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Is Helldivers 2 /k/ approved?
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>>64182591
Only a step above Gacha
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>>64182591
Its fun except for the reddit bullshit
>uh actually we're the bad guys and the robots with red eyes and chainsaws for arms are the good guys
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>>64182611
This is literally never said and never happened.
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>>64182611
Not so much they are the good guys, more that they've got an actual reason for wanting to fight against your dickbag government.
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>>64182611
I think it's more of a light-hearted 40k take where everyone is the bad guy
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>>64182591
moving past the bullshit,
fuck yes it's good. the attention to detail in the firearms is insane. you will actually notice magazine counts on the gun, adjustments to the actual switches when changing firing mode, an autistic level of detail towards the ammo itself. hell, you'll even notice the shells you leave behind on the ground. you just need to stop and look.
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>>64182611
You know you can just reject their premise right? You can interpret things however you want. Like with the Starship Troopers movie.
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>>64182591
It's genuinely upsetting to me how blatantly they cribbed the models for the bugs and automatons from Warhammer 40k and Starcraft. Both of those franchises are also incredibly derivative, but it's like 70/30 versus Helldiver 2's 1:1. Helldivers 2 has zero ideas or actual vision and just parasitically exists by stealing them away from the more talented.
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T r a s h
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>>64182710
True and based. The fact that recoilless rifles have backblast that can throw you several meters back is fun
>>64182735
This anon doesn't like having fun
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>>64182591
measures high on the Reddit scale (lots of trans memes and meDia lITerocY and le Fachsim) but overall it's cool and cinematic and fun so long as you don't interact with the community. Wish it was harder tho desu
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>>64182717
this guy knows whats up
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>>64182902
What in the fuck is wrong with your dome
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>>64182735
>stealing them away from the more talented
And that's completely fine because unlike most derivatives the game is actually fun.
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>>64182735
>it's like 70/30
Fucking lmao
Blizzard literally aped games workshop
And games workshop... are you for real, their settings are just soup
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>>64182591
Fuck yeah
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>>64182611
man the other factions only had a vague point of 'maybe they're right' in the first game, by HD2 everythings fucked
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>>64182717
Yep. Every time my bros and I drop on a mission, we are bringing the light of liberty to the darkness. We smash the foes of mankind, and raise the banner of freedom high.
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>>64183025
>Blizzard literally aped games workshop
Blizzard was making a 40k game but then there was a disagreement and they ended up repurposing the assets to make StarCraft. Same way Titan was canceled and the assets were repurposed to make Overwatch. What's funny is that everyone looks at the StarCraft designs and thinks that it's a blatant ripoff, but when it first came out, Tyranids looked like this. StarCraft creative design had as big of an impact on the development of 40k as the other way around.

Same deal with Warcraft and D&D. Blizzard is the source of the now-popular perception of orcs as giant green noble savages. Prior to Orcs & Humans, orcs were generally depicted as stocky brown pig-men.
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>>64182591
Besides one of the devs being allergic to fun, yes
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>>64183163
>Blizzard is the source of the now-popular perception of orcs as giant green noble savages
They lifted giant green mongoloid directly from GW
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I think it's fun. I have a fun time playing with randos because people generally do try to work together 9 times out of 10.
>posters ITT: but it's le reddit >:(
I swear rote contrarianism is the worst thing to happen to mankind. God forbid anyone would want to play some vidya to have a whimsical time amirite?
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>>64183423
Warhammer orks have always been green, but not particularly noble or savage. They're the comic relief faction for the most part.
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>>64183488
Yes but the huge muscle bound green freak with a mongol aesthetic was copied 1 for 1
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>>64183432
>God forbid anyone would want to play some vidya to have a whimsical time amirite?
It is very important to me that you have a fun whimsical time for the correct reasons and not the incorrect reasons, that you don't understand this obvious truth makes you evil and I shan't be inviting you to my birthday party.
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>>64182735
>stole the automatons from starcraft/40k

