General area for discussion of all aspects of TYPE-MOON works including 'Tsukihime', 'Kara no Kyoukai', 'Fate', 'Mahoutsukai no Yoru', and more>Moonlit Archives: A Digital Archive of Historical TYPE-MOON Workshttps://moonlitarchives.com/static/games/>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night Mahoutsukai no Yoruhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2052410/WITCH_ON_THE_HOLY_NIGHT/An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru Short Story)https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/An-Adventure-of-First-Love.htmlWitch on the Holy Night Materialhttps://tri-hermes.org/Materials/The_Magicians_Basic_Rhythm.html>Kara no Kyoukai (1998)Kara no Kyoukai Novels (English)https://nyaa.si/view/1916622Kara no Kyoukai Animehttps://nyaa.si/view/1828314Kara no Kyoukai Mangahttps://nyaa.si/view/1187963>Tsukihime (2000)Tsukihime Complete Packhttps://www.readtsukihi.me/downloadsTsukihime Mangahttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpnTsukihime Plus Period - Talkhttps://tri-hermes.org/Novels/talk.htmlTsukihime II Preludehttps://tri-hermes.org/Novels/prelude.html>MELTY BLOOD (2002)MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (Original + ReACT + Act Cadenza + Actress Again Current Code):https://nyaa.si/view/1042489MELTY BLOOD Mangahttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEqMELTY BLOOD - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Mangahttps://weebdex.org/title/unciq51sbi/melty-blood-back-alley-nightmareMELTY BLOOD - Back Alley Radio episode from 2014https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEEDMvWiEUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i-ukXCTmWk>Fate (2004)Fate/stay night REMASTEREDhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2396980/Fatestay_night_REMASTERED/Fate/hollow ataraxia REMASTEREDhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2396990/Fatehollow_ataraxia_REMASTERED/Garden of Avalonhttps://tri-hermes.org/Novels/GoA.htmlFate/strange Fakehttps://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/771492010917019648/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novelFate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illyahttps://nyaa.si/view/1976278Fate Music Collectionhttps://nyaa.si/view/1834594>Fate/EXTRA (2010) Fate/Extra + Fate/Extra CCC [English]https://nyaa.si/view/1753542Fate/Extra Last Encorehttps://nyaa.si/view/1985027>Other Type-Moon WorksAngel Voice / Noteshttps://tri-hermes.org/Novels/notes.htmlClock Tower 2015https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/clocktower2015.htmlFire Girlhttps://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.comTsuki no Sango - Coral of the Moonhttps://tri-hermes.org/Novels/tsuki-no-sango.htmlTsuki no Sango Mangahttps://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1Haru to Tsuki to Sora tohttps://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs>Type-Moon MiscellaneousBAMBOO BROOM DIARY (Nasu and Takeuchi blog)https://tri-hermes.org/bamboo.htmlCarnival Phantasmhttps://nyaa.si/view/550820Encyclopedia of Type-Moonhttps://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQMaterialshttps://tri-hermes.org/materials.htmlTMdict Glossaryhttps://www.tmdict.comTsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):https://www.tsukikan.comType-Moon Comic Acehttps://web-ace.jp/tmcaUMD - Type-Moon Manga Fan Translationshttps://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/10069-UMD-Translations-HubPrevious >>50768025
>this is now your neighborwyd?
>>50814982FPBP
OTP
>>50814982Ask her if I can touch her thighs/if I can place my head between her thighs.
>>50814982Have a several month long situationship that ends up going nowhere
>>50815040No.
>>50816598Here's your normie hetslop.
>>50816622They both have homosexual tendencies, tho.
>>50816683Shirou doesn't have such proclivities and Seiba doesn't count since she's a woman.
>>50816688>Shirou doesn't have such proclivitiesLOL, LMAO.>Seiba doesn't count since she's a womanLOL, LMAO harder.
>>50816622And it's a good thing!
https://x.com/QQEZnZDxDZojzhB/status/2037107809725428211
>>50818002Nightmare fuel.
>>50816864Based. We actually need more het normalcy.
I want an imoutoIllya's ass was too big I had to compress the image to post
His corpse really is front of me.
When will she start wearing a bra?
Is Fate Strange Fake any good?What do I need to watch before? I've watched everything except Case Files.
>>50819183>secondarylollmaoif you're that much of a lazy fuck then you don't need to WATCH anything else. just go and watch it, there will be parts and things you won't get at all and the anime skips a ton of shit but who cares it's not like you watch this shit for its substance, otherwise you'd be READING
>>50819260Imagine being that offended by someone's watching choices lmao
>>50819364He is right though
So no Rin kiss in UBW, I guess Nasu prefers taking it slow. 1 month after the grail war Shirou is still calling her Tohsaka and acting hetare. I think the writing philosophy here is to be cautious with giving readers what they want, for multiple reasons. Also helps understanding why Mahoyo is written like that or why Shirou is so weak for most of the story's duration when it's basically a chuunige.
>>50819369>basement dweller is right
>>50819432UBW is Shiro's route, I liked the romance between him and Tohsaka more in the Fate route
>>50819364Imagine asking such a retarded question and being a little lazy bitch. Narita uses a shit ton of stuff from a ton of TM works, and a fucking secondary will NOT understand half this shit.
>>50819446Losers with too much time on their hands DO tend to know better about things like this than tourist normies who watch it absentmindedly for the hype moments and aura; for they spend far more time with the works in their original forms and thus have a better understanding of them. Strange Fake takes TONS stuff from Tsukihime, KnK, Fate, Mahoyo, etc etc, Narita is a TM scholar and SF is basically FGO if it was good. I suppose given the anime has less content, you'd be better off, but missing Tsukihime is still a lot, given the role DAs and the Church play here.You will still enjoy it, but don't expect to understand too much.
>>50819487I said I watched all fate anime shit except Case files which was enough to trigger one or more basement dwellers just breathe and fix those reading comprehension skills I dunno
>watched
>>50819432Doesn't Rin in the UBW timeline end up having Tohsaka babies with a literally who faceless character? I don't think it works out for Shirou and her in UBW, it also doesn't work out for them in Fate because Shirou eventually becomes red man. As a hero he never finds love, he just travels the world fucking random brown women he saves and collecting STDs until eventually some terrorist bitch puts a bullet through his head when his guard is down. That's how he dies at 38-40 years old. Random Shirou lore dropped by Nasu in interviews.
>>50819514>02I also read Tsukihime and all the other crap
>>50819520>licked
>>50819514You didn't even fucking watch KnK? LOL
>>50819523"All that other crap" being what? You're worthy of some respect having read Tsukihime, but don't expect to come to a board (or anywhere like this really) and expect not to be shat on by people for watching and not reading.If you truly care, please read the LN after reading whatever you haven't read out of this list, your experience will be better that way:MahoyoKara no KyoukaiTsukihime (Remake is not necessary but it's likely that SOME things from it will be used in Volume 10)Kagetsu Tohya (read the non joke/hentai side stories)Melty Blood ReACT, Melty Blood Act Cadenza, Melty Blood Actress AgainFate Stay NightFate Hollow AtaraxiaFate Zeroaaaaaand that's about it more or less, CF exists but SF does everything taken from it better so it's not really necessary.If you're insisting in being a secondary, then at least watch Kara no Kyoukai.
