Bought my first rifle a couple weeks ago. Brand new Colt AR15A4 still in box. Shot it for maybe 100 rounds and it was being kinda screwy with the trigger, couldn't even get through a full 30rnd PMAG without a malfuction, I'd pull the trigger and it would click but the round wouldn't fire. Had to eject a couple rounds then it would fire again. Didn't think much of it, I got home and punched the barrel with solvent and lubed it up (I realize now I put on too much lube and wiped as much of it I could off, I am new to rifles so mea culpa). I go back and shoot it again a couple weeks later, now the trigger is being screwy, sometimes letting off 2 or even 3 rounds when pulling the trigger a single time and slowly letting go of it, and other failures I can't quite remember. My friend in the armed forces who knows a little about ARs dissambled it and cleaned it (but not a lot to be fair), put it back together and we tried again. I decided to stop shooting it when my friend was able to pull the trigger on safe. We shot about 30 rounds before I put it back in the case and shot other guns instead. Really disappointed with this purchase, bought from Dahlonega Armory brand new in box. Do I just call Colt customer service or bring it to a gunsmith or what? Anyone else had similiar problems with a brand new AR?
>>64201434>colt AR>in 2025Deserved desu, overpriced garbage. Especially with Primary Arms selling DD uppers for <$800 currently.
>>64201434I could fix it for you in about 5 minutes. The hammer spring is likely upside down
>>64201450I wanted an old school AR, 20" with clamshell. >>64201474Thanks, I'll look up a YT video and maybe see if I can fix it myself? Like I said, I'm totally new to the AR platform and owning guns in general as I only turned 21 in the beginning of the summer. Appreciate the response.
>>64201434>>I realize now I put on too much lube Lol. Nah. In the Army I was spitting oil every shot. Wet around the takedown pins. Still do on every Ar platform in own. They all function flawlessly. If you use them they run hot as fuck. They are dirty nasty bitches. A well oiled AR platform is a well running AR. The added bonus is they clean a lot easier as well.
>>64201450>>64201434>>64201511lying shill?
>>64201513Appreciate it. I suppose it wasn't "too much" lube , probably just paranoid. Do you ever use those things that spray lube like out of a can, almost looks like compressed air?>>64201558Nope. As I said above, 21 year old pretty new to guns. I own a couple now and this is my first AR. Tried calling Colt customer support today but they're down for the holiday.
>>64201585>>nah. I just drip it on and rub it down with a rag. Used a spray bottle on the Bravo in the army. CLP will work just fine. People have a lot of opinions on "too much oil" and they may be right on some firearms. But when it comes to ARs and 1911s i just lube the shit out of them then give them a bit of a wipe down with a rag. Same one I applied with. >>colt customer serviceIts an AR. Watch a YouTube video on the assembly disassembly of the AR lower receiver and go for it.
>>64201474Yeah it's either the hammer spring or disconnecter spring in backwards, maybe both.
>>64201434But at least it's milspec so reddit will think it's cool :D
>>64201434Don't support gun companies owned or ran by Jews. Stay away from:ColtSig SauerIMI Defense
As rough and meh as PSA is, this thing has eaten like 2k rounds without a single problem. If I manage to shoot out the barrel I'll grab a tnt a2 1:8 chrome lined upper and see if I can't get that to wear out over the next 50 years.I got burned by nu colt with their king cobra and I'm sorry for your loss. But don't again they're shit
>>64201599yeah dissambling right now, not as hard as I thought it would be... then just put it back together and see if problem is fixed lol.>>64201672I got it because Generation Kill is like my favorite show. Little larpy but it's fun.>>64201682I'd never buy a sig nor an IMI. picked colt because for the price of a fully built 20" clamshell AR it was between colt and a couple of other brands and Im pretty sure colt was the most prestigious of them, other option was like BFK firearms. little disappointed for sure.
>>64201558Sorry mr. boomer, colt has been hot garbage the past decade or two.
>>64201666>>64201474this is how it came out of the box, just googled and managed to disasamnble it. is this how it should be?
