Pic related the amount of Russian tank losses confirmed by @warspotting.- T-90s production rate doesn't seem to be what it is hyped up to be- T-80s are effectively running out- T-72s nearing the end as well- Still no sign of capabilities to revive old T-64sWhat even is a Russia without a mass of tanks over the Urals ready to roll over Europe? This image of Russia, that has been around for all of our and our parents' lives, known across the world, is now suddenly not real.
>>64209292They'll ask their melanated multipolar friends for help.
>What even is a Russia without a mass of tanks over the Urals ready to roll over Europe?A decaying gas station with nukes, run by the local spook mafia.Like it's been for the past 25 years.
All of this is roughly tracking with Jompy and friends' counts from satellite images.T-80s are now gone.T-72Bs near end, objectively worse condition and capabilities wise old T-72As not being touched much.T-64s haven't been touched since the one batch of -99 was taken in start of the war.
>>64209303I can think of a few things stupider, but I wish a zigger would.
>>64209292Or maybe tanks with barn armor are invincible and are rarely lostGuess we will never know>Captcha: NYAAThmmmmm
>>64209292Down to about a 1/4 it was last year, that's also during their 'summer offensive' aka the 'bunny ear snibby snab'What I've also been noticing is that the casualty figures are down. Like this time last year if you wanted 1200+ dead ziggers to use as landfill, they'd fix you right the fuck up with all the dead ziggers you ever wanted. But they're rarely peaking past 900 for the last couple of monthsIt also hurts a bit to see T-54 and 55 on that listThey could give them good homes to people who'd adopt them
>>64209303Intelligence reports show Zapad 2025 being the smallest Zapad exercise it has EVER been.They just can't find enough soldiers for exercises anymore. Everyone available is being sent to Ukraine.
>>64209313Except there's something like 425 visually confirmed T-64 losses so far, including Obr 1967.
>>64209330Disregard that I mixed up 64 and 62 in my count. They've lost over 300 T-62. There are 99 lost T-64s though!
>>64209335Let me guess you made the jap post?
T-90 count is steady and really small. If they'd have their claimed 300+ production a year, we'd see a lot more of them by now. But alas, no. Looks like the yearly T-90 production is probably below 50 even.
>>64209303>google zapad 2025Ok.Oh...On no...
>>64209351it's ok it wasn't consensual
>>64209324yep noticed it as well, I think the only explanation is that russians are running out of steam, map changes also seem to confirm this as most of the time they barely advance and in some places its Ukraine pushing them back a little. I also don't buy that they would save their resources, summer is exactly when they would push the most as weather conditions are best for offensives, so yeah, I think they are spent.
>>64209360>summer is exactly when they would push the mostevery year they've pushed in summer, then kept pushing in fall and all the way through winter.downtime is usually in spring.
>>64209335>18 months>Russian military losses over the last 18 months, up to August 2025, are estimated to range between 213,049 and 300,904 killed>Russische Schwein is seething and projecting againYep, things are ramping up.
>>64209360kek 2 more weeks
>>64209363Downtime is spring AND fall due to mud.
>>64209298>A decaying gas stationWhile the gas is not profitable, mind you. Verge of bankrupcy, only propped up by printing as much money as their yearly budget.
>>64209351>a video has appeared if someone here has it, please share it with me
>>64209300That is where the 14:1 ratio comes in. They can shove thousands of their useless meat to get a couple of villages few km away from the 2014 frontline, but their offensive capabilities are around 0 at this point. I mean they control less land than 3 years ago.
>>64209366He isn't even predicting some future event here. The realities on the ground are already showing it NOW.
>>64209370>stop spreading vatnik propagandaSorry, next time I'll not be quoting Trump.
>>64209375Crossing and holding ground across the Dnieper seems waaay beyond their capabilities now. Occupying Odesa for the foreseeable generations is completely out.
>>64209292several hundred tanks per year are sent to newly formed units kept as reservesthere is no point in wasting them on the frontline with those abysmal tactics, kontraktniks are cheaper
>>64209360>>64209363I've not seen them take their foot off the pedal either over the last however fucking longLike if they've got the bodies, they're being sent out into whatever godforsaken madness their brass cooked up later for the next great fallow wheat field and treeline advance. The most telling thing is that they're still dangerous, but I don't see them having the vast swarms of ziggers being herded into taking an actual town. Not even a City mind you either! Just a defended country town of two pensioners, a donkey and 4 dogs seems to kill tens of thousands of the cunts before they even get close to grinding down the point of it being untenable.Sort of the thing a lot of folks are missing tooYou need that armour and vehicle depth to achieve a breakthrough, ziggers footslogging it or some motorcycle tards hiding under bushes aren't going to be busting through a front line. Because they can't even do that, let alone get the momentum up to give you a broad enough ingress to run armour through, then follow up with the logistics, new units and all the other things.Nibbling on barren fields ain't achieving anything strategically No breakthrough, got fucking nothin!
