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>Schizo Carbon
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>>64203443
wtf I was baking?
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>>64203466
Slowbro :p
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Well new thread so what’s the deal with LWRC? I haven’t heard of them before
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>>64203486
high-end manufacturer; been waning in popularity in the past decade but still good
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>>64203486
If you don’t have one you are ngmi.
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https://www.riflespeed.com/RIFLESPEED-Gas-Controls-750_p_12.html

how do i know which to get

or do i get bootleg bcg? what and why

please do my research for me

I have colt 11.5 carbine length gas with mcmr 10
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Mini-14?
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>>64203511
buddy scroll down on the page. they have a tool to figure that out
we aren't doing the work for you
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>>64203519
>we
Who the fuck is we?
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>>64203494
The paste in image warns against them, A2 nonsense or something more?
>>64203495
I heard even those that have em are ngmi
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>>64203511
7533 now go away
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>>64203528
I heard you should shut the fuck up.
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>>64203540
Sounds like someone’s ngmi
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>>64203543
Sounds like bitch in here maybe you should quiet down
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>>64203486
I love mine
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>>64203548
this pic convinced me NOT to get one
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>>64203547
Sure that not your mom making “content” in the other room?
>>64203548
Lmao nice man but damn that stock, is it comfy? The cheek weld seems sketchy
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>>64203551
Suit yourself. It's soft shooting and it has been reliable. You can use any lower. I just chose to have a pdw kit because I like it
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>>64203486
>>64203494
If you're wondering what Paul Leitner-Wise has been up to since leaving LWRC, check out VKTR Industries' piston ARs.

https://www.vktrind.com/

Not really my kind of thing aesthetically. They do include the Leitner-Wise enhanced BCG, which does some interesting stuff with the cam path:

https://leitner-wise.com/store/Gen-2-AR15-Long-Advance-Bolt-Carrier-Piston-Operating-System-p688227051

Paul (and VKTR) sell a version for DI uppers as well.
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>>64203557
lol my mom isn't even home right now you stupid retard.
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>>64203557
It's actually pretty comfortable, except if you have a beard. It's very lightweight so holding a cheek weld it's easy. I've shot it prone or with a tripod
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>>64203567
Oh damn so she’s on the corner then? Must be with a big one then, scream that loud
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>>64203486
If it is high end is either kac or lmt.
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>>64203576
Ahahahhahahahahhahahahahaha
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>>64203576
Erm and Daniel defense according to the image
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>>64203576
>lmt
Lol, lmfao. pic related LMT head of QC
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>>64203566
>do include the Leitner-Wise enhanced BCG
Wtf I've never heard of this one.
Probably going to order his carrier, I've been after a delayed unlocking carrier for a while now to stick in a 7.5 upper, but didn't want to drop the coin on a surefire obc or whatever bendy bill put together
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>>64203576
>KAC or LMT
>in the big 25

lol
hey buddy, are you still living in 2019? your heroes died years ago
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Alright so at a glance who are the top tier companies that are still top tier then?
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>>64203700
Larue
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>>64203696
Are they not? For out the box non tinkering, are they still not in the top?
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>>64203707
LMT can't build a gun that doesn't require hand filing or fitting to function. And KAC can't read a torque wrench.
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>>64203700
Hodge Defense desu
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>>64203214 #
>Best piston 308 known to man
That's not how you spell pof revolution
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>>64203723
you know why they call it the revolution?
because when you see it you do a full revolution and walk away
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>>64203707
Generally, if a suggestion gets a lot of angry replies, it's still really really good

Actual dog shit gets ignored , and random shillings are usually mid

Do. Not. Trust. /Arg/
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>>64203707
do your own research, a LOT of LMT and KAC have been fucked out the box on arfcom, reddit, 4chan, and the other firearms forums recently
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>>64203703
As much as I don't like that old bastard I do have to say he doesn't compromise on his core shit.
I have one of his barrels, definitely the most accurate one I own.
Still the best damn quad rail out there for the money too even after raising the price 50%.
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>>64203728
Kek
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>>64203728
So far, no one has suggested any other brand that competes against the two when it comes to high end. Not sure if the poor are getting angry their PSA isn't good enough.
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>american cops: shoot everything that moves

