Ok I know these two were /k/ommandos. YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO TAKE THE 'BUILD IMMUNITY TO BULLETS' MEME SERIOUSLY GUYS, GAHhttps://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/crime/2025/08/29/529791/houston-area-man-charged-with-murder-after-friends-took-turns-shooting-each-other-sheriff-says/>“Hard to believe two, so-called friends, would take turns shooting at each other wearing a kevlar helmet, inside a house in a residential neighborhood, while using a rifle,” Gonzalez wrote in his post.
Ok, that puts /k/ officially on the number one dumbest board spot.
>>64196919look again nerd, the meme watermark is clearly from ebaumsworld
if you're the one that dies playing that game, are you the winner, or the loser? like in one sense you won because you took the most hits. otherwise how do you determine the win condition, if you declare "I won't take another shot to the noggin" that wouldn't work out for winning because you could win after the first round. The rules confuse me.
MAO
>>64196948the real prize was the friends they made along the way
Yes, but did they try a metal bowl first?
Just good ol boys having some fun.
>>64196917YAWN, wake me up when there's a body.
>Be Bong>Come to America>Get shot
>>64196999>go back to Bongland>get stabbed>visit France>get mugged>visit Germany>get raped
>>64196998that's the phonebook one right
>>64197010this needs to become a marathonwhoever accumulates the most collective rapes/stabbings/muggings wins
>>64196998booba
>>64196917overzealous prosecutor is gonna loose the case, that's criminal negligence or manslaughter at worst
>>64197181depends if he's the one that suggested doing it.
>>64196917>>64196984I really can't tell which of these two are dumber
>>64197019yeah, based retard gave us the ballistic data that a phonebook is not enough to stop .50 African Eliminator>doing it with a gold Deagle was pretty fuckin based though>>64197090yeah but like...really?
>>64197429>>64197090>>64196998Would
>>64196917>take turns shooting at each other wearing a kevlar helmet>while using a rifleYeah they were /k/omandos for sure, RIP you glorious retard.
>>64197466indoors, too
>>64197181>second-degree murder is intentional but unplanned or due to extreme recklessness>extreme recklessnessMurder 2 will stick.
>>64197477Yep, so the prosecution will offer a plea deal that drops the charge to manslaughter (which always sounded way more brutal than murder desu)
>>64197490a man's laughter isn't always brutal
>>64197490>which always sounded way more brutal than murderyeah, I never understood that.
>>64197490>>64197495Agreed, as a kid I though manslaughter was when they cut people up like a sicko and murder was just a normal killing.
Only 30 minutes from where I live, kek.
>>64197490>>64197495>>64197509It's just the Anglo-Saxon equivalent of the French/Latin 'homicide'. Both words consist of "man" + "to kill/cut down"
I recall some story about eastern europeans who didn't have access to airsoft for training so they used proper air rifles instead ow
>>64197477>Murder 2 will stick.No, it won't. Per the article these retards were literally taking turns shooting each other in the head; if the state was confident that there was any intent at all they'd be going for first-degree murder and it would be a slam dunk. They're charging murder two in the hope that the defense will settle for a manslaughter sentence because that gives them more leverage than starting from manslaughter and settling for some pissant criminal negligence charge.
>>64196917It's manslaughter at worst if everyone consented.
>>64198396Explain how shooting each other in the head with a rifle while sitting in a residential house isn't "extreme recklessness" and find me a jury that will agree.
>>64198441it does seem to be a lack of reck
>>64196917Well they did have a helmet and followed the first rule of gun safety>have fun
>>64196917>trusting a bong with a gunLOL
>>64197429IIRC his trial run with a thick book worked, but his real run was done with 2 thinner books put together to approximate the same thickness- and learned why laminate armor is inferior to single plate.
>>64198531Dr. Whipple approves
>>64197181Manslaughter is a type of homicide. Homicide is just an unlawful killing.
