manga/fucking whatever that you'll most likely skim through and forget in a year.

>>50754505
prease undastand

>>50754478
It has everything to do with it.

What a lot of bollocks in this thread. I've pirated plenty of content in my day but never thought I was doing the right thing, just saving money for food etc. Good. evil, legal, illegal, it's all in the mind. Either you feel bad about it or you don't - until the rights holder catches you and pins you to the wall. And get off your high horses, all of you, you're not fooling anyone with your arguments, except probably yourselves.
>>50751902
I haven't read this in ages. Good times.

>>50754537
Liar it has nothing to do with it

>>50754585
"It's clear they don't even recognize their actions as crimes."

>>50754588
Why don't the Japanese recognize their actions in WW2?

>>50754588
What does that have to do with Comiket?

>>50754599
If I have to point it out, you will be proving my first point right.

>>50754604
Don't act like you've got multiple, numbered points, all your previous posts conveyed no information at all

>>50754623
Comiket has a lot of copyright infringement.

>>50754628
OK? So what does Comiket have to do with it?

>>50754639
Pretending to be retarded only makes your point worse. If you can't connect the dots between Comiket, copyright infringement and this thread, you are genuinely retarded.
So I would rather assume you are arguing in bad faith, something which I don't want to engage with anymore.

>>50754649
You couldn't watch the short? I guess you were gatekept. It's nothing to do with copyright or IP, but it's more flattering to frame it that way if you're a gatekept retard, right?

Of course you don't want to engage with someone who won't humor your delusion.

>>50754673
Strawman fallacy.

>>50754686
Your mom gave me some strawman fellatio last night after I calmly explained to her I was willing to pay for her services and if she refused, I'd pipe her anyways and she wouldn't be able to complain about it since her refusal was a service issue.

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I both do not care and don't even think it's immoral. I do not care about intellectual property. Sorry!

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>>50754742
I think it's evil and immoral, so I'm doing it

real life is where it's at
I don't even want manga or anime, I just want to hang out and talk to real hot girls in real life, and gladly pay for their time, as it should be, as they are a valuable commodity that is way undersupplied than demand... simple supply and demand

Japanese society is set up perfectly this way

non-compliant non-natives to /jp/ should get the fuck out of here or obey

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>>50755062
>I just want to hang out and talk to real hot girls in real life
Why are you posting on 4chan /jp/ of all places, then? Many boards and even more other sites would fit you better.

>>50755062
Pro tip from a professional pick-up artist: Chicks dig GUNS. Show a girl your concealed carry and tell her to whip out her tits! Works every time!

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>>50754742
of course you do not care because you have low cultural standards idiot

>>50750558
I take every opportunity I can to dunk on Japs whether it's by stealing their intellectual property or their women. These spineless, effeminate, emasculated "people" do not deserve my empathy. Now say you're gomenasai for wasting time whining when you should be drawing more isekai slop.

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>>50750897
>all japs are soulless corporate bugmans
Ah yes. The same country who pirated the fuck out of english Transformers episodes because their Japanese dub was so bad that they had to dub it themselves.
How about the sea of Mega Man/JRPG romhacks and some jap streamer played some random old ass games released 30 years ago where it's so obscure that it never got a rerelease by the developers behind said game.
The cherry on top is their image boards uploading amount of paid images; that it's basically wares at this point.

And you otaku retards wonder why you feel oppressed by society. You're sample spaces are as short as your average indian. Never mind that Twitter is worthless to begin with.

>>50751519
Some Japanese "artists" are as bad as your average Western artists. The fact that weebs shill me that Japan is build different or it's some kind of heaven compared to the west is laughable.

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>Nooooo, you are not arrowed to resell something you paid your hard-earned money for!!!!111
Why are they like this? What's with this irrational, freak control level obsession with their creations?

>>50757162
>as short as your average indian.
Aren't Japs shorter?

