Why havent they recovered it for some propaganda museum?
>>64195748it's ugly as sin
>>64195748Pretty coolReminds me of Kenshireal "ruins of a better time long gone by" vibes
>Warspite scrapped>Russia destroyed all its tanks stock for nothing,, and made it impossible for me to visit their tank museum>America kiling of the enterprise>Ark royal scrappedI just hope the IOWA is safe, same for the A-10 atleast keep a few in a musuem for gods sake
>>64195752Filtered
>>64195748Wtf is that
and this one
i gotta give them to the russians, when it comes to dystopian brutalism they're second to none.
>>64195748>>64195772why are these so unsettling to look at
That's good, they would be pressed into service by now. Let them sit in the wild.
>>64195763All four Iowa class are museum ships.
>>64195773it comes with the territory when you're a brutal dystopian society
>>64195748Because that's expensive with no profit. It's just scrap metal with wings.
>>64195832tourism, tickets and propaganda purposes
>>64195748why do they put those retarded tubes on everything? lmao
>>64195832>expensiveif that is expensive then how expensive is spending increasing amounts of your state budget on things that blow up?
>>64195748What's crazy to me is that no one scrapped it for profit considering how corrupt Russia is. I'm surprised they even have museums full of equipment that could be sold off.
>>64195748>>64195772What are these
>>64195748Because they are poor and have no values.
>>64196017Turboprop that could into space on a rocket booster and then land on its own. The engines up top open up on re-entry, and then the 4 that are open, open up in atmosphere for stage two. Solar panels on "wings" and AESA radar on the back there + comms. Gotta give it to the commies, only space plan to survive re-entry and also be able to land on water.
You need money for that and they're broke. It's the same reason post-WWII Britain basically committed the historic preservation equivalent of war crimes by failing to preserve a single gun capital ship.
>>64195748They have, if you go to Google maps and look up its location it's now on land and the "Park Patriot Derbent" is basically being built around it.
>>64196017Planes that are boats built to operate on seas that barely get waves.
>>64196017https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspian_Sea_Monsterhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartini_Beriev_VVA-14
>>64195887they are dildos for ya mudda
>>64195778Because you know that at one point in time, this strange behemoth managed to escape the pull of gravity and leave the Earth's surface by a few meters at 150mph
>>64195763>I just hope the IOWA is safe>>64195814This anon is right, even the New Jersey was just put in dry dock for repair/restoration. Those old girls will continue to endure, inshallah.
>>64196017ekranoplans. plane/hovercraft hybrid that uses ground effect which is that flying near ground is super efficient compared to flying in air. except, you need to have a completely flat surface that is large enough to utilize the concept. but obviously, if a mindbogglingly retarded idea exists, in this case weaponizing it with tons of jet engines and missiles to deploy in caspian sea, the communists will inevitably try it out. obviously, because it was completely impractical in every way, it was eventually abandoned, which in russia means stuffing it somewhere and letting it rot. the caspain sea monster is even bigger and more retarded than the later ones crashed and sunk so it was never recovered.
>>64195763>same for the A-10 atleast keep a few in a musuemThere are some, don't worry.
>>64195762The Soviet Union was still a complete shithole.
Living in Russia is like 40k but gayer and worse somehow
>>64196332soulful
>>64196364unless you have to live in these conditions
>>64196332>>64196364>>64196696I'll never understand why people pretend that soviet shit has soul. It's the most soulless shit imaginable.
>>64196709It's the indomitable human spirit kind of soulful.
It wouldn't be much better because Russian aviation museums just leave their planes to rot out in the elements anyways
>>64196724>brutalism>indomitable human spiritPick one.
>>64196724it really isn't, anon, trust met. lived through commie rule
>>64196724Once again, it's the opposite. It's defined by subhumans who are utterly corrupt and incompetent, and ruin everything they touch. There's no group of people more broken and submissive than those faggots, and they just keep wallowing in their misery.
>>64195772That got majorly fucked up in transit. It's supposed to have wings and stuff.