>>64201719>I got burned by nu colt with their king cobra and I'm sorry for your loss. But don't again they're shitThat sucks I just got an Anaconda and it’s awesome, I heard about that bad batch of Cobras from my gun shop guy.
>>64201839I don't think the python or anaconda has the dog shit hammer spring but I'm too scare to give them another chance at that price point and was looking for something smol. The RMA and everything went fine but I switched it out for picrel for hiking and camping. Sp101 is solid as fuck too but since when did they get so goddamn expensive?
>>64201839The first batch of King Cobra and Python had some problems. They, in theory, have improved their QC, but people just lost trust.
>>64201948Yeah so I heard, it’s why you don’t jump on the first batch of anything these days.>>64201935I used to be a fully “Ruger Best” kinda guy, but this Anaconda changed my mind, the level of finishing and deburring, smoothing etc makes my Ruger MC look a little rough in comparison, it still was half the price at the time. But now with Ruger’s price increases, you might as well go Colt if you want a premium feeling as well as preforming product for a few hundred difference.
>>64201725>Im pretty sure colt was the most prestigious of them, other option was like BFK firearmColt's reputation has been in the floor for decades now, man. Might as well buy Remington for all the good that logo gets you.
>>64202144>Might as well buy RemingtonLet's not get ahead of ourselves; Colt should be slowly improving after being bought out by CZ.
>>64201832The springs are correct
>>64201832Thats an m16 hammer.
>>64202144>>64201732>>64201719man, my bad bros. I didn't know Colt no longer lived up to the hype. wont make that mistake again. mea culpa.>>64202196I put it back together and hopefully go out to shoot sometime soon and see if its better. when I opened it up and tried to lock the hammer down, the hammer was super easy able to drop and was hard for it to stay down almost . now that ive put it back together it SEEMS that at least that problem is fine. might even just go to the range and dump like 100 rounds and see what happens. thanks for the info bros.
Sorry to hear this anon, I have the exact same gun and it hasn't had an issue in nearly 1000 rounds. From what I hear colts customer service sucks too. Id try messing with the springs like other anons said before dealing with cs but I wouldn't go switching out parts or doing anything that could violate the warranty. I know I've read of people having to send 1911s in to get fixed and not getting them back for months.
The only Colts I have are this guy and an LE6920 from back when they were still top tier ARs around 2012 or so. I saw a Colt SOCOM P&W 14.5 a few years ago at a local store and the feed ramps were so turbofucked I could tell that rifle was never going to feed a single round. The P&W job looked like it was done by a trained monkey in 30 seconds, still had the slag on it and wasn't polished or finished over. They were asking $2k for that sad thing.
>>64202231You can easily try and simulate the unintentional burst fires.Press the trigger and keep it pressed, then push the hammer down until it clicks and then slowly release the trigger
>>64201434>CZoltColtfags are the Kimberfags of the AR world.
You get a warranty with that?Might want to throw an aftermarket trigger in anyway, nice upgrade that doesn't break the bank.But I'd check your warranty before throwing more money at something.
>>64201511Got any with a better view of her feet
>>64202196Did those retards at Colt mix parts between a civvy FCG and a Class 3 FCG?
>>64202342yeah as I said I assembled and disasmbled and will likely go out tomorrow and shoot it a lot and sincerely hope there isn't a malfunction.>>64202356just did it, if I pulled the trigger and let the hammer drop, then push hammer down till it clicks and slowly release trigger the hammer moves a little upward but doesn't drop. I hope that the slight reset after the trigger release (but not hammer drop) is normal? thanks for the tip.>>64202391I did get a warranty as it is literally a brand new out of box colt. I agree that if the problems continue ill go through colt and not just throw money at the problem.
>>64202439Why not just throw in a Larue trigger and see if that fixes it? They're only like $90 shipped right now and you should upgrade that shitass milspec trigger anyways. Worst that happens is you have a trigger for your next AR.
