Previous thread: >>50838339This thread is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels read untranslated in Japanese.What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?
>>50903764>What are you playing? NOTHINGWhat are you looking forward to? NOTHINGWhat have you finished?NOTHING
>>50904159This nigga died a month or two back. RIP.
>>50904176RIP to a real one
uh oh
So how's anemoi? I want to read it but it's a key game and sometimes they're great and sometimes they're terrible and sometimes they're great for 80 hours then so terrible at the end they're retroactively awful.
Check out these gigachads.
>>50904350nips cream their pants over Koyomi's route writing about how they cried hard and how much it moved them and it's best or second best route in the game, while simultaneously saying it's just classic predictable most Key-like route written by newbie writer, I honestly don't get them.It seems Awayuki route is experimental, others not so much. Also, no miracles and happy endings in the story this time at all.
>>50904550Does Awayuki ever stop being a slut?
>>50904555no
>>50904550>and it's best or second best route in the game, while simultaneously saying it's just classic predictable most Key-like route written by newbie writer, I honestly don't get them.What is there to get? All of the routes are just classic predictable most Key-like routes, it's all about exectution and if you either find the idea sentimental/beautitul or resonate with it thematically that will change how you feel about any given route.I only have Spica left, gonna do it now, but I also liked Koyomi route the best on all 3 of those frontsSomething that I find really annoying, is the overly formulaic way they try to make you emotinal, by first playing the "terjerker ost 1", then pause "louder terjerker ost 2"(this is your cue to cry), protagonist goes "why....am i crying?". They do this even in some sub routes and nothing takes me out of the experience more, I don't get who thinks this is a good way to do things.
>>50904639Ufff, very 意味深 change to the title screen.
>>50904331Uh boring
>>50904331Uh sex with sisters
>>50904331>>50904713This is how things should be.
>>50904639kino art
>>50904874literal NTR
>>50904639Funny when you break it down like that nakiges feel like horror in a way they deliver the payload.
https://x.com/moonstoneTwitt/status/2050140138332901709https://www.moon-stone.jp/product2/ms31/special_trial.htmlTrial for the new Moonstone horrorge.
>>50904880
>>50905162literal whore
>>50904564Good
is it fine to read totsuraba as first crystalia game
>>50905339you can read slop in any order. though in this particular case, having played BA beforehand will improve the experience
>>50905342that's the main reason it got my interest
when is the next 50h+ banger boys
>>50905374only fabled sequels in dev hell can save this medium...
So anybody here that bothered with the new Laplacian game? I wouldn't even know it was released if i hadn't wishlishted it on steam.
>>50905378todd howard?
>>50905397we only like aislop if it's made by empress here
Nice.
>>50905397the disgust towards author would made me hate the game even if it was the best masterpiece ever created
>>50905425>no visible pantsusoulless corporate slop
>>50905430
>>50905430Get some eyes...
>>50905466that's skirt folds...
>>50905469From the top skirt, pantsu, skirt.
>>50905476it's the same color of the skirt, she's holding the fabric behind with her legs
>>50905469Eyes....
>>50905499even if they were, it was clearly made to NOT appeal to the male gaze, otherwise there would be no need for a spectral analysis to find out if pantsu are visible or not
>>50905425>>50905435>>50905498shame that company died, they didn't make kamige, but relationships drama ges are very rare nowadays, every title matters
>>50905503>there would be no need for a spectral analysisThere's isn't any need. You're just blind.
>>50905515cope
>>50905522What's there to cope about? There's clearly an upskirt in that CG. You're the one coping about how it's apparently not supposed to appeal to the male gaze just because you're blind.
>>50905530where are the pussy lips? they are covered on purpose. same color and same shading and same fabric as the skirt. they did the minimum to qualify as a "pantsu mieru" shot but it's clear that the intent was for you to NOT look there
Other routes start to seem pointless.MC has a cute autist wife and should focus on her.>>50905507Yeah, I wanted to read a drama game and remembered this. Maybe cause I watched Golden Time recently.
>>50905533Bro this is pretty embarrassing. You don't have to go on this whole autistic cope spiel just because you were confidently wrong about something.
>>50905538>not a single counterargumenti accept your concession
>>50905540Your argument is that she's wearing white panties and a white skirt. What am I supposed to respond with? lmfao
>>50905545no i'm arguing that the intent of that cg was to NOT sexualize the panty shot
>>50905548Then why did they draw it in the first place?
>>50905553so people like me couldn't bitch about the cg NOT having a panty shot, though in practice it's if it didn't
>>50905555Yeah I'm sure that's what the artist was thinking while drawing it. Literal cope.
>>50905342>having played BA beforehandNo crystalia games are abbreviated BA. Am I missing something?
>>50905658yes, as grok what's BA in the context of visual novels
>>50905658Blue Archive gacha.Someone said its similar in the previous thread.
>>50905662>gacha
>>50905666Is it not?
>I'm gonna help you with loveExcept she's clearly the most interesting girl.Jesus, it's such a classic setup. But it'll be the spice for the future drama.
>>50905698I love MORE's wild ride broswhy did they have to die...
>>50905339Yeah, it has no connection to the previous games. The most you miss is knowing the source of the pictures on the screens in this background CG.
>>50905944too cute
This is true.I'm not the biggest expert, of course, but I can agree to this.
>>50905859They reincarnated https://vndb.org/p9981
>>50903764Is Dimension Lovers as kino as Red Cherish?
>>50906063Cute and fat thighs built for attracting onii-chans
>>50906437it's even better
anyone know how i could get this vn to run on win11? https://vndb.org/v18236did the usual stuff, trying every single compatibility mode, running with/without admin, different install locations, locale emulator/ntlea, nothing seems to coax this piece of shit to give me even an indication that it wants to run. i've managed to run older Xuse VNs than this on win11 with little to no problem, but this one refuses to give even an error dialog.i even got the game from 2 different sources, thinking maybe the installer is corrupt or something, but it just refuses to run
>>50906609can't help you but i wonder why it's split from the original considering that some cgs are literally identical
>>50906609Did you do this already?
>>50906659same shit, still refuses to runmight just have to run it in a windows 7 vm to see if it runs or the files i downloaded are somehow corrupted>>50906633there's a discussion thread on the og release on why it's split, still seems pretty dumb considering there's other remakes on vndb like doukyuusei 2 that don't have their own separate page
>>50906437I enjoyed it more than the Diner games.
Do you guys like Manosaba here?
>>50906920We're huge contrarians, so we all have the opposite of your opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNm7ovrZs60Finally kino is coming
>>50907054Is this going to be a super shortge too?
>>50907056He said on his yt before that it's going to be at least 2-3 times bigger
Damn Koyomi route was good, very surprising from the dude with literally 0 writing experience
>>50906920It's alright I guess.
>>50907361I really like it a lot and I'm glad Acacia is making more games.
>>50906920i don't think it's worth reading
>>50904874Damn, I guess it does count as NTR, even if they made sure the other guy is a total dick.
>>50906920I haven't read but I jerk off to the girls
>>50907798Finished the first route. Damn ladder structure. You know how it ends up being. And the story itself was rather standard. You could imagine how it will play out.At least Ruri-chan was really cute.
>>50908588To add a bit, I strategically checked reviews for this route only and people are saying it had very good 背徳感 and that MC NTRs a guy. Well, by word definition the NTR thing is true, but the other guy is such a jerk I really couldn't feel like MC is doing anything wrong. Overall, it was fine, but not special. I guess that's ladder for you.
I'm searching for a somewhat recent doujin VN but didn't have any luck, does some of you have recommanded websites? Tried nyaa, AS and some chink websites like touchgal, dmhy and acgs.one but no luck
>>50908836if it's not on as or kf your chances are slim, very few people bother with doujin games
>>50908836Just ask for it here
>>50908869KF? >>50908876it's this https://vndb.org/v44523 if by chance an im@sfag bought it...
>>50908894>sold at shiny star festivaloof. good luck anon
>>50908894give it some more time, it might leak soon>>50908901it's also sold on booth, but only physicalhttps://shinyreco.booth.pm/items/8140734
https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/feature/2097950.htmlso, did they manage to surpass Clannad?
>>50909483yeah, it's the most overrated keyge now
how do you feel about>分る >判る>解る
>>50909909Same shit all 3fuck your nuisance
>>50909909I prefer ワカる
>>50909909I prefer 分からせ
Just finished Memories Off - Sorekara.
>>50910951What did you think about it?
>>50910953I liked it a lot, its been a while I read a VN that had a locked route system. Inori felt like a deeply flawed heroine with a lot of emotional baggage and autism, my favorite type of heroine. Especially if they have long black hair. I could see this was one of the better Memories Off games, unlike the newer ones that seem to get mixed reviews. It's a shame I can't find any PC release on Sorekara After, I would have wanted to read that too.
>>50910960They didn't release the FD historia on PC for some reason. You could just emulate the switch version though (not all the FDs are worth reading anyway).
>>50910960>I liked it a lot, its been a while I read a VN that had a locked route system.How would you rate the routes? >I could see this was one of the better Memories Off games, unlike the newer ones that seem to get mixed reviews.Have you read any of the previous games or was sorekara your first one?>It's a shame I can't find any PC release on Sorekara After, I would have wanted to read that too.You can just emulate it. I'm a buyfag though, so I bought it off of a jap to collect it and play on my ps2.
>>50910960>>50910996>>50910998https://gofile.io/d/pun8nzhttps://vndb.org/r2600
>>50911001Wow, thanks a lot! I tried really hard finding something, and it was tough. This is a life saver!
>>50911041China had it, though I don't remember where specifically I got it. The Steam releases are trivial to find on Rin, but I also got these old ones.
Niijima-bros?
>>50911066>2024年発売予定lmao. Reminds me of 2023 Minamo if.
>>50911219iirc Minamo at least got "news" when they announced Koganei-sou, saying it+Jashin-chan were no longer in active development but "not canceled" as they could one day resume it
>>50911483Whatever dude sprite is full of shit I'm surprised people still care about what they're doing.
I'll be legitWhen it comes to EOP hate you can't get any more real than me.I fucking hate those faggots. Seeing them talking about the games I play just feels "icky", I can't explain. I just avoid whatever is translated to the best of my efforts.But I also need to be realistic and understand that the money those subhumans have is worth as much as mine.With the industry of games in general in Japan being the sour state that it is, it's very damn hard to keep up with production cost while selling only in Japan.So while the feeling of sharing games with scum is shitty, you kind of have to deal with it if you actually like the medium and need more people to support itIf Japan was an industry that could be self sustained and the Japs weren't so fucking broke and actually bought shit then I probably wouldn't be posting this.Oh, the perfect world.
>>50911842japs are too busy pouring thousands dollars each month into all the chinese gacha slop instead to accelerate its destruction of culture even further
>>50911842>>50912012China won so hard it’s not even a joke
>>50912029it's very ironic how china managed to completely destroy japan's gaming industry and at the same time save the entire eroge culture for themjust try to imagine the amount of lost media there would be if not for all the chinese archive bros
>>50912049Chinese gacha are protecting eroge from normies tooImagine a vn where the protagonist is a ai artist or vibecoder to appeal to normies
>>50909909When I was starting out learning Japanese I hated everything but 分る, but now I find myself preferring 解る.
>>50911842I used to have the same feelings, but it just isn't productive. You don't gain anything by holding on to that much spite.I used to be a horrible EOP once myself who wouldn't even watch an anime unless it was dubbed, and now I'm bilingual. Some percentage of current EOPs will go through the same journey too.The best thing to do is be supportive and help the ones who are interested in learning. Acting like an elitist asshole doesn't accomplish anything (no matter how much that might be how I feel on the inside).
>>50911842Basically this >>50912012I really cant support them when they themselves want to kill their own industry and country.>But I also need to be realistic and understand that the money those subhumans have is worth as much as mine.You realize the entire reason eroge kneels to the west is because steam is the only way for them to access to chinese money right? since gabe somehow managed to convince china to sell them porn and that those patches really aren't part of the game steam is selling to them.
>>50910951>>50910960Why even post that you finished a game if you can't give any meaningful thoughts? You might as well say nothing at all.