>>50819562nta>Melty Bloodfuck fighting games>Fate Zerolol
>>50819570If you don't like fighting games then at least watch it. It still offers important insight.If you don't like Fate Zero that's fine, but SF literally takes whole ass scenes from it and a character. It's important for the story.
It's autistic to keep up with the whole Nasuverse just because you got psyop'd by FGO. Enjoy your favorite series, consume the supplementary stuff, maybe check out a spinoff game and you're good. Personally I couldn't get into Mahoyo.
>>50819638>just because you got psyop'd by FGO???Artoria embed btw lmao. Very telling.Regrettable that you couldn't get into Mahoyo, but you're still underselling the importance of the titles in the Nasuverse. SF is literally the worst place to start with for newcomers and even secondaries, it has so much stuff from so many places that you're gonna be googling shit every 2 minutes or just be confused by shit you don't understand. Why not just watch/read the other titles that you can and find enjoyable before SF, why this pretentiousness of "oh you can just do X whenever lmao dw"? Same applies to people who say "you can start with Zero", DON'T. IT SPOILS SO MUCH SHIT FOR FSN. THEY EVEN DELIBERATELY DELAYED 0 TO RELEASE FHA FIRST.
>>50819551>49I fucking did.
>>50819562I want to first see the anime and then read the LN since there's way too many cuts apparently. It's just that I wanna know if I'll miss a lot of things for not having seen Case Files since I've heard it sucks that's it. I don't see the point consuming everything Type Moon shits just because it's Type Moon let's be real.Also, usually I watch the adaptations first and then I read the adapted material.
>>50819448>UBW is Shiro's routeInteresting way to look at it, but Rin clearly is also the central UBW heroine. I thought the cohabitation brought them a bit closer in the Fate route in some respects, there are things about Shirou she learns much later in UBW because of that. Romance was kind of mixed, the whole Gandr segment was hilarious, and the way she dropped Shirou after he lost Saber was cold in a good way that fit her character. Some of the later confession or date scenes seemed more generic, unsatisfying but the endings made up for that imo.
>>50819521Really? Lol. I thought UBW ending implies future Rin staying by his side in order for him not to become red man, with her saying she wants to turn him into a new man and make him happy, basically fulfilling Archer's last request. It's funny, I've literally only read F/SN, didn't watch any anime, and have no idea about all the post F/SN lore. Maybe I should just read some wiki and accept all spoilers. This stuff sounds a bit outlandish though.
>>50820219You should be doing it the other way around if you ask me, but it's up to you I guess.Anyway CF is not necessary, it's not even canon to SF. Some cameos exist but that's about it basically.
Garden of Avalon is a good read. I didn't know this about Artoria
>>50820219since you plan on doing both I suggest you should read the LN first honestly.
>>50819638Honestly the stuff I did watch/play/read related to the nasuverse>Fate/stay night (ufotable) and heaven's feel>El-Melloi case files>Today's menu for the Emiya family>the tsukihime remake (I'm aware the web browser og exists, my brain is too tired to play another vn)>fate/strange fakeFunny enough my first introduction to nasuverse was actually the melty blood game I torrented way back, I had no fucking idea what it was about though, thought arcueid was a main villian and I found noel to be the cutest hag.It was only two months ago that I actually played the vn remake kek
>>50820689>>50821043Let's say, usually I prefer to save the best for last. I want to remain positively surprised in the end, and when reading, already knowing the established characters' seiyuu and visuals and whatnot. Not necessary, but a preference.
>>50821781boobs!
>>50820608You'd have to google translate Nasu interviews. He doesn't end up as archer in the UBW timeline, they just breakup for unknown reasons and Rin eventually has Tohsaka heirs with someone. UBW Shirou's life is okay, presumably he gets over Rin. Only Fate Shirou tries to carve his own path in life after Saber disappears and he trains like crazy until he eventually becomes archer. I was trying to be le funny with the STD shit, basically he does end up as a tall dark and handsome Chad that sleeps around with the women he saves but I think Nasu was implying that he yearned for Saber all his life and never found love. That's Fate Shirou's fate.
>>50821879Garcher's route is different from Fate route. I think. It's different, but it's mostly just Fate route without romance, so he doesn't become Garcher there either afaik.
>>50821781No wonder the Japanese birthrate is declining, boys these days would rather cut a beautiful girl into 17 pieces than motorboat her chest. Honestly, who does that to a stranger? So rude!
Accurate height difference.
>>50822489Semi related but we need more fanart of Gilgamesh and Arcueid together
>>50822522Would she hate him?
Sex
>>50822564sex 2
>>50822687Roa: It's like she was looking at walking garbage...
>>50822531I hope not...
Should I watch strange fake? I remember reading the manga a bit five years ago and dropping it because it was either no updates or lost interest. I forgot.
>>50823253Season one just wrapped up, so you can binge watch it all. Then you can suffer with the rest of us while waiting for season two to start.
>>50823253Nah, it's very mid.
>>50823253It has plenty of hype moments and aura. If you are happy with that then you can enjoy it too. As a product it delivers on what it promises.
>>50823319>>50823342Thanks for the insight but I think I'll pass. If it has a decent story like Fate Zero then I'd consider it.
>decent story>Fate Zero
>>50823370It's not decent, it's good actually and I won't pretend that I enjoy it ironically.
>>50823370It's a comparison from I what vividly remember reading FSF and watching FZ. I enjoyed it and that's all that matters.
>>50823389Sane and healthy mindset.
Sister stole my shirt but I stole her virginity
Have any of you completed Tsukihime on VNDS? Encountered any issues?https://github.com/BASLQC/vnds/wiki/List-of-VNDS-Visual-Novels
>>50823439
>>50823353it's just as good as zero as an LN but the adaptation is very rushed
Bra? Not my Arc!That's an impostor.
i've never read a VN beforeis tsukihime really a good start
>>50823889Very.
>>50823378Need seiba-sensei.
>>50823889https://tsukiweb.holofield.fr/Find out for yourself anon
>>50823889Yeah basically, OG and remake.og is really easy to read but is rushed, it is far better overall but the Remake is also largely incomplete (2/7 routes).Another option is Mahoyo, it's the shortest out of the bunch and follows a simpler premise, but it depends on your tastes really, and it also depends on how good you are at reading and picking out foreshadowing and the like, mostly for Tsukiremake since OG lacks it.
>>50823915Is this really the full version? Wow.
>you suffered for eternity because you weren't autistic enough for seiba
I hate Fate/Extra so much, it's unreal.
>>50823912Sorry we only have baika-seiba!
>>50824644>Shikata ga nai...
Live in the Tohno mansion for a year, or live with the Matous for a year?
>>50824226nta but after the remake I was thinking on giving Mahoyo a try for the protagonist alonethis woman has been living in my head rent free every since I saw her in the remake>but the og tsukihimeI need some voice anons pls understand, and the 80's appeals more to me.
