Yorhel the creator of VNDB died. We lost a real one today.
FUCKrip
How am I going to obsessively look up the credits to old PC games now? Mobygames fucking sucks, and I don't want to join a bunch of hobbyist discords those guys are gay and retarded
Fwhen i'm bored i go there and hit the random button.
nooooo
>>50780494 Vndb along with mangaupdate are my favorite databases ever. Rest in peace you legend.
>>50780494Damn what a legend.F
RIP to a real one
>>50780494Oh shit. RIP.
seriously, I've found so many good VNs thanks to VNDBthis is sad
What anime is this?
>>50780494F.
Gooned too hard?
F
>>50780494Man.Unsung hero
The best part about VNDB is that the site still looks the same as it did back in the day. The internet keeps loosing it's soul.
>>50780494Even to this day, I haven't completed even 5 VNs, but my backlog is constantly growing thanks to him. o7
>>50780494I hope someone has backed up this site
>>50780494How old was the guy?
I have never read a VN. Where should I start?
>>50780513Tsukihime (original)
RIP
>>50780515There is a remake?
>>50780494RIP
>>50780513chaos/child and steins/gate perchance
>>50780494>VNfagOk, Idc.
>>50780513Katawa Shoujo
>>50780494A real shame to hear. I really love his site.
RIPThank you for one of the greatest sites on the internet
rest in power to an OG.
>>50780520based edgelord contrarian!
>>50780494good, tranny faggot
>>50780517Tsukihime: A Piece of Blue Glass Moon, in 2024
>>50780494STICKY!?
>>50780513This is almost a decade old but still relevant. I think the only big releases that's universally recommended and not on it would be Fullmetal Daemon Muramasa and Baldr Sky.
>>50780527I know it's hard to tell these days, but I was making a joke, akin to "there is no tuskihime anime".
>>50780513kara no shoujo or saya no utathese are like the entriest of entry level
>>50780513You start with the best.
>>50780513Read a real book instead.
O7
>>50780519 >>50780532>reddit tier garbagelmao /a/ is truly dead inside. and I thought the typical edgelord posting by shonen browns is bad
>>50780530There is no joke, there is no remake.
>>50780535Cope faggot.
>>50780531>kara no shoujoSomething that requires following a step by step manual to just not die is not entry level.
>>50780513If you want something emotional but not soul-crushing, Planetarian, Song of Saya, or Yume Miru Kusuri.If you want a lengthy modern fantasy, Tsukihime or Fate/Stay Night.If you want a lengthy emotionally-heavy gothic fantasy, House in Fata Morgana.If you want a medium-length dark story in a bizarre world, Sekien no Inganock.If you want an interesting take on meta-fiction, Slay the Princess.If you want a story about disabled girls written by 4channers which is unironically a very good read, Katawa Shoujo.Personally I'd recommend Yume Miru Kusuri and Song of Saya.
إِنَّا لِلَّٰهِ وَإِنَّا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ
>>50780494Oh shit. F
>>50780494RIP unknown hero
>>50780536AND YET THERE IS A DATE FOR IT IN THIS THREAD
>>50780494RIPMODS STICKY ONEGAI
>>50780512 54.
>>50780544>>50780528>thinking modern mods sticky anything actually worthwhile anymorelmao. they'd rather sticky a naruto thread than something like this
>>50780494it's going to become censored and trannified within the week. back up all the loli tags before it's too late
>>50780539By the way when I say lengthy, I'm talking 40+ hours minimum, some VNs can be extremely long, it's not unusual for some of them to have their length measured by comparing them to novels like Lord of the Rings.
Damn, that's a loss to the internet from 2 decades ago.Hope he rests in peace.
>>50780547More than already is?
>>50780547all according to plan
He died a virgin.
STICKY NOW
>>50780513Wanko to Kurasou
>>50780494RIP;_;7
>>50780547Keep your nonsense out of this thread, sir.
>>50780513
>>50780494How am I going to look up the lewd games that my favorite voice actors have starred in now?
>>50780494FAs in Fucking Legend
>>50780513Everyone should start reading VNs with Wanko to Kurasou.
>>50780494RIP my nigga
>>50780494FUCK, why is this bullshit fucking allowed.
>>50780513Maiden Rape Assault: Violent Semen Inferno
>>50780531>>50780538worth mentioning that the first Kara no Shoujo is literally a 1 to 1 aping of Mouryou no Hako, a Kyougoku book which got a pretty good madhouse anime
>>50780494What a shame.
>>50780494Rip in peace, based pervert ojisan.
>>50780515Why not the remake? The art looks 10x better
>>50780499Does Mangaupdates currently work for you? It's been giving me a "Too Many Requests" screen for like the past week, and even before that I was getting it occasionally.
That sucks. It's a great resource.
>>50780568Original Tsukihime is still an excellent work in its own right, especially the entire Nrvnqsr arc.
I hope they can preserve it. I still haven't gotten into VNs really. I recently downloaded a bunch just so I'll have them ready when I do get around to it but I want to be able to find more if I ever get to the point of needing to.
>>50780568>Why not the demake that has NOTHING to do with the original?IT ISNT EVEN FUCKING FINISHEd
>>50780568>graphics fagging>for a vn
>>50780513start by going to /wsr/ instead of shitting up /a/ with your off topic posts
>>50780568>arthardly better than the original,inferior in a lot of cases
>>50780529>2017 was a decade ago
>>50780575It's not graphicsfagging man look at this shit it's fucking HIDEOUS
>>50780494Fowari da
>>50780494Holy shit that's terrible. One of the simplest but most useful sites on the internet.F.
>>50780529do new vns even come out anymore? feels like every time someone asks for recs all the good ones are from the 2000's
>>50780494F
>>50780494Vaxxed?
