Admit it, come boog/shtf we're probably getting clapped by a $300 PSA rifle.
>>64188480*biological weaponsits not like they just magically disappear during a collapse
>>64188480Most people wouldn't die from violence. They'd just run out of food and water when the aid convoys stop rolling and die on the side of the interstate after walking for days.
>>64188480There's a lot of different risk factors, but some desperate broke person with a $300 PSA is definitely one of them.
What's the accuracy lottery like with the basement bargain PSAs? I have a ruger built that does 1 and under @100yd with OTMs.
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>>64188480>we'reWhat's this we bullshit?
>>64188480Not really. Same reason T-72s got smoked by Abrams in Iraq; quality is quality.
>>6418848099% of PSA owner don't even shoot their guns.
>>64188700>99% of PSA owner don't even shoot their guns.This only means they will have ammo and you will die.
>>64188691>not even prettyUgh. Would NOT.
>>64188480You think that of me?No, mine is the ass that claps.
Depends where you're atBoog starts with America's fracturing and if you're like me on the west coast that likely means an organized Mexican presence with ancient claims to the land, possibly Chinese presence too. Another American with a PSA shitrod is the last of my worries
If we're ever to a point where our small arms actually matter, something has gone horribly horribly wrong.
>>64188746Yeah I'm real worried about the chink optics they never zeroed and the gen 2 pmags they'll over-insert and have no idea how to clear kek. Even FSP uppers from PSA come horribly canted so even their backup irons will be a mile off. The real concern is Bubba and his granpappy's 30-06 hunting rifle
>>64188696Now those same Abrams are getting acked by cheap drones. Quantity > Quality
>>64188941>The real concern is BubbaI thought it was a 17yo with an HR Topper 20ga?
>>64188691kek. Poast, the .gif related. Its all perfect.
>>64188480There's a long, long list of things that will likely kill me before a shootout and even then the odd of it being a PSA shitrod are slim to none>>64188974I hope next time you go to start your car the battery is flat and nobody is willing to give you a jump
>>64188480your chances of getting clapped by pic related are significantly higher.
Its always a topkek how absolutely mad PSA makes anons. >but they are badI have a BCM Recce 16 upper on a PSA lower that was so cheap I cant even remember the price ($150? $250? lmao). If I drop you, then under Federal Law you died to a PSA.
>>64188480I have 300 weaponized drones and solar charging capabilities, no one can fucking touch me or anything I deem mine.
>>64188975>20gaMaybe for city plebs but they might have a week tops before it becomes a barren hellscape. Rural chads have distance and long sight lines to their advantage and yes, fuck off we are full, and yes, that section of dirt you stepped on DID give way until you heard a tactile "click".
My plan for shtf is do a Vietnam war LARP until someone blows me away in ambush while I'm on a VC patrol/sweep.
>>64188993>car the battery is flat>not car battery is deadWhat country are you even from? Jolly ol' England?
>>64189042Watch 'Tour of Duty', bro. Literally, no cgi, live blanks, Hollywood class explosions and filmed in Hawaii
>>64189142Seconding this 'Tour of Duty' is great
>>64189134India but I am h1b in USA
>>64188939Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of SHTF...
>>64189188The common to US vernacular would be dead battery, not flat. Easy profile.
>>64189005this is the way to do it these days. I think if you're gonna build your AR, it's better to go all Aero then slap a Criterion barrel in it. But all my lowers have been and will continue to be PSA because I'm a cheap bastard and you can't convince me it makes a real difference. Uppers, on the other hand
>>64189182Yeah, Zev Braun out did himself. Still a hyper senstive, hot button topic during it's original airing, it was handled with respect and finesse. Honestly, the production design (and casting) for the street and bar scenes was spot on.
