PICK YOUR GLADIATOR CLASS
>>64203059The thracian is holding the sword upside down, afaik all their swords where recurved instead of curved.>They were similar to a stylized Kopis
I opt for an elegant weapon for a more civilized time.
>>64203059AUDACES FORTUNA IUVAT!
>>64203059This is the ideal Gladiator loadout. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
>>64203059retardius looks like a class i'd play
>>64203059Murmillo pride till the day I die (which is coincidentally after every retiarius)
>>64203059Joining the Retairii gangYou're not truly a crowd-pleaser unless you use gimmicky themed weapons of dubious practicality
>>64203059Secutor
>>64203113>>64203330>>64203115Gaylords
>>64203059Reminder Retiarius was so OP and beloved by the females spectators that Secutor was literally invented as a cope Murmillo (favored class of men) to hard counter it because they kept getting dabbed on
>>64203059What's the difference between murmillo and servitor??
>>64203059Scissorbros where we at
>>64203673More armor? The shield looks like it's blocking the view, but it looks like more padding. Is this what >>64203632 was referring to?
>>64203673Secutor has smoother armor (no fish drip) so they don't snag on retiarii nets (very gay).
>>64203059The VDV are the true modern gladiators.>>64203113Literally specifically built to maintain the 50% loss rate.
>>64203904>>64203113>>64203115>>64203330>Reminder Retiarius was so OP and beloved by the females spectators that Secutor was literally invented as a cope Murmillo (favored class of men) to hard counter it because they kept getting dabbed on
What would be the most viable choice?
Murimilo. A siege shield gives you the ability to rest behind it, or to slam a physically weaker opponent. If they're a counter to being shield slammed I've never found it in sparring.If some gladiators have spears, well either you get a spear as well, or a shield.
>>64203673They're variants, it really depended on the pairings in which they were meant to fight.Scissor and Secutor were generally set against RetiariiMurmillo, Hoplomachos and Trax were other typical pairingsThere were even more types, like Samnites, Provocators and Gallus', thoough those were more common duriing the Republic IIIRC.Equites may actualy have fought on horseback.And one other type whose name I forgot may have been a charioteer>>64203632This appears to be true, there were even fight where they set two slow and heavy gladiators against one Retiarius.Do note that these fights generaly ended without serious injury or death, they had one or more referees in thhe arena.>>64203602maybe they're just female
>>64203113*thack*
>>64203059Rat
>>64203059>>64203113>>64203330Fuckin net faggots - the gayest class>>64204054That makes perfect sense-the classes were unbalanced and one class had an unfair advantage so they fixed it
>>64203059Aren't the matchups always the same and extremely unbalanced?
>>64203059Secutor seems like the least silly helmet with grabable points, and legionaire style gladius and scutum. But I dont see huge difference between them, the Murmillo and the trax.
>>64203059Dimachaerus
>>64205024>tfw dimachaerus twink bfit hurts boys
>>64204922They're usually supposed to be balanced or if they're not it was a themed event. These guys were the MMA fighters of today and had investors interested in not losing all their money to meme matches.
>>64204922No, many matchups were mirrored annd thhe uneven ones were designed to be engaging and entertaining for the audience.Arena combat was big business entertainmment, with lots of money too be made.
>>64204791May the Rat walk with you and clear the way before you, and may your problems contain the seeds of their own solutions.
>>64203059Crupellarius
What military value did gladiators have/could they have had?
This one is terrifying
>>64206280As much value as MMA fighters on the modern battlefield.
Retiarius. Fuck you haters.
>>64206284i remember having a book on gladiators as a kid that had a section on how romans perceived certain types of gladiators, specifically what sort of woman youd end up marrying based on your favorite gladiatorif you liked the scisor you'd marry a poisoner or a witch
>>64206471the level of salt the secutor must have caused during competitive matches to get thatonly other gladiator that would get even more hate would be the retiarius due to being OP as fuck against everyone
So was the Retiarius OP just becuse it had a better spear equivalent or because of the net? How do you even use the net in combat?
>>64206280>What value could men in great physical condition accustomed to dueling with novel arms and armor on both sides have to the military If you mean "without any rearming" then that depends on the type of gladiator. The heavier armored ones would do fine as standard heavy infantry, they have shields and swords and more armor than the lightest heavy infantry around, and some of them have huge head to toe armor suits. the lighter armed ones would function reasonably as light infantry, skirmishers, that kind of thing.If you're also not allowed to retrain them for large scale fighting even a little bit you'd kind of have to keep them segregated as their own units of shock infantry or what have you. But they're not idiots, I'm sure any of the large-shield armed gladiators would be able to pick up the large unit tactics of a legion faster than a raw recruit.