>X of swords in tarot = sudden endings, backstabbing, failure, despair, ruin, martyr, violence, overly dramatic, inability to copeAh, this is how Nasu must've came up with Archer.
>>50825772>burden, at breaking point, mental anguish, guilt, regret, remorse, focusing on past, subject of gossip, nightmares, insomnia, hormonal
What. A. Slut.
>>50825614depends on whether akiha likes me or not
>>50825856inaccurate breast size, but she is a slut regardless
>>50825751read mahoyo and then remake then, and while waiting for red garden read KnK and Fate.https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EDcmkYOeoIwnhM5ex50E-sGh4JuAmhpY for KnK btw, I'd recommend reading it after Mahoyo but it's your choice
>>50825772
>>50825940No, she's a pure girl.
Shirou is so gay
>>50826010she was run through before fsn
She's insane!I love her.
>>50823889Don't listen to that guy and just download the vn as is. It's just under 500mb, not that big. The experience reading the web visual novel is very inferior.
>>50826080>The experience reading the web visual novel is very inferiorIt has a flowchart, higher resolution than the original and all the bells and whistles of F/SN Remastered. What do you mean it's inferior? Does the site crash?
>>50826103Old good new bad, unironically
>finished Arc route>lost my save fileCan I skip Arc route to read the far side?
>>50826125That would require a route playthrough in the near side however. So just ctrl it I guess? Or if you wanna stomach c*el's route you're welcome to do so.
>>50826080>The experience reading the web visual novel is very inferior.I disagree. I read both the original VN and the browser version. The browser version is absolutely fine to use for a first playthrough>>50826125How the hell did you lose your savefile?
>>50826118Souka. >>50826125The browser version allows you to skip Near Side.
>>50826134I want to finish it once at least no matter how I dislike Ciel section.>>50826135I wiped out my computer.>>50826138thank
>>50826044Vile slanderer! Artoria was a pure 15 y/o when she pulled Caliburn out of the stone and she remained pure until her final moments a decade later.
>>50826143>I wiped out my computer.I hope that incident was unexpected. Because if you knowingly wiped your computer without backing up any important files first, then that's on you.
>>50826208Window bricked my computer, so I had to wipe it all out.The problem is that I have this bad habit of storing save files only after I complete it.
>>50826200You didn't read the VN did you (like the average Artoria fan)? Gilgamesh says "It's not like you're a virgin" and she also says something along the lines of "I know what pleases men", also her cherry doesn't pop in her h scene
>>50826212Why is Archer so low iq
>>50826262What about Rin?
>>50826262Doesn't Gilgamesh make his grand entrance after Illya joins the party? After Shirou/Rin do the mana transfer.
>>50826103The old Ui just looks way better and fits the novel. The flowchart is helpful for re-readng specific scenes but none of the other quality of life stuff really matters.
>>50826447Good point, but he says it in the censored versions as well. And the way he says it hints heavily at it happening during her lifetime
>>50826413Rin bleeds in her H-scene, if that's what you're asking.
>>50826469>And the way he says it hints heavily-At him being a misogynist calling all women whores? Yes.
>>50826519He probably saw that she wasn't a virgin through clairvoyance in the 4th HGW. Shit, even with the mud debuff he should be able to ascertain that much.Still, she doesn't bleed in either of her h-scenes.
>>50825944Is this a newer/better translation than the torrent in the OP?
>>50823907>>50823915>>50824226>>50826080just downloaded it, going to give it a try once i finish some stuff.some characters look very cute.
>>50826200She isn't run-through like what that retard imply, but it's safe to assume that she has some experience with Guinevere thank to Merlin futa dick magic
>>50825614evil ass rape mansion where i'm doing the raping (of a sexy jk, two hot maids, and possibly an evil titcow vampire) or evil ass rape mansion where i'm noteasiest decision of my life
>>50825614Either of those imply that I'm on good terms with the owners of the mansion, if I'm just a guest then the Tohno mansion but if I'm on good terms with Shinji we're double teaming Sakura.
When They Blush
>>50828082Ilya's barefoot soles....
>>50827864>she's not run through like what that retard implyESL>brings up FGO futa retconlol
>>50827097It's the best one available at the moment. Last updated with a new translation for Part 5 on March 6.
>>50828455inb4 "gore of my comfort character"
>>50828628Bitch had it coming and I was so annoyed that in Fate there's no way to make Shirou kick her out.
>>50826462Must... obey... Akiha...
Weird how in Heaven's Feel remastered Shirou apologizes to Sakura after the second blood sucking night. It's like the og text wasn't adjusted enough to really make sense.
>>50828639I think Gil reacts like that because originally, Berserker was meant to sever his arm during that fight.I wish this happened, it would make the fight later make more sense too (also mandatory Lio reference)
There should be a Mahoyo patch that lets you read the story with all the extra scenes integrated where they fit chronologically into one continuous experience.
>>50829485There aren't a lot of out of order extra scenes man, and for the ones that are it's intentional. That's like saying KnK should be read/watched in chronological order.Unless you want it for replays or whatever which is okay I guess but still kind of pointless
> "None of your skills will be any use against a Servant. In that case, at least imagine it. If it is an opponent you cannot match in real life, beat it in your imagination. If you cannot beat it yourself, imagine something that you could beat it with.">proceed to asspull CaliburnThe ultimate power is just faking it til you make it?
Aoko tenderly kissing Alice's neck while Soujuurou tastes Eiri's glistening lips.
>>50830586>just faking it til you make it?Yeah, most people don't really want to accomplish their goals hard enough to actually try, what they call their best is 70% at most and their methods are the first thing they find in a youtube tutorial video. It also helps that Gilgamesh is a glass cannon.
>>50830586This is like 60% of Fate (they unironically use God to compare shit)
>>50830586It's one of the central themes in UBW. Gilgamesh calls Archer a faker. The conflict between original vs. imitation. Shirou imitating Kiritsugu. Etc.
Massaging Aoko's breasts
>>50830938She wouldn't enjoy it because she's a girlboss queen.
>>50831054She's a horny female in heat
>>50831055There isn't really a single horny Aoko moment in the entire novel. Same for Alice.
>>50831106She's a female with large breasts hello
>>50831106Except when they see Soujuurou with his top off.
This looks neat. I'm not sure if it's AI generated or not but I just think it's worth sharing. Ignore the last part.https://youtu.be/p69MD-Zo3j8
>>50831420This one's good too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawaeAcD-fo
>Strange Fake Labubus
>>50830727
>>50832147I wish Illya wasn't a loli
>>50832280Why is that
>>50832280Gay
>>50832280Her mom is non loli Illya.
>>50818495Rin having the smallest hips of the group is hilariousWorst girl confirmed
>>50832486It's Miyu's story
>>50832486The artstyle simple sucks. It also makes the lolis look as tall as her for some reason.
>>50818495ok but when's the new season...
>>50832653literally me
>>50832313It's gay to not like little girls who haven't matured physically and haven't gotten to puberty who look like little boys? Retarded shitskin homosexual.