>>64189134Texan, but I grew up watching Top Gear and a bunch of other British and Australian shows so I use a lot of Britsh vernacular. For example I'll use the normal pronunciation of aluminum when talking about most things unless it's a car part, then I use the British pronunciation. Plus flat batt is more fun to say than dead batt
>>64188480Fuck yamudda
>>64189220It's not common but it would indicate either an older person of some specific USA regions or a person who was around them and occasionally speaks old style.Guarantee more than 1 person on this board has heard "it's gone flat" in reference to battery voltage, in the USA.
>>64188670I guess it's true PSA owners have never shot a gun.
>>64188480>Bubba stands over your bullet-riddled body>Spits>Tobacco juice running down his chin>"Hehehe, just as good"
>>64188588My vote is most die of dehydration in the first month, every death after is by exposure. We're so fat as a society they'll survive for no joke- months without food. Water system going off will kill many in the cities without access to water. Once the first winter comes with no heating or those in search of food/water with no appreciation for how cold you become after getting wet will become the majority of deaths. It's mildly concerning how many people in modern society don't know how to survive without society. >>64189002Truly the worst way to die is from the infection of a rusted to shit .25 auto.>Jamal approaches you to trade>DeShauwn jumps you from behind>pulls a .25 auto at point blank range>shoots you in the leg>after the first shot the .25 jammed >you easily kill your assailants> the next 3 weeks you slowly succumb to sepsis.
>>64188588you can go on little food for a long time, water not so much, but minor injuries and diseases without basic medical care causes more fatalities than conflict. Malaria, typhus, dysentery/dehydration.
>>64188480Jokes on you I'm going to die to a .45-70 BFR when I put it in my mouth and blow my head off because I have no family and no reason to want to survive a complete societal/economic/environmental collapse.
>>64189188How about you go the fuck back
>>64191487>babby's first recessionUse a Hi-Point carbine for extra lulz
>>64188480yeah there's definitely diminishing returns on a $2000 AR-15 vs a $600 one. but it's not a zero-sum game, it's all about stacking the odds in your favor for a slight advantage. a clearer optic with higher magnification than a red dot? potentially lets you identify a hostile raider at a further distance and engage them because they can hit you. a better made and more reliable gun? might just stop an unlucky jam at a critical moment. free float handguard? maybe your shot will actually hit the heart or brain instead of missing it by an inch. if you are preparing for a life-and-death situation, why would you want the odds in your favor as much as possible for a couple hundred more bucks?
>>64188939And the people that choose to use small arms are the ones that get killed off first. There is historical precedent for every SHTF scenario and in none of the examples can you find a situation where isolated individuals that indiscriminately murder "in self defense" reign supreme
>>64189006Lie.
>>64189761>GuaranteeCitation required.
>>64191487>I put it in my mouthI doubt you mean a BFR you don't even have, but I know what you do mean.
>>64191698If you're an idiot who is trying to mad max vs the world, sure.But a community that has each other's backs is the strongest play whether you're holing up with resources or traveling and taking what you want, and there is no single guy with a fancy gun more dangerous than a dozen guys with a dozen jusasgood guns.
>>64191817>there is no single guy with a fancy gun more dangerous than a dozen guys with a dozen jusasgood guns.Basically, every western movie ever, where the passive farmers and ranchers unite against the lawless ruffians or gunslinger.
>shtf>be me>something so utterly destructive happens that it more than mildly inconveniences your average floridian>to restore order to insure universal access to polar cups>one of our many many nutter sheriffs begins to "deputize" its more "responsible" citizens>i sign up with a big x and an even bigger grin>start getting really pissed when it seems every other corpse i loot has a psa shitrod>loot liquor store>get bourbon>mix into a 44 oz polar cup>feel better
Level IV plates are cheap af on RMABe less poor or die faster
Statistically it would be a government contract rifle, the US government's armed abilities are pretty big. Increase that chance if you get warlord syndrome and National Guard/Police form into a gang around some senior officer.
>>641886963 moa rifle in capable hands is better than submoa rifle in nevershoots hands.