And what pray tell are the automation in 40k/starcraft that they're "stealing"?
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>>64183488
They've had Mongol+Biker aesthetic for ever, don't now about noble but savage works have been a warhammer fantasy thing for a longtime as well
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>>64183517
Damn phoneposting, *forever, *orks
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>>64182710
For me it's the way that enemies will stagger back when hit by ballistic weapons but just slump to the ground when hit by laser weapons because laser bolts/beams have no mass. It's such a small detail but it really tickles my 'tism. Also the idea of playing as disposable cannon fodder is honestly quite refreshing after years of special snowflake hero shooters.
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>>64182902
Nigger, the devs literally told troons to fuck off when they begged for a tranny flag cape. Developers cannot be blamed for troons attempting to colonize anything popular.
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>>64183546
>troon colonizers

Heh. This totally needs to be a meme.
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>>64182735
>W A R H A M M E R fan
>complaining about stealing from other Ips
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>>64182710
>stop and look.
This helldiver was turned into paste by a charger five minutes later as he was observing his spent casings.
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There must be a few /k/fags are Arrowhead just because the level of autism for the weapons is far above most games
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>>64182735
>40k and starcraft fan upset at ip theft
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>>64183163
I imagine the guy at GW that was responsible for backing out of that deal has a framed picture somewhere in their HQ with a plaque underneath it that reads MOST FIRED MAN EVER.
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>>64183508
Necrons maybe? The only other factions that make heavy use of robotics are the Ad Mech and Votann. The latter of which didn't exist until very recently.
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>>64183967
Oh and the Tau, but the aesthetics don't match up at all.
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>>64182591
>>>/v/
>>>/vg/
Go be underage somewhere else, this board is for adults only
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>>64182591
Go shill your bullshit somewhere else.
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>>64182735
>Both of those franchises are also incredibly derivative, but it's like 70/30 versus Helldiver 2's 1:1
Wrong, you just like those franchises so you weasel and wiggle and edit your memories so it's different.
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>>64183943
Must be. Only a gun autist would take the Halo guns and give them more mechanically accurate animations.
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>>64184106
OG Halo had very accurate and detailed weapon animations and mechanics, and they were all workable designs (the human guns at least). The lead animator was a shooter and insisted on it. For eg little details like swiping safeties. Apparently it stopped being true pretty quickly into the series, but I'd suggest taking another look at the early animations.
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Found it boring after a single operation. Don't know how people can play this for hours on end
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>>64184126
The cooperative aspect is where a lot of the value comes from.
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>>64184115
Oh yeah, the first game certainly has the best, and they fell off in detail afterwards. I like how the team for this actually has the smg’s charging handle used on an empty reload. And how the AR ammo counter still accounts for a round in the chamber on a tactical reload. Those little details tickle me.
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>>64182611
That was only half-true in Helldivers 1
>Technically the borgs are the ones on the receiving end of an invasion at first, however they are still Strogg expys with butchered corpses chained to their bodies and brutally murder anyone they can
>Bugs are deadly superpredators but aren't any more hostile to humanity than, say, a lion or bear, but after hundreds of generations of being farmed for oil they now have evolved to have a burning hatred for humanity
>Ayys are peaceful hippies with supertech, including mind control, who are attacked allegedly because they have WMDs when really it's just to steal their tech, now the only surviving remnants are ultra-militaristic zealots who are mind controlling entire planetary populations and melding them into golem-soldiers because they don't have enough numbers of natural grown soldiers to do so

HD1 was a comedy satire of US "Imperialism", HD2 is a ironic twist in that all of Super Earth's problems are made by themselves.

Also, pro tip, just because your own nation isn't great doesn't mean it's not the better choice when the alternative is death and being eaten, death and then zombification, or death and then having your brain shoved in a Berserker and sent to kill your family and friends.
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>>64183943
They're Swedes, it's probably the conscription that did it.
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>>64182717
>making your own interpretation
Yikes! That's not very media literacy of you!
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>>64182591