>>64204054but the secutor didn't hard counter itretiarius just had to stay alive until secutor got gassed by lack of ventilation in his helmet
>>64206756they'd do about as well as a band of trickshooters against a marine platoon
>>64206549>retiarius due to being OP as fuck against everyoneLmao retardius fags coping >>64206673>So was the Retiarius OPPlot twist, it wasn't.
>>64206771Yeah
>>64203059Gladiator literally means Swordfighter , if your Gladiator does not use a Sword , it is not a GladiatorMVRMILLO is the best one , the supreme style of Gladiator in aesthetic , iconic nature and overall effectiveness
>>64206788Except this guy wasn't a trickshooter
>>64206916and he was fighting soviets
>>64206280Terror/shock troops. It's not like every legionary was a trained killer, how many kills do you think the legionaries that Hannibal defeated had prior? Sure, gladiators didn't fight to the death either, but I'd say that they would be more used to it than a fresh recruit only trained in drills.
>>64204922>Aren't the matchups always the same and extremely unbalanced?there were known good and bad matchups, and they would throw in both balanced and unbalanced fights to keep things interestingunbalanced fights were used to facilitate gambling, because if the underdog won then the lucky ones who bet on him stood to make a ton of moneythey also didnt let types of gladiators cross train, so nobody would ever really 100% know how to deal with their counters or always know counter-plays to preserve an X factor in fights
>>64206944Soviets post mass purging of military officers, before WW2.
>>64206280Romans had knight helmets
>>64203059why did they gimp the hoplite by giving him a tiny spear and buckler?
>>64203059pitchfork operator is the coolest
>>64206673>because of the net?yes>How do you even use the net in combat?you throw it at your opponent and tangle him. While he spends time untangling himself, you poke him with your trident until he dies. picrel
>>64206905he fought swords
>>64203059RETAIRIUS>NOOOO, NET IS TOO OP, NERF!!skill issue
>>64209184Spear + full size shield is overpowered as fuck and would have dominated the arenas. You’ll notice all the rest aside from Retiarius have fairly short weapons. If a Hoplomachus had a full size shield, he could just keep the adversary at range and slowly poke them to death. It’s still their best play, but more difficult with just a buckler.
>>64209184Gladiator fights are for spectacle before anything else. Gimping the equipment is the ancient equivalent of banning spinner robots from your Robot Wars bracket because otherwise it's a solved game.
What really is the difference between a Murmillo, Thraex and Secutor? All have big shield and short sword.
>>64203632>Retiarius>beloved by the females spectatorsWhy? Is it because you can see his face? Is that it?
>>64203632I thought retiarii were despised as cowardly faggots compared to the manly, Roman Secutor?
If the romans were so great then how come they didn't have female gladiators fighting in mud, huh?
>>64204054How Secutor counter it? By having round helm?
>>64203059For me, it's Crupellarius.
>>64211543How frequently so you think they got grabbed by the handle and just got absolutely mogged?
>>64210968There were female gladiators, they were called Ludi and fought entertaining tits-and-ass fights, typically at festivals but sometimes in the arena. "Gladiatrix" has no evidence as a term until the 1800s.
>>64211581The Romans were usually too busy killing these Gauls with their axes and picks to worry about grabbing anything.
>>64211543This looks horrible to fight in
>>64206272>>Crupellarius>>Claiming to be a fanReal niggas know it was originally just called "The Gaul".
>>64210610they had different themes. murmillo had a fish helmet and was paired with the fisherman themed retiarius. secutor meant "pursuer" and was meant to be a heavily armed turtle chasing after a faster opponent. thraex was named after the thracians and was equipped like one of their soldiers. a lot of gladiator classes were based on national stereotypes and over time when they become politically incorrect they would just rename them to something else.
>>64203059It looks like being the retardius would be fun, they give you the weighted blankets to put on the downies and a fork to make spaghetti
>>64206673It was also more lightly armored and better visibility & airflow with no helmet, so you could outrun the others and tire them out.
It's arguably the weakest but Retiarius has undeniable swag
>>64212741Italian things