>>64196724that "human spirit soulfulness" isn't coming from the shitty, minimalist and often times corner cut soviet architecture anon, it comes from the people trying to carve out a meaningful life while being surrounded by it.Even then it's undercut by the fact that humans made this retarded system and setting; one so utterly fucked that undoing it will take decades to years, depending on the country.There's a reason why there are so many emigres from the former eastern block. Most everything from the soviet times are, in the best case, pretty flawed, and in the worse cases completely fucked, to the point where it's preferable to many to just leave and start over in a different country.It's why the people who're most adamant about the Warsaw Pact (and modern Russia) actually being great to live in are usually very young expats who barely lived there, the children of expats who never lived there, or retarded leftists who aren't even related to anyone from the motherland.
>>64197337>decades to yearsdecades to centuries, my fuckupTo add a point I forgot to include there certainly is a nostalgia for people who lived that shit, but nostalgia is not a wholly positive or negative thing in life. Just a recollection of different times.
>>64195770An Ekranoplan/Ground Effect Vehicle. Russia had a few prototype designs. They build a dense layer of air between the aircraft and the water at altitudes lower than or equal to their wingspan, allowing them to carry a lot of weight at high speeds - basically making them something with most of the speed of an aircraft and the carrying capacity of a small ship. They're a really cool idea, that has severe problems with actually using them>>64195748Russia has had approximately no money since October of 1917, and it would cost a shitload to move the remains of the vehicle to the specially built museum you would need to house it.
>>64195748This is the part where someone needs to mention the current economic situation that Russia finds itself in.The Western plan is betting on Russia running out of money, the Russian plan is betting on Ukraine running out of men.Russia doesn't have the funds to restore a museum piece and they likely won't for a long time.
>>64197360All I can think about with that image is just how funny it would be to see it crash into a small or mid-sized wave.
>>64195748>Why havent they recovered it for some propaganda museum?Snowmalis is not able to"On 31 July 2020, the completed MD-160 Lun-class ekranoplan was towed out of the naval base in Kaspiysk, with the intention of being eventually put on public display in Derbent, Dagestan, at the planned Patriot Park, a combination museum and theme park that will display Soviet and Russian militaryHowever, during the tow the ekranoplan became stuck just offshore of a sandy beach, short of the intended destination.In December 2020 a successful recovery operation resulted in the ekranoplan being hauled out of the water, nose-first, with the tail ending up about 20–30 m (65–100 ft) from the sea, as seen from satellite imagery. The ekranoplan was towed ashore on 30 December 2021."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lun-class_ekranoplan..............
>>64197778Why the fuck is Russia so bad at everything?
>>64196364>NorilskI remember watching some trekker youtuber doing a video on that and being surprised how nice it looked nowadays... until the guy said he could taste the air and started wondering how much that trip would shorten is life.
>>64195748They're literally orcs. They don't care about anything but their daily slop.
>>64196696>...It's safer here.
>>64197788This is the cost of lies. You can't twist reality that hard and not expect the reality to fight back.
>>64195748>A small wave touches the craft>It fucking dies
>>64196709you obviously don't understand the mysterious russian soul
>>64197808God I remember going on google maps to look at the "big" Russian air museums, seeing this shit and being dismayed. Even the smallest, most rinky-dink US air museums keep most shit indoors- hell our BONEYARD aircraft are in better fucking condition. Could they never even bother to put up some simple shelters?
>>64196011Given how dependent upon raw material extraction Russia is, I wouldn't be surprised if there's no profit in scrapping something like this compared to just producing steel/aluminum in the normal way
>>64196238Where is this braphog located at?
>>64197927McMinnville, Evergreen Air Museum. They built a second building aside from the one the Hughes H-4 is in.
>>64197874>Could they never even bother to put up some simple shelters?No, this is Russia after all. Just that they can SAY that they have an aerospace museum displaying unicorn Soviet wonders is mission accomplished. Who cares about the rest, checkmate West!