Fun. Even funner with friends, which I don't have. Still fun at least.
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>>64184322
Actually, its always been a satire of European Colonialism and its consequences. And, the worship of Democracy by SE is clearly mocking the secular worship of Science and Liberalism as surrogate religions in Europe.
To be fair though, not everybody has the IQ to grock such high minded concepts, and that's okay.
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>>64184381
Anon you may not have been around when the first game came out but they literally were using GWOT rhetoric in the ingame propoganda bits and the resource you are killing bugs for is leet speek for "oil".
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>>64182626
NTA but r*editors have literally said shit like this. Humanity is doing a heckin fascism so obviously we're the bad guys. These are the same types who think humanity is bad in Starship Troopers. To make another nerd vidya reference, these types of people would like the insurrectionists in Halo who tried to side with the covenant against Earth
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>>64184381
>clearly mocking the secular worship of science and liberalism as surrogate religions in europe
No it really isn't. Much more in common with mcarthyism
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>>64182611
Settings don't have to have good guys
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>>64183508
The melee troopers with two knives look kinda like protoss zealots at a distance
The ones from the red faction in starcraft 2 specifically, because of the red
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>>64184434
Who the fuck cares
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>>64184271
I'm pretty sure the pistol has a chamber indicator in the first as well as mag release, safety, decocker etc all of which actually get used and uses properly in animations. The AR also has some, can't remember the others. CE had really great weapon animations.
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I love the way ammo works in this game. One in the chamber, tracer rounds with the final bullets in the mag, can hear when you're low on ammo, reloading preemptively wastes ammo, your barrel doesn't always line up with your scope/laser, different ammo types with different levels of penetration, etc. It makes it endlessly satisfying and replayable. I just wish they'd overhaul shotguns entirely because they severely lack in comparison to other weapon classes.
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>>64184536
>shotguns
>severely lack
Dang and I was was almost sold on this game too
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>>64182591
Helldivers 2? What happened to Helldivers 1?
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>>64184515
Indeed. The first game had some very satisfying reloads. Reach’s weren’t bad, either.
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>>64182626
A dude in my extended gaming group ragequit the first month the game came out when he overheard me talking about how the bots were communists. We were all talking about it being space vietnam against terminators and I had just looked at some lore snippets and mentioned it, dude lost his shit. I bet he's one of those seething redditors now.
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>>64184624
Is he seething because the bots are communists, or because he's fighting communists?
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>>64184589
You can still play it, it's just old and a top down twin stick shooter.
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>>64184624
Sounds like he was one of those seething Redditors then, too. I do not understand this generation’s unabashed love for tankies while decrying the slightest application of governance as “fascism”.

Spill oil, brother.
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>>64184624
The Cyborgs were communist. The clankers? I think they just fucking hate people.
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>>64182591
It's not exactly a great gameplay tactic, but I love that such an un-simmy game gives players the option of running crew-served weapons with an assistant gunner/ammo bearer. So yeh, I approve.
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>>64184589
...it's been 10 years.
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>>64184858
It will never cease to annoy me that you need to be the one with the backpack to reload. Not only does it make you basically sacrifice your backpack unless you happen to have the same weapon, it makes zero fucking sense because which sounds easier?
>Taking recoilless rockets out of your own backpack, hope you've been doing yoga to get some mad flexibility
or
>taking rockets out of they guy you're reloading's backpack, you know, that thing that's ergonomically simpler by far
And some fags may say "oh but muh game balance", not realizing it's self balancing due to the opportunity cost of "you can't shoot your own gun when you are being reload bitch for someone else".
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>>64182710
Not just that but the fact some optics let you essentially change your zero distance/adjust for elevation. Your guy will point post sprawl when going to the ground.
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>>64184895
Huh, never occurred to me but this makes perfect sense.
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>>64184434
i don't care what redditors have literally said
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>>64184381
"Managed democracy" is very obviously a reference to the government of Vladmir Putin, which he also calls "managed democracy"
The actual policies of managed democracy are also a hodgepodge of famous autocratic policies, like how you need to fill out a form to have a kid the same way they do in China, or the public execution of dissidents, or the "freedom camps"
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>>64182591
Yes. The guns have appropriate levels of detail and autism.
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>>64184713
One of the lines on thoer propaganda broadcasts is:
>we will obliterate inequality
They are just as communist as their nefarious cyborg masters
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>>64182591
Yeah sure, why not. The only people on /k/ anymore who own guns are the /arg/ crowd who just sit around drinking eachother's cum instead of actually shooting, so yeah fuck it let's just talk about random ass vidya here.Hey is Goth Lois from Family Guy /k/ approved?
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>>64184434
If you care what reddit thinks so much why don’t you fuck off back there where you belong?
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>>64182735
>complaining about stealing from 40k and Starcraft
Point at this retard and laugh.
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>>64183423
>WoW orcs are green!
Only Fel corrupted ones.
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>>64185137
Only if you photoshop a gun in her hand, lucky you that pose is easy to do it with.
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>>64185137
>AI slop
Kill yourself faggot
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>>64182591
The AR and the shotgun are good, but the pistol sucks. It should be medium pen.