>>64189142>>64189182>>64189237Can't find it streamable anywhere
>>64192081>streamableIt free to air every week, zoomer.https://www.handitv.com/shows/tour-of-duty
>>64192003I get hard thinking about all the le colt 6920s and natty girl m4s I'm going to collect if a shitstorm ever happens.
>>64188480Random poors are more of a danger to themselves than anyone else.What's most telling that they're all niggers is they think the boog is "me vs everyone who made mean comments online" and not "us vs the government"
>>64192084I'm 35, I just hate computers and never learned them very well
>>64192159FTA is just an antenna. You can search "rabbit ears" and never pay for tv again. Admittedl,80% of your programming will be: spanish/shopping/religious/religous in spanish and crap. You will get 3 to 4 good channels: Laff, H& I, Comet, Movies!, maybe a couple others. It's just in the air... unless you're rural.
>>64192115>"us vs the government"Implying you have nukes and F16s
>>64192254The Vietcong didn't. The afghans neither. Yet we spun our wheels in the mud not really actually getting anywhere
>>64192283>2 wars without a frontYeah. What do you expect?
gunfights won't happen in real life like they do in the movies, they're very rare because its astronomically risky for all parties involvedif someone targets you, you're probably already going to be dead, because all they need to do is follow you and shoot you in the back of the head with your guard down or stab you in your sleepthats the way its always been
Not just any PSA, but an 11.5" SBR
>>64192288I'm saying it'd be the same thing here
>>64192290Just like muh vidya gaymes!
>>64192283>The Vietcong didn'tThis meme needs to die a painful fucking death. The VC were damn near completely useless during the war and yet everyone wants to act like they were the primary fighting force of North Vietnam and not the fucking North Vietnamese Army. Yeah the VC were just dudes in sandals, they weren't the ones that caused such high phantom losses or had such an advanced SAM network it caused us to develop SEAD/ DEAD, the Wild Weasels, and the F117 just so we would never get smacked so hard again. The sooner popular culture can accept Vietnam was a conventional war with the VC, Laos, and Cambodia being sideshows the sooner the collective IQ will raise a few points
>>64188512I think the preferred term is people of color and undocumented migrants
>>64192359but thats not what happens in video games you lard ass
>>64192554>undocumentedErm, that term is a little problematic, xir
>>64188941That was producing a thousand plus casualties a day over in Ukraine. Ali baba weapon lights and sights are more battle tested then any new stuff on the market.
>>64188512People tend to undersell how much plague fucked up the Roman Empire as it was collapsing. You know what stopped most of the plagues in the Eastern Roman Empire after the time of Justinian? It's hard for plague to spread when every city that isn't named Constantinople is a depopulated post-apocalyptic shithole and trade movements have largely collapsed because who's buying when they're all dead?Same rules apply today. In a theoretical collapse situation pandemic isn't on the table. Lower population density combined with more sedentary populations.
>>64193244>It's hard for plague to spread when every city that isn't named Constantinople is a depopulated post-apocalyptic shitholeThe upside is with 1/3 less population people are automatically ealthier and this sets the stage for the move from The Dark Ages to The Enlightenment and Renaissance. >less peeps>mo benjamins
>>64192081>Can't find it streamable anywhere>>64192250>FTAJust that easy.
>>64188480PSA owners (fat) will get clapped by their overburdened hearts
>>641920091 MOA guns in a capable pair of hands is best of all. Be him.