>>50832792it's gay to poo your pants, but you keep doing it anyway
>>50832367True, but still. A VN is a VN and as such Illya just has more screentime in comparison, besides her mom is quite older compared to what a late teenager would look like
>>50832792They don't look like little boys, they look like little girls
>>50832794What kind of a fucking comeback is that? Are you an Indian or something?Pic not related by the way just felt like embedding
>>50832796Physically, not face wise bruh. At that point it's the closest to a girl they'll be. Shit, even Shiki calls DAN's loli appearance undergrown and pities how it's her "best" form.
This is not the time to fight!
>>50832803closest to a boy* whatever. Fucking hate how I can't delete the post right after posting. Anyway you don't need to call normal people faggots just admit you're a lolicon and move on it's not that deep
>>50832807
>>50832834The "thing" I have for them is pure.
>>50832800you're the pants-pooer, so you must be the most Indian here really
>>50832898Whatever bro, here have some bunny Ryougi
Anything I should actually be aware of before playing Extra+CCC? Don't need like a walkthrough or anything but just in case there's some stuff that's poorly explained/I should be aware of first.I'm mostly asking since I haven't played real vidya in forever.
>>50833021I guess my main question is what's the deal with the routes? Does every servant have a unique story and then their own separate endings?
This is a pretty goofy resolution. Didn't like the true end that much. Illya scene was good tho. Maybe he should've become a heroic spirit instead of "we've made a copy". Also I notice the same pattern of protagonist dying and resurrecting from Mahoyo lol.
>>50833082in CCC they don't have unique routes but do have unique endings
>girl confesses to you>slit her throatWhat was Shiki's problem?
>>50833021In Chapter 1 of CCC, talk to Leo, borrow money from him and go and get the Old School Uniform and give it to Sakura. His servant will then kick your ass and leave you at one HP. But anyway, this unlocks the true ending, when you get to the end of the game you'll be given two choices, (obviously save before this) get the normal ending first and then get the true ending.As for servants, it's up to you, for Extra I'd recommend Caster but Saber also works, if you're patient then I'd recommend going with Caster first and then picking Rani midgame, and in NG+ pick Saber and then Rin. CCC doesn't have such a split sadly, but either way you get two unique bosses each route by doing this (though Rani's route is just better imo), I recommend doing Taiga's quests in both runs, but if you're impatient just do it in NG+, if you do all of them you unlock a secret boss in the endgame dungeon.For CCC, you can pick anyone you want really, personally I'd recommend Gilgamesh but again, it's up to you. Probably pick a female character if you're going for a male servant though, for Nameless (Garcher clone) you get an extra scene and for Gil... it's just better harmony imo but it doesn't REALLY matter. Female Hakuno is more popular. Hakuno Kishinami is the default name, I recommend putting it in as your name and surname, and then "Hakunon" as your nickname. You can bind R2 or whichever button you prefer to speeding up the game, helps with the grind a lot.Oh and also, use these links please:Extra:https://cdromance.org/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hackCCC:https://archive.org/details/fateextra-ccc-englishYou won't have a lot of "fun" but I wish you enjoyment either way. It's worth going through Extra for CCC, CCC is REALLY good.
>>50833021>>50833734Normal Endings of servants are nonserious, so after getting the Normal Ending and then True Ending you can just look up the other servants' endings on youtube. It's really not worth going through NG+ in CCC, unless you REALLY like two or more servants and want to know EVERYTHING about them.
>>50833082Oh and I should clarify here, CCC has servant endings. Extra is only a change in dialogue. As I said, do Normal Ending for your servant first, reload your save, and then do the True Ending. You can look the rest of the Normal Endings on YouTube.
>>50833161Yeah, FSN takes a lot from Mahoyo and NOT vice versa, similarly to how every Nasu villain is based on Araya Souren in some way.
>>50833021Oh and don't worry, the Extra games are really easy. If you find yourself annoyed too much you can just look up enemy patterns but it's really not difficult enough to cheat imo. It's a cakewalk when you get the hang of it.
>>50830586>>50830727>Nasu will spend 40 hours explaining in painstaking detail how Shirou could potentially exploit the system like abusing a glitch in a vidya to forge a B+ rank weapon capable of damaging Gilgamesh>JJK zoomers will call it an asspull because they're too retarded to pay attentionAmazing.
>>50834235>damaging GilgameshWho is squishy without his armor.Also, We are talking about Herc vs Caliburn, dumbass.Even then, it was just a joke about Caliburn killing Herc 7 times.
>>50834235It's bad with or without foreshadowing. Want good foreshadowing? Read Tsukihime Remake. Want to see abilities that make sense and the concept of Origins not being butchered? Read Kara no Kyoukai. Want a story (which FSN was based on) which uses most of its character archetypes far better and has better expositions? Read Mahoyo.I had never consumed a shonen or anything of the sort before FSN. I never watched JJK or any of that mainstream shit. It's bad. It reeks of Nasu having to make up a new protagonist after Ayaka (who was in his head for a decade by that point) got scrapped because of the genderbending of Arthur for fanservice and eroge purposes (fuck you Takeuchi).It makes ZERO sense whatsoever that he can block Berserker's attacks, something Saber can barely manage. Tsukihime is the better shonen title anyway, in both its Original and Remake forms. MEoDP > the Gilgamesh ripoff abilities Shirou possesses. Fate is overrated by people who LOVE shonen shit, not hated by shonen obsessed anime tourists like you believe.
>>50834683>It's badThat's, like, your opinion man. I've showed you that it makes sense, whether you like F/SN or not comes down to personal preference.
>>50834703It doesn't really make sense IN MY OPINION. It feels forced as fuck. It feels very artificial. It's 1:1 with Gilgamesh's shit, oh the RM isn't bound by time despite him taking 20 years to make it normally. Why? Fuck you that's why. It's not some godly ability or anything and he's not connected to the root either, so why? Oh, the reason is because Gil is cool and Nasu wanted the shonen prot to feel epic and shiiiit. The worst example has to be him projecting Rule Breaker. Holy shit that one is bad.
>>50834703>taking a post that reek of inferiority complex seriously.
>>50833734>>50833947>>50833948>>50833953>>50833956Hey thanks a ton, that answered everything I could have asked.I did start last night and I'm enjoying the little bit of Extra I've seen. I get the complaints about the combat already, but so far it's not too bad. I would kill for a run button though. (Will probably just speed up revisiting dungeons)
>>50834733You get a Mystic Code that lets you move faster, but don't use it in NG+ as it breaks an event there.Also yeah, the combat isn't as bad as people say, my main complaint is that by lategame and endgame it becomes pretty easy.CCC combat is better but it's not a massive difference. However, CCC is far more fleshed out as a product in general (some say it is VN tier and has some of Nasu's best writing, it was written at the same time as Mahoyo and Tsukihime Remake so go figure), you can see Extra as the Fate route compared to UBW and HF, though Extra and CCC are day and night in comparison.
>>50834861There's also Last Encore, which you can check out after finishing the games.
>>50834867>Last EncoreI was told that anime sucks major ass. Any truth to that?