>german cops: run away from a dude with a single shot black powder slamfire shotgun.
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>>64203750
>german cops
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The only thing Larue made that interests me is their SUURG upper
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>>64203747
>Not sure if the poor
I have LMT stuff, it's shit. It's absolutely shit top to bottom.
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>>64203747
This whole place exists to muddy the waters
Really if you get your gunsooming advice here your head will spin. Because there will be good suggestions thrown in with nonsensical ones or people that just think it's funny when you buy garbage
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>>64203747
LMT owes me $368.78 for the barrel they sent me with a crooked pinned gas block.
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>>64203747
>>64203703
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LMT? More like Le Monkey Time
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So are BCM and DD legit? Like I won’t get utter dogshit if I get one of their 14.5” rifles/uppers?
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>>64203759
And people that buy garbage and think it's really good
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>>64203766
DD is the gold standard still, BCM went down hill. Guzzly and LaRue are still good.
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>>64203768
Yeah most of the budget builds ITT

Not that I own an AR, they're all garbage to me
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>Geissele
>Good
KEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>64203770
>Not that I own an AR,
Same
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>>64203769
DD good got it, sucks about BCM as their recce 14 seemed good, might have to do more investigating there. Larue got recommended too so I may check out their barrels at some point
>>64203772
Aw godDAMNIT man
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>LMT
Karl lewis quietly sold his company to private equity in 2022
Imagine owning an LMT DEFENSE marked gun, might as well trade it for a PSA
>Source
Made it all up bitch ass nigga fuck Ash gondu
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I've never heard of these things before. Are they any good?
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>>64203762
>Larue
Larue lost their seat when they started pulling a strike industries.
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>>64203777
DD uppers on Brownells 20% sale is the best cost/quality in the market that consistently comes up. Unfortunately you're almost a decade late for sub MOA $700 LaRue "everything but the lower" kits.
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>>64203566
how much of this is snake oil
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>>64203718
> Spine lock
> Pinch lock
Hodge is goober level cringe with little decent track record recorded.
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>>64203443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzFgi7HMmMk
>>64203723
You will never be a real piston
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>>64203783
making a funny thing with a very niche market isnt the same as mass producing chinkshit
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give me a single reason besides weight that the BRN-4 is not the ultimate AR15 available on the market
its not CHF but it is Chrome Lined (afaik) which i will count as the only mark against it

i wish the Caracal 816 would drop the adjustable gas block use a heavier profile barrel and either CHF or Chrome Line the barrels so they could actually be competitive with the BRN-4
i would love to have the improvements the CAR 816 made to the BCG and recoil system and to firing with obstructed bore but without the reliability issues of the 3 position gas system and the lighter unlined non CHF barrels
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>>64203785
Yeah DD seems real good, sucks that all their barrels are govt profile but that also doesn’t really matter so I’ll keep on the lookout
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>>64203818
Okay not all their barrels but I mean the 14.5” ones
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>>64203816
BRN-4 is regular guy training approved
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>>64203783
Look, the guy puts out some weird shit now and then, right?
But here's the thing - that stupid fucking thing is probably 7075al and machined well enough that there's only .002-3 in tolerance difference unit to unit.

That's who Larue is. He's a crazy asshole big baby, but he's also a perfectionist willing to tarnish his public image at the drop of a hat just to spite you - for instance selling drop in triggers that match the performance of yours for half the price, like he did to bendy bill.
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>>64203814
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>>64203834
so is gay porn
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>>64203848
>>64203814
Ok so Mark Larue is /arg/s kojima and he can never do any wrong, gotcha
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>>64203866
If you would generally agree with the rest of the class that Kojima is a horrible bastard who shouldn't be let out in public or given free reign to do whatever but makes a lot of great shit than yes.
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>>64203816
low quality MFG. see the bcg and machining issues. If you can afford to play the 416 game why not just buy an MR556A4?
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>>64203892
>MR556A4
lol, lmao
that will be $4k for your 16" nitride barrel saaar
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>owning an AR
>Year of our Lord 2025
>Not just posting here to fling shit and start flame wars because it's a cracking good time
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>>64203781
I haven't seen any reviews of these things in years. Maybe they work okay? Might be worth trying. They're kind of in a weird middle ground between the 40 round PMAG and the 60 round Schmeisser quad stack, and there are even less testimonials out there about them that the Schmeisser.

>>64203789
In regards to the BCG? Not snake oil. The improved cam path slows the unlocking of the bolt and improves ejection consistency. Worth looking into if you shoot suppressed or use an FRT or SS.

>>64203816
>its not CHF
To this very day, people believe that cold hammer forging 4150 turns it into adamantium.

>without the reliability issues of the 3 position gas system
What issues?

>lighter unlined non CHF barrels
The barrel in the 816 is a midweight profile. Not being CHF isn't a big deal, but unfortunately they don't offer a CL option.
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>>64203866
yeah hes based tbdesu
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rifles just look so much better with no forward assist



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