>>50750558
Japs pirate shit too though
Everytime you download new release on Nyaa 90% of the peers are Japanese
Japs have developed their own p2p system like share winny and perfect dark for distributing pirated content
Japanese streamers have been getting caught using emulators to stream DS and 3DS games
The difference is that they just shut the fuck up and enjoy it, much like how it goes in the rest of the world before the age of nu-twitter and nu-youtube
Now gaijin pirates just can't help but being prideful about pirating shit and gloating about how they "own" the developers by pirating their stuff, posting about it on twitter and youtube
Nintendo consoles used to be the easiest to hack and emulate since the dawn of time until idiots starts taunting them in the switch era
Now they went on berserk and starts killing any kind of emulators and strengthen their newest system's security
I don't understand why modern internet users feel like they need to announce every little shit they do, just shut the fuck up holy shit how is that hard

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>>50751825
Which 2hu wouldn't be revolted by my tendency to pirate everything?

>>50757600
Draw between tengu, Kosuzu and Akyuu, if I were to guess. They have motivations.

>>50751825
Isn't Kirisame "book borrower" Marisa not likely to care about piracy. I imagine she would actually be quite impressed by archives (both legal and illegal ones).
>>50757600
Most of them caring or not would depend on how you describe it. Since they lack the background knowledge. The real question is which ones would be revolted.
I imagine Patche would consider it less pure than keeping a normal library. Though she still feels tempted.
Eiki and Kasen would not approve.
Chimata would consider it rude if you could have paid instead. Especially for small publishers/artists.
I can't think of anymore.
Cirno probably wouldn't understand intellectual property.
Maribel, Renko, Sanae, and Sumirenko presumably actually have opinions on piracy in canon.

>>50757600
Chen

>>50757162
Wish someone would pirate all the 80s and 90s gravure

>>50750558
>>50750561
why is a spic larping as a japanese guy

>>50757595
>Everytime you download new release on Nyaa 90% of the peers are Japanese
Exactly. It's also one of the biggest reasons Japanese game devs are obsessed with putting DRM in their games. Do you really think some greasy ass 2channel otaku cares about morals or buying stuff? Don't make me laugh.

>>50751519
fucking galapagos mentality will die when all those fucking gatekeeping boomers die too, not happening soon

>>50751788
based

I'm not going to try to justify piracy as being morally good, at least not in a blanket way. But I think if there's a digital product (or a product that can be distributed digitally), and the copyright holder does not make it available in a reasonable way, it's natural to expect people who want that product to acquire it by the means they have available. It's just human nature, and I think expecting them to deny themselves the product based on some legalistic moral sense is absurd -- legalistic I say because copyright is solely a legal mechanism. The copyright holder does not have a moral obligation to make the product available to me, but neither do I have a moral obligation to protect their copyright at my own expense.

I understand why the Japanese feel this way because they have actual creative industries that rely on creators getting paid to sustain themselves. The only equivalents we really have in the west these days are indie games and music, kinda. If you go on English learning JP YouTube they do stuff like watch English dubbed versions of anime, because there's simply nothing of interest outside of Japan to learn a non-Japanese language with.

>>50751934
It's expensive because producing an anime is expensive you stupid retard, think before you post.

>>50757931
Renko only plays FOSS versions of Quake 3, mainly to run physics tests
her Quake engine is so modified it is the equivalent to Emacs for graphics engines

>>50755090
>>50755342
this place has turned into a /v/ colony over the last few months, what were you expecting by coming here?

>>50750558
Arguably, Koreans are much more strict with their copyright, going as far as to nuke entire websites and the developers with them for daring to host a translated version of their manhwa.

>>50750897
>It seems foreigers will still need thousands of years to reach our moral standards
WW2 was not even a century ago you yellow barbarians

>>50757988
Where did you not got the 90% part here? Nigger

Japs pirate shit literally all of the time and worst of all they usually hit and run and don't even seed.

>>50759407
>don't even seed
I don't seed either lmao
I just download then done

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>>50757595
>>50757988
>>50759407
The most important thing about torrent that pirates always say is turning on VPN when you use it to hide from your ISP. And ALL VPN services in this planet has Japanese SERVERS and those are the one being used 90% of the time when you turn on VPN.

In short, all pirates uses Japanese IPs to torrent.

>>50759407
seeding is what gets you letters from your ISP.
also unless you're on a private tracker you shouldn't be seeding anyway it's just dumb as fuck to do.

>>50759534
>The most important thing about torrent that pirates always say is turning on VPN when you use it to hide from your ISP.
It's not that big of a deal becauss 1 out of 99% the government doesn't do shit unless you're in USA. Which even then it's a huge stretch. Especially when some VPNs are either expensive or just a scam anyway.