>>50780568Not a fan.
>>50780513Don't bother. Play adventure games instead.
>>50780582The niche is filled with gachas.
>>50780587grim
>>50780494SHIT!
>>50780579Looks better than the remake art
>>50780579nigger
>>50780587 a fate worse than death
>>50780494FHoly fuck. That's a real loss. I wonder what the team will do now.
>>50780587Japanese gacha writing is still serviceable, but gook or chink ones are just tragic.
>>50780579You have no taste. I bet you think pic rel looks like shit too.
>>50780494Please god don't let vndb die. Let someone continue the legacy for this site.
>>50780552truly anon.maximum respect.
Well, to golden question.Who's in charge now? Will it be someone who will keep the site as it? Or will it be a power tripping tranny who will ruin everything the site stood for?
I smell a fundraiser
>>50780599what did the site stand for that you think a tranny might change?
>>50780579ur a fagget
>>50780579Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>50780579Think the term you’re looking for is soul
>>50780603Spoiling is against the rules.
DAIZ did it.
>>50780605Don't worry, the body is still warm
Rest in peace. VNDB is a true example of what websites should be. Bless him and his family
>>50780606That faggot is going to show up in this thread and say some shit like VNDB is a corrupt scam.
>>50780607You mean wet?
>>50780545How the fuck do you die so young?
>>50780513SubaHibi
>>50780494Meanwhile, doujinshi.org ( Doujinshi & Manga Lexicon ) died back in July 23, 2022, with still no sign of life from the owner and no real replacement or successorhttps://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Doujinshi_%26_Manga_Lexiconhttps://x.com/tenetan
>>50780568Nostalgia. Read the new one, the old one is not worth anyone's time.
>>50780579>sitting on airI didn't realize just how bad the art was when I first read it.
>>50780613These sorts of sites need people trying to prepare a backup before it's too late.
>>50780613>fanloreI wonder if we can get OTW to try and keep VNDB propped up if needed, freedom of the press is their entire thing and they're the ones that created AO3.
>>50780494thank you for your servicehope you're in 2d heaven now
>>50780611A sensitive young man can only take so much of this gay earth.
>>50780616https://vndb.org/d14the vndb database gets dumped every day so we're safe in this case
>>50780494I knew it. Chuck Norris ran VNDB.
>>50780613I've been using doujinshi.wiki as a replacement but that also has stopped working. Are there any other good replacements?
>>50780611Humans don't really age in a "linear" way, you get hit with nasty bursts of it in your 40s and 60s, if you're already in poor health (especially obesity) at that point it's going to seriously fuck you up.
>>50780532>Steins;Slop>the bestlol
>>50780513SNOW, AIR, Kanon.
>>50780545Like that actor from Buffy? Suspicious.
>>50780494wtf what terrible newsF
Are the mods at least normal or is it going to be one of those cases where they're all retarded power trippers and the entire thing collapses from infighting?
>>50780494RIP ;__;
>>50780629The main moderator basically only plays cuckge. https://vndb.org/u4762/ulist?f=&l=7&p=1&s=31x
>>50780631Based.
>>50780494FUsed to browse the site a lot back when I still played VNs nonstop the times when VN were still mostly fan TLs or aggregator hooks. I hope the site continues as is and wouldn't be ruined by whoever who continues it.
>>50780494Its crazy cause I was using his site before I even knew what 4chan even was. Yeah I'm a newfound, but I've been on this shit for a decade+, that's a long fucking time agoRIP. >>50780629For likely a troon mod is gonna fuck it all up
>>50780631The site will be in good hands, then.
>>50780629It's just VN database with retarded NOT VISUAL NOVEL REMOVE AAAAH wars, tagtard wars, translation wars, retarded reviews and forum posts (though it has historic posts from cartel and golden age of fan translation era) and /vn/ bot kino. There is nothing to ruin, only database need to be maintained.
>>50780631Thank god!Someone with a modern taste.
>>50780634Fuck autocorrect and mobile posting, I'm moving back to a computer
>>50780634>newfoundfrom newfoundland?
>>50780631King.
>>50780638
>>50780494Mods, sticky.
>>50780513My first VN was Shuffle! so your first VN should be Shuffle!
>>50780513i would say Planetarianpeople recommend good entry points but this is just like 3-4 hours you can finish it in one sitting and have a feeling of the medium
>>50780631>short by date>all the gay shit in the first two pageskek, like a clockwork.
>>50780513Grisaia no Kajitsu
>>50780494RIP legendI still regularly go to vndb but for some reason I can´t keep my focus to even properly start a vn nowadays.10-15 years back I´ve managed to finish some of the classics like Majikoi, Katawa and FSN within few weeks.There are so many distractions around. Like why not to click on a browser and watch some talking head on YT instead. How do I get my will and focus back?
>>50780568I'm pretty sure they changed some of the plot in the new one.
>>50780513The Silver Case
>>50780513KS (I only played KS)
>>50780588>>50780592the lb6 is the best written vn in the last decade
>>50780649best recc in this threadI hope Moonlight Syndrome gets its full translation soon
>>50780642>stickyVNs are off-topic by "official rules" desu. It's not Majikoi time anymore. You will be lucky to have VN related threads not deleted by janny gacha. TsukiR release threads were nuked here.
>>50780494A very old light novel database from 2012 called LNDB, also died back in June 2020, revived back in January 2022, only to die again on February 2022. RanobeDB appears to be its successor. Japan also has its own light novel database called RanobeMori but it is run like an early 2000s personal blog https://lndb.info/https://ranobedb.org/https://ranobe-mori.net/
>>50780494>>50780641What is the girl from?
>>50780494RIP. More websites should be like vndb, simple and fast. I respect him as a developer.