>>64197898I don't know if they exist anymore, but there used to be a bunch of Mig-23 middle fuselage sections left over from scrapping. Since the main landing gear and the wing pivot both connect at roughly the same section of the fuselage, that part was so fucking overbuilt that it was uneconomic in man-hours to cut them apart piece by piece.
MiG-23 is still in service though.
>>64197805>Trekker youtuberVaga bond. Used to watch his videos until he pivoted the channel towards expat content in SEA shitholes (boring and overdone)
>>64197960Yeah, in North Korea and maybe two other third-world countries.
>>64197874Screw some mi-8's and mig-21's but leaving one of one prototype rotting away is beyond me
>>64198048Those are all one on ones. Looking around the base you'll find, among other things, the Mig-1.44, a Buran (can't see it now, might have been moved), Tu-144's, various Flanker derivatives, including what looks like the T-10 prototype, even a Su-57 is rotting there, though that might just be one of the mock-ups. The sand camo one in the bottom left of your pic for example looks like what's left of Su-35 prototype no. 901. Maybe it's the earlier no. 709, but it doesn't seem to have the canards.
>>64198048god the Su-47 fucking hurts to see
>>64197934Nice, do they still have the 747 water slide?
>>64196709It's funny because if you look at western architectural and cultural phenomena from the same time period it's even more soulless. You're just comparing soviet shit to things 50+ years older unfairly.
>>64195748shit looks like the first thing you build in kerbal space program
>>64198186ye, the waterpark is still there too
>>64197430Just imagine it trying to turn in any meaningful way once it had gotten started.
>>64196709soulless shit = sovl
>>64196238Man, it does look old. From another time.
>>64197344>>64197337Atom RPG really gave me that Soviet Nostalgia feeling. I mean so does STALKER. I kind of feel like that before the war, there was some nostalgia for the CCCP. But nowadays especially among Ukrainians, its much rarer. Havent seen it in recent art.
>>64197850>the mysterious russian soul>Self hatred redirected against everyone and everything else>Average blood-alcohol level of 350mg/100ml (just below the lethal dose)>Butthurt 'Kangz we wuz' tier revisionist narratives to keep the suicide rate just below the point where it would cripple everything>Casual, meaningless, violence is a core, and irreducible, part of your culture>Your boss is a thief, your subordinates are thieves, you're a thief, everyone's stealing everything foreverDid I miss anything out there Anon?
>>64196028if it had any space capability there would be remnants of heat shielding tiling on them
Don't forget what they let happen to the Buran
>>64197874>Could they never even bother to put up some simple shelters?they can not even do it to their unreplaceable strategic bombers and utility airframes they are aggressively using in their war of imperialist conquest trying to restore they lost empire(s) do you really think they give a shit about some old hardware they cant use to bomb random apartment buildings? Vatniks are more akin to an aggressive cancer that turns everything to shit it touches
>>64199453>Possession of CP is legal, because there's no public pressure to ban it ever In every other country banning child pornography was the easiest political point that was already scored decades ago, in Russia it's "why bother", because nobody cares. In fact, it's a good side-hustle! Family business!
>>64195763The Yorktown class Enterprise being scrapped is still the worst thing the US navy did post war
>>64195832https://aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/mig23/pics09.shtml
>>64197808this one seems ok
>>64199672See pic: >>64197941They're rotted corpses.
>>64199629All you can say is it was a different time. When first offered to NY for display in '46 it was too soon after the war and there was no appetite for it so they couldn't get an organization together to care for her. That offer was suspended in '49 and she spent 9 more years in limbo before being sold to a scrapper in '58. By that time it was the Jet Age and everything was about the future so no one was really interested in some old ship that most wanted to put behind them. Honestly, the Navy went above and beyond here with over a decade worth of storage considering it isn't the Navy's job to keep old ships around that will never in any way be used again. Enterprise would never have been considered for re-activation with a thousand Essexes littering the landscape. Hell, the only reason we have the Texas is due to an appeal to state pride rather than anything to do with the ship itself. Not many states where that would have worked.