>>64202144Like other anon said, Colt was bought by CZ so their quality should go up, if anything. Remington, well, they're not under Freedom Group anymore so I figure the same should happen. Not many people on YT (ie. not a random dickhead on a gun site giving a gun 5 stars with the comment "haven't fired it yet, but _______.") seem to have reviewed a Remington since that happened, though, so who knows what their quality is like. Personally I hope they improve compared to their Cerberus days and I have a couple things in mind I hope they bring back.
>>64202592Mrgunsngear showed off a new 870 he bought with his own money not too long ago that had nothing but problems. Malfunctions everywhere. I like Mossberg more these days, but all my 870s are at least older ones made in the 70s/80s/90s. I wouldn't fuck a modern 870 with your dick.
>>64202214>>64202427That style of hammer is normal. "Full auto" cut bolt carriers are also the norm. Semi bolt carriers were a thing. So were the silly Colt semi hammers like pic. It isn't 1980, 1990, or 2000-something anymore and I don't think even Colt is even doing silly things like that anymore. In M16 parts kit builds (semi auto lowers) the entire bolt+bolt carrier and most of the trigger group is used. The hammer would have a little nub on the tip if it were full auto (M16 style, at least). A three position selector will only do safe/semi/semi in any semi lower (no autosear) IIRC. Difference between AR15 and M16 triggers is the open back of the slot (M16) and closed back of the slot (AR15/semi). Not having silly CYA semi only parts probably cuts way down on parts cost and probably increases reliability if anything.
>>64202634That's a shame; I really want Remington to succeed. Hopefully they just need a little while to get back to it after Cerberus did their best to fuck everything up (remember Remlin quality?). If they brought back their Law Enforcement Only folding stocks and some old products/guns they used to make I think they could make good money at the right price and quality. Just takes the right people running it and coming up with and greenlighting products like (hopefully) T/C seems to be doing.
>>64201434A2 is a terrible configuration anyway, mostly because the barrel is retarded
>>64202759>me, who managed to shoot expert every time I was given an M16A2 in the Marines despite having to use shitty M855 at 500 yards 20 years ago>used it in country to reliably put people in the dirt when called forPeople like you that have no real experience should really keep your mouth shut more often. The A2 is/was very good.
>>64202876>shitty M855NTA but M855 is not shitty, it was designed for 20" barrels, just like your M16A2 had.
>>64202439Yeah that’s normal, I think you’ll be g2g now. Nice rifle man hope it works good for you.
>>64202876>>me, who managed to shoot expert every time I was given an M16A2 in the Marines despite having to use shitty M855 at 500 yards 20 years ago>>used it in country to reliably put people in the dirt when called forAnd you supposedly doing that makes the barrel profile any less retarded how?
>>64203100Which ice-picks
>>64202686Based classic 870P enjoyer. My ‘89 is still nice.
>>64202759Homosexual Detected
>>64201725>I got it because Generation Kill is like my favorite show. Little larpy but it's fun.S this is how an NPC thought process works.
>>64201434About average reliability for an AR15, it is a deeply flawed design and Colt is infamous for not knowing how to spell quality control while employing 1930's manufacturing standards.
>>64203159Please explain to me why having a barrel that's only fat for like the last 7 inches makes sense
>>64203240You are right that the thinnest point is a pivot for flexing and will be the spot that causes most of the deflection, but the thicker barrel at the end can have positive effects.The mere mass changes barrel harmonics, that must not universally be good, but it can be.Added mass will also increase heat capacity and soak longer before you get to cookoff range.But no, it does not really make sense, but then it is an american gun, so that is par for the course.
>>64203158I have an 870 Police slightly newer than yours. I'm halfway to converting the furniture to wood and waiting for a good time to buy a Carlson's barrel to parkerize so I have a barrel threaded for chokes. And maybe silence, you know, for fun. Always kicking myself for missing out on those ONG 870s but that's life I guess. I just wish Remington would realize just how many people are just like me and would absolutely pay for a new production folding stock rather than pay $250+ for an old stock a reseller bought in a gun parts box lot at an auction for $20. I just hope they don't fuck the plastic type, finish, and checkering/texturing up (every company making repros does this all the damn time).