>>50780651Shit taste.There's never any point in LB6 that can compare to any other VN.
>>50780655Boku no Pico
>>50780651Yeah, no.
>>50780654>but it is run like an early 2000s personal blogTypical Japanese internet experience in 2026 lol.
>>50780494I am pretty sure that anyone who ever touched any VN in the West has heard or used this site. Huge loss. Rest in peaceRest in peace
the only appointment that we can't reschedule
>>50780494Fuck man, I was just on there two days ago trying to remember the title of a VN that I never played but I buyfagged a figure from (it was Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou). Have found many tl patches through this site, RIP
>>50780655https://vndb.org/v1280It was just a VN the admin randomly found on google IIRC.
>>50780649
>>50780659nothing in this whole franchise surpassed the first gamethe twist hit me like a truck
>>50780653>VNs are off-topicVNs are as /a/ as LNs. Sad world we live in...
>>50780653VNs are off-topic only because in the entire history of anime adaptations there has never been a good adaptation of a vn
>>50780666The first game was so much weaker than both sequels it's not even funny.
>>50780587No...
>>50780494Rest in peace
>>50780668Ef.
>>50780666>the twist hit me like a truckWhich one?>>50780668The Higurashi VNs were well liked back in the day.>>50780669lollmao even
>>50780670something tells me this anime is trash but that's a really good scene kek
>>50780673>The Higurashi *anime was*...
>>50780668Steins;Gate, and arguably Princess Connect if you count that as a VN.
>>50780494I already said it in the other thread, but Rest in Peace.
>>50780601>stands forArchiving vns info as neutrally as possible>changeRemove unpleasant ones since it might give them exposure and such
>>50780674It's kino, actually.
>>50780668Anime adaptation is the only way to have legitimate VN discussion on /a/ baka desu.We love VN adaptations here.
>thread moved to jpFUUUUUUUUCK
Just delete /jp/.
See. The power of janny gacha.
Ah yes, you can suck my dick, mods.
>instead of sticky we got thisNice work janny. Apparently it's not as important as 20th NGE remake or Boruto.
Good morning sirs, greetings from /jav/
>>50780666Early Uta had a mother of all kamige potential, but the combat and later story execution failed to deliver. However, MoD and MoT were exceptional, thankfully. I was encased in joy reading them.
>>50780494Imagine being so out-of-touch with a board that you move a VERY RELEVANT STICKY-WORTHY thread from a board to another, because you are a indian underage newfag mod who can only mechanically adhere to the rules without actually understanding them, because you are not and never will be an actual member of the community.4chan was killed by poor moderation.
>>50780707Nta, but for me it's Truth > Utawarerumono > Deception or Deception + Truth Duology > Utawarerumono
>mods kick the thread about an eceleb out of the anime boardMods were based for once.
Welcome home, traitors.
i'm ok it this./a/ is full of cancer and bots doing ragebait for engagement.
>>50780727not a thread about an eceleb, kill yourself
>>50780494vaxstatus?
>>50780717>4chan was killed by poor moderation.Pretty much, LNs and VNs belong to /a/, /jp/ is for garbage + touhou.
>>50780717>4chan was killed by poor moderation.that is true. But you get the feeling they want to kill it.
>>50780494rip
>>50780494Rest in peace. Was this guy into crypto? I’ve seen a lot of mourning from that community.
It was Moogy.
>>50780707>>50780720OG Uta >>> sequels
>>50780742It wasn't about anime so it didn't belong there.>BUT MUH RANDOM FAG THAT MADE A DATABASENot anime.>BUT MUH VNSLOPNot anime.>BUT MUH CULTURE, AMIRITE FELLOW OLDHEADS?Not anime. Don't shit up the board with off-topic threads next time retard.
>>50780791>BUT MUH RANDOM FAG THAT MADE A DATABASEPart of the weeb generation>BUT MUH VNSLOPPart of /a/ since the very begging>archer is gar >BUT MUH CULTURE, AMIRITE FELLOW OLDHEADS?Now you are just acting retarded to defend a dogshit moderation team.
/a/theists, please go sling shit at each other on your own board
wowthat sucks
>>50780727same mods who sticky threads about dead dub e-celebs
>>50780791You're just a retarded normalfag
>>50780717>4chan was killed by poor moderation.There's a reason why a third of the userbase decided to stay on the replacement places that were supposed to be temporary during the hack. Turns out, it's actually kind of nice to be somewhere where the moderation and owners give a shit and try to make the place good for the users rather than be somewhere where the moderation does its utmost to ruin the site, despises is culture, defends shitposters and bad actors and punishes posters of quality and people who actually wanna have discussions or create content.
>>50780856He won't suck your dick fag. Stop trying so hard.
>>50780862Those replacement places? Deader than dead /jp/ btw
dont fight during a memorial thread please
>>50780862One of these replacements has a sticky that sums up a lot of people's thoughts well.
I'm surprised someone like elon hasn't made a real 4chan. This place is gone.
>>50780862Shame that there is no active /a/ alternative. At least /vt/ got a site they seem to like, so good for them I guess.
>>50780494Wow holy fuck I hope vndb will be alright. RIP my nigga.
>>50780862A third of what? 10 people?Because all the alternatives are deader than most places on this website.
Since yorhel is dead I guess no one has access to the server and the domain name now? Guess its going to go down once it gets suspended by the webhost for nonpayment?
>>50780529>ai suru tsuma>English title: please bang my wife
Rip damn that's so sad. Do we know how he died?
>>50780913Obviously there are workarounds, otherwise many sites would croak.
>>50780913Nah. Just pay GoDaddy 245,000 dollars for the domain/rebrand.
>>50780862This places are so dead it's not even funny anymore.Unless you mean reddit or xitter.