>>50912212yet steam has some of the most notorious anime hater reviewers that block eroge left and right for almost decade already and gabe doesnt seem to care about it at all
>>50911842>reddit spacing
>>50909909>>分るmid>>解るkino>>判るdogshit
>>50912289>理解るchuuni kino
I don't get how "Yurusu ga yoi" is translated. I'm reading it literally means "I will forgive you”.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSDRrBsd2M8
>>50912294hfk if true
>>50912269Yeah i know that's why i said you shouldn't consider EOPs as equal spenders to japan and china since they barely matter, and that is why i said kneeling to steam, because that is their only way to get money from china since no other service will allow you to sell porn to the country where porn is banned
>>50912296it can't be translated because english has no equivalent of old archaic japanese lingo so the best you can do is feel it outor go your way to larp something sort of "I have kept thee waiting. Grant me thy pardon." which still wouldn't be even close to the original vibe
>>50912062Eroge and visual novel protects itself from normalfags because zoomers and specially gen-alpha have severe ADHD and this medium filters them with the massive uninterrupted dialogue and narration.
>>50912343How would you explain the Umi/Higu fanbase then?
>>50912369trannies are special
this imouto is a really nice girl.
>>50912321Yeah, but I think the official MLA translation just always translated it as "Please forgive me." Doesn't really seem to capture the exact vibe.
How is the protagonist of WA2? Is he not overly pathetic? Or is he some sort of macho?
>>50912957First 10 minutes is him crying while being comforted by a girl to stop him from cryingTake a guess
>>50912980NOOOOOOOOOOO IT CAN'T BE THAT SHIT IT WILL BE LIFE-CHANGING STOP FUCKING LYING
>>50912957Is there a single VN protagonist outside of nukige who is macho at all?
>>50913027theres ton in chuunige
>>50913067based, i'm so glad there are joppers who are jopping jopkino like kkk right now
>>50913027I always thought the MC from amakano SS looked like chad
>>50912253would you like me to write a whole blog post review? If you want a critique I hated the NBR little sister, found her annoying. The whole point of the character is to seize on Isshu's weakness in the early part of the story rather than genuinely offer him support. The OST was also really good.
>>50912253all thoughts are meaningless
>>50913366we got a philosophy minor here
>>50913366truke
>>50913340>would you like me to write a whole blog post review?You were asked your thoughts on the game and gave a laughably short and boring response, considering it's a game with multiple routes and characters you never mentioned. You don't even need to write a blog post if you're incapable, you could just give your rating of all the routes so we can get an idea of your opinion on the overall game.
>>50913393it was a good responsei bought the game now
>>50913393The strength of the game is finding out the motivation of the characters in the different ends. Why would I spoil that for people? Sure its an old game but its not popular with eop. You can barely find the Takashi Abo soundtrack on the internet.
>>50913762You do realize you can spoiler parts of your post if you're worried about spoiling a game a lot of us have already played? The soundtracks also aren't "barely findable" unless you're retarded.
>>50913817If I wasn't retarded I wouldn't be reading eroge.
>>50913838A retard couldn't learn Japanese for their otaku interests unless you MTL then you are retarded
>>50913990>spoileroof
>>50903550last one from me, wodicon 3https://pixeldrain com/u/yHY359qd
New vn doko?
>>50914570Wrong thread, see >>50912515
afterword with Totsu Lover authorspoiler of course:https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/161/article/1801673
we will be reading
>>50914530is there even anything particularly interesting in it
https://x.com/SCA_DI/status/2051262696398708796yes the 10hrs of pottery infodumps are so entertainingif he really still considers that ending being the best there possibly could be i guess he is a lost case at this point
>>50915225still better than subahibi
>>50915247but i love subahibi
>>50915209you could try playing the top rated game of each, but honestly i don't know. it's just been lost media for who knows how long, i just did some magic to recover them. link for #4 still works but who knows for how longi wish somebody made a website for all the rpgmsloppa storage...
>>50915407>i wish somebody made a website for all the rpgmsloppa storage...absolutely... I'm still pretty mad I couldn't get DarkNecklofar II v3.33thanks a lot for recover these!
>>50915441>DarkNecklofar II v3.33maybe it's hfk, who knows
I like checking out ancient review sites.E.g.https://gameweb.sakura.ne.jp/https://web.archive.org/web/20151031173133/http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/c-night/gameimpression.htm
>>50915591make the internet soul again
>>50915591egono.com is a good way to find a bunch of them
>>50915756Nice. Thanks.
>>50915756I was hoping to finally find info/saves on すきスキお兄ちゃん since it's not on sagaoz, then I actually find the title archived on savedatas.sakura.ne.jp, and then the page doesn't load.I still didn't have sex with her, the game is so hard.
>>50916778have you tried checking script files with garbroi also was stuck with a game before then fed the script into gemini it figured out all the flags and made me a guide that actually worked
Anyone got a download for Pulltop's 夏少女?The only live links that still seem to be around require premium rapidgator.And apparently it's one of Pulltop's only games that never received a digital release to just buy legit.
>>50916922>夏少女https://www.shinnku.com/files/galgame0/2/2003%E5%B9%B45%E6%9C%88/%E4%BC%9A%E7%A4%BE%E5%90%88%E9%9B%86/%5B030530%5D%5BPULLTOP%5D%20%E5%A4%8F%E5%B0%91%E5%A5%B3%20DVD-ROM%E7%89%88%20(iso%2Bmds).rar
Here's something I've noticed about a lot of hack japanese VN writers>mentions the sky constantly>clunky poetry that's supposed to be deep>sigmund freud mentioned at some point
>>50916993>>clunky poetry that's supposed to be deeppost one (1) example of this
>>50916993Sca-ji do be like that
>>50917049i look like that and say things like that
>>50916934Wonderful! Thanks anon.And that site had another oldie I've been hunting for too. I'll definitely keep it bookmarked.
>>50917131Yeah, shinnku is a huge treasure trove for eroge! I've found plenty on there that aren't on AnimeBytes, I really hope it never gets taken down.
>>50917049Is sakuuta as bad as subahibi? I'm still recovering from reading it
>>50917253What didn't you like about Subahibi?
>>50917285It felt like every character was just Sca-ji's self insert and the whole thing is just him masturbating about what he learned from some philosophy books.
>>50917311that was the good part though
>>50917311Then you probably won't like Sakuuta either, there is only one character who isn't like that.
>>50917335thomas?
>>50917335My main issue narratively was probably the lack of stakes because you don't what character is real or what the fuck is happening.
>>50917371that's not an issue in sakuuta, though there is way too much foreshadowing in early chapters that only going to make sense way later
Great, another route ruined by pointless melodrama.When will VN authors realize that I'm reading moege because I DON"T want to deal with dark, depressing stuff like this!?
>>50917491This happened to me once.
>>50916993
>>50917491Jesus christ how horrifying
More than 10 years later, and more than 15 years later and the main criticism for SakuUta and SubaHibi is that all the characters are the author's mouthpieces. I remember the same arguments 10 years ago when SakuUta came out. Admittedly, it's true. At the same time, it quickly let's you decide whether you like this or not. If it's fair to dislike the games for it, it's also fair to like them. I can also accept this >>50917371 as fair. But at the same time, if you meet the game halfway through and accept that everything is "real", at the moment, for the POV character, it's okay.As for the plot, I actually think SubaHibi has a pretty well thought out, well constructed plot. Especially as you uncover the back story and what really happened to each character. If anything, it's SakuUta that has a rather strained plot meant to fully serve its themes and the messages the author wants to impart. I played both in 2015 though and haven't played SakuToki yet. I need to replay/play them one of these days.
>>50917908The game where 80% of it is schizo delusions is well-thought out and constructed and the game where it's mostly characters painting and talking about art with some yakuza incest child rapehouse stuff in the backstory that's only really relevant for one route is strained?
>>50917910Yes.
>>50917908>reddit spacing
Appreciate the cuteness of childhood friends.
>>50918154No, I hate shithood friends.
Anyone got ideas on fixing this text spacing issue in Win11?Looks fine in VM (besides that terrible dithering). I've been tinkering with compatibility modes with no success.
>>50918154Reading ゴールデンアワー for ゴールデンウイーク？
>>50918357Yeah. Childhood friend route was really good, btw.Unexpectedly so for a side route in a ladder game.
>>50918333run it on a VM and read it there
>>50918333albinina.sakura.ne.jp fixmetrics
>>50918495Perfect! Thank you anon!
Cute kouhai.
>>50917908sakutoki kills everything good about sakuuta so think twice before doing it
Tomorrow.
>>50918154I only ever liked Chiho from PE cause she supports the protagonist if he falls in love with someone else
I want to just stick to one game at a time and finish it before moving to a new one, but I'm always starting additional games. It's like there're so many VNs to choose from that I'm constantly distracted by all of the ones I want to play.
>>50919499just don't do that? hello?
>>50919499so long you are reading you are winningeach time when you force yourself to read something and don't feel like that so you end up procrastinating instead you are losing
>>50919526>i wish i consoomed more media... *dies*
Finally done with anemoii didnt read summer pockets, but comparing to the old key it was opposite experience: boring as hell sol parts and actually pretty good endings of the routesthey tried to recreate meada humor but failed miserably, it was just the same sort of jokes all over again and again, there were many choices to have fun with but all of them were tastelesschiharu, koyomi and awayuki routes were pretty good and actually managed to make me cry, the rest were rather mediocrei didn't really enjoy the true route which is basically continuation of spica route, even though i love these kind of stories lasting through entire lifetimethe main story line was just way too weak and boring, i didn't like spica much either and mc became annoying asf so getting through all of it felt way too much of a slog and i didn't really feel much emotions from the endingit didn't help that the rest of the main characters completely disappeared from it which was beyond dumb and all the side characters were just background bots for mc without having any signs of their personal lives of troublesoverall there were some good parts i liked but getting to them was way too boring, i wouldn't be able to handle it if i didn't speedread the hell of all the sol partsthis game could have some potential if only there was maeda to write some actually fun humor
>>50919693life status: not changed
Anyone played this high quality looking all-age JKs slop? I'm interested in the BGM composer, Hamu is a fucking genius in doujin music scene and wondering how he would do here. https://vndb.org/v47056
>>50918734more like sakutoki takes anything good about sakuuta and makes it better
>>50919942I read a bit of it and was bored out of my mind. It looks high quality at first glance but it's only really the CGs and sprites and maybe the BGM, I didn't really pay attention to it. Everything else feels extremely low quality (especially the VA/sprites for the Fukuoka vtuber shills). And speaking of Fukuoka, I'm pretty sure the game was funded by them or something, it shills the city too much for it not to be.
>>50919693Imouto route was mid?
>>50919499I've found a good middle ground to be bouncing back and forth between routes. I'll read a route of VN #1, then a route of VN #2, then another route of VN #1, etc. etc.You get the nice closure from finishing a story, but you also get the variety that beelining a single VN doesn't usually provide. And when I come back to a VN after taking a little break, it often feels really fresh and almost new again.
>>50920271Imouto i was honestly pissed off the most because i really loved her obsessed brocon personality but got scammed really badHere is major spoiler: his real imouto died when he was young and then some dark energy took the shape of his imouto and traveled with him so he wouldn't be alone. they didn't even go as far as making it her soul or something, just straight up different being. whoever said in the interview that imouto is definitely br fuck you bitch because she wasn't even real let alone brand even if you ignore that part, the route was focused on the main storyline which was mediocre in the first place, and barely made much senseif you just look at the ending of the route alone it still managed to get me emotional despite all that, but then it makes things even worse overall because while he cared about her so damn much in her route, she completely disappears at the start of every other route and mc just doesn't give a single fuck about that
>>50920452Not hovering the spoiler, but damn.Imoutos are cute and deserve the best routes and story treatment in all games, of course.
>>50920478I still can't believe that she didn't even manage to make to the true route at least in some kind of shapeit all was so much about family love and all that while almost completely ignoring his supposedly the most precious family member if you judge it by her routei swear multiple writers syndrome is a true cancer of key
>>50919693Does it mean I can just read common + Spica + true while skipping everything else?
>>50920785True requires all 5 routes completed
>>50920867>1 vote
>>50920874Fine.But yeah, there are many 1 vote accounts praising it. But it does feel plausible people would make an account just for that.
>>50920918Agreed.
what's up with this influx of literally who """opinions""" here lately?
>>50921082/vn/ cancer is metastasizing
Is official route order in totsuraba actually good?i saw this one review saying katan route sucks so better not start with it
>>50921732Katan’s route has a ton of lore dumps, so you should play it first if you want to understand the other routes better.
>>50921732Katan's route is great, it's my favorite in the game. I'm surprised that they recommended it as the very first but it really doesn't matter that much. It does lead well into the grand route though.
>>50921732You can read the first three heroine's routes essentially in any order. There will be a reference to a character at the very end of Sophie's route that you won't get if you haven't done Katan's route yet, but it largely doesn't matter. Just, whatever you do, save Sakura's route until last.Also, I don't know what review you read, Katan's route is great.