As far as the suppressed effect goes, how does it actually affect detection? I love the SMG, but idk how to take advantage of the suppressor
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>>64182735
I lived through all the big 40k lawsuits. They were sued not once. Not twice. But over 240 times since 2001. A major set of lawsuits was Alien creators suing the fuck out of GW for their many infringements.
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>>64185135
They literally mulch human bodies into slurry for unknown reasons.
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>>64184322
Clarification:
Automatons do not use human brains, that is a myth. They do however decorate themselves with human corpses.
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>>64184536
>>64184581
Shotguns were the meta pick for at least half the games life. I dunno about exactly now but they were still very solid even after nerfs.
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>>64184661
they don't hate authoritarianism, they just hate when whites do it
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>>64185559
The automatons were created by the cyborgs after they got defeated by super earth in HD1
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>>64185538
they do it because they hate democracy
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>>64185443
The pistol looks and sounds amazing thoughevermaybeit
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>>64182735
Blizzard has long since abandoned Starcraft. Apparently they killed yet another project to do Overwatch 2 or something.
The big thing they aped was Starship Troopers, not sure how that game is doing. I imagine not too well, the concept didn't sound quite as strong.
As to the topic of this thread, you can't choose your ammunition types even though there are different ammunitions, it's tied to each specific gun. Supposedly it's been datamined in files that they are considering adding it to customization, but I remain skeptical, also they won't do shit to actually include stealth gameplay despite finally releasing suppressed weapons and armor passives specifically meant for stealth.
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>>64183432
Not just with this but I feel like the internet as a whole lately has devolved into a new depth of spiteful goblin-esque contrarianism that wasn't as universally present before. Seeing more and more people wake up and dedicate all their time on the internet just being hateful little gremlins for other people's joy. I don't think people on mass just have more time to be doing this though and it's probably just a new wave of chat bots being unleashed on everything, although I have zero evidence for this. I understand people have always been contrarians especially on 4chin but lately it's reached a fever pitch that is exceptionally annoying. I'm really hoping this will let me detach from the internet forever and not be trapped in this prison anymore
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>>64184858
>>64184895
It's one of those things that's cool in concept, but the expectation that anyone should be willing to log in and essentially stop playing just to give someone else a second character is absurd if not insulting.
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>>64182591
yes
very fun, nice mechanics without being an autism simulator
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>>64186835
it's bad these days. the more time you spend offline, the happier you'll become. trust me. i used to think that limitless access to information at your fingertips would have been a major benefit to humanity, but that light faded from my eyes probably 20 years ago.
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>>64184581
The incendiary shotgun is still ridiculous against bugs because any pellet can ignite.
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>>64186771
the stealth game play's been in the game since the beginning. the only problem is the horde of non-stealth players who think that anything that moves needs to be shot.
it's a stealth is optional situation. the vast majority won't bother if they aren't forced to.

now, as for actually using stealth in game, it does take some knowledge of how the game is designed.
here's first tip and it's a shocker. THE ENEMY DOES NOT ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AT ALL TIMES! once you stop charging at them, shooting all the guns available to you, the enemy will actually be required to physically detect you before they start trying to kill you. this is especially important for keeping the heat rating down so that you're not completely swarmed by everything.
second, the HEAT SYSTEM. the game is designed to provide a near constant challenge to any player at all times. this does include when you've gone and separated from the group. this is the heat system. if you're more than a certain distance from the group (50m-100m is a guess) extra enemies will begin to spawn near your location. this will easily double or even quadruple the number of enemies on the field simply because you can't work with a team.
third, SOUND! the enemy can hear you shooting. shooting your guns tells the enemy where you are. this is pointless in most of the game, but while running stealth, if you start shooting, every enemy unit in hearing range will know where to start searching. Surprise! shooting doesn't mean they know where you are, just a basic area. Yes, I have personally done shoot and scoot and it worked.