In America today, spending more than $700 on your handgun or more than $1,000 on your semiautomatic rifle (<--rig incl. optics/slopgear) is pointless.>>64192290>gunfights won't happen in real lifeNot only this, but no one in SHTF or otherwise ought be seeking them out.Whole point of arming up, getting proficient w/ firearms needs to be : *avoid* gunfights>>64188588>Most people wouldn't die from violencechecked, likely not in total WROL / SHTF.Anyway as said above it's not going to be 'masses of gun battles'Get proficient with an economical effective "rig" of firearms, rifles first. Probably good to have a pair of go-to rifles, bolt action and semiauto, plus one or two handguns. Whatever chamberings, just be fucking comfortable and proficient with them and have plenty of ammunition>>64188700>don't even shoot their gunschecked,Wrong.PSAs btfo the entire /hg/ /arg/ content ever posted to /k/>>64188939>ever to a point where our small arms actually matterMost people in the incoming global collapse of the debt market are going to die en masse in urban population centers, armed w/ firearms or not. They'll starve or dehydrate, or kill each other off with blunt-sharp instruments, fists, or their own excrement within a few weeks.
>>64194665>the incoming global collapse of the debt markeCitation required.
>>64195227>muh citationGo to the other boards (for the answer)And it's beyond (You)r pay grade anyway, won't even matter by the time it smacks (You) in the teethbuckle up
>>64191737Oh but I do.
>>64188691He's a foreignoid shill who's so used to using "we" and "us" for everything that it's leaking into everything he says. I wouldn't be surprised if he refers to himself as we/us in his daily life, lel.
>>64191487if you value your life so little, why wait?is any amount of struggle that scary to you?
>>64197119My desire not to live in a post apocalyptic/completely ecologically devestated/return to tribalism where even clean water is hard to find/open shooting civil war that will completely destroy modern society and reduce the US to third world status for generations is somewhat reasonable considering I'm 40 with no wife or children to protect. I've spent twenty years struggling, sacrificing, and breaking my back to get where I am. I'd be more useful in that kind of situation than you, but I've no wish to live in it.
>>64197231I promise that when I find your rotting corpse still holding your revolver that I'll leave a couple of bottlecaps if you put the ammo nearby.
>>64188670I used to have one that was extremely accurate, but the gas hole in the barrel started to erode before 1000 rounds. They're plenty accurate that is until they transform into suprise grenades
you boog/shtf fags crack me up with your wet dreams about civil war. america is israel's cash cow. the only war that would ever not be profitable is another american civil war.
>>64199712So what happened when the gas hole eroded?
>>64188480Many people in war unfortunately die from shidding themselves to deathmake sure to practice proper hygiene and cooking safety, my friends
>>64190331>It's mildly concerning how many people in modern society don't know how to survive without societyMost of the retards waddling around out there can barely figure out how to survive life on tutorial mode
>>64188480You will get clapped by people who organize into functioning social groups, most likely remnants of army units or local government.
>>64200430They just start to get overgassed requiring either a heavier buffer or new barrel
>>64191623To justify a bad purchase of the cheapest option while also never taking it to shoot or training with it
>>64192254When tf would the govt nuke the US in any scenario, quit being retarded
>>64188480>Admit it, come boog/shtf we're probably getting clapped by a $300 PSA rifle.No, but it's not because the rifle or the Romeo 5 on top of it isn't capable. It's because whoever buys that PSA has never zeroed their shit, and can barely operate the gun.You should be a lot more afraid of boomers with scoped guns that go hunting every year. They know their area and they either have a lot to lose, or nothing to lose.
>>64201113>No, but it's not because the rifle or the Romeo 5 on top of it isn't capable. It's because whoever buys that PSA has never zeroed their shit, and can barely operate the gun.My first rifle was from PSA and i slapped a Romeo 5 on it. You described me spookily. However, I zeroed my rifle immediately and put ~3k rounds through it before moving up to a BCM+AERO build. Y'all clowns be making a lot of assumptions.
>>64201113Idk what it is but everyone I know with a PSA rifle doesn’t shoot and has like the minimum amount of ammo possible. Like a couple of 20 round boxes and the rifle just sits under the bed forever>>64201121Theres always exceptions but I have noticed it a lot
>>64201123>PSA users are poor and cant just splerg on bi-weekly range trips More on these shocking revelations at 11.