>>50921769https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=39837&uid=windows86i didn't read too much into it to not get spoilers so maybe he just talking from the perspective of sucks to start with, though given his score doesn't seem like he liked italso just realized that account had 1 vote again so yeah...
>>50921785Damn, a 90 overall. Yeah, I wouldn't put much stock in a one-vote account.
Cuuuute.
>>50921732i agree that katan is a better lead up into true than yoruno, i'd leave katan for last too
Katan route is more important for the lore than the other heroines lol
Does the protagonist stay bitchless in true route of dimension totsu lovers?
>>50921869Yes, and he’s still a beta sissyfaggot MC.
Fin.Review tomorrow.
kek
So is this what they call reiwa speech...
Yeah i see now why everyone says it's similar to ba, the music has exactly the same melodic sync vibe which is pretty rare for erogesno wonder though since they got neko hacker as a composer, i wonder what they had to do to convince them to compose for eroge for the first time
>>50923334guess I'll check out BA's soundtrack. still not reading it though
>>50922662I'm afraid about the future of Japanese youth
>>50923337It's a very deep hole because of how unique the style is, i'm just going to drop some of my favorites: ost 245, 207, 167, 131, 299, 308, 305, 327, 313
>>50923376what youth
>>50922662cringe speech
>>50922662cute speech
What are some other heroines blatantly autistic in the same way as Air's Misuzu? Aside from Key stuff.
>>50922662I'm glad to see teenage Japanese girls in 2087 talk like I did 13 years ago
Steins gate reboot https://youtu.be/8gYV7G6i8xw?si=XgeU7l7qMDplcDhI
>>50924394god it looks worse than ai nowliterally whats the point spending money making remasters of remasters that no one gonna play just make a damn new game
>>50924509you will never be an enterpreneur
Yuki = cute.And Golden Hour was really good. Though at the same time, there was a lot that could have been better.It really is a Yuki game, with her route, the main true route, being much better than the rest. I would keep it for last, cause yeah, her route really is the game and it's done afterwards. That said, the other side routes weren't bad. If nothing else, if you like the girl in question, they're enjoyable as charage or nukige routes. I enjoyed one of the side routes, one was interesting in its relation to the main story and two were kinda meh for me.Mostly I felt like I want to continue the main story for Yuki route. And the game let's you know you are missing something important.As is, the game is relatively short and you can tell they really did all they could to justify selling it at full price.The art was good, especially in H scenes. Wish there was anal sex, since there already were many butt-focused CGs for the girls.I wish there were more variations for CGs and backgrounds, sprites and voices for side characters etc.The titular golden hour was described beautifully, but could have been shown more.That said, I liked how the character sprites changed expressions while talking. A simple effect,. but for some reason I thought it was done particularly well in this game. Maybe the timing was good. What I'm saying is, the script guy(s) did good.MC was a bit too hetare. Yeah, him getting out of that is what the story is about, but I wish he was a bit more proactive, a bit faster.Routes:Ruri - I already posted above, but it didn't work for me. The other guy was too obviously a jerk. It would have been a stronger route if he was nice and the NTR and cheating felt real. As is, I really couldn't think the characters are doing anything wrong.Suzu - fine, but the least interesting route.Marika - cliche, but good. What can I say, it got to me. Even if most of the route was based on an idiotic misunderstanding.Natsumi - fine as a standalone route, but weird in relation to Yuki's route. It felt like a bad end of sorts. You can say the previous routes are the MC stepping outside of the main story, leaving it, but here you're at the final choice, Natsumi or Yuki, and Natsumi is like, you're close, but missed. If anything Yuki's route felt like the more substantial story for Natsumi too.The game is rather self-spoilery, even before starting Natsumi's route you can a good enough idea about what's up, but then in Natsumi's route another "ghost" is shown? It felt like too much.Final thoughts next post.
>>50924577>since there already were many butt-focused CGs for the girls.backlogged.
>>50924577>MC was a bit too hetareez skip
>>50924577Yuki = cute 2.In Golden Hour.Many reviews already say this, but the supernatural elements at the end, and the ending itself felt sudden, under-explored and under-baked.I presume the author was aiming for a one-two punch of sorts, being like "look what Yuki did for you" and then "look what you do for her", but he didn't stick the landing. What I really enjoyed and what got to me, was MC finding his way to Yuki and then remembering how he did it the first time. Simple story, a girl likes a guy, but he likes her sister, but it was done really well. And this was basically Yuki's whole route, except the ending, so all'n'all I am happy with it.I suppose my ideal version of the story would focus on just that, the love triangle with MC, Natsumi and Yuki, and how it could play out. Maybe add Marika too, as another option.And it would work without the supernatural elements too. Or maybe keep the forgetting, but using a different mechanism without deaths or disappearances.Yeah, basically I wish the game was more like WA2.Lastly, I played the Anthology rerelease. Supposedly>「MORE＆NIKO 青春アンソロジー」収録の「ゴールデンアワー」ではCS移植で使う予定だった追加CG7枚が収録されてるらしいです。and it seems to be true. There was at least once CG in the gallery I didn't see in an online rip.You might as well get this version, it's easy to find on Shinnku.
>>50922662This will be the future of modern moege heroines
I figure I should probably ask this here, actually. I've seen Mareni's writing compared to Izumi Kyoka's, is that accurate?
Anyone got the 2DGF version of ソレヨリノ前奏詩?It should be MDS + split MDF files like in the pic.I got the AS version (MDS+ISO) and the installer crack for it no longer works on Win 11.And a different 2DGF crack seems to need their specific game upload.
>>50925123what about https://www.shinnku.com/files/galgame0/5/2015%E5%B9%B42%E6%9C%88/%5B150227%5D%5Bminori%5D%20%E3%82%BD%E3%83%AC%E3%83%A8%E3%83%AA%E3%83%8E%E5%89%8D%E5%A5%8F%E8%A9%A9%20(iso%2Bmds).rar
>>50925245Unfortunately that's the AS version packed with the 2DGF crack that doesn't work for it.Tomorrow I'll try a Win 10 VM.
>>50925123why are you from squid game"crack for ソレヨリノ前奏詩 V3" doesn't work with that?
>>50925276the version from ab looks like your screen https://pixeldrain.net/u/DNNbm9pd
>>50925365That's the AS crack, works in Win 10, not Win 11.>>50925405Thanks, buddy. Next I probably need some version of Deamon Tools that can mount these split MDS files. Thanks, I'll play around with it after work.
>>50904176>>50904179PROOF?
>>50926248https://note.com/inaniwan/n/n6d1d17a65732
I played some of the Dimension Totsu Lovers demo. Does portrait use and voiced lines get more consistent for MC?I found them a pleasant surprise, but then I was kinda thrown off that they seemed to only appear occasionally instead of being consistent.
>>50926321Yes. Still partial voiced, but he gets quite a lot of lines.
>>50926262>thought stalker 2 was goodnevermind good riddance
>>50926404die
>>50926321It works on Crystalia rules, only important scenes are voiced. More than in their other games, but you can basically automatically tell a scene will be important and you're about to have either cool action or a big plot reveal if MC gets voiced.
Any vn where the protagonist stays alone in true route?
>>50924394not sure how i feel about the s;g reboot. the art is technically improved, but i feel like it doesnt capture the soul of the original. in one image, they made kurisu’s chest larger and they made her jacket bigger for some reason. while the jacket difference can seem negligible, it just doesnt feel right and just gives a completely different feeling as opposed to her previously thin jacket. i’ll still probably buy it though to add to my collection
>>50927159kys dumb goysumer
>>50927165>goyYikes.Just say you’re broke.
>>50927156Anon's life
>>50927172>reasoning in terms of money instead of your time left on this gay earthyou have to be 30+ to post here
>>50927175>”waah stop spending money on your hobby”What exactly is your argument?
>>50927172>not a single good game
>>50927181you will understand it in 10 years, hopefully
>>50927185I probably won’t ever understand what you mean and I don’t plan on it. You sound like a depressed little bitch so I don’t ever want to think this “earth is gay”.
>>50927186>You sound like a depressed little bitchi'm not the one who's gonna read s;g demake instead of literally anything else tho
>>50927186>this “earth is gay”.he's right about that one
>>50927181There's not enough time on this planet to waste it reading bad remakes.You have no excuse to ever read a VN that's less than 9/10. There's enough 9/10 vns you could read them all day every day for the rest of your life.
>>50927194>There's enough 9/10 vns you could read them all day every day for the rest of your life.You must have really low standards.
>>50927194truke, and considering that other mediums exist, things are even worsethough because of the rounding, 8.5+ vinnies are safe to read too
Poisonous arguments aside, I generally agree with the "collect less physical stuff" side.But supporting creators is great. I just prefer maybe getting a DL version and ideally making a backup for youself.
>>50927208There's a bit of a difference between 'support the creators' and 'this is a bad cashgrab that looks terrible but I'm going to buy it anyways just for the sake of owning it'.
>>50927194What are these 9/10 vns you speak of?
>>50927214Monmusu Quest! Paradox RPG ShuushouRance X -Kessen-OoeShigatsu YoukaWHITE ALBUM2Tobira no Densetsu ~Kaze no Tsubasa~Soukou Akki MuramasaUmineko no Naku Koro ni ChiruMuv-Luv AlternativeSTEINS;GATEShingakkou -Noli me tangere-Sakura no Toki -Sakura no Mori no Shita o Ayumu-Utawarerumono: Futari no HakuoroFata Morgana no YakataSakura no Uta -Sakura no Mori no Ue o Mau-Umineko no Naku Koro niSubarashiki Hibi ~Furenzoku Sonzai~Taishou Mebiusline Teito BibourokuSakura, Moyu. -as the Night's, Reincarnation-Tokyo Satsujinki Gakkou no KaidanHigurashi no Naku Koro ni KaiTsukihime -A piece of blue glass moon-Jack JeanneSaihate no ImaLuckydog1+bad eggBLACK SHEEP TOWNCLANNADSekai Metsubou Kyouyuu Gensou MAMIYA - DoomsDay DreamsHentai Prison
>>50927227>only two good vns
>>50927241now read your third vn from the list
>>50927227>only 8 good games
>>50927242I dont want to mtlslop saihate no ima, I believe it to be special enough to learn jp for it
>>50927249>I believe it to be special its notits just pornshit
>>50927250Are all vns pornshit to you?
>>50927249you can always re-read it once you know jp
>>50927252nokamige:https://vndb.org/v25769https://vndb.org/v29838https://vndb.org/v12728
>>50927257lol, even lmao.
>>50927263better than saihate no unavoidable ntr
>>50927265>le ntr boogeymanyou have to be 18+ to larp here
>>50927268who are you quoting? cuckshit means bad writing because the hack doesnt know how to write emotional dramathats why all-ages games are better
>>50927270>cuckshit means bad writingno it doesn't lol>thats why all-ages games are betteroh i see...
I was procrastinating at work and you two Discord idiots yapping is so insufferable it made me finish one annoying shit I had to do.
>>50927272very based, we are waiting for you to save this thread with some high quality posts
>>50927277It will take some time to finish a new game.
>>50927279we will be awaiting your next blogpostation with anticipation
>>50927271>no it doesn't can you name one good vn with ntr?
>>50927296muramasa
>>50927296Muramasa
>>50927299>>50927300i said good vn...
>>50927303muramasa is a good vn on this planet
>>50927305planet ntr
>>50927567>67 IDBLT
>>50927594KEK
New ChocoChip http://www.a-kaguya.com/products_bb/26_mamatomo/new_teaser_2026_,mamatomo.html
ソレヨリノ前奏詩Thanks again for this version >>50925405I installed Daemon Tools version 5, mounted it fine, but the 2DGF crack (yorino_setup.exe) still didn't work.It's just cursed for me. Over the years I tried it on three different PCs (Win 7, Win 10, Win 11) and it never worked. So I made a Win 10 VM with VirtualBox and the AS crack (crack for ソレヨリノ前奏詩 V3) worked again.The game runs, but the sound kinda crackles and there are graphical glitches. I guess it's cause the VM uses some shitty emulated GPU.Then I remembered I got Windows 11 Pro and can just use Hyper V. That should be better.
>>50927159How is the art "technically" improved exactly?
>>50927723>more animations/colors/effects/resolution/fps/... LE GOODthe zoomer brain do be like that
what am i in for? gonna binge this on a whim, my first maedakino...