the stealth system is there, you just don't know how to use it.
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>>64184895
It’s set up that way as an artifact from early development. You can tell from the way your third weapon clips with your backpack that the devs originally intended for you to only have one. Presumably, making weapons impossible to reload without a teammate was too awkward and so Arrowhead chose to separate the backpack and third weapon slots but didn’t get around to reworking team reloading to make sense with this change.
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>>64182591
Fuck bugs
Fuck clankers
Fuck squids
Glory to Super Earth
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>>64184434
>r*dditors said X about the game so now that is the truth of the game
r*ddit is literally controlled by trannies, dude
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>>64187381
>the only problem is the horde of non-stealth players who think that anything that moves needs to be shot.
This
>Super helldive
>down to 3 respawns
>lvl 60 engages every random patrol on the map
You can just walk right past them.
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>>64185163
When did I say WoW?
Warcraft orcs were 1 to 1 copies of GW orcs from day one
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>>64187508
I don't think most players know you can avoid patrols, they just see that it's a shooter so that obviously means you have to shoot everything, right?
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>>64182591
>capes on my ODST
No good sir, give me my backpack.
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>>64182591
odst is mid
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>>64184581
Shotguns being good is a gay fantasy.
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>>64184581
idk what you're talking about bud, if youre fighting bugs a max-modded SG-225 Breaker fucking slaps.
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>>64184581
Shotguns in HD2 are preddy gud. newest one from halo has such a tight spread at range it obliterates low tier elite enemies from range of 20+ meters
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>>64182591
Oral
Dick
Sucking
Time
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>>64182611
Every good piece of fiction about war is anti-war. If you're consuming any media about war that isn't anti-war, it's war propaganda, whether intentional or not.
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>>64187381
>anything that moves needs to be shot.
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I don't care if the ODST pistol/smg aren't meta, those are without question the coolest weapons in the entirety of Halo and I WILL use them.
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>>64190329
This, but even more unironically
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>>64189762
I think /tv/ is more your speed, homo.
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>>64190329
This, but the M90
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>>64190680
The M90 is pretty good for not being med pen, and the MA5C is ridiculously fun
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>>64190329
ODST smg made me finally try out the ballistic shield. Its pretty fun against automatons.
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>>64182735
The new burrowing spitting enemy is even called a roach and looks like a roach from SC2.
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>>64184434
Go back
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>>64187381
Don't care. I'm here to kill shit. Go have your anal sissy stealth wank alone.
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>>64191061
That's typically how I roll, three randoms to pull aggro and keep the drops on cooldown while I do the actual mission and find all the supercredits
sometimes I move into sniper range and pick off whatever is killing them at the current moment if they are hemorrhaging lives too fast
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>>64182611
And those people were instantly filtered and called retarded by even other Redditors. Nobody says this, it was just a hot topic for the first month because contrarian faggots like those on the gamingcirclejerk that sub needed an excuse to tear down people for having the audacity to have fun.
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>>64183163
>>64183952
It was a Warhammer fantasy deal and GW backer out last second because they would rather have 40k shit and did final liberation. A turn based RTT game with very goofy cutscenes.
Still does not make the othet statements less true.
Blizzard had the story and everything set in stone, missions mostly done. Chris Metzen had to remake the story in an afternoon and the two artists they had, had to remake all assets within a week.
Still will wild how Orcs and Humans was so good despite the fuck off rushed production. Back then Blizzard was basically one nervous bank clerk away from oblivion.
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>>64186327
I still run the spray&pray on every bug mission, regardless of level. No other primary weapon clears the chaff mobs better. The slugger is still very solid as well.
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>>64184581
Nah they're pretty good. Best weapons are nades as always
>Jetpack and nade user
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>>64190329
The MA5C is really good with it's medium armor pen, I keep coming back to it
>>64190734
I need to try this next
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>>64185128
You are retarded and have brain rot. By far the worst take in this entire stupid thread
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>>64183535
To be fair Helldivers aren't just regular grunts either. They are basically their universe's equivalent to ODST, which are pretty hard soldiers all things considered. SEAF troopers are the basic grunts and are total jobbers, Helldivers are basically special forces shock troopers in comparison
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>>64182611
>>64182902
>>64182735
There's an armor passive in the game called Democracy Protects. When taking lethal damage, you have a 50% chance to just not die. There's no cooldown and no exceptions.