>>50834914Mostly because people who watched it didn't play the games. It's not bad at all, but you might still not like it after playing the games, everyone has their own takes after all. You have people around who think that OG Tsukihime is better than Remake because "No Nrvnqsr" (lie), "worse artstyle" (subjective) and you also have people saying KnK is the worst TM product. It depends on your perspective and how you see things
>>50834931>You have people around who think that OG Tsukihime is better than RemakeI mean they aren't wrong.
>>50835144It's better in almost every way, the most important of these being writing.
>>50834931>"No Nrvnqsr" (lie)He makes no direct physical appearance in the remake. So no, it's not a lie.
>>50835153You haven't even played the remake.
>>50835153Because he's long dead or whatever Arcueid said.
>>50835155Go ahead. Show me a CG where he's present. Go ahead. I'll wait.
>>50835161I like how no direct physical appearance immediately became no CG.
>>50835179>moving the goalpostShow me where he makes a physical appearance in the remake. Oh wait, you can't. Became last time I checked, Nrvnqs was replaced by Vlov Arkhangel.
>>50835189In the Wandering Sea with Roa.
>>50835151I would appreciate it if you would stop presenting your opinions as if they were fact. You're allowed to have a preference, but that's all it is.
>>50835151That's subjective. i don't like the way tsuki re is written.
>>50835195A disembodied voice is not a physical appearance.
>>50835206Just because there's no art asset doesn't mean he hasn't made a physical appearance. The scene is him talking to Roa. It's not reported speech or indirect at all.
Everybody treating Hakuno like a retarded jobber is a pretty funny change of pace. So far all Rin's done is shittalk me and molest me.
Queer Fate/Extra fans are the subhumans of the Type-Moon fandom.
BGM would've worked as a standalone game if Nasu made the other girls act more indifferent towards Shiki, like if Akiha didn't blush like a retard a couple of times new players would think that she's not getting a route. Then Nasu would have an excuse to not make Red Garden.
>>50835153I was referring to people saying that he's not involved at all, which is just wrong. But even then, it's not the Remake's fault, but Nasu's for not releasing Red Garden.
Every single remake design is worse and this is basically an objective fact. That alone completely turns me off.
>>50835389they're better if you start with the remake, but if you've already played the og why play the remake at all?? once red garden comes out remake players also won't have any reason to play the og
>>50835396>once red garden comes out remake players also won't have any reason to play the ogThe fact that they're completely fucking different games will be a pretty valid reason forever to either play one or both.
>>50835156He's not long dead. This is a common misconception. No translation says this. Arcueid never even directly states that he died. She refers to him two times, in the first she says that the DA who had the ability to have more than one familiar isn't around anymore, and in the other she says there are no DAAs left in Japan.Arcueid and Nrvnqsr fight each other during approximately a 12 hour time period between Day 2 to Day 3. This is why Shiki feels an itch in his throat after being sexually harassed by Noel on his way to school, and it is also why Nanaya notes that she was "tired, coming back from a big job" and why her death resistance stat was lowered. Either Nrvnqsr ran out of sustenance/energy and fled, or Arcueid killed him but ultimately failed to dispose of his Chaos, which is immortal. It would explain her indirect behavior, but it's one of these two. She also patches Shiki up with a piece of him.Nrvnqsr moves on Roa's request (as opposed to Trhvmn Ortenrosse's orders in the original VN) to capture her for his ritual. In the original VN, it is merely a coincidence that they end up in the same city.Anyway, the reason the Apoc artist also drew Nrvnqsr (embedded) is because he is present during the events of the VN, though ultimately unseen.He will appear in Sacchin's route. It should also be noted that Nrvnqsr was not supposed to show up in the original VN, he was originally only supposed to be mentioned, and was added later, this is why he is killed in such a manner so early in the VN and why Nasu is so regretful over having to have done something like that. Vlov on the other hand, while certainly being a massive threat, is a much weaker enemy in comparison, and serves as a midboss far better while being more of a "character" with more/better motivations and a backstory compared to the original VN's Nrvnqsr.Also the convo between him and Roa is kept with some differences so he technically is present, though not visually yeah.
>>50835199Sure, but plot holes being fixed is objectively an improvement I think. Refer to maids
>>50835389Akiha and Satsuki grew on me, the others are either worse or about the same.Noel and Vlov are the best new designs (DA Noel sucks though).
>>50835389Not EVERY single one. I disagree with that. Sacchin is identical, Hisui got insane favoritism from Takeuchi (+saberface harmony), Vlov, Gotou, Mio and Mario & Co are also drawn pretty well (though yes, they are new characters. But Vlov has the best sprites Takeuchi has ever made so I have hope for the new characters at least). I'd say Arcueid is a mixed bag (is DRAWN better but designwise is worse, even if I like the boots more), Akiha is more or less the same (hopefully Vermillion Akiha has her OG clothes) and Roa... you won't see the funny slicked back design again, SHIKI-Roa (OG Roa design) in the Remake will be SHIKI's design until he takes full control again and returns to his OG design (likely picrel).
>>50835426...and obviously True Roa looks different to the Roa you're more familiar with.
>>50835410>Nrvnqsr moves on Roa's request (as opposed to Trhvmn Ortenrosse's orders in the original VN) to capture her for his ritual. In the original VN, it is merely a coincidence that they end up in the same city.What makes you think the original and remake are different here? Don't we only have the Wandering Sea scene to go on?
>>50835475Roa asks him to do it in both, but in the OG Nrvnqsr only moves on Ortenrosse's orders, he basically sends him on a hunt game.It's in Plus Period and the Act Cadenza PS2 Manual."17/ Trhvmn OrtenrosseOne of the longest-serving Dead Apostles. The White Wing Lord. A magus who became a bloodsucker. The quintessential vampire. King of the Dead Apostles. As the official representative of the 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors he has the greatest influence – formally, at least. In practice, however, Altrouge's influence is even greater, and the two are constantly at odds. Also, Trhvmn was the Dead Apostle who proposed they start hunting True Ancestors. In a sense, he was the reason Nrvnqsr met his end in that far-off Eastern land.""Nrvnqsr Chaos [Person's name • Dead Apostle]One of the 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors. Alias, Chaos. He uses all the creatures of the earth as familiars. Because of the fact that he is preserving even extinct species, he is also sometimes called Dr. Beast.Though he had no business in Japan, he was selected as the executor of the True Ancestor hunt proposed by the White Wing Lord, and followed Arcueid to the island nation in order to defeat her."
>>50835389Fate route makes a passionate case for letting the past be the past, with all its flaws, giving up on the desire of changing or redoing what's done. And yet Nasu does remakes. Wtf.
>>50835551Nasu has wanted to remake Tsukihime since before Fate came out.Nasu isn't 100% happy with FSN. He wants to remake that too, but thankfully it'll never happen. He wasn't happy with the Mahoyo LN either, that's why it was never released.
>>50835540I just don't see what makes the remake different.
>>50835604this is why artists should have minimal control over their IPs. they're all mentally ill, as soon as they blow up in popularity they want to spend the rest of their lives fiddling with their old work to make it "perfect" but they can only make it worse because the ideas they have now as mature jaded boomers will never be as cool and inspirational as the ideas they had as fiery 15-22 year olds. just let it be Nasu! it's ok to cringe at something you wrote 30 years ago
>>50835663Nrvnqsr moves without Ortenrosse ordering him to, it's all coordinated this time around. Nrvnqsr knows Roa is in the city. It's all preparations for his big ritual.