>>50927616about time
it works out of the box on troonix but there's no bgm, not sure if intended or not
ソレヨリノ前奏詩The solution is getting a Win 11 Pro key on Yahoo Auctions. (Already did this months ago, for no real good reason back then.)Then fiddling with million Hyper V settings, both inside and outside the VM. It has some bandwith-saving shitty defaults that result in bad image quality.But the nice thing is that this RDP window itself can be an easy Magpie target.
>>50927963odd to see you struggling this much. On kami OS LTSC I just insstalled the 7 GB file with yorino_setup.exe without complaints, it was the same with natsuperseus though I think that one was crackless
>>50928057>yorino_setup.exeI dunno what's up with that bro.It just never ever worked for me.And I even got genuine Japanese Windows. Tried both normally and with (pointless) Locale Emulator on top too.
>>50928268>why is water wettruly a mystery
ソレヨリノ前奏詩yorino_setup.exeOne last post.Okay fuck me thrice, I figured the issue. You need their fucking stupid readme PNG file in the same folder. Well, at least I learned to use Hyper V.
>>50928317did you need the actual picture file or just a file named 2djgame.png did the trick?
>>50928350Empty file with same name and extension starts the installer too.
>>50927156CROSS†CHANNEL
>>50928362>doesn't even check md5fucking amateurs
https://www.asa-pro.com/ousama/
>>50928560>今作はヒロインに振り回されるのではなく、>こちらが振り回す側。振り回せるだけのスペックがある。>1対1ではなく同時に【2人×4】ルート。>好感度が高いヒロインと低いヒロインがセットになっているので、>イチャラブとイヤイヤのサウナで整います。>エロ重視な構成で、Hシーンも物語序盤から入ってきます。Niggas are cooking.
>>50928567>自分を王様だと思っている主人公 it's been a while since i saw this trope
>>50927227hey I've read a part of rance xplan to read WA2started reading utawarerumonofinished higurashiprobably should get to clannad at some point. Would you believe that I've bought it but not read it?this does look like a pretty good list, lots of popular ones in here. And I've downloaded more than a few of the titles without reading them, from muv luv to soukou, to the subarashiki series
>>50927227I love MLA but I would NOT say it's a 9/10. It's very a love it or hate it thing.
>>50928901what is even there to hate
>>50928954the garbage protagonist and everything about sumika
>>50928958but takeru is one of the better protagonists out therei can barely count better ones on two hands
>>50928960it's a moeshitter seething about ntr, ignore him
>>50928960not a fan of whiny faggots. forgot to mention the shit ending too
>>50928962>seething about ntri don't care. takeru and sumika would be shit characters even without that scene.
I now understand wagies only read moeshit
>>50929027idblt
>>50929027I read what I find enjoyable and moeshit is the only thing I enjoy. I don't want to read overwritten c-grade action and I don't want to read someone's rejected philosophy thesis. I want fun situations with attractive characters.
>>50927227played exactly two vn on here
>>50929301what about drama or mystery or sci-fi
>>50929312I have yet to read an enjoyable mystery VN and actual hard sci-fi is nonexistent for this genre.
>>50929320you should try shigatsu youka
Tsukihime red garden doko?
>>50929386in the same place where fgo eos
>>50929335hehe, the joke is that it's both
>>50929390Didn't FGO end its main story a few months ago? Aren't they just wrapping it up and it'll go maintenance mode soon?
>>50929874No lol
are there any games where the protagonist is a complete social inept and even fails to go down any heroine route(s)?
>>50929975https://vndb.org/v25288
>>50929975original chaos;head before noah
>>50929975Aiyoku no eustia
https://www.christcenteredgamer.com/reviews/pc-mac/kanon-pc>I found out after I read the novel fully that some routes were written by different authors, and this made a lot of sense in retrospect. >I enjoyed all of them for the most part, but some were a step above the rest, and one in particular is just much worse than the others.>Nayuki, Shiori, and Ayu's routes are all excellentEGS>【シナリオ】>久弥直樹 ： 月宮あゆ / 水瀬名雪 / 美坂栞>麻枝准 ： 沢渡真琴 / 川澄舞 / 倉田佐祐理Um, Maeda-bros?
>>50930474>literally who has an opinionsi sleep
>>50929975play any romance game and just fail all heroine's dialogue check
>>50930474maeda's made up dramas have always been garbage, he is only ever good at writing sol and music
>>50930474Just watched this the other day https://youtube.com/watch?v=NmdzBWe_z_IPretty good Maeda lore video. Suprised that there is no mention of LiSA though considering she was a big part of his life and career.>>50931020His stories are not for everyone but I still think Air is a masterpiece. I like most of his stuff though.
Bros, is Lessons in Love actually that good? Why does everyone like it so much? I tried playing it and it was kinda ass. But there must be something to it if Moogy and co. like it so much.
>>50932074I don't see how that game has anything to do with Japanese visual novels.
>>50932082It's an honorary JVN
>>50932074>all reviews with the high number of points vote is 2-3/10 while all the high votes are on the bottom
>>50932074I'm hearing a lot of good things about it so I'll probably check it out after my current ge>14GBJesus
>>50932614queef has been shilling it non-stop last week for some reason
China made the girls largerhttps://vndb.org/r142124https://store.steampowered.com/app/3780110/_/
Why are quof , moogy and other cartel member shilling LiL so hard?
>>50933696it's been at least 5 years since last time i heard word cartelno way they are still alive
>>50933705The cartel never died they just hid themselves from society in seclusion.
>>50933696This is one of the questions that sort of betrays the answer, because the answer is you shouldn't know or care about what they're doing and if you even pay the slightest attention to it you've already lost.
>>50933696>>50933705>>50933729>>50933821As far as I know, those niggas couldn't handle yuri content in healthy ways and went trans or adjacent. So I would presume the game vibes with that.
>>50933696they had sex with the dev, it's goobergate 2.0
>>50933696same reason they've ever shilled anything. they like it.
>>50933696They got paid money to shill it obviously. I don't think any of those trannies can make ends meet to give their honest opinions anymore.
>>50934114woah bro, cool it down with the troonsphobia please, a lot of fellas here might take it the wrong way
>>50934114did moogy do anything besides rating it to make you think he's a paid shill or are you just schizophrenic
So, will it teach me about love?
>>50932074>I tried playing it and it was kinda ass. But there must be something to it if Moogy and co. like it so much.It does get better over time, but not as a "it gets good in 100 hours meme," more like the reason people gush is scenes and climaxes 100-200 hours in not the early stuff. It starts at 7/10 and works itself up to 10/10. Few people finish Chapter 1 and then go around singings its praises from high heavens. It starts off just normal good. Ideally one likes it alright even then, but if not you shouldn't feel too bad dropping it, nobody will like everything. It's not like since a few people like a game everyone else should feel compelled to try and confused if they don't like it. Different strokes for different folks. Not everyone likes Umineko, Muramasa, whatever either.
>>50934243wrong thread, wegfella>>>/aco/
>>50934245see >>50932115
Why did they used Koikatsu models. Literally the worst looking 3D eroge holy shit.
>>50934253>see [my cope]it's wegsloppa
>>50927616They finally make this huhBut only after her art gets worseSad
あらやだ > あらあら
>>50934638あらまあ >>>>>>>>>>>
Anemoi release brough Key to the front of my mind. And I decided to season-match and play Air, since it's summer. I'm really happy the voice-patched SE version exists, cause the voice acting is really good. And the patch is well made, you can even replay voices (the green arrow).
>>50934655You can also tell what lines were cut in the all-ages releases, like these about Misuzu drinking.I guess it's understandable, cause even if she's probably in high school, she's written like a 10 year old (that's competent at housework).Anyway, too early to say more, just started.
>>50932773hahahaha
>>50934659>>50934655how difficult it is? i heard that it becomes hard in the second half or something. please report back after finishing it
>>50935056Well, so far pretty easy at the start.We'll see later then.
>>50933696lol
>>50934255Koikatsu looks pretty decent with mods. You can create chaaracters that look really close to their 2d versions or replicate the 3d models of other games well enough. The problem is the creators of these games only use the base models or they don't have much knowledge about modding and tweaking character models.Look at these for examplehttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/143698634https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/144595078https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/143981968
>>50927748animated h-scenes were good
wtf is a "dummy cut"?
>>50935423my guess is that it removes dummy, unnecessary files so it takes up less space
>>50935298No reason to put that much work into a patreon scam. The retards fall for it anyway
>>50935423Zoomerbro....
>>50935544To be fair, I haven't heard that in so many years that I couldn't remember what it meant either.
>人妻×人妻2 ～もっと！人妻ぱらだいす～HOLY SOULFUL KAMIGE The cancellation of 人妻×人妻5 still hurts...http://blog.getchu.com/archives/51425810.html
>>50935714That screenshot looks comfy as fuck.And it makes me wonder, what are some VNs that put particular emphasis on comfy apartment life to fulfill my weeb dreams?アイカギ seems like one that fits the bill.
>>50934243See, I can accept if a game isn't for me, the problem is I can't see how *anyone can like it*. It feels like a practical joke when people praise this game. I played the game for 10+ hours to see the appeal and the game comes off as patreon shovelware trash. All the characters have this (pardon my french) 'reddit' snarky tone to their dialogue that pisses me off. And then you have these awful scenes where characters break the fourth wall just to complain that the creator's not getting paid enough. Like, what the fuck? Is this a joke? Why is this shovelware being shilled so hard? I have to assume that the creator paid Moogy and Quof to shill it. (I'll stop posting about this game now. This was just a rant.)
>>50936377meta jokes about a game's creation woes are hardly new. subahibi does it
>>50936377>all caps to make things le funny epix xDI think it's been confirmed that this shit has paid reviews as well. If someone is gotta sell me on this, spoil everything at least. Not interested in wasting my time with Koikatsu dogshit that kills my boner.
>>50936384>shit vn does it
>>50936377>'reddit' snarky tone to their dialogue that pisses me offpicked up
>>50936384It's less offensive in something like Subahibi since at least Subahibi came out as a full game. Meanwhile Lessons in Love is just one massive grift.
>>50936389doesn't matter if it's shit or not, the point is that it's in multiple games moogy rated highly. bizarre to assume he's a paid shill (where did he even shill it?) when he's being consistent
>moogyTrannyshit confirmed
This thread is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels read untranslated in Japanese.
>>50936377It's pretty telling that none of the people praising evn trash are reading Toshiraba or Anemoi, easily two of the best VNs of recent years both releasing on the same day.
>>50936420Putting totsuraba and anemoi on the same level is insult towards totsuraba
>>50936420>crystaliagarbage, easy skip>keytheir last good vn was little busters
>>50936426It barely has much in common with other crystalia games and has entirely new writerI've yet to see a single person who wouldn't absolutely love this game after playing
>>50927963I like this game a lot. But yeah it's a pain in the ass to run as a gaijin.
>>50936422You wouldn't say this if you'd read Koyomi route it is so kami
>>50936442Her route alone can't carry entire game my bro especially not that entire mess that is true route
>>50936442As a slut for beautiful backgrounds, I'll definitely need to play sometime for that reason. Really loved the ones I've seen.