FUUUUUCK. rip.
>>50780913Yorhel apparently was 54 years old so slim chance of asking Yorhel's parents to let somebody else inherit the website.
>>50781029If there is no family it is easier, anyone who pays can inherit the site.
>>50780876>>50780909>>50780997>T-They're dead they don't matter we should keep consooming Hiromoot slop! There's no other better place!It's sad to see how mindbroken you have become you are still defending this place that does nothing but hate you and denigrate you.Not that I can criticize much since I keep coming here if only out of sheer muscle memory. Really hard to quit the habit after all. But at least I'm not defending my abuser and refusing the alternatives.Keep coping, I suppose. And lurking moar. Maybe someday you will actually find the places.
>>50781061If I get a response at most once a week (in the best case) in a thread on one of those altchans, it's not even worth checking them once a week.Besides you're posting on 4chan too.
>>50781069where else do we have? the sharty? our options are slim, and they're all a load of bollocks.
>>50781072>shartyWhy even bring up that one?
>>50781072Not that anon, but the option is to leave imageboards behind entirely.Every NEET will eventually become alone or live in a world with only a handful of other people before they kill themselves directly or indirectly, including (you), and the final bus out of town already went years ago. I've lived well enough without really having anything image or textboard related with the three friends I have, and in another decade I'll be fertilizer. I don't need any of it anymore. I'm sure someone else will mock me for being here in the first place but to be honest I'm only back on jaypee to see how folks were handling it, and it was more depressing than I thought. Ironically this thread full of /a/tards that got moved here is the best because at least most people are mourning the loss of a great man rather than falling for the most low effort bait.
Frest in peace. thank you for all your hard work.take it easy
Are gachashit ‘games’ considered VNs?
>>50781093Nope
>>50781072Just rent a VPS, download something like Jschan, Kusaba, Vichan, and create one. Be the change you want to see.
>>50780494rip yorhel
>>50781076The modern net is really really bad, 4chan is all I could want. Altchans may be better but the activity is not the same like 4chan. I like being anonymous, I like having no algorithm or profile and I like the way imageboards work. Discord/Twitter/Reddit exist but they are in my view a lot worse compared to here.
>>50780595not that anon, but i concur, the higurashi vn art style is objectively and outstandingly atrocious.it's parallel to the western equivalent of an autistic deviantart user who doesn't improve over the course of ten (plus) years,and if there are any perceivable 'improvements', it's minor and took far too long; looking remotely less mediocre.
>>50780494rest in peace.i don't know how mods haven't sticky this yet.
>>50780599>>50780601The mod team around Yorhel's circle are anti censorship for all genres/media. Unless a covert splinter cell is in there I doubt anything will change, it may even get more lax with what constitutes a vn because yorhel was a little autistic about that.
>>50780568The remake is objectively an improvement in terms of writing as well. But you can read the original on a whim without any friction whatsoever and on any platform at https://tsukiweb.holofield.fr/ which is quite comfy.
>>50781226jannies are all newfags that primarily only care about /v/, /vg/ and /pol/
>>50780494Rest in Peace, Legend.vndb did really help me find more out about VNs the more I got invested into them. Hopefully the site stays up
>>50780494just heard a family member tell beliar it was a confirmed suicide ;_;
>>50781289What???
>>50781289Heard from your crack pipe or an actual source?
>>50781289it would make sense.
>>50780601Letting tags, and associated titles with it continie to exist on the site, in this era of extreme purity testing, for one.https://vndb.org/g2023.2Other "database" sites like Backloggd, with tags nowhere near extreme as this, pulled games like Black Souls after troon scolds told them to.
>>50781304My bet is on the crack pipe
>>50780913Worst case scenario, the domain name is fucked. But the VNDB source code is open source (other DBs like nepchan use it) and there are database dumps available, so hosting a new instance is perfectly doable. In this worst case accounts and personal reading lists would be lost though.
How old was he? Some sources say 54, others 38. If the latter, it's likely a suicide, yeah. Which is odd, because he just came back from his Japan trip.
>>50780494FWe lost a brother
>>50781345Given his university graduation paper was in 2010, I'd say 38 sounds more likely.
>>50780664Love how you can tell it's a Kogado game from the screenshots alone.
>>50781345not very odd at alli want to kms too but i wanna see japan first
>>50781345>>50781408After I go to Japan a few times for sight seeing and food, visit some soaplands to fuck jp girls with my whiteu piggu cock I will probably kill myself. I agree.
>>50781408>>50781415this should be made into a /jp/ tradition
>>50780611Leading a sedentary lifestyle, chronically online. This is your call to take up jogging or similar
>>50781431I work blue collar (maintenance) so...
Today I learned that Yorhel is also the creator of https://manned.org/
>>50781441Read his blog, he seemed like a cool guy
>>50781441Wait what the fuck he made ncdu too, how can one guy be so based
>>50781441>>50781442>>50781443I don't get it, he seemed to have real talent and also truly cared about his hobbies deeply so why would he kill himself, he even went to japan many times.
>>50781446Maybe he witnessed the sheer amount of jeets in japan nowadays and became crestfallen
>>50781446all of that is a cheap distraction
>>50781446Otaku culture is dead. Its corpse is being puppeteered by gacha, but even then, by 2030 many aspects of it might even become illegal globally, especially with this incoming wave of government enforced net censorship and ID verification. Who knows if the Japan trip broke him, or if he just wanted one last ride of what's left of otakudom, but if otaku culture is my whole life and it's all getting forcibly taken away rapidly, I'd consider checking out too.
I'm not buying the suicide thing without a source.
>>50781509He's dutch, probably got isekaid by getting rammed by a bicycle.
>>50781446Why would talent make it less likely to commit suicide? The opposite is the case.
