Say something nice about the MiG-23
>>64207102It was a decent unit in Red Alert
>>64207102The soviet F-111. An overweight monstrosity and as a soviet aicraft it didn't have good avionics for years to compensate it.
>>64207163You're thinking of the Su-24
>>64207102Had a toy of one when I was a kid. Had no idea what it was, but the sweepy wings were very fun.
>>64207102It was decent in a dogfight with Pakistani jets in the 80s.
>>64207102Fluffed up the F-14 and F-15's kill records just fine.
>>64207167That would be the soviet Tornado or FB-111They never intended to use it as a fighter.
>>64207163>seethes about the Aardvarkbutthurt slavaboo insults greatness he could never hope to achieve.
>>64207567the memevark was worse than the F-108 and F-14A (the main difference were the intakes)The worst part was wasting the F-111 with that POS, it was an "A" at best
>>64207102It's not a Fagot
>>64207102Great accelleration and straight line speed. Was considered a major concern to low level F-111s.
>>64207102I like how soviet it looks and it's one of the better planes the USSR produced before the Fulcrum and Flanker came aroundAlso the 27 is really funny and the 23's ability to go stupid fast right above the ground is cool
>>64207208F-111 was F in name only, nta but it's a proper comparison
>>64207208>>64208788>FB-111That was the strategic nuclear bomber version.<--Picrel (the F-111C for Australia shared its long-span wing)yes the 'F' in TFX / F-111 was name only it was a tactical strike fighter aka 'light-medium bomber' (in WWII-era parlance), it could mount AIM-9s externally and an M61 in internal bay but wasn't configured for air-to-air fighter work with USAF; it was an air-to-ground mission airframe
>>64207102It can fly sometimes, I guess.
>>64207102it had some really nice features for its timeGCI datalink for computer calculated intercepts, IRST combined with radar LPI ranging mode, look-down radar for shooting at targets outside the ground site coverage
>>64207102Finally thought of something truly positive to say.It at least has good parts interchangeability.
>>64207179It ate an AIM-9 from a pakistani F-16A. If that's what you call decent...By the way it was a puccian flying
>>64207102Mig-23 is a swing-wing, which automatically makes it cool
>>64208884>GCI datalink for computer calculated intercepts, IRST combined with radar LPI ranging mode, look-down radar for shooting at targets outside the ground site coverageThe only "features" it had were deluded fantasies of vatniggers like you.
>>64208860>'light-medium bomber'>has more range than the soviet Tu-22M
>>64207102Any swing wing is automatically at least a B tier for planes, points for taking the A10 idea of big brrt plane and making it more retarded with the 27. Also points for being a bitch to fly regardless of the wing configuration
It looks good in Luftwaffe colors.
>>64210513European One is a blessed camo config.
>>64210513it's missing the radar in the nose, is that not a 27?
>>64207102Gotta go fast
>>64207102FIRE-LIGHT*BOOOOOM*
>>64211770It's a MiG-23BN for ground attack, they were mostly for export but it wasn't successful in USSR service leading to development of the MiG-27
>>64209453Yup - bravest man in the world flies (flew) a mig 23 made from at least 4 different airframes.(Nose, fuselage, port and starboard wings)
The Mig-23 is not made in west taiwan.
>>64210322?neither of them have extended range without aerial refueling, same with most afterburning modern jets
it could shoot fox-1s like 90kms reliably, and go and accelerate fast as fuckit just couldn't turn too good and had bad ergonomicsit would probably win a bvr fight against anything NATO had at the time, as long as a ground controller pointed it in the right direction first
>>64207102The M is a bus but the ML/MLD have the best missiles at its BR
>>64213329>it would probably win a bvr fight against anything NATO had at the timeEarly MiG-23s would have been contending with F-4Js while sporting inferior interim radars, and by the time the MiG-23 was approaching good the F-14 and F-15 started to enter the scene and had a much greater advantage>as long as a ground controller pointed it in the right direction firstidk much about soviet systems but this would have been a very big ask for SAGE in an actual war
>Say something nice about the MiG-23variable geometry is cool
>>64213329>it could shoot fox-1s like 90kmsyou somehow added an extra zero in there>reliablyLMAO>it would probably win a bvr fight against anything NATO had at the timeit wouldn't win BVR against F3H Demon. put down the crack pipe.
>>64213426>and by the time the MiG-23 was approaching goodThe only mig-23 "approaching good" was the last one, the MLD from the 1980s, coming out almost a full decade after F-14's arrival in service. Previous mig-23s were celebrated for mostly fixing the "instantly enters unrecoverable deathspin and kills its pilot the moment you try to make a turn in it" issue that the planes had for most of the 70s and which continued to persist even in later variants afterwards.
>>64207102When it came into service in Czechoslovak airforce, it was deemed a "hot chair" and also a significant step up in capabilities compared to MiG-21 variants. Ground controlled interceptions had higher level of automation and radar was just better. By this I don't mean it had any edge over western aircraft, but the pilots felt it was a major upgrade.The plane was perceived as powerful and pilots liked the engine and it's control system as it was easy to use and almost completely eliminated surging.Here's a nice interview with a Czech pilot who flew the 23 as a display team member (so quite a bit of the video deals with aerobatics), the english subtitles are a bit simplified but correct.https://youtu.be/v5e5X-GaFfwYou will also hear a bit about how pilot training and carreer development went in a smaller comblock airforce, and how once he started flying at western airshows and meeting NATO pilots in early 90s he found out how formal and limited the training was in the east.
>>64214123>found outWhich is a common theme with our display pilots, BTW.I also need to mention how Soviets liked to royally fuck with satellite states by pushing late versions of 23s on them and once the contracts were written and payment/delivery schedules started they would be like "oh, and BTW this is our new MiG-29 that makes this shit obsolete, so you gonna be buying that it in 5 years time".