>>50936453Pretty much all of the cgs are also extremely high quality that i couldn't stop myself from screenshoting every single oneWhich makes it even more shame the story ended up being so underwhelming
>>50936377I, eceleb Quof, made a reddit account literally 15 years ago on March 13th 2011, and have been posting on reddit daily to weekly for the 15 years hence. Should you not perhaps have a little more understanding for how, perhaps, a practically lifelong redditor likes a game with "reddit snarky dialogue"? It seems like a total and obvious failure of mental flexibility to extend your own tastes to the entire world, as if dialogue that pisses you off will piss off everyone else. Why is it that every should know and understand art is subjective, yet when it comes down to brass tacks acts as if their own taste is an objective barometer for universal quality, to the point anyone who disagrees with them are literal paid shills whom they have no chance of ever understanding or taking seriously? (I seriously can't believe the paid shill angle keeps coming up, as if an obscure EVN is handing out hundreds of dollars to a secret trans-lesbian discord army to pretend to like it for literal years instead of people who regularly play obscure games playing and liking an obscure game.) Anyway, that aside, I specifically say in my VNDB review that >The only thing I have to warn about is that the author has a sharp sense of cynicism which pervades the narration, resulting in the protagonist constantly criticizing almost everything he observes /or/ does himself. There's irony everywhere [...] so I hope you like it.I imagine the reddit snark you refer to is the cynicism/irony I'm referring to here (though the beauty of different human experiences is I have no idea what your qualia was). It is something I was not a huge fan of myself but it didn't kill the game for me. Something else I make quite clear is that I was not a huge fan of Chapter 1. I liked it, but to a more lukewarm degree that might have engendered some middling praise. My opinion is that the game gets better and better (of course, people will use this as an opportunity to mock it as "it gets good in 100 hours," but that's just a cross one has to bear). What makes the game so good in my opinion is the increasingly complex web of interpersonal relationships and context that gets build up without ever getting dropped (in addition to the visual style which I do like for feeling like a CG a minute). The protagonist also gets more sentimental and "deep" for lack of a better word. Here, I'll be pretentious: I like how much the protagonist expresses himself through literature and poetry of others to hide his own lack of personality, and I really enjoy how in the current chapter of the game (Chapter 4) his dialogue and narration often is just Shakespeare allusions or William Blake citations or whatever. Pic related; it's a passage I cobbled together to show some writing I like later in the game - it reminds me of the way I may be inclined to do the same. Mileage will vary on that, some will find it pretentious, some will find it cringe, but I like it. The things I like are not things everyone will like. That should just be obvious. And it's a side of the protagonist's character that won't be clear at all until over a hundred hours. It's a big game and I like it for a lot of complex reasons which are not all apparent from within the first 10 hours played. If you don't like what you've played and dropped it, fair enough, but it's not as if the rest of the game plays out like the first ten hours on loop with no changes and everyone who likes it does so for a one-off patreon rant that he lampshades people not liking in that very same scene. Not everyone is going to like LiL, obviously, people don't like Clannad, people don't like Muramasa, people don't like Umineko, name a kamige and people dislike it. Also, name a kusoge and people like it. That's just how the cookie crumbles. It should really not be mysterious. You may have felt crazy playing LiL and not liking, but I feel crazy for how fucking skeptical people are. It's just a fucking random EVN that I like and then other people played and liked too. It's not a grand shill conspiracy, and it's obvious not everyone will like it. I feel like I'm recommending Moby Dick to someone and they get bored before the characters get on the ship and are like "ugh I genuinely can't understand how anyone got past the homoshit with Ishmael and Queequeg. Is everyone who likes this a paid shill?" Why is this such big drama? Or in harsher terms, why are people such big babies that can't just experience media without trying to form an objective canon in their mind where people either agree with them or are wrong to like things? Geez Louise. I would rather people like things and potentially over-state their quality than I would everyone expressing only the most muted of opinions for fear of random 4channers not sharing their opinion then giving holier-than-thou rants about failing to understand different opinion and reducing a work to shovelware because they don't like the tone of dialogue. (I won't post about LiL here again).
>>50936492I wonder why people wouldn't like bringing up evns in the unstranslated visual novels thread this is definitely some unsolvable mystery
>>50936492waow
>>50936506I didn't, for the record, and never have talked about here outside that one post; that's shitposters doing it on their own. And you are free to dislike those shitposters for posting offtopic. That said, it's kind of falling for an obvious false flag operation to get mad at the object exploited for a shitposting campaign. Like people who largely don't like LiL or get a kick out of shitposting abut it posting it where they know people will get mad about it. You should dislike them, not the game. But in any case I made a single exception to post about it a single time because I am so completely nonplussed at a guy saying he can't believe I (specifically me by name) likes a game with reddit dialogue with seemingly no awareness I've posted on reddit for 15 years, as if he is just saying words with no thoughts going on between the eyes. This skepticism and inability to square subjectivity in media is genuinely making me lose my mind.
>>50936492Why do you even come to this thread when you don't read or care about japanese VNs and haven't in years, maybe if you read Totsuraba or Anemoi you would see that in fact japanese VNs are much better
>>50936522it's eceleb we talking about they can't live a day without searching mentions of their name on internet
>>50936522I'm not a fucking child that gets their kicks out of drawing lines in the sand and engaging in tribalistic warfare online to feel superior to an imagined "other." This imagined EVN vs JPN war means nothing to me and is a game played by the intellectually stunted with nothing better to do in their lives. I'm playing Amakano 3 as we speak. I don't play many VNs at the moment, EVN or JPN, merely because my attention is taken by other forms of media, but it's nothing dramatic or serious to me. I just bagged a Lunatic Touhou 1cc, does that make me /jp/ enough? And regardless I'm here at the moment because the shitposting here is so loud threads I was looking at started talking about it.
>amakanothat game is so shit, just play yuzuge or tone works if you want moe shit
>>50936534Funny how your LiL fans are all people who "don't play many VNs", while anyone who actually keeps up with good VN releases like Hadler think the game is mid and overrated. What a coincidence.
>>50936545the most recent vote on lil is a 9.5 from an account with over 300 votes. sounds like you're coping
>>50936555that account? me
>>50936492Reddit dialogue is a tone thing: (think Narwhal bacons at midnight)
>>50936539>tone worksamakano is better.
when i see tone works mentioned i'm just waiting for that absolute tone works hater to drop his nuke with that screenshot of that mom choosing her career
Totsuraba was really good. I recommend reading it. Some of the script isn't even about Dance Notes!
>>50936641>Dance NotesWhat's that and what does it do?
>>50936643It lets you draw two cards.
>>50936643it pushes whatever object you touch by 5 meters
>>50936652What would happen if the two dance notes fists punched each other.
>>50936658it would be extremely painful
>>50936545what did hadler have to say about totsuraba?
>>50936420>>50936422I genuinely don't understand the praise for Totsuraba. It wasn't a bad game but it definitely read like your run of the mill light novel/manga sloppa. Am I the crazy one living in the twilight zone? The fact this is similar rated to muramasa on EGS and higher than 9-nine hurts my soul. Can people who loved it please explain what exactly they loved about it? Cause aside from the music, voice acting and art the rest was just...mid>>50936428I personally think that's a detriment. I wish they kept the same writers for totsu
>>50936699it was simply fun from the start to the end without single boring route there isn't any conspiracy
>>50936699Totsu lover is better than 9 nine tho
>>50936699>run of the mill light novel/mangawhy is this a bad thing? fun things are fun and totsuraba is complete. i could nitpick several things about the plot and it could've been a bit longer to fix some of those minor issues, but there was nothing outright bad
>>50936707Just being fun isn't enough to justify a rating on par with muramasa. The writing quality consistency is like night and day>>50936709Assuming this isn't bait explain how
>>50936713there may be a philosophical divide here between people who rate things by what they do wrong (wanting to be entertained without anything to take them out of it) and people who rate things by what they do right (wanting something unique or thought-provoking or whatever)
>>50936728it literally ismost people just want to have fun while reading their shit without it being some life changing experience and there are really way too few games that would be consistently fun all the way through
>>50936732>wanting something unique or thought-provokingIf I could only enjoy things that are thought-provoking I wouldn't be reading visual novels.
>>50936539yuzuge sort of fuck it up by having a boring plot most of the time, tone works the h-scenes aren't as good as amakano's, amakano really is the best package for pure love stuff imo, though i'll admit it gets a bit boring after a couple of routes.
>>50936736that's fine, but not everyone feels that way
>>50936713the only downside of light novels is that they almost never have defined theme ending and often are being left on life supporti'm surprised it took someone so long to try and bring the ln style into eroge and it definitely worked way too damn well
>>50936713>>50936744I dunno, Red Cherish felt kinda like that. (Though the side routes were pretty basic.)Arguably Sorceress Alive was like that.Maybe Totsulovers is just a well executed example, havent read it myself.
>>50936713Cause while light novel slop and manga can be fun, it's pretty clear totsuraba tried going beyond that and it fell flat. Every crystalia game technically goes for 'fun' so what sets apart totsu from their other ges, especially Project Katana?>I could nitpick several things about the plotI could write a book but I'll put one of my biggest ones Why make katan's route the most plot relevant and not sakuras when the main antagonist of the true route is a different dimension sakura who was heartbroken from losing her version of enju? Why build up the whole blue heart and orange heart are naturally drawn together thing along with enju falling in love with sakura at first sight as if it were destiny only to make them just barely friends in the true route? It made the grand reveal and the battle for enju between current dimension sakura vs outer dimension sakura less meaningful and impactful. The whole hearts thing was also underutilized and introduced potential plot holes as well
>>50936750the writer came from doujin eroge cycle then switched to lns and got some big success there with works like こちら、終末停滞委員会。so he knows his thing
>>509367359-nine was fun all the way through and it did everything better than totsu outside of music(debatable)
>>50936761yea and i wonder why it also has pretty high ratingthe one thing it did wrong it releasing it by parts instead of a proper completed game
>>50936761imo the only thing 9-nine did better was h-scenesthankfully totsuraba has no kuso sleep-inducing heroine like miyako
>>50936753>tried going beyond thatI dunno what part you thought tried going "beyond being fun". Didn't fall flat for me.
>>50936735It's an issue because it causes rating inflation. There are objective metrics that are observable which defines good writing. This isn't to discount the validity of subjectivity but when you have someone give something like Shigatsu Youka a 10 while also giving, say, Iwaihime a 10, where is the distinction then?
>>50936765>Better imouto(sora) and much better execution of a brothers hesitance to commit incest>Better MC>Better art(im sorry izumi tsubasu wins here)>Better and more cohesive plot with less asspulls>Better execution of emotional scenes and overall dont feel forced>Better romance and H-scenes>Better plot twist>Characters were overall more memorable>Dear My Waker playing in final battle was more hype than anything in totsurabaYeah i dunno, im thinking 9-nine takes this.
>>50936750pillagers of raillore was too even though it wasn't very good.
>>50936781>Characters were overall more memorableidk I enjoyed totsuraba's characters far more. Sora was memorable, not really anyone else. I'd argue about some of the others too but the game itself wasn't very memorable so I wouldn't be able to talk specifics.
>>50936798Only katan was memorable really. Sophia and sui were wasted potential, sakura was your typical kuudere and boring enough that I cared more about other dimension sakura. System Taigoku was fun i guess but he didn't have enough screen time.
>>50936814I liked all the heroines more than I expected to, but the biggest star of the game was the Houzuki family. I love Kaede and Hinoki. Taigoku was awesome too but like you said needed more screentime.
>>50936843Yeah I think we just differ there. The only thing I remember from houzuki family was try hard and failing at making them compelling villains or not actually 'villains' cause they all love each other actually despite trying to kill each other . Hinoki read like a walmart kageaki and kaede like a wannabe Dr west from Extravaganza. They were also the least consistent characters out of the entire cast and had some pretty questionable moments. Not fleshed out enough and definitely not charismatic enough for me to remember. To each their own though
>>50936492this has to be a shitpost, no way somebody can write all that unironically
>>50936870that's just how quof posts
>>50936492Finished Lessons in Love. Wow, what a work. By far the most insightful and intelligent work I've read in a long, long time. It talks about the internet exposes us to the malice of all of humanity. How simply being a good person isn't enough to avoid criticism and personal attacks. How science is eroding idealism. How the fundamental ways in which we interact with people are impacting our lives.There are a lot of observations I've quietly had about life that Lessons in Love brings up and discusses at length. I feel like I understand and have a much better grasp of so things now.But at the same time,I also feel some degree of despair. Lessons in Love paints a grim look at life, one where we are constantly exposed to the malice of all of humanity and can only survive by building our own "holy grounds" (聖域) with those closest to us.That's a summary of the game of course, but I can't help but feel that maybe there really is nothing but pain left in our humanity's future. All the hope and gleaming optimistic is dead in the past. We have the internet now and the global connection is breeding infinite pain.Anyway, to continue this negativity, I should say that while I consider Lessons in Love a phenomenal work, one that seems impossible for a human to have written, it also is by no means flawless. The narrative structure in particular is actually baffling."Non-linear" is an understatement, and for much of the game you have barely any idea what's going on. The mysteries in Lessons in Love are brain-busting, and the text is extremely difficult, with tons of highly technical texts that feel ripped straight of a science journal. I think that Lessons in Love is a goldmine of wisdom and value. But like a real goldmine, you have to dig through a lot of rock to get the gold, and it's not always a pleasant process. For me, though, the gold was worth it in the end. Selebus is a god, confirmed.I think it's easy to sit back and call things trivial while not understanding them yourself. There's a pattern I've seen my whole life where I or someone else have a revelation, and other people pretend they already knew it and that it was obvious and anyone who didn't know it already was basically ignorant and stupid, even when they themselves didn't understand it. Human beings aren't born with universal knowledge of life, we're born as mostly blank slates and we have to crawl our way up from the mud. There are deep truths about lives that many can go their whole lives without realizing, even when they seem so obvious when stated and presented. For this reason it's all a matter of having a humble mindset. If you recognize like Socrates that you know nothing, you can be better equipped to appreciate the wisdom presented to you. If you're an arrogant idiot on 4chan that doesn't realize how little you know, you can just mock wisdom presented to you as stuff everyone should know, while not actually learning or understanding anything yourself.Lessons in Love didn't change my world view, it just gave me language to express some things, and some insights into how human behavior. My world view is largely the same. And of course I am no strangers to books. Lessons in Love reminds me the most of Dostoevsky's writings. As always I must question why supposed VN fans hate them so much and consider them inferior to books. Then again, I feel like in this electronic society, people kind of opt to thinking of books as some kind of status symbol since they themselves have abandoned books and only view them as like peak intellectualism that's above everything else. If you actually read books you'll find they're nothing so transcendental. (Philosophical treatises aside. I'm thinking about fiction here. Naturally a hardcore 300 page philosophy essay will contain more wisdom than your average VN.)
