https://www.dsca.mil/Press-Media/Major-Arms-Sales/Article-Display/Article/4289280/ukraine-air-delivered-munitions
>>64198124Why did they rename the PJDAM as ERAM when there's a missile with that acronym...
>>64198124Is that a lot?
>>64198181To confuse them
GEEE BILLY DO YOU THINK IT'S TRUE..??! DO YA BILLY..?!?? DO YA...? COME ON BILLY DO YOU THINK OLD the ukraine WILL GET THEIR ERAM MISSILESGEE WIZ!THIS..THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!! IM GUNNA GO AND RUN AND TELL PAW THE GOOD NEWS BILLY!!WERE GETTING ERAMS !!!!!!!!
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>>64198290its "labor day" over here (tomorrow ackshully)im celebrating by working>"I AM THE AIRMEN NOW"
>>64198124Warcrime! How can Mr. Trump turn his back on the mighty Russian bear and expect the ass to NOT be in the ass?
>>64198797lmao America+Russia is the most based combo imaginable
>>64198181Yeah I was confused for a minute, thinking about the SM-6
>>64198842yeah, based on america having to stop russia from killing itself every 30-40 years
>>64199029>bails out Russia during Russo-Japanese War >bails out Russia during WWII >bails out Russia during the ’90s >every single time russians return the favor by spitting on the yanks' face as soon as possible
>>64198797>Russians do a psyop>you take the bait Tiresome
>>64198124What does it matter when an DoD ( soon to be DoW ) forbids using them on Russian soil?
>>64198842nah, it's like puking on a pile of shit
>>64199063And right now swallowing it and asking for seconds hanks to donnie
>>64198797>How can Mr. Trump turn his backDonald really likes money.
>>64199094Negotiating leverage on Russia, threatening to lift the restriction of US weapons being used in Russian territory is more effective if Ukraine already has substantial numbers of them.
>>64199559>threateningThreats would be more effective of Donny actually did anything once in a while. Constantly threatening Russia with consequences every two weeks then extending the deadline makes your threats seem hollow.
>>64199559>>64199562wish in one hand, and shit in the other and see what fills up faster
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>>64198124>Ukraine unveils Flamingo>USA "just happens" to approve the delivery of "long-range" missiles right afterSaving face?
>>64200767Nah, it's just a continuation of the "escalation management" that's been going on since Feb 2022. >Germany says they can't give Leo 2's to Ukraine, that would be too much of an escalation. >UK gives Challenger 2's to Ukraine. >Germany suddenly decides it can give Leo 2's to Ukraine. There's probably some poor fucker at the Pentagon who had to write a memo about why ERAMs aren't an escalation.
>>64200894>germany says it wont send tanks piecmeal and alone and it need to happen in a coalition>why germany no send tanks? Germany russia freen
>>64200767If they had 3,350 Flamingos the Kremlin would be a smoldering ruin, these are not going to have the range to do that
>>64198316this is some sort of primo schizopostwhat the fuck is this saying?
>>64200973stop talking to yourself, faggot
>>64200894>There's probably some poor fucker at the Pentagon who had to write a memo about why ERAMs aren't an escalation.More like Rubio had to take Hegseth's bourbon away so he stopped putting retarded restrictions in place.
>>64200996Kek. /k/ talks a lot about bad SecDefs like McNamara, but who was a great SecDef? Weinberger?
>>64200917Except they made dozens of excuses>We need tanks>No tanks, we can't send MBT!>But countries have sent T-62's and T-55's to Ukraine?>Ermm... Ermmm.... NEIN NEIN NEIN THOSE AREN'T WESTERN TANKS THAT'S WHAT WE MEANT WESTERN TANKS SO HAHA>Okay, France sends AMX's to Ukraine>NEIN NEIN NEIN THOSE ARE WESTERN TANKS YES BUT THEY ARE NOT MAIN BATTLE TANKS SO IT IS NOT OF SAME SO NEIN WE WON'T SEND TANKS>UK sends Western MBT>NEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WARMONGERS!And then they repeated this when people called for TAURUS to be sent. So yes, Germany is Russian fren.Don't make me get the list of all the things Scholtz said that never happened lol.
>>64201270Ostpolitik and its consequences have been a disaster for German foreign policy.
>>64200920>>64200996'deeps strikes' will never be approved because of the massive and un-survivable retaliation that would inevitably come in responseIran is a good example of that strategy (it backfiring) and its consequences>fight smarter not harder /k/!
>>64201285The whole point of Flamingo though is that they (the Ukies) don't need approval.
>>64200917Go and read up about the TAURUS request>No we don't have any TAURUS, no stock>Okay yes we have TAURUS but we can't send it to you because it is a 'bridge killer'>Okay yes UK and France sent Storm Shadow/SCALP and the MEPHISTO warhead is not much larger than that but TAURUS is so much more advance than those, we can't send it>Okay, yes, TAURUS isn't actually any more advanced that those but we can't send it because it is too complicated for Ukrainians to use>Okay, yes, they managed to use Storm Shadow and SCALP so it clearly isn't too complicated the REAL reason we can't send them is because we'd have to send advisorsSo, what's wrong with that Germany?>WELL THE EVIL UK HAS ALREADY DONE THAT AND RISKS ESCALATION SO WE CAN'T RISK GERMAN TROOPS!And that was the end of it.