>>64198407Brilliant insight, Counselor. I love when anons talk about the law. There are such amusing ideas about how it works.t. Attorney
>>64198646how would you get out of a conviction in this case if this dude was your client?would you go the "my client is a retard" route?
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/crime/2025/08/27/529622/houston-gun-store-co-owner-accused-of-using-ai-to-create-fake-pornographic-images-of-an-influencerFrom the same website. Co-owner of HTX Tactical charged with publishing deep-fake porn of an influencer. I've been to that store before, nothing but blinged out mall ninja tacticool ARs.
>>64198635Wrong, homicide is just the act of one person killing another. Homicide can be justified if it's in self defense, for example. Whoever taught you law needs to be castrated.
>>64198441>Explain how shooting each other in the head with a rifle while sitting in a residential house isn't "extreme recklessness" and find me a jury that will agree.Because second degree murder in Texas requires lethal intent and per the story they were not only wearing helmets but taking turns shooting each other. What fucking judge - or jury - is going to buy "okay, so the accused ALSO got shot in the head by the deceased but that doesn't mean that he wasn't trying to kill his friend when it was his turn to hold the gun"? There's also depraved heart murder, which doesn't require intent to kill, but still requires gross disregard for the potential of bodily harm or death. Think of it this way: if Joe Jones is looking at his phone in his shiny new F-350 and accidentally flattens his neighbor Bob Smith while backing out of the driveway, that's not murder. Joe Jones had no intent to harm Bob Smith, much less kill him. If Joe Jones - intentionally but without lethal intent - runs over Bob Smith with that same F-350 and Bob Smith dies then regardless of the lack of lethal intent, Joe Jones is going to be charged with murder because intentionally flattening someone with a truck shows a wanton indifference to the risk of death or grievous bodily harm and as far as the law is concerned that's as good as intent.The gold standard precedent for this kind of thing (Commonwealth v. Malone) is actually also about retards shooting each other with guns but the thing that makes all of the difference in this case is the helmets and the reciprocity. "I didn't think he was going to die because he shot me in the head first and I was fine" completely dismantles the viability of charging this as murder, IMO.
>>64197429C O I N S L O TOINSLOT
>>64198646Must be hard knowing that regular people would hunt you down and torture you to death if offered even a 50% chance of getting away with it.
>>64198781Interesting, didn't know murder was defined by each state but as Texas first-degree includes "or causing death during the commission of another felony" I have to assume intentionally discharging a rifle inside a residential house is a felony.
>>64198844>I have to assume intentionally discharging a rifle inside a residential house is a felony.Lolno. Misdemeanor.
>>64198781It reads to me more like the claim is that they had planned to take turns. If I had to guess this was the first "turn" and then the guy shooting immediately learned that helmets don't really offer protection against 1 yard rifle impacts, and the guy getting shot didn't get an opportunity to have a go for obvious reasons. This might be where the murder charge comes from, since it might be a flimsy excuse that they have reason to doubt.
it was Colonel Mustard with the candlestick in the library
>>64198646Ok. Thanks for how you feel.It's Manslaughter at worst if everyone consented.
>>64197010Funny part is that you are still more likely to get stabbed, mugged and raped in the US than any of the named countries.
/k/ - Laws and Legislatures
the only thing that could make it worse is if alcohol *wasn't* involved
>Not building up immunity with lower calibres firstFucking newfags
>>64197429She kinda looks like anne frank bros..
>>64197069>this needs to become a marathon>whoever accumulates the most collective rapes/stabbings/muggings winsRussians would dominate.I met a Russian chick on holiday in Vietnam who'd had everything done to her, she was kind of proud of the things she'd survived.
>>64197399Well only one of them left a fucking body, does that help?