>>50835668Idk man. Would you rather take the first half of Ciel's route being near identical to Arc's and shit like the Hisui route bedridden Shiki over the French Incident? Over Roa's fleshed out backstory? People like you are really tasteless and operate solely on a contrarian "old good, new bad" worldview, and refuse to see the good in new things. Most new things might suck but the exceptions don't magically become shitty just because the rest is.
>>50835692I mean maybe. Although we do see Trhvmn in the French incident so he's probably involved anyway.
>>50815040Yes.Do you prefer them lovey-dovey squabbling or full blown attempted murdering?
>>50835413Fixing plot holes doesn't really matter when the story is less interesting. So it would overall be a downgrade.
>>50835617Touko is 100% heterosexual.
>>50836507That's an insane take. How is the story LESS interesting? Did you even read the VN? If you did, were you even paying attention?
>>50835413What plot holes were fixed again?
>>50836270Seiba could shrug away his sexism and tame him.
>>50837094Shiki only seeing Roa's dreams in Ciel's route makes sense now since he gets possessed by him far earlier.Maids are foreshadowed properly and Kohaku is drugging Shiki as early as Day 1, whereas in the OG, since the maid routes were shoehorned into the VN later, they have no such role and Kohaku suddenly starts doing shit in Hisui's route.Just two examples.
>>50836988I read the fucking vn twice.>How is the story LESS interesting?Ignoring arcs route which is basically the same, Ciel's route is just not that interesting when its stretched out into a 30 hour route. CIel/noel are good characters but are not really interesting enough to carry a 30 hour route. The route is filled with un-interesting mysteries, characters like Arc and Mario who do nothing interesting the plot until the last 5 hours and the entire route feels like its padding for time. The og route is shorter and has less shit in it but is more fast paced and engaging.
>>50837259Oh I get it, you must LOVE gacha games. It all makes sense now.
If I wanted to go on twitter I'd go there textless image posters
>>50838012I go there and I don't find all the art posted here, unless it got a lot of likes or it's a character the algorithm knows that I like. What he is doing is more than justified.
>>50838012Better than nothing being posted if you ask me. Besides, not everyone has Twitter or cares enough to go on it daily.
>>50838516Do you think Akiha would step on me if I asked politely?
>>50839364he did akiha a favor by impregnating the canon woman-devouring futanari sex monster before she could get her hands on the ladies of the mansion
>>50839002She would make confused bottom noises and do it reluctantly.
>>50839746That's the best way to do it
It's time.
>>50840083Those things are the laziest sex products out of japan, you have custom /ona/holes made with a certain character in mind and then there's Tenga just putting art of your waifu on the box. It's lazy.
>>50837311Nta but if you like Tsukire more than the original then you most likely will be able to enjoy FGO too. A lot of the new elements from Tsukire (from character/weapon deseigns to bgm to art) seem to be made with FGO fans in mind. Vlov for example looks like a FGO servant. One thing I noticed playing Tsukire is Typemoon is much better at cutting corners now, they know what most of their audience will look at from their experiences working on FGO. But everything doesn't mesh together as well as their old works.When you have scenes like Shiki thinking about how Makihisa is old fashioned and things won't work like old times anymore or how the scene where they try to lure Vlov to the park in Arc route basically says "new good old bad" and "fuck old Typemoon's rules", I can not help but thinking Nasu is trying to send a messenge here.
>>50840946>scenes like Shiki thinking about how Makihisa is old fashioned and things won't work like old times anymoreHow is acting like a dickhead noble not old fashioned as fuck? Makihisa was telling a like 6-7 year old Shiki not to play outside with inferior kids because his blood is superior and his definition of "inferior" was kids with parents that are not rich.
>>50840946You have a warped perspective
Can someone provide pdf/epub of the Fate Prototype LN english translations. All 5 vol
Who let her become a magical girl??
>>50841297It would be a long night with her.
Not much Rin in Ataraxia. Wonder if the voice actress was busy or something.
>the dude nobody invited
>>50840966Well, I'm not talking about Makihisa's opinion in the story but rather the overall feeling I got from that scene. Like how Shiki thinks that he can't logically refute Makihisa but he disagrees with him anyway and the whole "doing things the old ways won't work anymore, man" vibe.>>50841130You can't covince me Ciel's bow, Arach, Noel's vampire form, etc... aren't things Nasu pull straight out of FGO. The weapons in FSN are much more elegant, even Ciel's old pilebunker is better.
>>50841297bunny suit is so slutty
>>50841375at most they're CCC shit (which was written at the same time as Tsukihime Remake) not FGO
>>50841375>even Ciel's old pilebunker is better.Exquisite taste, anon.
Blue Glass Moon's development started so fucking long ago that when Nasu finished the story and most of the sprites were done, only 12 years had passed since the original game's release, compared to the 14 years that have passed since.
This is obviously not the Rin from F/SN, this is some hallucination Shirou has in the time loop anomaly. Rider is probably raping him right now, or maybe Kirei.
>>50841909You are reading hollow ataraxia for the first time?Yeah, she doesn't feel the same here, probably some hack was writing her scenes.
>>50841952Yeah, the Bazett story is pretty good so far, but it feels like 5 hours sprinkled between 50 hours of these skits that often feel like written by other people.
Shirou finds out he is not gay.
>>50842002Because they are. Nasu wrote the main story, most of the rest is by guest writers.Reading doujinshi is more fun than what they came up with.
>>50842017I know but I would have expected him to look over that stuff and make more adjustments to get the tone right. He probably did do that, maybe the original drafts were even worse lol.
I love seifuku ojou and granny skirt
>>50843086Aoko is 100% heterosexual.
>>50842008How does no one notice the pitched tent? Does he have a micro penis in Ataraxia?
>>50843968Looking at some of the cgs, he is a 4 incher there.
Stuck in Ataraxia at 82.9%. I did "It's the fourth time" at church with Karen but somehow can't get to "Last Time". No new content, endless loop. I skipped the Outskirts minigame, maybe I have to do that after all.
>>50844102Okay that minigame could be beaten in 5 minutes, new content unlocked. Weird I read it's optional huh.
>>50844121It's been ages since I played but don't you need to beat Illya's Castle to get to the castle in the first place?
>>50844305Yes that's the whole purpose of the Akumajo Dracula quest
>>50841909I'm almost surprised there wasn't more backlash against Fate/hollow ataraxia. We never actually meet the real Shirou, Saber, Rin etc. All the characters we see are projections of Angra's mind, based on the information he received from the grail (except maybe Caren/Bazett I guess). The real characters are doing different things in Fuyuki 6-8 months after the war while we watch a Angra's fake dream world. The slice-of-life scenes written by other writers are supposed to feel """hollow""", a bit simplistic, fanservice-y. Angra is dreaming of being Shirou, living the life of an eroge protagonist. The loop of peaceful days is like the escapist otaku fiction people consume. Angra/Bazett end up deciding to leave that world of comforting fiction behind in order to face reality and accept the struggle and suffering of life etc. Clever concept, but comes at the price of the "it didn't really happen/was just a dream" mixed feelings. The Bazett/Angra parts had some really good moments I guess.