>>50781485
>>50781512Fatal bicycle accidents in the nl make the news and we would've been linked some sort of news article about it by now. NL is super autistic about bicycle safety.My money is on suicide cause it spikes highly around 40-50 which was his approx age or in the very elderly and it's kept hush hush to avoid copycats.
>>50781446Bucket lists are a thingPeople have made trips to places like vegas with the intention of killing themselves but not before spending all their savings on alcohol, drugs, gambling and hookers and having a bit of fun before sudokuing.
>>50781446every suicidal otaku I've met dreamed of visiting japan before doing it.
>>50781425It always has been. Not like we have any proof he killed himself so I don't even know why it's being brought up.
>>50781534Well, there's this "proof".>>>/v/735451825
>>50781533>>50781526>>50781513>>50781485>>50781478I feel like visiting Japan for an otaku would make you want to live and visit it again no?
>>50780494good night sweet prince
>>50780494Oh no.This is genuinely catastrophic news.Rest easy, Yorhel
>>50781549Not when you witness firsthand how much of it is disappearing in favor of tourism traps, foreign gacha advertisements, getting relegated to an ever increasing amount of back door "hush hush" businesses until it becomes illegal.Seeing that 30+ year old legend companies like Alicesoft are dying because of one or two American purists at Steam just ban all anime games from their platform already makes me want to turn into the Joker. I can't imagine what it like for someone who's life -is- VNs.
>>50780615She's clearly sitting on the railing.
>>50780532If he was starting with the best, he'd start with Chaos;Child. You have to ease in with the kino by reading the other 3 first.
>>50781611No, Alicesoft is dying because it's a 30+ year old legend and they lost a lot of steam, not lost a lot from Steam. Common mistake.
>>50781219>the higurashi vn art style is objectively and outstandingly atrociousOG artstyle Mion is 1000x hotter than Mion in any other style
Why do people think its suicide? Just know that when you enter your 40s, that's when you high-school and college buddies start dying off from cancer, heart disease and other illnesses.
>>50781662>this is a 10 for VN readers
>>50781672Yes!
>>50781668because some retard told them, so it can't be a lie from an attention-seeking maggot, surely
>>50781668idk, why would someone suddenly drop dead at 38, you tell meand yes, there are multiple sources saying that it's a suicide
>>50781707>multiple sourcesAnonymous posts on a Chinese kiguruumi forum are not a proper source.
>>50781659Alicesoft lost basically their entire investment on Evenicle 2 after it got banned from Steam in 2021. They put all their eggs into that basket after the first Evenicle did well on Steam in 2018 (before Steam ramped up anti otaku policies) and got slapped sideways. They went into a death spiral afterwards.
>>50781714This is absolutely not true.>t. worked at Alicesoft on the Evenicle 2 translation
>>50780494Call me heartless, but is the site going to be okay?
>>50781794The site will almost certainly continue in some form, but the domain was registered in his name, and he did a lot of work on the site. If one of the mods takes over and pays for the same URL registration, then probably nothing changes right away. No one can completely replace him though.
>>50780494>YorhelF RIP
>>50780494So why did he die?
>>50781714Yes, and Evenicle 2 was many many many years after their golden years and right after basically everyone that ever meant anything leaving. I won't lie to you and tell you that the credit card fuckery wasn't a huge issue but again, that's not a Steam issue nor was it even their biggest issue. The biggest issue was the fact that Alicesoft already used their hail mary and there's not much left in the tank.
>>50780668/a/ loves Clannad anime. Is it bad?
>>50780494>>50780494NOOOOOOOOOOOO
the /jp/ thread had less than 20 posts, so i guess /a/ is really the VN board and mods fucked up again
>>50781714how hasn't valve been sued into oblivion
>>50781926I'm not saying they didn't fuck up, but once this thread moved here wouldn't most anons from /jp/ just use this thread because it has more replies.
Hello /a/
>>50781977this thread was moved hours after the thread here was created
>>50780612reading this right now and it's my first longer vn. i heard it's really fucked up and i like that. are they all so slow paced? i'm also listening to all the voice lines because i feel like it's against the spirit of things to not, theoretically i could read way faster
>>50780565Mouryou was waaay more kino (the novel that is)
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>>50781662Based
>>50780494rip.. also take care of yourself /jp/
was he a public figure? I had never heard of his name until now./ RIP
>>50781926>>50781977>>50781998/jp/ is fucking dead if you didn't notice.
>>50780897damn. good for them
>>50780494/tg/ pays its respects, our hobby is reading and playing pretend and you need good stories to inspire you.
I am later to this news than I wanted to be but I am here to pay homage to a real VN enjoyer who made the scene at large much more accessible and easier to approach for a Western audience and to have a resource that gave us a real alternative to browsing stuff on obscure Japanese websites to collate into one place. He passed too young but at least for me, I will never forget him.>>50782024No, but he worked hard in the background for many things related in terms of really deep otaku stuff and supported VNs in their infancy so he was around a bunch in the communities with stuff there. Outside of VNs, he really was known for the software he provided and other things.The reason why most people only know him as the VNDB guy is because a lot of the stuff later was obfuscated and absorbed with cults of personalities around translators and other efforts in the VN scene like the ones of Moogy and Tinfoil more or less dominating the scene afterwards with TLwiki and Tindabox. Wasn't positive even while things were in decline and the latter stopped working on VN stuff and the former just withered away. I worked in the background without ever getting into the cabal with my project. However, after it released and etc, it took me way too long for me to contact and email him this past winter season several months back about using his software in my translation. I got a very nice reply back, he seemed to be in good spirits so it was a shame to hear this. I am glad I at least was able to thank him.