>>50936875good try but wrong romeo vn, lil is based on cross channel
>>50936880You do if you actually want to understand anything about it. To put it very simply, Selebus is far more intelligent than anyone reading this chat, including myself. There are a great deal of very high level concepts in Lessons in Love and any aspiring reader is going to need to accept that he probably doesn’t understand it all. From there, you reach the point of actually researching and interpreting all this shit, which could take years, honestly. And then you also have to consider that the vast majority of people just don’t have the level of reading comprehension or education necessary to really start to approach interpreting and understanding Lessons in Love on anything but a surface level.
>>50936882that's more like it
>>50936492luckily i was asleep when this post was made, but kudos for starting you offtopic spam with "i'm a giga-redditor"
>>50936545Whatever you say, moron. I unironically think Selebus is the best writer of all time across all mediums. His complex treatment of themes, and his deep understanding of human condition is unparalleled and unprecedented. He's a dreamer, teacher and a writer at the same time. The best thing about Lessons in Love is Sensei is literally Selebus. Selebus knows what art truly means, and his uncompromising vision to elevate VNs to the level of art is perfectly executed in Lessons in Love. You really need to give up being a human if you don't like his works/think they are just lowbrow porn. He's the only one in this medium who genuinely wants to make art instead of products to be sold on market for profit. You rarely find people like him even in literary circles. You can find easily flaws in his work but doing so by ignoring what he achieves only makes you a contrarian low iq fuck.
>>50936742there's probably around 10ish VNs that are actually thought provokinghow you read VNs if that's so important to you
>>50936893different people have different thresholds for thought provoking, just as they have different thresholds for fun
>>50936492my problem is that the writing feels dishonest, at least from your screenshots. the whole game feels dishonest. it's just the vibes it gives. like a fake japanese, a fake intellectual, a fake woman.
>>50936902every mystery is dishonest, that's the point
>>50936865>cause they all love each other actually despite trying to kill each otherThat's great. Might've missed the point if you had a problem with that.>Hinoki read like a walmart kageaki???Barely any similarities besides things that are not unique to Kageaki. Comparing sacrifices to 善悪相殺 is pretty stupid if that's what you're thinking of
>>50936905Uhm, no? What a weird whataboutism
I'm playing Elevator Panic the protagonist just got invited to the Elevator Panic club a high society membership club for connoisseurs of rape within elevators. To be invited you must have a love of elevator rape and either 100 million yen or at least two women that you have trained to be obedient due to elevator rape you can trade with other members and enjoy hour long elevator ride from the 80th floor to the first with another member's woman if you bring one to swapmoving on up in the worldi like the girl that was all "you don't have to blackmail me i dont mind cheating on my boyfriend with you, you could have just asked"thought it means he watched them have sex in the elevator and took pictures of it for nothing
>>50936945based vn reader
>>50936492When I look at the first page of Moby Dick I see this:> Call me Ishmael. Some years ago - never mind how long precisely - having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people's hats off - then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship.
>LiL bro unironically compared LiL to Moby Dick
>>50937046si far I like more of what I read in LiL than mobys dick
>>50936775Some things are objective, but what objective things are important to a given reader is subjective.If a guy gives the Zero no Tsukaima PS2 games a 10 because he's been in love with Louise since 2006 and reading them was a religious experience for him, then for that guy they may truly have been 10/10s, even if very few people would share his opinion.People shouldn't rate VNs as being worse than they truly thought they were just because their opinion is an outlier.The unfortunate thing about VNDB's rating system is that that guy's 10 and a 10 from some asshole who only rates things as a 10 or 1 or makes multiple accounts because he wants to outshout everyone else are counted the same despite being vastly different.The solution is to look at reviews, and the reasons why people like or dislike a particular work. At the end of the day, a VN's average rating is just a number.
>>50937103Louise is cute and clearly designed for anal sex.
>>50936940Uhm, yes? Name one that isn't.
>>50936739I remember Azusa's route in dracu-riot to be excruciatingly boring that I resort to ctrl parts of it which is lame since other heroine routes and the common route to be pretty engaging and fun.
>>50937108Anal is for homosexual
>>50937101that's say more about you than about moby dick/lil
>>50937103>The unfortunate thing about VNDB's rating system is that that guy's 10 and a 10 from some asshole who only rates things as a 10 or 1 or makes multiple accounts because he wants to outshout everyone else are counted the same despite being vastly different.this is cope, i deboonked it multiple times using vndb's querying system. the "real" average doesn't change as long as the vn has more than x votes
>>50937103>At the end of the day, a VN's average rating is just a number.and this is also cope btw. the strenght of the "average score" (or votes in general, i hate bayesian but it is what it is) is that it makes it very easy for everyone to give a quick opinion about something they've read. and the more opinions you have = the more accurate the estimate becomes.a review is the same thing but just with more words, and the only extra thing is does is introducing selection bias in your research. you don't need to need reviews of let's say STEINS;GATE, because if you've been more than a week in any vn community (not talking about pseudcords or other circlejerks) or simply look at the average/votes distribution you'll see that it's a kamige. do you really need to read a review to know why? it would just spoil the (potential) 10/10 experience and nothing else. and if you think it's "reddit" without having read it then you'll just cope by assuming that "everybody who wrote a negative review is smart like me". again, this adds nothing.of course, as you(?)'ve said before, nobody can like everything so there's a chance that you'll dislike s;g for literally whatever reason, but the truth remains: if it clicks it clicks, and there will be few things that can top it. oh and of course, this is true for [your favourite thing in the vndb top25] too. of course, it's different when talking about niche/obscure stuff with less than x votes, because in that case it's unknown whether the vn is overshilled but yurishitters or it's actually good, and in that case yeah, reviews help deciding whether it's worth investing your time or not
>>50937190It's not worthless because it's just a number. Numbers can be very informative.The fact that Gyakuten Saiban 4's weighted average is a full point lower than Gyakuten Saiban 3's weighted average is quite telling. And that it conveys this information without any spoilers at all is also extremely useful.But it is just a number. It's only useful when you're doing an apples to apples comparison.Steins Gate may be a very good visual novel, but is it a good nukige? I doubt many people would agree that it is.The reverse is also of course true. もっと！孕ませ！炎のおっぱい異世界おっぱいメイド学園！ is currently the #89 ranked title on VNDB with an 8.29 average. I can't claim to have read the title myself, so forgive me if I'm wrong, but I strongly suspect if you go into it expecting a life-changing kamige you're going to be disappointed. It would be facile and silly to say that it's a better VN than #127 8.18 average Tsukihime just because it has a higher score.One reader's trash is another's treasure. Some people love VNs with high difficulty gameplay, and others hate titles like that and will only play them if they can get cheat engine to work.You know what you like much better than a thousand people on VNDB know what you like.I make use of scores and seek out high-rated titles myselfー who doesn'tー but one passionate, cogent review, positive or negative, counts more with me than 10,000 votes on VNDB.
>>50937306>One reader's trash is another's treasure.this is kinda cope, at least when generalized like that. "one's trash another's tresure" doesn't mean that a dogshit kusoge can be life-changing for 1 person who "played it during childhood and has strong memories associated with it". i'm always talking about vinnies with more than x votes so their reported average is very close to the "real" averagethe "truth" is that there are a lot of different people rating vinnies on vndb, whatever you like it or not. so while it's true that you can't compare apple to oranges by saying that "ooe is better than wa2", you can compare ooe to other blge and it's very likely that it's unironically the peak blge, or that one motto haramase/love x holic is unironically the best nukigemeanwhile 1 review is always one review. if somebody doesn't like bl and rate ooe 6/10, and you also don't like bl, then it's a valuable review for you, but it doesn't change the fact that hundreds of people who love bls decided that ooe is potentially a 10/10 experience for them.
>>50937318ooe is better than wa2 i dont like bl
>>50936775Ratings don't have to just be tied to good writing or another specific metric.If I really loved a nukige just as much as I loved a specific Real Deal game, I might decide to give them the same rating.People are not going to be looking for the same things when considering a nukige vs real deal. Someone might rate one game highly because it's an amazing though provoking storyline, and that same person might rate a silly moege highly because it succeeded in being consistently entertaining and putting a smile on their face throughout.
>>50937345i'm pretty sure that if you make read ooe to every person who have read wa2, they will disagree pretty much unanimously. objectively speaking? maybe you're right, i dunno, but those 2 games are made for 2 completely different demographics
Did anyone here beat the 1st Baldr game?
>>50937403no but i beat maeda's chaos QVEEN ryoukobaldr:kino isn't lifechanging enough for now, i'll slop the whole franchise in 2 years or so
>>50937438uhm actually changing your life implies that the life continues to exist, while kyssing yourself would totally end so it doesn't count as a change in life
>>50937318The closer you get to an apples to apples comparison, the more useful a score comparison will be yes. But there's still nuance, and the score never tells you the whole story.Silent Hill 2 has an 89 on Metacritic and Biohazard 4 has a 96. They're both in the same genre, Survival Horror. To an uninformed outside, they appear to be very similar, but in practice the people who like them enjoy them for totally different reasons. People like Silent Hill 2 for its story, and Biohazard 4 for its gameplay. A person who enjoys Silent Hill 2 and goes into Biohazard 4 expecting a similar experience, or vice versa, may be very disappointed.This pattern occurs very often in visual novels as well. There's a huge difference between an NTR VN people like IN SPITE of having NTR in it, and an NTR VN people like BECAUSE it has NTR in it.You can and should take really, really high and really, really low scores as a recommendation and a red flag, respectively, but outside of the absolute highest and lowest outliers, the nuance becomes much more important than a few points difference.
>>50937494>But there's still nuance, and the score never tells you the whole story.neither the review, you are supposed to consume the thing and make your own opinion about it. the average is simply a pre-filter: can a 6/10 gamelife-change you? yes, but very very unlikely. meanwhile if you go for a kamige then chances are a lot higher>Silent Hill 2 has an 89 on Metacritic and Biohazard 4 has a 96. They're both in the same genre, Survival Horror. To an uninformed outside, they appear to be very similar, but in practice the people who like them enjoy them for totally different reasons. >People like Silent Hill 2 for its story, and Biohazard 4 for its gameplay. A person who enjoys Silent Hill 2 and goes into Biohazard 4 expecting a similar experience, or vice versa, may be very disappointed.yeah i accounted for this, that's why it's the DEMOGRAPHIC that's important, aka WHO i leaving all those positive votes/review, not a work's attribute>You can and should take really, really high and really, really low scores as a recommendation and a red flag, respectively, but outside of the absolute highest and lowest outliers, the nuance becomes much more important than a few points difference.to be completely honest, only outliers are worth reading,
>>50936914I'm talking about his inner conflict with his 'burden'. It just felt hackneyed and glossed over.
I unironically think you should pick what vinnies to read based exclusively on the cover art and nothing else and only find out more information about it once you either finish or drop it.
>>50937381I think you misunderstand what I'm getting at. I don't think comparing VN's from two different genre's, trying to accomplish different things, is an honest and accurate approach. Trying to assess and compare the quality of something like WA2 to Steins Gate would be disingenuous and essentially be comparing apples to oranges. Totsuraba is a chuunige as is Muramasa. That comparison is more apt cause they share a lot of similarities in what they are trying to accomplish. The former having a rating close to the latter becomes problematic as it insinuates that they are similar in quality when that couldn't be farther from the truth to any rational mind that has read both.