>>50844638Quality matters in these things.
>>50845012After Sacchin gets her route, people will be asking for a Noel route the next 20 years
>>50845156grown vnoel <3
>first day Shiki is late>Akiha sends him to bed without supper>Kohaku sneaks him some onigiri and miso soup>'as long as I serve in this household no one shall go to bed hungry'>Ciel route>Shiki locks himself in his room as he loses his mind with hunger>Kohaku brings dinner again>choice to tell her to leave the food at the door or just fuck off>either way she enters using a master key>she doesn't actually carry a tray or any food for that matter>she just approaches Shikikino
>>50845342Kohaku is the only maid I ever wanted no syringes
What the fuck, I was watching some reactions from Strange Fake Whispers of Dawn and I totally missed the fucking after credit scene. I had no clue ORT was involved in SF story
>>50846124Zelretch mentions him, speedwatcher.
>>50845156tsukire part 3 in 2087 with a full noel route as well as aoko and fgo collab routes, trust
least insane mahoyo fans
>>50845840Obsessed with run through rape victims
Illya has risen
>>50847294Well, her body count is still lower than that of a non rape victim.
>>50847464Can't argue against that.
>>50848007is that AI? cuz her pinkie is longer than my cock
>>50848271no lmao some artists just like drawing it like that no offense but you have a poor eye for AI
>>50848435>no offense but you have a poor eye for AIHe also has a 4 incher.
>>50848271Many artists struggle with hands. Old Takeuchi can confirm.
>>50848455Wow! Just like my favorite hecking wholesome savior complex and survivors guilt carrying ginger Japanese shonen protagonist!
>>50848507Takeuchi struggled more with necks, foreheads and facial proportions than he did with fingers if you ask me. Too bad Koyama still does it better.
>>50848748There's no way he's that small, right? I feel like it would be gay to look up the old CGs just to measure Shirou's dick.
>>50848755This sprite lives rent free in my head, so I am biased.
Ciel's fingers
>>50849021What about them?
>>50849047They are fucked up and sexy
>>50849047Arcueid broke them
>>50849049They don't look that bad. I've seen more poorly drawn fingers than this.
>>50848861The Rin sprites of F/SN are kind of genius.
>>50849063The face expressions are so cute, but he had to ruin it with the limbs.
>>50849063I liked it when Rin put on some glasses.
I like the sprite of Rin where she does heroine
>>50849085That was Rin just drawing blood for her Gem Magecraft.
>>50849089German girls are sluts for drugs
The Rin sprite that launched a spinoff.
>>50849079The limbs are part of the experience, campy '00s doujin feels
So Saber/Rin/Sakura/Illya all have European ancestry for some reason, but Aoko is fully Japanese.
>>50849205Rin getting forced to take hard drugs by rich old men and becoming an addict whore...
>>50846153>reads the Wiki>zelretch is wizard king or something, capable of using the second magicOk>read up on second magic>parallel worlds so even if one world is fucked, another can thriveOk so he's responsible for all this spin off nonsense from Nasu>zelretch is most well known for defeating Crimson Moon>also known as Archetype: celestial body...>type moonMind = blown
>>50850101Zelretch is most notable for causing >>50849222
>>50849370Nasu has a pretty European mind. His stories are often about chivalric-style male devotion to women, with protagonists being willing to die for women or accept self-destruction or self-sacrifice. I'd be surprised if this is particularly common in (classic) Japanese literature. I think this is historically more a Northwestern European development where women had greater say in mate choice, selecting among competing suitors, basically driving sexual selection like today (instead of an arranged marriage system). This contributed to the emergence of European chivalric tradition where men prove themselves through bravery, loyalty, and devotion, basically submitting to the woman who will decide whether to grant affection or not. This doesn't really work in a culture where other people decide what man a woman is supposed to marry. This difference has probably pretty far-reaching implications for how narrative tropes developed.
>>50851263>European mind>chivalric-style male devotion to women, with protagonists being willing to die for women or accept self-destructionWhen you put it like that I can see why Europe is dying, simping was our original sin. It's fun to read about chivalry in stories with cute idealized virginal women, but actually trying to live those ideals in real life? Fuck no.
Big seductive tits for seducing males
>>50852336And that huge tent her cock is pitching?
I thought Fate Shirou would stop using Caliburn at some point and switch to dual-wielding, but there is this version of Shirou who use a katana.
>>50853159that's a pseudoservant, like ishtar using rin's body.
>>50853276That's not the pseudo-servant.This was the original design for Peak Shirou as a mage, and then Takeuchi reused it for Muramasa
>>50852336Seduction failed
>>50841320Just read more nigga
>>50841320It didn't have voice acting until 2016... FSN launched without voice acting too, same with Mahoyo.
>>50854034Strange choice, both titles are much better with voices. Hard to imagine reading it without Rin's oder Shirou's stellar voice acting.
Colosseum has some good tracks:https://youtu.be/SeFz212z5pQhttps://youtu.be/cJwj5-B7lL4>>50852336>>50853302Lovely.
>>50855600this is so fucking sad holy shit
>>50854135Nasu has a tendency of releasing his VNs half finished... or I guess 90-95% finished. Mahoyo was missing effects and shit and FSN had less CGs. Realta Nua is the "complete" version.
Kohaku and Hisui sitting in a tree...
>>50856310Good. Those maids need to get on that yardwork.
>>50854135>oderAnon...I wonder how different my perception to FSN and its character would have been if I read it without voice acting
Hate the french
>>50856347They really do, Makihisa's old garden is a mess and only Kohaku uses a small corner of it for her medical herbs. Gee, back in my day servants knew how to take care of a mansion properly and throw fireballs.
Where the fuck is Extra Record
Where the fuck is Extra Record?
>>50856593It's been put on indefinite hiatus.
>>50856593Extra Record is dead in the water. Niino is a hack and a fraud. Literally TM's potential man. Nasu's retarded friends couldn't finish a small scale remake in nearly a fucking decade, and the dumb fuck in charge lied to us several times. TWO FUCKING PUBLISHERS. What a joke of a company. Where's all that money going to, you deluded FGO shills?
Shitxtra sucks, tho.
I just now found out that Bandai cut ties with BB and Extra Record is delayed again. Which implies that the game is nowhere near finished! What the fuck man. I am so angry right now I might actually pass out.
>>50856821Meant for >>50856708>>50856725I only care because Extra Record was literally the only piece of TM content with a date of release. BUT I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER
>>50856708Wouldn't it be funny if Studio BB shuts down half a year from now haha.
Ciel is a losing heroine.
>>50856725It's really not THAT bad but gets heavily overshadowed by CCC. It's pretty night and day. Anyway, the remake would have MADE the game better, probably anyway, and added new content. Though if it's just better graphics and full VA and excludes shit like Berserker Enkidu, what is even the point?