>>50781345He was probably a lonely dude. He got to visit the place he wanted to since long time. After he returned he realized he isn't young anymore, there is no living his anime/vn dream of love,just endless grind of making his OSS projects. So he decided it ain't worth it. There is probably many such cases, after all we are social creatures.
>>50782024His lack of notoriety is due to him being non-opinionated / doesn't have any takes like moogy and co. so he doesn't get memed / clowned around. Also, he's not really into eroge, and I believe he can't even read Japanese. He only reads english vns. He's more of linux geek, not the modern lgbtq trans one but the old richard stallman/cathedral and bazaar linux geek. His hobby is programming not reading vns. That said he did a lot of work behind the scene for the vn community. I know vndb gets a lot of flak due to some of their decisions but those are due to powertripping mods, not yorhel.DESU I don't think he committed suicide, if he did he would've made a proper turnover procedure for his projects especially vndb. From what little I know of him he isn't really the type of guy to want his projects to disappear with him. But who knows, the last time I talked to him is more than a decade ago so I might be wrong.
RIPt. jpts anon
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How did gacha completely took over VNs?
>>50782857like pachinko with boomers i guess, gambling
>>50782857the diffusion of smartphones probably played a big part.
>>50782857did it really? they are completely different both in genre and gameplay
>>50783400The core appeal of both is dating the girls/boys, and gacha games doubled down on that.
>>50782857>>50783400Gacha did not kill eroge, especially moege. Gacha did kill the huge budget nvl/adv vn's with 200+ cgs. Moege gets tons of releases every year. Those huge budget often acclaimed "kamige" are much more rare now.
>>50782857Am I completely out of touch or are VNs basically non-existent for mobile? If so, how come, seems like a no-brainer?
>>50782024>>50782111>he worked hard in the background for many thingsEchoing this. I was friends with yorhel for a while around the time he first introduced VNDB on the Visual News Gemot (what later became encubed). There was a lot of drama on the Gemot but he kept himself out of it and stayed focused on VNDB and helping other projects where he could. Over the years he did a lot of work behind the scenes and was something of an unsung hero of the VN community. He provided web hosting for various projects, helped with tooling for patch makers and just generally helped out whenever and wherever it was needed. This was all on top of all the other non-VN OSS projects he worked on.
>>50783450Attention span is much shorter when you're on a phone. Some people manage to read books on phones, but they're a minority.
>>50781999You picked a crazy one to start with.>are they all so slow paced?Kind of, especially the longer ones. Although, I find that's part of the appeal. The mundane parts build immersion and make the parts where stuff actually happens more impactful. That being said, SubaHibi's pace really picks up after the first part.> i'm also listening to all the voice lines because i feel like it's against the spirit of things to notDon't force yourself if you feel like you're going too slow. Most VNs let you replay voicelines if you feel like you missed a good one.
>>50783676thanks anon, the immersion especially with the SoL parts is like junk food for my brainand I like crazy
>>50781999>listening to all the voice linesYou don't have to. I do it because for me it's basically a very long anime and I enjoy hearing the voiced lines. I also read in Japanese these days so it actually helps me read faster too. But many people treat VNs like books and don't care about voices, turning them off and setting text speed to instant too. This is purely a matter of taste, and most VNs give you the option of reading them as you'd like.
>>50781714>muh westoid steam shitJapan doesnt care or use steam at all
>>50784008Are you living in the past bro? Japan fucking loves steam. Even funnier is watching them in a 2chan discord I lurk complain about EGS releases.
this site is simply something you can depend on
>>50783450There's the NOeSIS series, which is a fairly old one that seemed to spawn a number of material.
>>50782857gambling is more addictive than reading
>>50784118why cant they just play poker and then jack off to tentacle impregnation hentai like a man , instead of spending their lifesavings on a 3d model named chinchongquin?
>>50781446Yorhel's posts do not hint at any depression. He even posted photos of his pet female dog who gives him a reason to walk outside his house, every morning.>Full-time unemployed as free software developer and sysadmin. Part-time dog parent, bookworm, gamer, weeb, minimalist and indecisive lead character.https://lonely.town/@ayo
>>50781963They are, unfortunately it's just the Rothschilds pissed that they couldn't scam them and not companies asking them to have a consistent set of rules for Steam releases
>>50783400>they are completely different both in genreAre they? The core is the same - conquering heroines
>>50784263>The core is the same - conquering heroinesNeither luck, nor grind, nor money conquers, it just earns or, in luck's case, grants you a heroine. Wits, on the other hand, count as conquering force.But this is wrong comparison in the first place, because in gacha there is a separation between character in whatever story they have and the unit you may posses and interact with, even when the character and the unit represent the same person. In VNs, as the story is the gameplay, there is usually no unit-character separation, or at the very least the degree is no as severe as in gacha.
>>50784222>unemployed>with 40 or 50Couldn't that have been a reason?