>>64203266>Added mass will also increase heat capacity and soak longer before you get to cookoff range.Ah yes, extra material as far from the chamber as possible, that should definitely help.
>>64203274Nta anon, but as someone who has shot the Remington police folder, you don’t want it, it looks cool folded and that’s the only thing going for it, absolutely horrific to shoot with any load that’s not minishells.
>>64203266The only points on an AR that matter for heat are, in this order, where the gas tube connects to the ports, where the gas tube bends if it does, and the meat of the barrel that interfaces with the chamber.Rapid fire blowouts on ARs no matter if they're DI or piston are ALWAYS from the smallest parts dealing with the highest points of pressure. Gas siphoning. I have never seen an AR with otherwise good parts have a sustained RoF failure from anything but the gas tubes.
>>64203293That's a shame; maybe on a 20ga 870 it wouldn't be as bad. If nu-Rem did what Ruger did for the AC-556 I think it could go well for them. I'm really considering it more for hunting than anything, so limited shots per day and no time to think about how much this shot or even next is going to suck. I already bought the B-TM, I'm thinking of getting an A-TM'd mini, and I'd grab a police folder if I could. Made a huge difference on my 10/22. An 870 would benefit a lot from taking some length away IMO. Of all the options it seems the Remington has the best cheekweld IIRC as the top is the bottom of a |_| shaped stamping. And it looks the least shitty. Funny thing is I think I've only seriously brought out that shotgun to hunt maybe once lol. Not a huge shotgun guy but damn even I want that folder. I'd say my reasons are 50/50 practical/cool. Maybe 30/70 practical/cool lol.
>>64203334Even with a 20ga it’ll suck, the first shot sucks, the second “Wow was that really that bad”?, and the third affirms that you now have soft tissue damage. I shoot 12ga shotguns all the time, my Auto 5’s buttpad is pretty rock hard, but still. 870 folder is easily the worst. They make breacher stocks in various lengths of pull or you might want to look at youth or bantam length ones if you wanted to reduce it, if it comes with a limbsaver, all the better.
>>64203358Is it as bad as a KSG with buckshot? Someone handed me one who "had a bunch of buckshot they wanted to burn through" at the range once and considering I had only shot a semi auto shotgun before and was currently shooting a 22 it was quite a surprise how much more powerful that recoil was lol. Nowadays it probably wouldn't be as bad having shot a lot more since then but man I think I was wearing a super thin underarmor shirt that day and that was something.
>>64203404KSGs are a little rough stock but it’s mainly down to the shitty recoil pad, and being a light gun with a different center of mass then other shotguns; and yes, it’s leagues worse.
>>64201434>>64201511Ah, yes. The eternal question of how to properly lube the M16/AR15. Do enough research and you're going to see fifty different ways to do it properly, including a few more from manufacturers. They will vary from a couple of drops of oil at key points to literally packing the upper full of grease to the point where people will accuse you of lapping in the BCG. You want to know the secret?>they're all correct>the rifle is that good>a little or a lot, it usually doesn't matterApply a bit of common sense though. If you're in a desert with talcum sand, grease is obviously a no-no and the oil should be light to the point of almost not being observable. If you're in very cold conditions, oil is fine but grease probably isn't. If it's pissing down rain on you, you want grease or lots of oil. In the non-fucked temperate areas of the world where people actually want to live, you can do basically whatever you want. It'll be fine. If it's not operating properly with no lube at all, something is wrong with it. If it's not operating properly when drenched with lube, something is wrong with it.>up here in the pnw where it's raining for 8 months and bone dry for 4, we oil the shit out of everything>or we grease the shit out of everything>or we don't do either and just clean the fucking thing after it comes out of the rain before putting it away>don't overthink it, it's a mature design that was meant for military use and it's remarkably tolerant of retardationI think that you got a lemon OP. Get in touch with Colt and don't accept the "it just needs to be broken in" explanation. It does not need to be broken in. It needed to be built correctly.
>>64203457Sheeeeeiiitt. Maybe a wider buttpad could help a little. And a fat hunting jacket.