>>50936775I rate thing for how well they executed what they were meant to executeIf i'm going to rate musamasa or cross channel highly for its writing, i'm also going to rate highly hatsuyuki sakura for how well it executed its nakige part, demonbane for its action, rance for its gameplay and humor, extravaganza for its horror and suspense, riaimo for its take on imoutos, biman for its nukige quality, and totsuraba too for how well it done the typical ranobe trope it was aiming for, you get the ideaFor me they all the exactly same value, it's just retarded trying to treat something for what it isn't if the first place
>>50937659That's a fair premise followed by an insane claim that Totsuraba and Muramasa trying to accomplish the same thing. And even if they did, them having similar score would just mean that people on average judged that they were in fact similar in quality and it would not be problematic at all
>>50937681Yeah. If anything, I'd say totsuraba is closer to the Clochette style than Muramasa.
>>50937659>Totsuraba is a chuunige as is Muramasaagain, you need to think about what's behind the work, not the work itself. if you think the raison d'etre of totsuraba is the same of muramasa then you lack basic media literacy, those games have 2 VERY different target demographics in mind, even if both could be classified as chuunige
>>50937659>Totsuraba is a chuunige as is MuramasaSchool superpower battle chuuni and nitroplus hardcore dark chuuni are two completely separate genres of chuuni, you can't just lamp it all togetherIt's like saying s;g and demonbane are exactly the same just because they both features sci-fi while one goes into hard sci-fi territory while the other just use it as a mere coolness factor
>>50937673But we're not talking about rating VN's on how well they executed what they set out to do(which is the correct way to judge a given work), we're talking about VN's that share enough similarities in themes, core elements and genre identity that such a comparison is valid and doesn't stray into apples and oranges territory.>>50937681They have enough in common in terms of chuuni tropes and themes employed to make it a valid comparison.
>>50937689>>50937702If we really want to split hairs, then sure, something like 9-nine would be a more fair comparison. If totsuraba didn't try to take itself more seriously with certain moral themes endemic to chuuniges(especially with their attempt to explore and humanize the villains to make them more compelling and deep) to go into dark chuuni territory, I wouldn't be comparing it to Muramasa. But it did, so i did.
>>50937659>The former having a rating close to the latter becomes problematic as it insinuates that they are similar in qualityIf I enjoy both games to a similar extent, I will rate both similarly. Simple as.The fact I derive enjoyment in different ways from each is irrelevant."Ah man, I fucking love X game, but it's not real deal enough to get the same rating as Y game. Better rate it lower."
one of the only things i have been looking forward to in a while
I'm hype for this.I'm in a desert and onee-chans are my water. I'm not picky anymore, all I need is doting heroines that MC acknowledges as 姉.
what am i in for?
>>50939085it doesn't take place on the moon i'm sorry
>>50939212brb uninstalling
>>50903764I know this is for untranslated VNs, but does anyone who read muramasa in japanese know what these kanji say? it's near the start of the hero route
>>50939217looks like 神氣
>>50939217uhm actually this is the thread for people who read IN japanese so it's ok
>>50939231oh actually? nicecan't tell if joking lol>>50939226damn you could be right thanks
>>50939236>This thread is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels read untranslated in Japanese.
sovl
Can someone explain to me why the Baldr series is considered to be visual novel when it is so hard you legit need to be a fighting games expert to beat them?
>>50939275Just cheatengine it
>>50939275because the gameplay is filler, the vn part is the actual game. if it was the opposite then it wouldn't be a vn
Steam has started including play time tracking for non-steam games.Handy for me as I'd like to start contributing play times to vndb more often.
>>50939297why not just manictime
>>50939301why not just time(1)
>>50939284Does everyone who play this series legit do that? I don't want to feel guilty later for doing it and discover that everyone did their best to beat it... I know that lots of people do this for Alice-soft games, but they are simply and you just need to grind a little bit to win, but here? it is a real nightmare.>>50939286Can the gameplay still be considered a filler if it makes you stuck in 1 fight for more than 5 hours and you would end up seeing your time in the gameplay section 10x your time in the story parts? Am legit stuck there and I wish to just see how the story would end... am like a couple of fights from it, but am just stuck...
>>50939297why not just check your clock
>>50939307>Does everyone who play this series legit do thatIf I wanted to play videogames I'd go do that. VNs are reading time.
>>50939307>Can the gameplay still be considered a filler if it makes you stuck in 1 fight for more than 5 hours and you would end up seeing your time in the gameplay section 10x your time in the story parts? Am legit stuck there and I wish to just see how the story would end... am like a couple of fights from it, but am just stuck...yes, it mean you have a skill issue.
>>50939297This will bloat your time if you ever afk because steam simply counts how long the game runs
>>50939315uhm just don't be afk?
>>50939317what if i have to shit
>>50939309What if the writers made the story and the gameplay connected? by that I mean that you wouldn't appreciate a certain part of the story if you didn't feel the gameplay and how hard it was, like if MC think about how this war was hell and you just cheated to go through it, can you really self-insert as him to the full potional?>>50939313But I don't. I play video games regularly and do good in them, but this fight is not normal at all.https://files.catbox.moe/2glqgy.mp4I took this video of some random attempts, don't think this is my skills, I was doing very bad here and my good runs are better, but just see how strong the enemies are... as someone who can't do combos? It is very painful. Am not into fighting games, so I can' do what this ge is asking me to do when it teaches me those moves, but am still using what I can and it should've been enough...
>>50939325close the game. it's a fucking vn, not gta online
>>50939327then it's a bad game
>>50938882Real
>>50939315What options wouldn't include afk? Besides just manually timing it yourself.
>>50939327>But I don't. I play video games regularly and do good in them, but this fight is not normal at all.are you playing without sound? you might be missing sound cuesalso ask chatgpt to google some japanese walthrough of the game, they should have something with cheeses/tactics/tips/etc
>>50939328Literally why would you bother doing this autism instead of installing normal tracker that doesn't track when you alt tab
>>50939336>this autism>installs additional bloat insteadok
>>50939336>installing normal tracker that doesn't track when you alt tabname one
>>50939337There is no bigger bloat than steam.
>>50939339it's not bloat if you need it
>>50939338manictime works out of box without needing to setup anything
>>50939339For me I was already using it for controller support.
>>50939338I haven't used one in a while but these have idle detectionhttps://strlen.com/procrastitracker/https://github.com/ActivityWatch/activitywatch
>>50939297Play time is fundamentally mistaken as a metric. Dracu-riot and Muramasa are almost exactly the same length yet one is 20 hours and the other is 90 hours. The only metric that should be used to measure length is character count. I don't know why this is so difficult for people to grasp, I'm pushing the revolutionary idea that a book is as long as the number of pages it has.
>>50939900>a book is as long as the number of pages it hasThat can vary wildly based on paper size and type setting. I'm pretty sure that English language publishers at least go out of their way to fuck around with typesetting to try to get a lot of novels to be around 300 pages or at least to get a comfortable physical size with the paper/binding being used.
>>50939900I do wish vndb had a character count field like https://jiten.moe/
>>50940012There's a script that grabs character counts from that site and displays them on vndb pages which is nice
Got https://vndb.org/v834 from galgame but it asks me for the disc to play and rhe download didn't have it. Any help pleas?
>>50940106https://files.catbox.moe/l97liv.rar>>50940012This does.https://jpdb.io/visual-novel-difficulty-list
>>50939900>The only metric that should be used to measure length is character count.you do understand that H-scenes do inflate character count? Dracu-Riot has like 4 medium length H-scenes per heroine, while Muramasa has much less and scenes are shorter. Of course this can't explain difference between 20 and 90 hours, but like ~5 hours difference might exist.
>>50940001Ironically anon shot himself in the foot there; books, too, should be measured by character/letter count as well. >>50940173There's no such thing as inflating character count. The character count is the raw marker of length whether a scene is shallow or deep. That's all subjective. It's like saying a movie's length was inflated by action scenes or something, or a song's length was inflated by a drum solo. Length is length.
>>50940159Don't think that site gets updated anymore, unlike jiten
>>50939900>Play time is fundamentally mistaken as a metric. >Dracu-riot and Muramasa are almost exactly the same length yet one is 20 hours and the other is 90 hours.how's that mistaken? i don't care about the character count, i need to know how much of my life will be wasted on the vn
>>50940231You can extrapolate how long something will take based on the character count. Play time is flawed because people list biased information, like only playing one route, or ctrling through h-scenes, etc, on top of people having wildly different reading speed - within a normal range any given person could be like x2 slower or x2 faster than you, someone could list a game as taking them 20 hours while someone else lists it as 40 and you would have no idea which is closer to your reading speed.Meanwhile, if you know you've read a 1 million character game in 30 hours, you know pretty much exactly how long another 1 million character game will take.
>>50940233do you know what "average" is?>Meanwhile, if you know you've read a 1 million character game in 30 hours, you know pretty much exactly how long another 1 million character game will take.uhm no? gameplay can double the playing time
>>50940235Not enough people are listing their playtimes for there to be a meaningful average. Sometimes it's literally just like 10 guys and one guy puts in 5 hours because he dropped it and there's no systems to stop that. Not to mention if you're below/above average than playtimes still won't really tell you anything. >gameplay can double the playing timeDon't be facetious; most VNs don't have gameplay. Obviously playtime is somewhat more relevant if you're playing a rare VN with JRPG gameplay but that's not usual.
>>50940239>Not enough people are listing their playtimes for there to be a meaningful average.30+ is enough and you are coping about outliers. also if you click on playime you can use stdev to find you you reading time based on the average>Obviously playtime is somewhat more relevant if you're playing a rare VN with JRPG gameplay but that's not usual.>it's better until it's notor just use the playtime for everything?show me 1 game with 30+ votes where you playtime was further than 2stds
>>50940233>Meanwhile, if you know you've read a 1 million character game in 30 hours, you know pretty much exactly how long another 1 million character game will take.You wouldn't necessarily know how long 1 million character will take for you in another game, though.
>>50940243Here's a gameplay game for you: Hundred Line took me 95 hours to fullcomp, but the playtime average is 156 on vndb.
>>50940321>less than 2 stds differencealso afaik the patched it after launch to speed things up
>>50940159Thanks.
>>50940233The notes section usually includes whether someone only played one route. It includes whether they skipped h-scenes, skipped voices, or listened to everything all the way through. It includes whether they were slow or fast at reading it. When there are slow, medium, and fast paces listed for releases played in JP, I know my pace will be around the middle ground.I like seeing notes on how long common route took, or how long to expect for a first playthrough.I'd much rather have all of this info to judge on than just 'this game was X number of characters'. Not to mention some games/books of similar character count can be a far denser and slower read than others.
>>50940020link it
>>50939268ok so, funny story timeapparently this ge has 2 main releases, the og one and the voiced renewal edition, but the problem is that>ogmusic doesn't loop, game crashes with sfx on, no voice acting but easy to run>renewalit's a bitch to mount, you need to crack it, but then everything is perfect, as long as you have windows xp (vm is fine too) to run it for some reason.point is, i simply set windows version to xp on wine and it worked flawlessly on my main setup. another W for troonux
>>50940634https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/549246-vndb-character-count
>>50917311IDBLT
>>50939268>>50940692Oh wow someone else actually reading this game. I really loved that one. It's very unique, quite atmospheric, and the mystery is quite well done imo. The main trio is pretty fun and a lot of the side characters were cool too. Enjoy anon.
>>50941632thanks, i just installed it but i'll go through it in june or something.at the end i've decided to read all age until age maniax
>>50941636Same reason I ended up playing it. D ～その景色の向こう側～ was probably my favorite game of everything that was in that crossover except like Phantom of Inferno. Although I technically haven't read some of the games that super random one-off apperance characters were in.
>>50941672thoughts on age maniax itself?
Is egs more complete than vndb when it comes to tracking ancient and obscure japanese releases or are they roughly the same?
>>50941973having played most of the pre-90s games on vndb and having dumped early egs years to excel:egs has less stuff (though it includes more non-strictly-vns) but it has more votes on untranslated stuff. like fairytale/cocktailsoft games have very few votes on vndb but are relativaly popular on egs
CRYSTALiAGODShttps://x.com/CRYSTALiA_AC/status/2054051121183011239
>>50942056What?
>>50942064popular = LE GOOD
>>50942075It's true.
>>50942077maybe on planet 100iq
>>50942082Thats already higher than the average iq here, so clearly not on Earth
>>50941968It's decently funny and amusing with various references to the previous Age works. Pretty much what you'd expect from a crossover fandisc like that.
>>50942091do i need to read phantom pain/pure mail/other non-age stuff?
>>50942094Nah, those are just fleeting references/cameos at best. Several age characters do actually play prominent roles (e.g. the Izumi sisters obviously) so those are a little more required.
>>50942112>Izumi sistersthe only reason i'm grinding all the side-games
Finally alldebrid got rapidgator to workif anyone need something i can reup while my sub active
>>50942319very based if true
vndb is kill
what will you do if vndb will never be back?