>>50784222Looks like Yorhel's friends in Japan did not notice anything strange about Yorhel during his Japan vacation.>This week, we received the devastating news from his family that our friend and co-worker Yoran Heling, known to most as Yorhel, had passed away without warning on March 17, 2026.>He’s most widely known as the founder of VNDB, a great visual novel database that has supported the fandom and localization scene from its humble beginnings. However, he has also been the webmaster of Fruitbat Factory since our founding 12 years ago, and we knew him even before that from our time in the visual novel fan translation scene, where he was helping groups with hosting and other technical solutions. Yoran was a steadfast rock of the emerging localization scene, always around, uninterested in and even avoiding the spotlight, but he’s done more to make the current Japanese to English localization ecosystem exist than most people can appreciate, and he was an important member of our staff. >Just this month, Yoran was visiting Japan for the first time, the country whose culture he’s been so entwined in for the longest time. I was very excited to learn about it, and gave him many tips for the trip. Ozhan had a chance to show him around Tokyo at the end of his trip – to my own everlasting regret, I missed him by a day on my own latest arrival to Tokyo, so I never got the chance to meet him in person, having to settle for Ozhan’s accounting of the places they went and things they did. By all accounts, he had a great time.https://blog.fruitbatfactory.com/2026/03/22/goodbye-to-yorhel/
Without vndb I would have never found my favorite VN that got me into everything, やんデレ.>>50780862I have noticed that every time this site goes down, even for a few hours, fewer users return for good.>>50781446>talentIrrelevant to how someone feels. In fact the more talented one is, the more emotional one can be in certain ways.>>50781549It depends on the type of otaku you are. I've lived in Japan for almost 10 years now. It's very convenient if you enjoy going to events. However, 90s and 00s culture is almost dead. It's really depressing that he decided to visit in one of the worst times possible. If he had come 2 years ago, it would have been better, and if he had come next year it would have been better. Xenophilia is now almost non-existent, whereas before 2020 many people would have been happy to show you around and take you to shops you've never heard of.>>50784222I don't know Yorhel, but perhaps something changed with relationships. Online relationships are really important to some people, and when trying to meet them in real life, you realize that the other party may never meet you or care to meet you, despite knowing you for 20+ years.>>50781668Everyone is saying he passed away, but not the reason why. If it was an accident they would have said so. If it was a medical complication, they would have said so. There are a few reasons people don't give a reason and suicide is one of them.
I really don't like how people immediately jumped to "he killed himself" for no reason whatsoever and are breaking their backs to try and find some way to justify that train of thought.
>>50780876why didn't you stay on kissu
>>50780876Quality>Quantity
>>50783440Most gacha just plays around with ecchi visuals and let the paid fan artists do the actual spicy pictures, so gacha wins the porn content by proxy
>>50784432I think anon means this >>50783428, it's not the exact way to achieve that but it's the same appeal
>>50784222>pet female dogW-why did you need to tell us that the dog is female anon-kun?!
>>50782161This, along with things dear to you dying out, must be so fucking depressing to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIleIBSm_zcMy grandfather was in excellent physical condition but died of a heart attack when he was 39 because he didn't have an enzyme and it gave him a blood clot or something like that.People very much do die young without any forewarning, especially nearing middle-age. Being pissed off at how things are in the present isn't indicative of suicide I wouldn't think because everyone is. For the same reason I wouldn't just assume a guy killed his wife because they had an argument and they found her dead a month later, I wouldn't assume someone would off themselves because of things I also don't particularly like watching. His recent trip to Japan may be related sure but it very well could have just been "fortunate" timing -- one of my best friend's grandfather died just a couple of days before he was shipped off to bootcamp and otherwise would've completely missed him on his deathbed.Also the family not disclosing the cause doesn't inherently mean suicide, they could very well just not say publicly because the only people who it actually matters to would already know. How many families of the Kyoto Animation fire victims wanted to keep their obituaries private? Family and friends of public figures have reason to keep quiet about these kinds of things. Being close to a kinda former one myself, if the choice was up to me even if he just had a heart attack then for a while I'd just leave it at him not being around anymore. In mourning it's a lot easier to think about the abstract and come to terms with it more fully later, with a public spotlight on a loved one I can't imagine how much harder it'd get.Regardless, it's still very sad to see. When I was in high school and one of the bleakest periods of my entire life, I used VNDB a lot to get my mind off of things because of the awe the sheer amount of games and companies were catologued on it put me in. It made me think of all the things I could read if I was ever able to again, and thinking about that long enough helped get me over the (unfounded mind you but I was 17 and a scrawny little bitch) crippling fear that I wouldn't even be able to.Now that dream's a reality and has been for a while I do regret not going through the list I made as much as I could have, although I suppose there couldn't be a more appropriate time to finally play Ever 17. Even if I never spoke to Yorhel, I am happy that his most profound effect on me was during his lifetime, even if he'd have never known. Maybe I should get to writing emails to the creators of the forums I used to use. Rest in peace and thank you.
>>50782161Considering Yorhel lived in the Dutch countryside, it is no wonder that he was lonely since his nearest next door neighbor must be living miles away from him.https://lonely.town/@ayo/114484155352981223
>>50787162Yorhel's profile picture on Mastodon was Kyubey from Madoka
I don't care how much you latch onto it, i'm not buying suicide just from a "dude trust me" post on 4chan.
i'm not interested in playing sherlock holmes over it either. whatever the cause it's tragic nonetheless.
>>50782161>>50787162No, the true reason for Yorhel's loneliness was that he prevented himself from going 100% weeb by being such a stubborn open source advocate that he refused to even use Twitter, even though over 60 to 70 percent of Japan's population uses Twitter. Such a restriction likely prevented Yorhel from directly engaging with his favorite Japanese creators on social media.>You will not find me on closed networks such as Discord, Facebook, Github, LinkedIn, Twitter, etc. https://yorhel.nl/
>>50787162Yorhel's handle is literally @ayo@lonely.town so I guess he really was a lonely person living in a lonely town.
>>50787209>You will not find me on closed networks such as Discord, Facebook, Github, LinkedIn, Twitter, etc.This man becomes more and more insanely based the more I learn about him.
>>50787209Scrolling twitter doesn't make people happy. The fuck kind of logic is that?
>>50785155Why would it have been better next year?
>>50787430Social media addict logic.
>>50785155>やんデレCool, gonna download for when I eventually probably binge some VNs when I get sick of manga.
>>50787430Assuming you managed to convince your algorithm into only showing you art and nothing else, Twitter isn't THAT bad.