>>64203158>>64203293>>64203334What tube extension do I get for my police magnum? I got one of those silly ones with the orange HI VIZ furniture on the way because it had the 18” rifle sight barrel but this one doesn’t have the +2 extension. My other police magnum came with it already so I didn’t have to buy one.
>>64203503Not sure but hang on to that adjustable rear sight slider because that little fucker was like $45-50 (plus shipping) just for the stupid fucking thing last time I checked when it was available. At that price I'll buy a new fucking barrel with more features in higher quality, god damn!
>>64202759>barrel is retarded this is what you say when you hear people say "A2 BAD" but you can't actually think for yourself
>>64203151Because the barrel profile doesn't make a difference in real world practical shooting.
Reading this thread as a potential customer for an AR rifle, which brand has a reasonable quality without being overpriced meme for "operators"?Eurofag btw if that matters. Ruger, Taurus, DD, ADC, Windham, Bushmaster, Colt, S&W are typical brands available here.
>>64204235FN Herstal
>>64201434try the parts cannon approach and see if that fixes anything. get yourself a different trigger or find a drop in trigger pack you like and try that. if the problem persists, then it's not a trigger issue. psa has a variety of triggers to choose from. make sure that safety detent is going back in right as well.
>>64204103It doesn't take an engineering degree to see that it's stupid.>>64204213Never been hunting much if at all confirmed. Yes it does
>>64204351I don't take my AR hunting. I don't shoot animals unless they are planting roadside IEDs.>>64202876 is me.Barrel profile doesn't make a difference. Barrel length and ammo selection are what really matter in regards to lethality and accuracy. Stop parroting what you heard some Youtuber say.
>>64204351I can't imagine that anyone here is such a good shooter that they're more accurate than an A2 or A1 barrel
>>64204561Handling not mean much to you?
>>64204618Get stronger.
>>64204629Noguns confirmed
>>64204618If youre rocking a 20 inch barrel in the year of our Lord 2025 , handling is probably not your number one priority
>>64201434Good time for you to sit down and learn about an AR-15 fire control group. Every single AR owner should be able to build and strip an AR lower. Some idiot in the factory must have done something wrong, good news is that its not hard to take the FCG out of the lower and reinstall it correctly.
>>64204631Help me bro, I can't lift it. It's too heavy, bro. Why did I buy this, bro? I need a pencil barrel bro, this is too much. I need a shorter rifle bro, it's just too heavy. It's just too much for me, bro. Bro, please. I made a mistake buying a clone of the rifle I used to shoot insurgents with bro, what a mistake I have made. Someone told me you're a hunter, bro? Please give me your wisdom bro, help me.
>>64204545>Barrel profile doesn't make a difference. Barrel length and ammo selection are what really matter in regards to lethality and accuracy.>parrotinglol
>>64204846Velocity and quality ammo matter. Barrel profile does not.
>>64201434>Colt AR>20 inch fudd rifle>It's shit11.5 PSA chads win again
>>64201434Colt's QC I'm the last 10 years isn't great.
>>64205383Anon even a McDonald's wagie could have afforded an 11.5 PSA AR by now, where is yours
>>64203154Lol it's retarded. Only ice picks at lower velocities, a problem a 20in doesn't have. Are you too young to remember the chart Wars from like 2015 discussing fragmentation zones? >>64203240Because they kept bending barrels when you barrel thump somebody or smack a doorway while running. Literally done to increase reliability. And give a little balance for their national match team. I'm cool with the a2 barrel mostly but I hate the a2 stock. It only exists because of national match and I'm too short for it.
>>64202351ayyy
>>64204235Honestly after watching SOTAR it seems every brand has problems eventually. I'm not super knowledgeable about each brand so I can't really say.https://www.youtube.com/@SchooloftheAmericanRifle/videos>TaurusWe don't get those here in the US lol. I'd love to see one though; wonder what the quality would be like.
