Are there certain tropes, genres or elements that could come off as "too western" in an alienating way to japanese audiences, just like plenty of anime tropes are alienating to western normies and some genres like mecha, or mahou shoujo aren't popular in the west? I've been reading plenty of articles and forum threads regarding how western nerd shit that was popular worldwide back then like Star Trek or Dungeons and Dragons were always very niche in japan, how american and european comics always failed to get an hold there, how western fantasy like Sanderson and other fantasy novels that would be considered "entry level" in the west constantly flop in Japan, and even why some actual japanese series like Sonic or Trigun were never popular idue to the heavy foreign influences, and I'd like see if I can get more in-depth answers regarding my doubts.
>>50924943But it is popular in Japan the way it is overseas.
>>50924943My writing group has a guy whose book actually did hit it off pretty decently in Japan, despite being obscure in his country. He was talking about how he mostly accidentally did it and it was pretty enlightening. One of the big barriers is the cultural differences are everywhere and pervasive, and Japanese people are much less generally tolerant of differences than an Anglosphere who's probably been exposed to a tide of different cultural values enough to look past that detail. If your story doesn't have them thinking like Japanese people would and deal with themes compatible to their worldview it's going to fall into niche appeal by default.
>>50924943>And even why some actual japanese series like Sonic or Trigun were never popular idue to the heavy foreign influencesIt's because the Mega Drive did poorly in Japan thanks to shit marketing. It has nothing to do with "heavy foreign influences" when Dragon Quest is the most popular franchise of all time here. Sonic Jam exists solely to accommodate the issue since Sonic is Sega's mascot.How about actually experience Japanese like >>50925227 instead of listening bullshit on the internet?>>50925241Again, Dragon Quest. Try again.
>>50924943Isn't it all the same? I see a lot of westerners talk about anime on twitter and the same for Japanese people posting about western works. In both sides of the world, I'm sure that if you asked someone random on the streets there's a high chance they've only watched very popular anime/western tv shows.
>>50924943Alice in Wonderland
>>50924943You have no idea.Even back then, before any /jp/sie was even born, Western media have already taken root within Japanese nerds.For example literally how JRPGs began as a genre. Some westaboo played D&D before it was even translated into Japanese and made it into a game.Which is why JRPGs tend to have D&D-like monsters, classes, archetypes, and more, but not accurate to the ruleset of the board game.Because Japanese D&D nerds started making D&D-inspired videogames before D&D itself actually released in Japan, and so other Japanese people played the inspiration before the actual boardgame.It's like a secondary playing Touhou fangames before playing the official shmups, and making a game based on the fangames, instead of the official games.
>>50925820Speaking of RPGs, Wizardry and UItima (possibly the two most influential RPGs in Japan of old) btw are great examples of western RPGs taking root more in the Japanese mind than even westerners. Wizardry and the "blobber" genre is alive and well in Japan but pretty much dead everywhere else in the world.
>>50924943For a little context, the much beloved Daicon opening animation is set to an Electric Light Orchestra song and has a bunch of Star Wars motifs in ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-840keiiFDE
>>50924943ARPGs like Path of Exile often get a small niche audience in there. Though i guess they are more popular with the Koreans and Chinese than with the Japanese.
>>50924943It literally isJaps LOVE King of the Hill
>>50925227Other kinds of western media might be, but I really don't think cartoons are that popular outside of disney movies. The cartoon board on 5ch averages like 10 posts a day, and there are threads there that have been up for almost 20 years. It is really funny to see Japanese anons talk about how soulless anime is compared to cartoons though.
>>50924943>mediaWestern music and movies are definitely more popular in Japan than Japanese music and movies are in the west
>>50924943It does, is just random stuff. Wizardry, Call of Cthulhu, etc.
>>50924943You're out of the loop.Stuff like Undertale/Deltarune and Hazbin Hotel is currently crazy popular in Japan.
>>50925257Didn't answer the trigun one
>>50935087It has figures and movies and remakes. It wouldn't get those if it wasn't more popular than whatever no name anime of the season #3254.
How are Marvel and DC viewed in Japan?