>>50856593>>50856708>noooo I can't possibly play the PSP game muh graphics I need a remake!!!I'm glad Extra is dead, remakes are inherently slop.
>>50857586Nasu...
>>50856394Hey, I did that again. Sneaky German language.>>50856002I think there is an interview where he explains that he wanted to deliberately leave the voices to the imagination of the reader, but he seems to have changed his mind at some point, though maybe for commercial reasons.
>>50857657VA is too good. Taking Tsukihime, Akiha sounds perfect for example, it's basically what I imagined her to sound like, so it's just a straight upgrade at that point. Same with Vlov and pretty much everyone else. They all do their job nicely. I guess it's more convenient for us EOPs to imagine them speaking English given there's no VA in OG but I'll still take JP voices over nothing.Besides Tsukihime, can you imagine FSN without Kotomine's VA? I can't.
>>50857732>>50857736Are you ok anon?
>>50857586Should've read >>50857515 before jumping to conclusions. We expected a better written, more fleshed out game closer to CCC in its quality and more content (and obviously better combat), though ultimately there was no game. Graphics are meaningless since PSP Extra still looks appealing to me, that's not the point. Most people playing Extra don't care about the graphics anyway, it's literally a fucking anime RPG, did you even play this game?Tsukihime Remake is great, not that it was ever possible for them to dish out something of that caliber (maybe half of it), though you probably hate that too given your and like half the people here's absolute "old good, new bad" mentality. I will say this again, just because 95% of remakes are inferior to their original counterparts doesn't make the 5% shit as well. Nasu's remakes are some of the best examples of this.
>>50857737Thread isn't that active anyway so I just like polishing my posts to get the message across the best way I can. Maybe Beast's Lair is better for me...
Tfw no Shiki tumblr sexyman bf.
>>50857749you're not a woman though are you
>>50857754Woman but fat.
>>50857766lol you would've killed Shiki >>50857749
>>50857515>It's really not THAT bad but gets heavily overshadowed by CCC.It is, tho. And so is CCC, Extella Link and so on. The Extraverse sucks.
The ecchi is the saving grace of ccc anyway, remove it and it's the same quality as extra
Big cat? No, Arc is a big fluffy dog.
>>50857915A dog is fine too
Shirou and Shinji sitting in a tree...
>>50859322What is this exactly? vore?
>>50859366put pp in mouthussy
[lust provoking image]
>>50859737My king is so fucking sexy.
>>50859822her son (female) is sexier
Has it really been 5 months since some of us were hoping for a Red Garden update on New Years?
>>50859843I'm legit scared that Nasu will fucking die before we get Red Garden. Dude is not getting any younger.
>>50859843>>50859853The original slated releases at the time were:Tsukihime (2000) -> Kagetsu Tohya (2001) -> Melty Blood (2002) -> FSN (2004) -> FHA (2005) -> FZ (2006/2007) -> Strange Fake (2008) -> Mahoyo (early 2009) - > Nasu finishes up DDD -> Tsukihime Remake work begins and/or is release (late 2009) -> Mahoyo Chapter 2 work beginsInstead we got Mahoyo in 2012, Nasu never finished DDD, Tsukihime Remake in 2021, and Mahoyo will forever be an unfinished work>Classic Nasu1996 - Witch on the Holy Night draft1998-1999 - Kara no Kyoukai2000 - Tsukihime2001 - Kagetsu Tohya2002 - MELTY BLOOD (was suggested by Nobuya Narita of Watanabe Seisakujo (French-Bread, from 2003). Kinoko Nasu wrote scenarios and Takashi Takeuchi designed characters. Watanabe Seisakujo developed the game system and pixel arts. They were known as the creator of parody games, but Nasu requested not to break the style of Tsukihime)>Fate2004 - Fate/stay night (began development in 2002, after MB released)2005 - Fate/hollow ataraxia2006 - Fate/zero and DEEN/stay night2007 - DDD and Fate/stay night Realta Nua PS22008 - Girls Work, Tsukihime Remake and Mahoutsukai no Yoru trilogy announcement2010 - Fate/Extra (According to Takeuchi, Niinō personally developed the central storyline of the game while Nasu translated his ideas into text)2012 - Mahoyo (part 1 of 3), Fate/Apocrypha LN and Fate/stay night Realta Nua PSV2013 - Fate/Extra CCC (Nasu's passion project and swan song for Fate)2014 - Fate/hollow ataraxia PSV and UBW anime (Nasu was heavily involved in UBW anime)>FGO2015 - FGO and strange Fake LN2016 - FGO and Fate/Extella2017 - FGO2018 - FGO, Fate/Extra: Last Encore and Fate/Extella Link2019 - FGO2020 - FGO2021 - TsukiR (2 of 6 routes)2022 - FGO2023 - FGO2024 - FGO and Fate/stay night REMASTERED2025 - FGO 10th anniversary2026 - FGO2027 - FGO2028 - FGO2029 - FGO>Nasu: 笑笑笑笑
>>50860164of note is that (iirc) FGO, the UBW anime, and TsukiRe were intended to release around the same time and mesh together thematically, but various delays and production issues nixed thatiirc it was specifically mentioned that the Beast reveal in FGO was going to coincide with Gilgamesh revealing his plan for the Grail in the UBW anime
>>50859399Who does this appeal to?
>>50859737>FGO would have you believe the king's chest is mediumno shes itty bitty titty
Taking them off with my teeth
>>50860164You forgot Hollow Ataraxia Remastered, Strange Fake Anime (season 1), the Heaven's Feel Movies, the Mahoyo Movie, Type Lumina, and basically every light novel or manga. Also, I don't think future. Mahoyo sequels were mentioned until a 2012-2012 interview.
>>50862036Mahoyo sequels were first mentioned in early 2009.
>>50857325rape builds character!
I see. She has a bit of muscle in the remake but not enough, if you're gonna take her tattoos away at least put more definition on her biceps.
>>50865655Rin also does push-ups before going to bed, though this impacts her triceps more than her biceps.
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>>50866382Rin eats like a lady though, you need to overeat to build muscle (Saber/Ciel) and what you eat doesn't really matter since even inmates get buff on a diet of prison slop. Gladiator slaves used to build muscle on beans and barley. kek
>>50857900Did you even play Extra and CCC?Unless you just dislike the setting I don't get why you'd put CCC on the same boat as Extella. Extella and Extella Link suck but CCC? Not even close.
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>>50867941This guy is a weirdly competent slopper and also has consistently good and interesting choices for characters to slop.
>>50867988Are you referring to Takeuchi, Nasu or the fanartist? Excuse my ignorance
>>50867988I usually mute/block the ai people, but he is an exception and has a unique and good style, also chooses good series and characters.
>>50867988Man I had no idea when I saw that a few days ago.
>>50867168LOL, LMAO.
>>50868500that's AI? Damn...
>>50870658It's not "just" AI, his process apparently involves a good amount of his own drawing to clean up and paint over. it looks that good because he puts a lot of extra effort in, you can't just gen them to look that good.
>>50870884Might as well draw it yourself atp and avoid the AI label
>>50870898I believe the main benefit is that his output is crazy using this workflow, compared to what he could do if he was just drawing himself.