>>64209386just look at the map, have Pokrovsk fallen? It was supposed to until last October meanwhile it's still holding out and not even close to being captured. How do you explain this? Are you going to repeat the z-tards claim that russia akshuallly doesn't want to take land?
They're going to start some retarded shit in the Baltics 2026-2027
>>64209406yes I bet it doesn't matter at all lmao, what a great analysis, thank you
>>64209386>Ukraine wouldn't be begging and crying for a ceasefireWhere?
>>64209406>doesn't matter if its 1 year from now or a month from now.Said no one at war, basically fucking ever
>>64209398A two front war when you're already massively over committed to the first front sounds exceptionally retardedThen again these are the guys that hit UXO with hammers like a fucking Looney Tunes skit
>>64209398Pay better attention
>>64209398Why? Even if you were the most redditbrained moron and think orange man has abandoned all of Europe for Putin the Baltics actually have modern kit that makes Ukraine look like Africa plus guarantees of cooperation with Nordic countries. Russia is so weakened at this point that America wouldn't even need to be directly involved for it to collapse.
>>64209409https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce821nl3251o
>>64209406Im screencapping this postexactly a year from now I will make a thread with it as the OP and we shall see what the state of affairs is then
>>64209418>May 12>Asks for a ceasefire if Russia wants to end the war>Never happened, Ukraine has continued on to keep bombing Russian refineriesIts fucking nothing
>>64209303That would be very unwise. They are not that retarded, are they?
>>64209375Russia is okay with 14:1 losses, because the gay westerners aren't okay to lose even just a couple thousand soldiers.
>>64209398For the last fucking time, russia won't attack the baltics! They're nato turf, which means a direct military intervention by member states as written in article 5 of the charter. Russia attacked ukraine because >it's rich in resources and harvest gain >it's politically corrupt and unstable (or at least it used to)>had a shitty military pre 2014>sits right at the border>it's the biggest former soviet republic in europe >IT'S NOT A NATO MEMBER
>>64209374It's on bitchute.
>>64209421>3rd >thursday What the fuck, today is wednesday
>>64209433They seem to be doing just fine now blowing up Russian refineries.
>>64209433>Please believe my desperate screeching! My entire ego and rupee collection depends on it SAAAR!No.
>>64209428At this point, while Russia is in Ukraine, it can't even mobilize more IFVs/AFVs nor soldiers against the Baltics than they themselves have. Let alone a 3:1 ratio needed for an attack.This all without involving even Poland or Finland.
>>64209428There's pretty much no NATO without the US, and the US is rudderless with patients running the asylum.
>>64209443Is Ukraine the one desperately threatening to invade NATO if the war doesn't end? Russia is.
>>64209431>2026
>>64209439They don't need IFVs, they'll send 300K pidors on foot and with bikes and scooters. And that will be enough because a country like Estonia has less men living there than one large pidor city.
>>64209421You sure that's long enough?
>>64209450I concede
>>64209430> femboy memes are realhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/reugeeFcN27B/
>>64209451>Estonia is 50% forest>strap 300k ring doorbells attached to claymores on various trees>unknown_technology.png>300k dead pidorsCuriosity will get the better of them before they can even leave Narva
>>64209351with a woman? wild!
>>64209451>300K ziggers mulched by artillery>zero gainsBrilliant plan
>>64209471what artillery lol
>>64209451300k civilian mobiks on foot/scooters/bikes would not be enough. That mass would advance very slowly. Estonia itself could slow that down and within days there would be reinforcements from Latvia/Lithuania/Finland/Poland.
>>64209443Why would they still be attacking if they were super desperate for a cease fire?