You are not meant to take the setting seriously.

But regarding the details of weapon function, it's pretty damn accurate as >>64182710 says.

Regarding the gameplay, I started playing pretty much right after Malevelon Creek and I have everything unlocked and around 750 hours at this point. It's extremely fun. Unfortunately the developers are prioritizing content over bug fixes and performance, and this has led to some decreases in performance that lowers enemy numbers, and that has made the top difficulty not as hard as it used to be. But this is honestly a pretty minor gripe. The game plays very fluidly if you have a have decent computer, and it is compatible with mods if you want to change things.

If you do pick up the game, the community is awesome. Play on whatever difficulty you want and know that even on the highest difficulty there's no real meta loadout, there's just a lot of stuff that works great. Be sure to ask the veteran divers to pick up samples for you if you're not maxed out. Pretty much everybody over level 100 has all the ship upgrades unlocked and starts ignoring the sample pickups, though they will pick them up if you just ask.
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>>64184536
>can hear when you're low on ammo
The actual fuck does this come from because I've seen this in a few games at this point I've never even heard of a gun that does this IRL. Sure as shit doesn't happen to any of my guns
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>>64190734
The shield is also good for the bugs. One little bug and I had sparring practice for 30 seconds before I got bored. Although last night I was having fun wearing the recon armor and had the jump pack and was larping as like a discount Spartan..so I guess like a MkV; we need super soldiers, but man we are on a tight budget.

Also try the shotgun with the siege ready armor. The reload speed is insane.
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>>64184020
>adults don't play video games
I gotta ask, how old are you?
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>>64190329
I'm incredibly disappointed there was no Spartan Laser or SPNKR call in.
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>>64192876
Bro, your Recoiless Rifle?
Bro, your Quasar Lasar?
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>>64192953
I know equivalent stuff already exists in game, but they are iconic Halo weapons
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>>64192953
Autocannon is love, autocannon is life.
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>>64192690
Old enough to only engage in mature hobbies for mature people such as himself.
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>>64192511
It would be nice to see SEAF some more, but god are they a fucking liability, not just to you but themselves.
Behind bugfixing and optimizing the game, I hope Arrowhead puts more time into their AI. If they didn't throw grenades about like candy and ignore crossfiring, and if they offered us a slightly more in depth ability to command them, it'd be fun to be able to order them to help hold objectives (or a completely pointless position as a distraction). Maybe have them prioritize the lower tier enemies when divers are near to help thin the horde.
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>>64192511
This is true, but you're also more FACs with a deathwish than anything else. There's a reason 'your' Superdestroyer has a whole lot of new Helldivers at the ready.
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>>64192511
We literally see the entire helldivers training program, the joke is that they go from civilian to their first firefight within fifteen minutes.
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>>64196832
Helldivers are picked from SEAF, so they at least have basic training plus the complex, infallible Helldiver training course
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>>64182611
>didn't read the terms and conditions in the tutorial
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>>64196832
>>64196840
we've seen the helldiver training, and we've seen the SEAF in action. hell, we've seen the SEAF in action next to us. Something's missing; Helldivers are clearly more effective than an SEAF soldier with artillery clearance.
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>>64182591
I really like this game because it does away with the mythos surrounding guns in a lot of pop culture for normalfags. The guns work pretty much how they should and how one should reasonably expect them to without too much video gamey arbitration. One example being the smaller, accurate crosshair that sways with your movement but still allows you to reasonably hit things if you aim well. It does many of these things while avoiding dipping into milsim autism territory which is very commendable.
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>>64185137
>is Goth Lois from Family Guy /k/ approved?
yes
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>>64182735
You’re a moron. 40k ripped everything from starship troopers and is probably the least original ip you could have mentioned. There are no original ideas anymore and helldivers 2 makes up for it with its gameplay, I don’t want my mindless third person horde shooters to be “inventive” or any other buzzword you vomited in your dumb comment.
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>>64198867
This. Metal gear was all copied from American 80s action movies. Steal the best shit make great shit and its all gravy we all win.



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