>>64201285>Implying there's any escalation steps available to monkeAny effective escalation from puccia at this point will lead to a lot of domestic conversation on "why didn't we do this sooner"It's the same conversation as the EU deploying troops in Ukraine. The EU simply do not have an army to send to begin with, and sending troops is only being discussed as a symbolic gesture after a peace deal.
>>64198842>pic rellow blood pressure individual
>>64201285Drone strikes on oil refineries has cost Russia 20% of its production of oil. Which has massively impacted their economy. Flamingo (which I believe is a weird Bong kitbash piece of equipment?) is designed specifically to hit oil refineries, ammo depots etc that are out of reach of drones WITHOUT requiring approval. If Ukraine can't get permission to use Western equipment, it'll make its own. They produce around 7 Flamingo per day. Not a huge amount but it'll help.
>>64201331There are now three threads on the board discussing Flamingo. Nice.
>>64201285>massive and un-survivable retaliationWith what?
>>64201331>Flamingo (which I believe is a weird Bong kitbash piece of equipment?) is designed specifically to hit oil refineries, ammo depots etc that are out of reach of drones WITHOUT requiring approval>>64201293>The whole point of Flamingo though is that they (the ukies) don't need approval.another disasterous stinky dirty episode of the perfidious albion and their suicidal self-harm tacticsI
>>64201331I think that the ability to use Flamingos at the Uke's discretion is the most important part of that missile
>>64201285>because of the massive and un-survivable retaliation that would inevitably come in responseRussia has been clearly reduced to desperately sending a wave after wave of drones in attempt to terrorize Ukrainians because they can hardly afford an actual push.>>64200894>>Germany says they can't give Leo 2's to Ukraine, that would be too much of an escalation. >>UK gives Challenger 2's to Ukraine. >>Germany suddenly decides it can give Leo 2's to Ukraine.So saving face>>64201270Remember Germans just sending old helmets at very beginning?
>>64201386Remember the insane range, it can outrage Tomahawks.
>>64199029>>64199063100 years of the US keeping them from starving, 100 years of Russia memory-holing it two weeks after
>>64201455>memory-holing itAnon, they actively lie to their citizens about it
>>64201447>>64201386its it really 'good discretion' to start sending dubiously produced cruise missiles on 'deep strikes' into Russia 30 days before winter season rolls in?seems like a really REALLY risky gamble...
>>64201482whats the risk? russians are going to declare a war on them?
>>64201489>whats the risk?running waterthe power gridthe availability of vital services...you know all the things that traditionally went away during londons 'red line jumping' episodes in the past.except they dont live with the consequences of it and ukrainians do
>>64201507will the gloves finally come off?eyebrow status?
>>64201482When does Ukraine typically hit daytime freezing temps? October?
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>>64201482What they're going to do? Send in more drones?
>>64201482I think muscovites like having heating during winters. So it should be pretty safe.
>>64201524>Octoberrarely. lately winters has been so mild it barely starts freezing late november.
>>64201482russia bombed ukrainian energy infrastructure in the middle of winter. it's time for puccians to pay.
>>64201569>boysMeltingMein Neger
>>64201588>The boys fuck until they meltHoly omegalul
>>64201285Oh no! Are the gloves going to come off? Will monke finally unveil the REAL Russian army he's been secretly hiding until now?
>>64201570>What they're going to do? Send in more drones?the concern is "where" the drones are going to be sent....not that there will simply be dronesand given the time of year the northern hemisphere is entering, you would probably want to temper the decision to escalate wildly heading into winter
>>64201615ziggers already tried everything, there's nothing they can do but sit down and take it.
>>64201615Oh no how concerning, not Russian drones and missiles! Who will defend those empty fields and factories that haven't existed since the fall of the USSR?!>Load ze flamingo
>>64201615>oops 98% interception ratenothing personnel zigga
>>64201626>ziggers already tried everythingcompared to israeli style air campaigns, Russia hasnt even put the cartridge in the console yet by that measureentire regions could be made 'un-livable' if the final remaining powerstations/transmission lines, water delivery, treatment & sewage/ transportation and civil service hubs were taken outiraq/yugoslavia style consequences like nato delivered in the 90s
>Russia is now gambling their existence as a country on a war that’s going horriblyI’d almost feel bad if they didn’t start it and couldn’t just walk away at any time.
>>64201648>gambling their existence as a country on a war that’s going horriblylmao, but enough about israel
>>64201642>puccian delusionsyou don't even have enough fuel you dumb nigger
>>64201642>implying Russia’s Air Force can do that
>>64201642>comparing the destruction of a tiny ghetto with a country nearly 2,000 times largerIs that you shalomka pidornev?