>>64209303>invasion of the baltics>while 99% of your army is stuck in Ukraine Genius idea
webm rel serfs asking the tsar for a new T-62
>>64209442This ain't 1949 anymore, europe has US tier tech and training while outnumbering them in all but supercarriers and nukes. They won't stand idly by if russia decides to finally commit sudoku at the doors of Vilnius
>saw family recently>uncle knows I'm open about my support for ukraine>pulled me to the side at said family gathering>began to spout every nonsense argument said by russian pundits and zigger cope>says how ukraine is basically out of manpower and wants to continue the war to keep killing russian children>says how ukraine is being forced to send 14-16 year olds to the frontline as infantry>says that all drone footage you see is ALWAYS from russias prespective, even if there are signifiers that say otherwise like armbands and flags>says 30% of ukraine units fly russian colors to 'try and get the drop on them'>ask for a source>"look up anything from these ex russian generals and propogandists, they'll tell you all you need">call him and idiot and leaveI had no idea the russian propaganda brainrot was this bad, and NOW I have to deal with my parents being pissed (but understanding why) that I basically told my uncle to fuck off.
Kind of telling about the whole situation, the last cope vatniks have left now is:>with a general mobilization we could still rush a mass of civilians into the Baltics on foot! Imagine a scenario where the Ukraine war is frozen and um... we only focus on one Baltic state and um... nobody would come to help them
>>64209464>Pokrovsk will fall eventually doesn't matter if its 1 year from now or a month from now.1 month just felt a little too short
>>64209487>europe has US tier techDoesn't mean shit when Bundeswehr doesn't have literal ammo for machine guns to fire during training. The last 30 years hollowed out most European armies. But even a bigger issue is political will and societal comfort. "Why die for Riga" and all that other shit.
>>64209451>they'll send 300K pidorsSo you're suggesting taking half of their army off the eastern front and open a new one? You want to see another Kyiv/Kharkiv rout?
>>64209514Europe has rapidly rearmed in the last few years.
>>64209519They continue to recruit more pidors daily, so it's mostly about a question of rationing the recruits for some time (i.e. don't send 100% of the new recruits into Ukraine, but like 70% instead) to generate some new detachments.
>>64209529Please point to the new planes, artillery, tanks, IFVs and jets in any country that's not Poland.
>>64209466wtf I love Russia now
>>64209534Shake a stick
>>64209406>doesn't matter if its 1 year from now or a month from now.it does matter, though. it matters a lot.
>>64209514>Why die for Rigamore like go kill for Rigano one but the most dedicated retard ziggers likes the russians. everyone is friends with or knows someone from eastern europe whose family would be effected by a russian invasion.letting them get away with it would als be te beginning of the end for the EU and with it about a quarter to a third of the continent's wealth.trust me Riga is worth killing a lot of russians
>>64209421if the ziggers keep pushing it won't hold a year. but they're definitely behind schedule, back in may everyone thought it would fall over the summer, based on the then-current rate of advance. the bunny ears offensive imploding may have cost them a couple of months
>>64209571fall rains and mud soon as well
>>64209514There was fear of Russian military in Europe before 2022. It has practically vanished now. The baltic window has already closed for Russia
>>64209531>don't send 100% of the new recruits into UkraineThen there's gonna be a manpower shortage
>>64209360I'd love for this to be the case, but I imagine it's the acknowledgement that they were burning men at an unsustainable rate. if they want to expend 20k soldiers on a meaningless village, you need to build them up by keeping the death rate low or by mobilizing. Putin really wants to avoid mobilizing
>>64209292Honestly if those dumb russians stopped attacking for even a year and just focused on real training and force generation, they would have enough troops to breathrough the Zapo frontline easliy. Thankfully king monke ordered everything now with everything available and attrited 2 armies worth of men and equipment. 6D chess grand master.
>>64209406But it does, sweaty. It matters a whole lot.
>>64209582The amount of money needed to attract new drunkards for the war has been increasing. The people willing to go in for cash is drying up. I think mobilization is inevitable if they want to carry on the war in 2026.
>>64209595>country they've never even heard of.>biggest war in Europe since ww2I am of agreement fellow concerned European
>>64209579>It has practically vanished nowYeah, sure, that's why Poland keeps rearming, Finland increases the size of the reserve and the Baltics started mining the border. Those counties understand that they can't rely on anyone.
>>64209604Do local news update you on the war in Ukraine daily? Because they don't in the US.
>>64209601yes, but given the manpower shortage in other industries there's no way they can do that without putting all russians through serious hardship. I'm not sure they've got it in them.The lower daily death toll coincided roughly with them stepping up the size of their shahed/missile attacks, which makes me wonder if their current gameplan is 'fuck it lets try bullying them until they give up again, I don't want to do anything hard'
>>64209617Before there was a fear to even confront Russia and the strategy was diplomacy and appeasement. Now as the Russian military seems increasingly beatable, the strategy has changed and Europe has absolutely no qualms of rearming for a confrontation.