>>64198396>>64197181this isn't even the first case, there's clear common law precedent that intentionally doing stupid shit that you know might get someone killed e.g. playing Russian roulette fits the mens rea for murderyou only get downgraded to manslaughter if the court thinks it's reasonable that you were too stupid to realise that you might kill that guy. which they will say is completely out of the question when it comes to using killing devices on each other.and if you say that "reasonable" is kinda subjective and the line may shift over decades of changing societal opinion, yes, welcome to law>>64198781is correctthis is important because of the potential for murders being disguised as fun and games. think about it
>>64198531>learned why laminate armor is inferior to single plate.lol>>64198555no, anon's right; two layers of the same material don't offer the same protection as one contiguous layer; that's why it was difficult to simply slap on steel plate to up-armour tanks and ships in WW2spaced armour and whipple shields have layers of other material in between, and/or play on the flexing of materials or tumbling of the projectile
>>64197477Technically, you could argue that he acted in self defense.
>>64199736had the defendant made a claim that "he attacked me first with intent to murder!" then he might have successfully spun the story that waybut it's probable that the defendant simply fessed up, and you've all watched enough cop shows to know what that means
>>64198832Don't half of murder cases go unsolved too?
>>64198960If you avoid diverse communities then that crime rate plummets
>>64199465He was living the dream (I forget, did he kill her, or he asked her to shoot him? Either way...)>>64199471Met a Russian chick, she'd casually say things like "worst thing that'd happen is I'd get raped" when talking about doing urbex. I think she had a rape fetish and I should've just held her down and had my way with her but I figured I'd catch something off her so I let her go get raped in the street if that was her thing>>64199798Diverse people can walk out of their ghettos, also your cops and castle doctrine types are also pretty trigger happy, and ICE will kidnap you if you look at them funny. https://niketalk.com/threads/arkansas-tourist-killed-in-chicago-after-asking-for-directions.572562/https://thesouthern.com/news/breaking/tourist-from-illinois-killed-in-miami-as-he-asked-for-directions/article_7f94e4be-4b53-52ca-8536-b6f4c62ed5a8.htmlhttps://apnews.com/general-news-1bc21a7e9666621160683774f6461090lol
>>64200195Whats up with the irrelevant links to stories of drug deals gone bad
>>64198960Statistically right now you're more likely to be stabbed or shot in London/Paris than DC
>>64196917>So no one told you life was gonna be this way>*four rapid consecutive gunshots*
>>64200195>she'd casually say things like "worst thing that'd happen is I'd get raped" when talking about doing urbex. I think she had a rape fetish and I should've just held her down and had my way with herif you were doing urbex together then yeah no shit that was a clear come-on
>>64199584So what, do they get off the charge if it turns out they were using 9mm on each other?
>>64201115>theyanon...it'll be manslaughter because the jury will essentially find the defendant guilty of causing the death of his friend due to being a colossal retard, but not murder because he did not have the actual intention to kill his friendthis is a crucial point in law; see R v Moloney(at least according to bong law, not sure about Texan)
>>64201176however, what is the point of a game like "lets see who can get shot in the head the most times wearing this helmet". The end-state of that game is the person pulling the trigger killing the helmet-wearer. So by participating in the game, you intend to kill.
>>64196984So if he does go to jail are anons going to arrange to send him metal bowls?
>let's play Russian Poker!>cool, like Russian Roulette right?>yeah except we point the gun at each other instead of ourselves >okay I'm in>oh and we pull the trigger until the gun goes off, not just once. I get to go first.Commonwealth v Malone is amazing.
Northington v. State ?
>With a rifle...Not "vest and 22 at 10 paces" bad idea. Rifle level bad idea.
>>64199588Books aren't one contiguous layer.
>A heartbroken relative of Prout's said he served in the British Royal Marines for 10 years before moving to Texas, 'the place he was happy and loved'. Bit of a twit, actually.
>>64201658>royal marinesit's always that bunch getting them selves in a bind isn't it
>>64201197the logic is that since they thought they would in fact survive it, for whatever reason, it's not murderthat's the key principle of the law heresuch as in this case the use of a Kevlar helmet clearly indicates that they didn't intend either to die; the fact that they were proven wrong is irrelevant>>64201620>hard to believeit's not even the only incident>>64201658>he servedwhat an idiot