>>50787680my twitter is only for shitposts and cosplay thots
>>50787680If you're the same anon he's replying to I'm morally obligated to call you a stupid fucking braindead faggot for continuing to spew the verbal diarrhea that is "gaiz eye dink he k*lled himself!!!1!" shit that has no root in any reality, and I truly pray that you find your own happiness at the end of the very same rope you're so desperate to imply was the final answer for another man.If you're not, then yeah. It's where all the artists and eroMMD'ers I follow are. Just block out the limp-dick faggots attempts at forcing whatever Amerilard news he's paying to push with a script or ublock and it's the same site it was pre-purchase. The worst part about it is the autistic artists constantly deleting their stuff but that'd be the same across any other site.
>>50787209>>You will not find me on closed networks such as Discord, Facebook, Github, LinkedIn, Twitter, etc.We truly lost a real one.
>>50787684Name
>>50787757@_______u2
>>50787770Man that's some good shit
>>50784222He didn't leave her alone on purpose, r-right?!
>>50781343user posts would be lost too. there's a lot of good information including walkthroughs/links to walkthroughs that are only available in those posts
>>50784565I wonder if it was something sudden about his health that could've gotten a complication from the plane ride. That kind of stuff tends to affect old and very frail people usually, though (e.g. Carrie Fisher)
>>50782268>but the old richard stallman/cathedral and bazaar linux geekYeah. ncdu is always part of my routine linux tasks. It's rare to find 'modern' (relatively speaking) software that is just simple, does what it's supposed to do and doesn't fucking scream at you about some russia shit or trannies.
>>50787209>No, the true reason for Yorhel's loneliness was that he prevented himself from going 100% weeb by being such a stubborn open source advocate that he refused to even use Twitter, even though over 60 to 70 percent of Japan's population uses Twitter. Such a restriction likely prevented Yorhel from directly engaging with his favorite Japanese creators on social media.>Time on social media cures loneliness lol, lmao evenThe less I use shit like Discord/FB/Twitter the better I feel. It doesn't cure loneliness. It's probably worse cause it shows you people who actually have normal connections from time to time.
>>50787541Tourism next year will be less than last year and this year because of economical as well as political reasons. Coming to tour Japan this year would make anyone not like it, especially the cities and especially shibuya.
>>50788702Go to therapy before it's too late.
>>50788702Zoomers think using twitter is actual social interaction lmaoWe really are screwed with the way things are going. The ausfag under16 ban sounds good on paper, but the result will be that teens suddenly turning 16 will be thrown without warning into a world they do not fully understand. Exploits, scams and doxxing will be worse for them.>>50787209He could've been using nitter to check on posts for all we know.
>>50790059I disagree. They will have a more stable personality and will know how proper social interaction works. Even if entering social media throws them into turmoil, they can fall back to their better experiences.Sure, maybe 16 is too young, or maybe the ban is not effective enough.
>>50790059In their defense, have you seen how irl interactions are nowadays? It's a total shitshow, somehow even worse than most parts of the net.
>>50790213I agree when it comes to proper 'social interaction'. But sadly the modern society expects you to be a discord/slack/teams zoomie, and that can introduce friction. I don't think banning kids outright is the way. Hell, we' ve all used forums and IRC back when we were 13 or so, right?The difference was that it was not ALWAYS on. You had to use the family computer, or (in my case) go to a cyber café. The net wasn't everywhere and everytime... That was a GOOD thing.
>>50790515Forums or IRC are just ways to talk to other people on the internet. Social media is engineered to grab your attention and to keep you hooked by inducing an emotional rollercoaster and tricking your brain's reward functions.
>>50786919>My grandfather was in excellent physical condition but died of a heart attack when he was 39 because he didn't have an enzyme and it gave him a blood clot or something like that.You should probably get tested, I've read this stuff is genetic.
I truly do wonder why so many people are projecting their ideals of what they think Yorhel's mindset was in the way that they're doing in this thread. Is that the retards from /a/ leftover from the move? Or is it the younger NEET's in /jp/ who are yet to come to term with their lot in life and are still in the "lashing out" and "everyone is like me" phase?
>>50791419I don't care to speculate but if you ever had any correspondence with the guy or read his VNDB comments, he did not give off that impression at all. He was a down to earth fellow who was concise and to the point with his writing from what I saw as someone who was in the community.
>>50790750My dad was, he's in the clear and never made sure I was tested too so I've gathered I didn't inherit it either. But thank you for your concern.>>50791473Damnit now I really regret never saying anything ;_;
>>50791473That was my point, yeah. It seems like people had this idea of the guy as this gloomy "hates everyone, hates himself, went on a trip to Japan then Gensokyo, see look at this thing I found the website is literally called lonely it all makes sense!" despite most of them likely never interacting with him in any capacity. The armchair psychologist profession truly is the most flooded of all markets.
>>50782161>>50787162>>50787209>>50786713all these theories are retarded>he visited japan, he's lonely>he lives in the netherlands, he's lonely>he doesn't doomscroll twitter or live on facebook and discord, he's lonely>japan has fallen, make VNs great again no wonder he an hero'dI wasted half an hour figuring out nobody knows how he died. Unless his dick spontaneously combusted while in Japan, he didn't suicide.
The suicide bit comes from a bunch of posts that spread the rumor that someone close to his family said it was suicide. Nobody is going to lie on the internet, so it surely is true.
>>50794109Who are you quoting?
>>50794263I'm quoting information I pulled from my ass, just like every poster ITT.
>>50794109
my uncle works for VNDB, this is how Yorhel died on his way back from Japan. giant killer Orca. tragic but true
>>50780568I never read a VN and don't know anything about Tsukihime apart of porn, the original irradiated SOVL.
>>50780494انا حزينanons, we should wget the entire website