>>64209628>Before there was a fear to even confront Russia and the strategy was thinking that the US will come in and save you.fixed that for ya
>>64209595Are you familiar with 20th century history my dude? The Europeans saw Trump's appeasement strategy as him repeating the prelude to WW2 and they understandably freaked the fuck out, hence the massive expansion of European arms production over the past 3 years.No-one is going to wait for Russia to reorganize and rearm to the point where they could potentially threaten the entire continent.
>>64209632>Europeans saw Trump's appeasement strategy>hence the massive expansion of European arms production over the past 3 years.trump is not even a year in the office
>>64209595>what the fuck is a latviathis aint american education they got
>>64209632>Are you familiar with 20th century history my dude?We are, but most normies can't remember what they ate for breakfast, god forbid they remember history and its lessons.
Based on this, the t90 production rate seems a lot lower than they claim. I'd say something along the lines of 40/year even
>>64209641It is lower than they claim but not that low. Supposedly a good chunk of new production t-90s are going toward a new reserve that isn't being deployed to Ukraine
>>64209595>it's such a small issue why should they carewhy would they appose it then?aside from a few spergoids everyone rallied behind Ukraine when they got invaded. why wouldn't they if it is a fellow EU memberstate?
>>64209651>a new reserve that isn't being deployed to UkraineNow that seems Russian propaganda, looking at the data.They need tanks for a breakthrough. With all the tank numbers decreasing, they'd put any extra t90s in Ukraine.
>>64209664It was per an ISW force generation report from earlier this year, so I think it's pretty credibly not propaganda. But they didn't specify exactly how much that reserve was getting.
>>642093853 years in, the real puccian army hasn't arrived yet.Has it ever occured to you retards that the snowniggers are simply lying through their teeth about their capabilities again?
>>64209428This, they won't do shit, if they do this time need to be totally sure that won't be resistance or they will get fucked again, they are not longer able to wage modern warfare against a capable enemy and even the most pig-headed siloviki knows by nowI can only see them trying after turning German and/or French governments pro vatnink, and after that I wouldn't bet on their success.
>>64209664For once, giving credit to russia, building up a decent reserve of tanks for said eventual breakthrough does make sense, especially with how much of a meat grinder this whole mess has become. The issue they face lies on the fact that ukraine has clearly demonstrated a capability to fight and destroy tanks through various means, like drones, handheld AT, vehicle mounted AT, airborne AT, etc etc. Russia may get another 'big gib' before the end of the war but I doubt it'll be anything big enough that warrants such a cost of material and manpower.
>>64209689The reserve is ostensibly to be able to threaten the baltics and other neighboring nations once the war in Ukraine ends
>>64209418Literally playing dumb to tell the Americans "see? we tried." All the puccian demands get refused.
>>64209689We might never see a Russian tank column charging on the battle field ever again in our lifetimes. :(:(Whatever number they can build up in reserves, it won't be enough to justify localizing over 5 tanks for a single road anymore.
>>64209689I'd sort of want to see at least some OSINT that they're building up a reserve. Because that's sort of the fun part of wars is that its really very hard to have reserves of brand new gear just sitting around for a year or two.
>>64209728I'm not really saying 'they 100% are and have them', I'm more so talking about the hypothetical that they are.
Kind of disappointing that all that ziggers have left in this thread is that:>Don't look at what is happening in Ukraine!! NOOO>We could hypothetically still threaten Baltics>That proves PUCCIA still stronk! Fear us, plz
>>64209704It might also prove handy in dealing with internal threats, incase the Chechens get any ideas again.
>>64209767Even your handles are about gay rape, aren't they?Now from 2-3 rockets we are looking at entire storages? These pig xoxols are quite the industrious bunch. Or did you forget the previous talking points "Oinkraine can only produce a handful."?
>>64209778It's literally listed as an oil processing facility in the image kek, they don't bother with detail inventing their faggot reality
>>64209767I've already been assured by the stinkiest and brownest of anons on here that the flamingos have all been destroyed in the factory.
>>64209783Maybe they get paid for participatingThe old turn up and get a star stamp
>>64209800Stinky and brown American from Texas here. We destroyed 110% of the flamingos, also killed ours in the zoo.
>>64209767>post talks about oil processing facilities>you're screeching about flamingo storagenigger
>>64209351>But sarge, It's not a sexual act, but merely a live action political commentary kind of like one you'd see on every messageboard or telegram thread.
>>64209783perfibius boris jonshon clones refused to work on the hohol V2 without a civilian cover for perfidity's sake
>>64209303Nervous?