OP here. made it to the woods. after dissamebleing and ressembiling, I just shot 7 mags worth of rounds with no problems. seems that did the trick. no unintentional burst nor not firing with trigger pulls/trigger not resetting, nor firing on safe. when I took it apart the hammer would drop super easily, would barely stay down , and 1/3 the time I pushed it down it would pop right back up, like I said after going out shooting with it ONCE , factory new colt just out of the box. seems we're good now...
>>64206174>dissamebleing and ressembilingDamn son, work on your spelling. Anyways, glad that all worked out for you, but you should really consider upgrading that trigger when you can. I can't go back to milspec, myself. Get a Larue or Geissele trigger on sale, you won't regret it.
>>64206359Not him but I actually shot better with the mil spec trigger I had vs my Hiperfire trigger (which is a legitimately amazing trigger)
>>64205383you can have both
>>64202876Anon i'm gonna be honest, you can do that with basically any 20 inch AR, the barrel profile doesn't fucking matter that much unless it's freefloated
>>64206559That's literally the post's entire point, anon. Consider reading the thread.
>>64206668The A2 barrel profile isn't the only 20 inch barrel profile, numbnuts.
>>64204805>taking all that time to type that shitYou're a sadder man than I
>>64206679Well aware, I have multiple 20in ARs that aren't government profile A2 types.>>64206694Muh handling, bro.
>>64206971Wtf is going on here
>>64206971LMAO!
>>64206174If you want a cheap but decent trigger, the Forward Controls Design one was a slight but noticeable (and cheap) upgrade over the milspec one that came with my AR. H&R and PSA come with them by default (as I found out comparing my H&R and the AR I bought the trigger for by accident, lol). Weirdly in the thread I said I got a Schmid but I definitely have the FCD logo on the hammer as I was inspecting it last night; I even remember they use some weird-ass fake business name on their packages so it doesn't look like gun parts. Oddly x2 mine is black and I can't find that option anymore.https://www.forwardcontrolsdesign.com/Single-stage-NiB-Trigger-Group_p_443.htmlStill want a Geissele like >>64206359 said; guy had one and let me shoot his rifle once and holy SHIT. He had all the fancy parts. Nicely gassed, nice trigger, nice recoil spring, buffer weight perfectly selected. Thing recoiled about as much as my 10/22.>>64206971Are we olt posting?
>>64206359>>64207750thanks for the tips, Ill add it to the list of upgrades
>>64203274I saw some of those ONG’s come on the market and wished I could have got one. My next 879 will be a retro wood build. Depending on what barrel you have, you could just send the whole gun to Wilson Combat for the refresh package ($230 or so) and they re-parkerize the whole thing. I remember when those folders were $300 and now they go for a lot more. Still want one!>>64203503Plenty of people say the WC and a couple other brands are GTG but I had a cheap one and eventually got the OG parkerized OEM. Depending on what year your gun is, there are two different length clamps, I think the cut off is like 2000’s? The newer ones are just a hair wider from the clamp to the screw hole based on the tube position. I would like rifle sights on my next one. All the Rem parts got bought up in the bankruptcy and I’ve found a few hard to find ones on GB seller gunrepaircenter. They also have a website with more listed.
>>64208355I'd send it to WC but the park is pretty good and it really hasn't seen any use other than what IMO hints that it did a whole lot of nothing except roll around in a trunk or maybe sit in a rack no one ever took it out of. Hell, the paint wasn't even starting to wear off the super soft recoil pad which flakes off if I so much as look at it. I guess they didn't need less lethal all that much, lol. Also I don't really like the rifle sights so that's why I'm going to buy a Carlson's barrel (as well as have options other than improved modified). Thought about a red dot but the Millet mount I bought for $1 used is somehow out of spec (will not fit a vintage Weaver brand Weaver mount). Lucked out and found a random unused kit for parkerizing for a whole $5 like 2 years ago at a junk sale. Having at least 2 gun projects that need parkerizing including my future Carlson's barrel, that was a steal. I think it contains enough concentrate to make more than a gallon of solution if not something like 5 IIRC, lol. Ditto the cold blue to darken it to taste/to match. All original parts are going to be kept safely away where they can't get fucked up so it can be put back to as-used any time.
>>64202214It's not.