>And ALL VPN services in this planet has Japanese SERVERS and those are the one being used 90% of the time when you turn on VPN.
No? What service are you showing?

>all pirates uses Japanese IPs to torrent
Because in reality, Japan (like the rest of the world) isn't really strict when it comes to piracy. It's why you see these faggots cry, because the law doesn't care about such thing unless it's 3DPP pornography.

If you make the argument that most japanese IPs are all VPN then you should kill yourself.

>>50759746
>service are you showing
>protonvpn
Ah fuck me didn't saw it lol

>>50759538
I seed all the time in the USA and have never gotten a single letter from my ISP ever. Maybe stop torrenting Disney you retard.

>>50759746
In Japan, it's a federal crime to torrent, anon. A lot of people gets 2-10 years of prison if they are caught using torrent to pirate anything by big corporation like Nintendo. Nintendo ninjas and other scary guys like that exist and Japanese police are also helping them to capture Japanese pirates. People like you say Japanese people are pirates don't realize Japan is that horrifying about Corporations. They don't want to spend 10 years in prison so they just don't do it and play Gacha games instead or other free games.

ProtonVPN is an example that Japanese servers are cheap and all VPN companies have a lot of servers in Japan. And when people turns on VPN, they just click auto-connect and 90% of the time, it's Japanese servers they are connected to.

>>50750686
>implying breaking into a house is the same as buying a product and then making a copy of it then giving the copy to other people

>>50751830
>Dude just spend $1,200 on a round-trip flight to Japan to come to our stores when you want to buy a season of anime that still isn't even subbed in your native language
>Don't you have TIME and MONEY to burn?
No.
No I fucking don't. I'm not killing three fucking days of my time and throwing away $1,500 for a fucking BD that will take me 10 seconds to download.

>>50756635
japcels get reclinemogged by gaijinchads

>>50759803
>In Japan, it's a federal crime to torrent, anon.
>they and cops are helping capture pirates
>corpos here are horrofying :(
So is the US, dipshit. Disney hired the FBI to capture some loser on the internet for downloading recent last jedi slops. Japan isn't unique in that regard. And it doesn't paint both people as protectice, regardless how much you want to show me about some government action. Also:
>People like you say Japanese people are pirates
I'm talking about how no average jap here ever gives a shit about downloading some old video games from the 80s or some american songs (again, the insanity that is the mega man hacking scene should speak for itself). The cries are from the internet, mainly social media which is the cancer at this point.

>They don't want to spend 10 years in prison so they just don't do it and play Gacha games instead or other free games.
Gacha games are popular due to being soft-core porn addictions and gambling. It has nothing to do with piracy.

And even if we entertain the idea of someone using Jap servers. The fact that there are Japanese VPNs in the first place even if torrent is against the law.
Again, you gay's sample spaces are as short as a stick. The internet is not the reflection of the real world. Go outside.

>>50760072
Servers's renting isn't against any nations law (aside from U.S's enemies). What I'm trying to tell you guys is Japanese people are sheep that is very afraid of Corporations because they can go to jail for 5-10 years if they pirate. They are also don't know much about piracy tech or using PC for playing games because they have consoles and smartphones for Nintendo games and gacha games. Japan is a heaven for entertainment corporations because Japanese citizens are law servants (They are afraid of police).

Another thing is their entertainments over there are cheaper compare to the price for the rest of the world so there is no need to pirate. They also work in office for a long hours each day so they don't have time to spend learning about piracy technology. Actual Japanese pirates are trading USB that holds games in bar to each other to rent like those spy movies. It's like drug trade but they are renting DS or older consoles games for new members.

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>>50760168
Again, contradictions. Especially for this part:
> They are also don't know much about piracy tech or using PC for playing games
Lurk moar

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>>50760226
There is no contradiction. That's a type of games that otakus play and those people are like "True Magicians" in Japan. Japanese otakus also play western games like Tome4 so update your knowledge about the type of games Japanese otaku plays.

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>>50760314
>Japanese otakus also play western games like Tome4
>title
Ok? Westerners also play Japanese games like Ai to Yuuki Mochi.

Stop moving your goalpost. You will never be Japanese anyway.

>>50760367
Do you want to win against internet strangers, anon? Japanese people doesn't pirate because they don't need to and they are afraid of Corporations like Nintendo.