>>64209829Anglosaksi here, can confirm. We require regular acts of perfidy to function optimally, much like tea breaks.
>>64209292In the last 48 hours the Russians tried a series of armored vehicle attacks, I'm guessing with dedicated brought up formations. Ukraine had reserved FPVs specifically meant for attacking vehicles - they switched over immediately and Russians lost a lot of troops. Most of the gains in the last years have been made with dismounted advancing on long marches using infiltration/ dispersed formations, concentrating attack vehicles is a now a recipe for everyone in vehicle was dead. They serve a supply and support function and unmanned is good.
are there any video sources/channels where i can watch clips of UK tank and armour warfare? haven't been keeping up with this war
>>64209829>>64209844Damn you, perfidious albions, and your perfidious ways!
>>64209767It hilarious to me how Russians have such a problem with anticipating Ukrainians. Because THEY would store every single one of their new weapon in a single centralized location, they assume the Ukrainians would too. And they push this silliness out to their supporters who dutifully post it here without ever once thinking why Ukraine, which has been hyperfocused on hitting large centralized ammo dumps since 2022 would then store them like this rather than decentralize them.
>>64209414What's this picture about?
>>64209963At least in Ukraine they'd probably close the doors before bunking off for a smoke
>>64209303They'd be better off launching a massive surprised nuclear attack on NATO and gambling on Trump being conveniently too incapacitated by the effects of being an obese 80-year old to order a retaliatory strike at this point
>>64210008They'd need to have working nukes for that
>>64210010I was just thinking that, eeeeeh, some of them nooks might be a bit of a fizzer; Assuming they don't just blow up before getting anywhereThe other fun thing is that all their kids are in the western world, going to school, getting gangbanged in London orgies and pretending to be humans in New York
>>64209424>They are not that retarded, are they?I've heard this sentence over and over for three years and counting.
>>64210019>So then he said->On yer bike Pidor!>...>And they did
>>64209303Wouldn’t Georgia make more sense as a consolation prize?
>>64210040Attacking the Baltics is the zigger version of suicide by cop.
>>64209300you mean like this street shitter?
>>64210016200-500 working warheads would be enough for a countervalue attack on US/European cities. That would easily overwhelm existing ABM defenses and you would rip out the enemy's industrial heart in the process (as well as causing some of the more fractious countries like the United States to collapse into civil war in the aftermath).Counterforce is completely out of their league though and likely always was seeing as Russia's nuclear triad has always been slower and less accurate than its American counterpart.
>>64210008agent orange would decide if US should retaliate in exactly two weeks
>>64210059Im not sure they could muster that. Nukes havent been maintained since 2014.
>>64209470cum/chug/ger you do know you fake women aint real women, right?
>>64209303TWO MORE MONTHS and the donkeys will have kyvi/vilnius/riga/tallinn in sight! Trust the plan, Z
>>64209491I find its best to use a dialectic approach with useful idiots. Use it as a teachable moment by making them stumble over their own words by contradicting their own claims, while appearing open to being educated by them. Not quite goading, but subtley encouraging them by appearing open to opposing views and being not completely 100% decided on the issue. Adlerian psychology shows that people long to belong to the group above all else, and thus are almost always eager to convert new members.simple questions:>Can you think of any reason why <Russian would lie>?>That is a very serious allegation to make against a government, surely there is appropriate evidence to support such a claim?>And you are basing this on...?>Do you think that <source> can be trusted to be unbiased?>Historically has Russia ever done <thing they have lied about since the Romanovs>?>Do you think it's possible that <the truth happened>? Why not?>Previously you said X but now you are saying Y, is that a contradiction or am I missing something here?You can't called them a retard (it's easy and satisfying as that may be), because that just affirms that "I'm smart and Anon can't accept my smartness lol"Make them state something, flesh it out, and then have THEM poke holes and pull threads that unravel their own argument. Be subtle, and above all else, PATIENT. Have them both tie the noose and then hang themselves with it, logically-speaking.At the very least you'll introduce self-doubt that they never admit out loud but still infects their thinking....on the other hand, useful zigger idiots are not intelligent people, so ignoring them is equally valid. Life's too short.Just don't engage them, they love a chance to LARP as intelligent so they can act smug.
>>64209351>>64210068Wait, is he fucking a tranny?
>>64209491country?
>>64210073It only took a year to push ukraine out of russia proper, to the disappointment of the local residents. Russia is surely the worlds second army to the norks that actually did the work.