>>64201642lmao try it ziggyOh wait, you already have been trying for the last 3 years.Pro tip- threatening to do something you've been failing to do after literally years of trying is not an effective threat.
>>64201642>like nato delivered in the 90sit's nice to see that russian propagandists are dreaming of being somewhat like nato. though reality insists you're no better than african tribesmen.
>>64201648>just walk away at any time.no nation in the history of warfare has simply thrown their hands up in the air and left a war because they didnt win it according to the time table the invadee set for themits probably the stupidest most uniquely polish talking point to come out of nato
>>64201660the dam above keev exists purely by the 'good will' of Russianswere Russia israel (or even ukraine) that dam would have been gone 2 years ago, as a strategic targetthe point im making is there is room for 'escalation' on both sides that is prohibitively dangerous given the proximity of winter, and the implications of that season in eastern europe
>>64201664>it's nice to see that Russian propagandists are dreaming of being somewhat like nato.keev wouldnt have power or running water if Russia was like nato lmaonato is ruthless lol
>>64201642>like nato delivered in the 90sHere we see another source of endless puccian seethe, the fact that they honestly believed they were going to have their own Iraq Invasion where they show off how powerful they are and roll right on in to take over, showing the world they are on par with those dastardly anglos!Except, you know, they aren't even within miles of the same level as the US and instead of a quick invasion to puff their chest and look competent they are STILL getting embarrassed in new and amusing ways every single day.Oh and don't forget>Iraq was considered one of the strongest armies in the world at the time and they got absolutely crushed>Ukraine was, and still is in Russia, considered one of the weakest, most corrupt, militarily incompetent and underfunded nations in the world, and yet "THE SECOND ARMY OF THE WORLD" Puccia can't even win an invasion despite YEARS of trying
>>64201671>polishrent free.
>>64201681Then blow it up if you can, pussy. Silence your yapping, oligarch dog.
>>64201642>muh Israel1. Russia isn't supported by USA2. Ukraine is + Europe3. Ukraine isn't secretly controlled by Russia unlike Hamas by Israel4. Ukraine has ways to fight back and got land to dampen the attack
>>64201671>time table the invadee setUkraine didn’t say 3 days btw.
>>64201699dumbassit was a comparison of israeli style 'total-war/genocide' tactics vs Russias "SMO calculus" which appears to NOT have abject ukrainian suffering as the primary objective unlike israel who has pursued some demonics strategy of collective punishment upon (((their enemy)))
>>64201710>bombs energy infrastructure in winter>bombs civilian infrastructure constantly>bombs children hospitalwhen russia finally dies we'll be singing songs and celebrating and hoping that every single russian eats shit and suffers until the very last second of their worthless lives.
>>64201671>polishYou mean the country you celebrate independence from?
>>64201671I love how much Poland makes you fuckers seethe.It gotta hurt to see Poland and the Baltics as success stories for breaking free from Russian imperialism. I pray for the day that our cousins in Belarus and Ukraine are free from you paganist heathens.
>>64201756Please don't insult Pagans by comparing them to puccians.
>>64201762TBF, at least the pagans don't pretend to be Christians.
>>64201642I think comparing an densely populated slum which the kikes can't properly genocide due to a combination of cowardice and incompetence to a sparsely populated expanse of fertile steppe with a hundred times more acres of wheat and cattle than people which the Russians can't conquer due to a combination of drunkenness and incompetence isn't really accurate. Also Russia is full of Chabad jews including the Prime Minster who larps as Orthodox.
>>64201736To be fair the children's hospital was likely either shitty intel or shitty aim. Baby cripples aren't a military asset worth a missile.
>>64201791russians tried every terror bombing campaign they could muster. >they didn't akshually try hitting the hospitalthey fucking did and they fucking gloated about it all over their social media.
>>64201710Russia totally would bomb Ukraine into rubble if they had enough bombs for that.
>>64201784>>64201819It wasnt a 'comparison' of israeli style war to Russian, it was the observation that should ukraine engage in obviously provacative 'deep strikes' using dubiously produced missiles, there still remains a great deal of "escalation chemistry" on the Russian side, as evidenced by how far israel has taken their escalation vs Russias
>>64201843difference is russia is dismantled through and through. they lost their bombers they can't do shit anymore but cube and seethe. kinda like what you're doing throughout this whole thread.
>>64201010Unironically:AustinGatesMattisWeingartenPanetta
>>64199559Where is the threat? Flamingo can already hit deep into Russia.
>>64201582I'm wondering if Ukies just having the red birds is going to change Russia's calculus regarding winter attacks on civilian heating infrastructure (just as I type this out I realize it won't)
>>64201507Russian strikes barely dent those services. Your water is off for a few days while they send water trucks, oh no! The horror!
>>64201843No you retard, they're stuck because they are out of gas. Fucked. Nukes don't even work.Fuck you lying nigger.