Western and other nations use Japanese VPN to torrent to hide the from the scary ISP's letters.

That's all I want to tell you, have a good day and I hope you learn something new today.

Some fun fact for you: Making an era game for Uma Musume is like making BL (Boy love) pictures of Mao Zhedong and Xi Jing Ping in Tiannanman Square.

>>50759804
>implying it's not
You have just as much sovereignty over your ideas as you do your own home, that's why we have copyright laws and someone can be criminally charged for infringing upon them, same as someone can be criminally charged for infringing upon your home.

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>>50760419
>Do you want to win against internet strangers, anon?
Well if you continue regurgitating points despite even I showed you one game from one of your retarded ideas such as:
>Japanese people doesn't pirate because they don't need to and they are afraid of Corporations like Nintendo.
>Western and other nations use Japanese VPN to torrent to hide the from the scary ISP's letters. (despite we were talking about piracy but alright)
You sure so adamant to "lecture" me about Japanese culture; despite your knowledge are surface level like any other ironic weeb. It seems that you're the obsessed one, anon.
By the way:
>That's all I want to tell you, have a good day and I hope you learn something new today.
>Some fun fact for you: Making an era game for Uma Musume is like making BL (Boy love) pictures of Mao Zhedong and Xi Jing Ping in Tiannanman Square.
You do suspiciously sound like Chinese or worse; an I*ndian. If that's the case, then I'm not even surprised.
>>50760486
>You have just as much sovereignty over your ideas as you do your own home
You're not. Ideas come and taken since the dawn of time. It's how humans developed in the first place.

>>50757595
>>50757988
The best part about this is even if >>50759534 is true. Most US pirates would download something known to them like Dragon Ball. Those rando long names getting more peers must be Japanese since they love that shit.

>>50759534
>>50759803
>all pirates use JP servers
And you think that Japs won't use their own servers? You're a fucking idiot.

>>50759538
use a vpn you mong

>>50760486
>someone can be criminally charged
Depends on where you live.
Where I live no-one it's not criminally illegal without aggravating circumstances like trying to resell in large quantity, and in civil law the precedent is copyright infringement can make someone liable for a single purchase price, not like the USA where they try to bankrupt you for downloading a movie once.

>>50756635
we hate people who do this shit outside of japan too

>>50750558
Some of the groups that make pirated copies of Japanese media are literally Japanese themselves. It’s just supply and demand. Focus on your own people before you start pointing fingers at everyone else.

>>50751248
>I'm pretty sure that piracy is still considered scary and complicated to the average normalfag
That shift was caused thanks to the stream services dominance. Spotify basically culled music piracy singlehandedly. Netflix was the reason why a lot of sharing sites became ghost sites and the torrent scene mas reduced.

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>>50751089
>>50758610
The sheer irony of you dweebs blaming this on /v/ when you're the one that's exporting this radioactive sludge to other boards.
Our janjan swept that shit up in a few hours, meanwhile your meido hasn't touched this shit for over 4 days now.

>>50757931
Chima would probably be the one to genuinely hate you for it actually as the capability to do so essentially infringes upon her domain and status as a god.

>>50757965
idk

>>50764152
>Our janjan swept that shit up in a few hours, meanwhile your meido hasn't touched this shit for over 4 days now.
everyone on this board who's not a holonigger wants our meido to be raped and skinned alive

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>>50760060
it is basic manners to ask first before seat recline idiot

>>50765543
stop larping as japanese you're literally a brown esl third worlder

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>>50765759
I love how in most argument against piracy is comparing anything physical to fucking bits of code like video games.

>>50765543
absolutely seething

Content creators who bitch that they've created a work so successful that customers will jump through hoops to access it are mentally unwell. Content creators who choose not to recognize that the only reason 99% of their customers will ever learn of their content is because of either word of mouth or piracy (especially when there is a language barrier) are also mentally unwell. If you don't want anyone to read/watch your creation, don't share it with anyone, put it online, or offer it for sale. If you do any one of those things, you lose the right to complain when people look at it. Your rights end where the URL to access the page begins.