>>50942538i'll make /vn/db
>>50942538We all switched to Kaguya already.
>>50942612not into yurishit
>>50942612But i'm not indian enough for it
>>50942612
>>50942714Poor bastard's never had dirty talk in his life
>>50942714Aren't Kara no Shoujo's girls middle schoolers?
>>50942817It'd be a kamige if that was the case, but no.
>>50942820In the second game the girls are in 櫻羽女学院高等部一年, that would mean that inhe first game a year before they would be on the equivalent of middle school no? Unless the 高等部 is supposed to be a college?
How's the Japanese reception to the ToHeart remake?
>>50936522>>50936545I can't believe this was you Kumiko. Why would you do that? That's really mean. I feel betrayed.
vndb is deadthat reminds me if it comes back is there way to export your profileI spent way too much time last year going through the save files of everything i played to add start and finish dates and add notes for everything and add everything to the list and also my wishlists and stuff to lose it all
>>50942896normally that should have been the first thing you do after that announcement
>>50942904yeah wellbetter late than neverUnless it doesn't come back, then late is the same as never.
>>50942840Wow, based.Raises the game up in my backlog.>>50942846Open its Steam page, add "?l=japanese" at the end of the URL.
>>50942906good news to you it's back
>>50941986Well I only care about db completeness in this case. Thanks.
>>50943126egs cant be trusted because they sometimes delete games on request like irodori
>>50942932I still dont know how to export that stuff though
>>50945800There's an export button on your list.
>>50945199Unironically the ultimate grammar test
>>50945931small-time
>>50945943>slam your keyboard>call it a language
>>50945931Jap grammar is super easy, understanding the meaning of sentences takes some time, but it's not impossible
>>50922662 When will Japan make moege without zoomer heroines again?
>>50946516when they will make an eroge with only gen alpha heroines
>>50946617HenPri takes place in ~2032 with oldest heroine being born in 2012.
hidden jopgem: https://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/27283
there a machi demo in the ps1's otogirsou's disk
>>50947590speaking about it what version is the best? i read that psp one censored a lot
>>50947601machi or otogirisou?
>>50947603machi
>>50947605only the saturn version is uncensored, so i guess might as well read the psp one which has more stuff, but dunnoi'm also not sure which version of otogirisou to read, fuck all these bloated extended version of og games
>>50947623i wonder to what extent it's censored, if it's only few scenes then probably not worth it
>>50947632it's even more censored than the already censored ps1 one, so i doubt it could get any more censored
>>50903764what the fuck is going on here?
https://x.com/figamin/status/2054900669320962389geg IDBLT
>>50947662feels good being a jep!
>>50947641that game doesn't works with texthookers
>>50947677eh I've been studying with this game and so far it worked, I closed and opened the game again and it works now.
>>50947700heh, you fell into my trap, hooktroon
>>50947641Is this actually any good?
>>50947705it's decent, I'm having fun so far (I miss half a route and the true route). pic related is best girl and best side routes by a mile.
Anemoi? Currently mid. Would become a hit in the future like other Key games but there is no Maeda involvement at all so it will at most be a cult classic.Totsuraba?Most overrated shit of all time. Fun, enjoyable? Yes. Amazing? No this would be run of the mill shit in the 2000s. This would just be another canvas 2.
>>50948489>Most overrated shit of all time*blocks your path*https://vndb.org/v2153
>>50948489Thanks for your contrarian contribution, 4chan wouldn't be the same without you
>>50948493Ok sorry for the hyperbole because I agree with that one. Thought you were gonna link me Muramasa and I would have to fist fight you. Most overrated of the current decade then.
>>50948493There's like 100 characters in this and I only like one
>>50948489Totsuraba is better than anemoi tho
Urobuchi bros we are so backhttps://game.rakuen-tsuiho.com/en/
>>50948713Does he have literally any involvement in this whatsoever?
>>50948719He wrote the original movie and the sequel movie is also written by him which is in production also this franchise was created in collaboration between toei animation and nitroplus
>>50948736Okay, but do we know if he's actually writing this VN?
which tl tools support hebrew? my cousin doesnt know english
>>50948975floodtroon...
>>50949012i wish i was jewish...
the day of the oven is coming soon no you dont
>>50939275>>50939307>>50939327is this you?
>>50949926mind your own business
>>50949926GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>50949926i wonder what he would say after playing demonbane sequel
>>50949926So I kicked him in the head 'til he was dead hahaha.
>>50948713This looks awful. What happened to anime?https://x.com/efp_official/status/2055120989495992773
>>50950237Looks sovl to me
Having a game click enough to be able to binge through it all is great, but those are few and far between in my experience.What do you do when you're in the middle of a long game and it's not one you want to drop, but the remaining length feels daunting? Do you start another game to swap between? Or just try to power through that first game before starting anything else?
>>50950318I will not play the game if i don't feel like doing itif i still want to finish the game but can't get desire to do it after a week or two i will force myself to speedread through the boring parts
>>50950318i have 2 more shitty games i don't wanna play so i can always cope by playing the least worst one of those
>>50950330How about just reading something good instead?
I wish I knew coding so I could create voice patches for some games that have voice acting only on PS2 releases.
>>50950337it's a matter of principle. i made a decision and i'll take the responsibility for it.
>>50950379That's admirable. I'm playing Air and the voice acting really is everything >>50934655The characters are written with strong characterizations and quirks, but the voices make them 100 times stronger.
>>50950318I take a break from it and read other things for a while.Sometimes a VN is awesome but you're just burnt out on it.
>>50950318There are a lot of <100 pages books and short story collections by famous authors that you can read without commitment. It's my go to in between VN's.
>books
>>50950642or you can go read one heroine nukiges instead
>>50950648books are ok as long as they are longer than 50 hours
Just collected all of 雨傘日傘事務所 games if anyone needs (except The tower of Ouroboros which is nowhere to be found)https://pixeldrain.net/u/u7rqsFmf
Are there any other games with a depressed salaryman MC for me to relate to like muramasa or meteor world actor?
>>50951214https://vndb.org/v19771
>>50951219I'm afraid to play this game series for personal reasons but thank you.
>>50951224It's actually way better than you could possibly imagine, managed to unironically cure my soul
>>50951232I don't know how to say it in an ok way but I'm going to relate to the MC too much in a painful way especially in regards to his romantic interests. Let's just say I got "dumped" today.
>>50951246It actually doesn't touch much regarding loli interests, it honestly would feel no different if the heroine wasn't oneporori himself said that he is not into lolis and only went with the idea of the artist because all his previous works sold badly and this was basically his last attempteven though i love lolis myself none of the h scenes there even managed to make me hard because i was so much overwhelmed with the kindness that is game is soaked withit's really one of a kind experience, none of the other games of the series managed to surpass the first game (together with fandisk)
>>50951256Ok, I'll give it a try. Are the games after the first mostly a rehash/slight build up of the message of the first game? The reviews made them sound very philosophical, even in regard to loli content.
>>50951270The 2nd was pretty much complete opposite of the first one, it was more plot focused and the atmosphere felt too heavy so i didn't like itthe 3rd game was very close in the feelings to the first one, and all of the games with twins already felt a bit too much focused into nukige part
>>50951202Damn, I had a handful of them on the backlog. Thanks.
>>50951292I heard that ヴィザルの日記 is a very good quality 燃えゲー, didn't get to try it yet though
announcement of announcement!https://x.com/madostaff/status/2055226684366860422
>>50951202Actually just found that The tower of Ouroboros is on hsuki vip, if anyone here happen to have vip
>>50951214Damekoi
>>50951256That sounds like bullshit I played some of the one with the two girls and every other line of dialouge was mentioning how the protag is a pedo and the girls are lolis
>>50951583You should try the first game
>>50951584OkayI played this and liked it but I guess it was a flop that pushed him to that dark side of what you say is truehttps://vndb.org/v14850
>>50951586This looks disgusting
>>50951565I am not in the right mindset to read a game with an may-december romance.
>>50951586His previous games are also pretty well written especially https://vndb.org/v18216
>>50951587It was cute when protagonist bonded with the imouto over the classic English literature.
>>50951588only 1 route is may-december romance
>>50951588>>50951565C'mon guys, 28 isn't may, 28 is young
How do I buy games on DLsite these days? They blocked all my payment info but there's a new VN I want to buy.
>>50951614I use BitCash since it's easy to buy with crypto.
>>50951619Okay it has to be a method that's no more than one extra step than using my credit card they don't allow anymore because I do want to support them here but c'mon.
>>50951625just buy gift card points if they still can be bought https://forbooks.jp/en/products/dld003p
>>50951614last time I tried I could buy points with amazon pay
>>50951586>You should know my sister is a huge slutI wonder how does porori know so much about woman moments.
>>50951256>porori himself said that he is not into lolisconsidering that he makes a compelling defense for it.
Machinist Childe latest DLSite 035https://vik1ngfile.site/f/GwKxVa9DuO
A year of nothing ever happening
>>50952326we got 2 goodge last month
>>50952326Meteor world actor gaslight bullet ,dimension totsu lover
>>50952326This year has the most good releases in last 5 years
>>50952555maybe on planet double digits iq
>>50952558Now tell which year managed to satisfy your high iq needs
>>509525652023
>>50952569nothing good besides geminism and hihiru
>>50952576see >>50952558
>>50952577i'll take it over living on the planet of slop
>>50952585>copessasuga
play butcha's game
>>50948489I call it the oasis in the desert effect.
Subtle eroticism.
New thread doko?
>>50952592not with that male cast
>>50952807we stay koko
Anybody has this vn?https://vndb.org/v14321
>>50952945https://www.shinnku.com/files/galgame0/4/2014%E5%B9%B49%E6%9C%88/%5B140926%5D%5Bonomatope%EF%BC%8A%5D%20%E5%BD%BC%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%8C%E4%BF%BA%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8C%E3%81%9F%E3%82%82%E3%81%AE%E3%80%82%E4%BF%BA%E3%81%8C%E5%BD%BC%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%AB%E3%81%82%E3%81%92%E3%82%8B%E3%82%82%E3%81%AE%E3%80%82%20%EF%BD%9EKISS%20My%20Darling%EF%BC%9A%E3%82%81%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E5%A9%9Acase3%EF%BD%9E%20(mdf%2Bmds%2Brr3).rar
Key me up inside.
lol
>>50952983>peak of jap humor be like
>>50953089Not "peak", high.
>>50952555>>50952330Is the new Masadage among them? No. Nothing good has been released.
>>50953602It's never coming out bro.
Imagine the world where light would have not flopped with gacha and go from business
>>50953602masada can only write midge
>>50953713trvke
>>50953721this is ojisan thread we don't know what that means
UUUUUOOOOOOOOHHHH BAANNNZZAAAIIIIIIIIIIII
Are the yuumi hentai scenes good in the sakurano series?
For whatever reason it's not as funny in Japanese
>>50953994you didn't read subahibi if you read it in not-english-localization
>>50953602>all ages trashAvesta is cancelled by the way
I love all-ages kamige.
>>50954136Name one masadage that is famous for its h-scenes
>>50954156Dear My Friend
>>50954156I recall seeing posts saying that KKK's were surprisingly good before, but I've never bothered to check them out myself.
>>50954159Madara h scenes were pure kino, you are heavily missing out
https://vndb.org/v50283/chars#charshow hard is jap in this?
>>50954210Approximately three hard, which is a lot more than two.
>>50954210babby-tier
>>50954210if you want stat autismhttps://jiten.moe/decks/media/113282/detail
>>50954136Just read the LN
>>50954224I dunno why Masada's held up the digital version of the LN for so long, there's absolutely no reason that should be hard to prepare. But anyways since the first volume's finally getting a reprint I bought all of them, looking forward to reading it.
>>50954224it's going to spoil the vn
How to download from baidu now that kdown requires wechat
>>50954159Can confirm Sakuya scenes are great
>>50954218>same difficulty level as steins;gatethought it's gonna be harder judging from vndb screenshots
>>50954142Is BST actually enjoyable to read?
>>50954519Yeah, it's some great stuff. I loved the mafia family stuff and the intrigue surrounding different internal factions and secret societies, and having a protagonist be the head of that family makes for an interesting perspective. I don't think there's any other VN quite like it (maybe RGD, haven't read it). The various other character perspectives and the way they end up intertwining with each other are good as well.
>>50954299Dunno, try asking in that one Rin thread.
>>50948975anyone?
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>>50954210still not reading it shill
>>50954806meds