>>50750686
The core problem with this argument is that manga and anime are not private letters, they are commercial products meant to be purchased: thus, piracy is (as it always is) a supply issue. Westoids in Burger/Bongland usually have no excuse since they can literally buy manga/anime in stores there, but outside of those places, legal access to anime and manga- translated or in the original language- rapidly nosedives while costs dramatically inflate. And so it comes back to the simple core issue of the following: if there is demand for something, and you will not provide it to your customers for a fair and reasonable price, you are a fool for complaining when someone else does your job for you. It does not matter about copyright law, it does not matter about who is "entitled" to "access" a work, it definitely does not matter how a creator feels about dirty brownskins looking at their chink cartoons. It is quite literally, very simply, supply versus demand. If demand outstrips supply, SOMETHING will fill that unmet market, period. Your ONLY options therefore are to fill that demand yourself, seethe while someone else does it for you, or stop creating commercial products. You fundamentally do not get to decide who has the "right" to purchase whatever you make because even if it is a moral issue for (you), for everyone else who isn't autistic, it is simply a transaction. That's just how it is.

Creators don't have to like it, they can try to whinge and legislate about it to make people stop, but that won't change the reality of how markets work: if you make a thing to buy, people will. If you only sell it to some people for retard reasons, however, you can't get mad at everyone who goes to a third-party broker to provide access to that thing instead. That's a problem you caused. You can easily solve that problem! Either do it, or shut up when someone else does it. Be glad you're making money off your work, most people never will.

>>50750558
We have a very hostile relationship with copyright in the west due to how strictly and often nonsensically it is enforced. Due to that, we tend to want to take advantage of any opportunity we can get to spite them.

Also fuck that complaint in the picture in particular. They weren't going to sell it to me anyways so they still made exactly as much money from me pirating it as they would have if I didn't, which is to say zero yen.

Damn I miss how active PD and Share used to be.

>>50760168
This anon is right except cops aren't really trying to capture pirates and you should be out of that risk with VPN.
However Japs are not only horrified to get caught but also afraid to do any criminal activity.
So piracy is much more of moral crime in Japanese otakus. not that they can do much other than putting ugly watermark on their art or seething in their twitter.
Japanese acting on their redditor mentality as usual.

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Japs are butthurt they go to jail while we add fifty bagillion trillion .torrent files into qbittorrent

Why does this thread feel so /pol/arized?

>>50754594
nanking was just the chinese communist revolution. and they don't have to recognize unit 731 cuz they were pardoned on that. basically japs didn't do anything. the allies liked half the things they did and the other half is CCP screeching. japan 100% good boys, unless hitler 2 rules germany and starts accusing japan of having betrayed the axis b/c of their chankoro hateboner then they will have to start recognizing

>>50754594
Because there was no propaganda and targeting against them the same way there was for Germany.

>>50770113
I think enough ppl grabbed the unique files on there and made torrents

>>50766561
this. japan still believes in OC donut steel

>>50760168
>>50774528
samefag

>>50774633
I have some files I was never able to download and nobody made torrents of. I miss when japanese people actually uploaded everything, the domestic uploading scene is completely gone now. You would see comiket cds ripped the first day of the event.

>>50765543
how will takeshi handle this situation?

>>50775511
That hurts my heart. The acceleration of lost media is a tragedy, but we can hope that someone will scan/rip/etc that content eventually... books are damaged, discs break down, physical media can't last forever. Sharing digital data is itself fraught with difficulty... but at least in this way, a work can live on so long as people keep circulating it.

>>50774566
Do those motherfuckers not know what a VPN is? Even for a country that phone-first, there are plenty of options...

>>50776620
Ironically Kemono is doing more to preserve stuff than the Japanese themselves, especially artists who delete their accounts and take their stuff with them. In fact, for many Japanese, it feels like they not only do not care about stuff becoming lost media but even support it. I've actually seen some who say they'd rather want their stuff to remain lost forever than to be seen again. I get it for stuff that is embarrassing or they regret it, but it's the case even for mundane stuff. This is not even mentioning all those Syosetsu stuff that are gone forever because the authors nuked their accounts and the site isn't archived on the IA.

>>50750558
Tell me why I should let a bunch of retarded laws stop me from getting what I want to see?

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>>50750897
>They're just way too loud. That's why we can't let any more of them into Japan. It's getting completely out of hand.
he really thinks most western tourists in japan are weebs ?

>>50750558
i don't care, japs get mad at other japs who will buy limited distribution shit and sell it on mercari for disrespecting the original intent of the distributor.

Do the Japanese unironically think their "no copying/AI" watermarks work?

>>50778489
it works on japs I guess. it just annoys everyone else and does nothing to AI scrapers

>>50778489
It works on Japs for the same reason they think no one will hack their systems because it's illegal. They don't... live in the same world as everyone else, they're very... the average Japanese is very naive, in a way, to the fact that most everyone else in the world doesn't give a shit about laws, rules, and social order. It's interesting, it's a little sad, it's definitely annoying.

>>50778838
I kind of understand expecting watermarks to work, because in a polite society we'd ideally respect other individuals' wishes. But the thing is scrapers and corpos don't look at individual images. The message is directed at people and institutions that never even see it. That's the real stupid part.

>>50750575
Except not really because you have to hire someone to translate, or at least proofread a shitty MTL, then release it through a publisher who takes a cut

>>50779079
Just sell the JP version. Fans will translate it for free, maybe even put in fan DRM as is the fashion these days.

>>50778838
>They don't... live in the same world as everyone else
Hello there, saar

>>50778838
You write like a redditor.
Don't do that.
Write like a person instead.

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I want to tell you a funny story about copyright and piracy.

Hideaki Anno's Studio Khara released a 30 year anniversary short film only in Japan, with no plans to release it abroad. Some Japanese fans took cameras into the cinema where it was airing, illegally recorded it in poor quality cam rip, then uploaded it to twitter. Studio Khara start issuing copyright notices to take down the film on twitter, but it turns it there was a twitter bug where the people receiving the take down notices were SENT the high quality versions of the film by Studio Khara, as it turns out on twitter, to issue a copyright claim, you had to provide twitter a copy of the copyrighted material. So the people who uploaded the low quality cam rip were rewarded by Khara with a high quality version of the film, which they then shared across the internet. Studio Khara then released the futility if their efforts and released the entire short film for free, in high quality, on their youtube channel.

>>50750558
>If you can't afford it
I'm not going to pay 7k extra to travel there and then buy something that is 30 dollars, wtf?

>>50778489
Half of the japs still think the survival of taiwan doesn't link directly to the survival of japan. Why do you think most of jap isekai novels have overly naive people instead of palace intrigue or power struggles? Even cattle are smarter than your average japs, at least those animals know their owners don't treat them well out of kindness

>>50780699
>Half of the japs still think the survival of taiwan doesn't link directly to the survival of japan
Why would it?

>>50750558
And in another episode of the average jap be a extremist capitalist retarded...

>>50751089
Having an American ideology was a mistake.

>>50778838
The drawbacks of being a high trust society in a low trust world, huh?

>>50781808
Go back to lefty/pol/, we respect copyright laws here

>>50785186
Copyright laws are broken as fuck if billion dollar megacorps like Disney can bribe politicians to extend them for decades.

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>>50776770
this low cultural standards mindset of thinking stealing is okay is why your country is not first world like japan idiot

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>>50778267
you are loud and stink and do nuisance acts

>>50786895
I raise my knees and force them to fight me to recline.

>>50765543
Is he autistic?

>>50750674
>It might be unfair, but that's life.
This goes both ways anon.

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>>50750558
if buying your stuff is easier than stealing it, then I would buy it, simple ass. this is why people use steam instead of getting everything off pirate bay.

>>50778489
Japan is a rulecuck society, so yes, they do think that. At least the normalfag tier types who roleplay as otaku.
Shit there's loads of people that pirate on JP imageboards.
>>50779091
This. The capacity to buy it doesn't prevent fans from translating it after the fact.
Being able to directly support the original creators is the purpose, shit doesn't need to be translated by them, that's the point.
If you can afford the translation, then shit go for it, especially if you feel you can get way more money than the cost of international selling.
I've bought games and played pirated copies of it purely because the original games are annoying, clunky, have some shitty launcher, or relied on Steam (I fucking hate Steam).
Same with emulation. It's even easier in the case of emulation now because you can buy digital-only copies of a decent chunk of more modern console games from around PS3/360 onwards, and somewhat older games.

>>50794963
you do not follow rule so you can never be first world country like japan
>>50786894

When will tranjan get his payment?

>>50786949
Based Nippon man standing up to the Gaijins