>>64209324its their shithouse "economy". its officially gone into recession and their piggy bank they have been paying for the war sugar rush has also dipped low. No money, no recruitment everything that economists were predicting to be the end state of 2026 seem to be already coming to fruition. If agent orange does not bail them out ASAP things are getting spicy in monkeperium.
>>64210065>Nukes havent been maintained since 2014.What makes you say that? I imagine they cannibalize most of their arsenal to keep a smaller core of weapons operational but to completely stop maintenance? Nah. Not even they are that stupid... I think.
>>64210073
>>64210073>the country we invaded barely holds any of our territoryis this how bad things are for russia?
>>64210076its a regular girly fag. "twink" I think they call them >>64210068
>>64210082To be fair, the entire world economy is in recession and they're just printing money and pushing inflation to hide itBut yeah Russia is even more fucked, I fully expect them to require humanitarian aid like in the 90s
>>64210073 post mighty pozzias relative gains compared to 2022 faggot )))))
>>64210084They never maintained them, never had the know how or materials to do it. Contracted it out to the ukies.
>>64209360Recently the russians have moved units from other fronts such as Sumy and Kherson to Pokrovsk due to the exhaustion of the units already there. The fact that one of the units moved there is the 115th should tell you everything you need to know about how bad it is for them in that sector.
>>64210092>To be fair, the entire world economy is in recession and they're just printing money and pushing inflation to hide itWhy is fiat currency (and basic monetary policy) so fucking hard to understand for some people?
>>64210099>Contracted it out to the ukies.I know that they usually had Ukrainian shipyards service their navy's capital ships (which makes perfect sense so long as you maintain good relations as most of them were built in the Ukrainian SSR), but nuclear weapons? That sounds a little too close to home.
>>64210086>Norks care for their own dead more than ziggersGrim
>>64210059>as well as causing some of the more fractious countries like the United States to collapse into civil war being attacked by an external threat gives people a common cause to rally around. russia encourages civil war with disinformation campaigns
>>64210059That's only enough for a few dozen major cities, If you spread that across dozens of countries you aren't going to do any significant damage to their ability to retaliate, either conventionally or with a nuclear strike of their own
>>64210082>If agent orange does not bail them out ASAPNever gonna happen because even a Republican-controlled Congress is going to fucking block that and Trump knows it.
>>64210084>Not even they are that stupid... I think.You might have convinced me the first few months of the war they have functioning nukes but at this point they have jack shit.They barely have operating toilets and soldiers. Everything just seems so dilapidated in Russia.
>>64210107It was basically the belarus relationship until it very abruptly wasn't. But yeah, they didn't forsee a future without ukraine so hubris done did come for them.
>>64210128It's amazing what 50 years of corrupt, inefficient, nepotistic government followed by a collapse and mafia takeover of a country that makes it even more corrupt, inefficient, and nepotistic for the past quarter century can do to a country.
>>64210118>being attacked by an external threat gives people a common cause to rally around.Only when your side is winning. And since winning a nuclear war is basically an oxymoron unto itself, it's a moot point. I know you're going to say "Pearl Harbor" but consider this. Imperial Russia, Austro-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, all three of these countries violently fragmented despite fighting a war that was widely perceived at its beginning as being one for national survival.
>>64210136The thing is, they probably could have maintained that relationship to the present day if they simply hadn't invaded Crimea in 2014.
>>64210143Notably all not democracies with a serf culture ingrained
>>64210073>we're not being counterinvaded in our 3 day war anymore
>>64210088Is it impossible for "russian aligned men" to have sex with a woman?You could think it is genetic at this point.
>>64210157Banan does things to a rulers mind
>>64210176Truly it is ogre, baby chud. Wect fallen. Go to incel saliva z for news trying to bury.
>>64210074I'm a big fan of this approach, but the one caveat I'll add is that if they have a strong enough ego and a bit of intelligence to go with it, they'll find ways to engage in complicated mental gymnastics to avoid admitting they were wrong, or even try to outlast your patience. One time I had someone accept the holes in their argument, but then two weeks later they repeated the same disproven argument while adamantly claiming zero recollection of the previous discussion.
>>64210118Here's the problem with that. Politics in America post-2020 (I'd really argue post-2014 really) has reached such a fever pitch of mutual hatred that the knee-jerk response of a non-insignificant number of rural conservatives to dozens of US cities being glassed with nuclear fire is going to be public celebration in the streets at millions of godless woke liberals, fags, and browns getting slaughtered. The most extreme elements of American society already think like this (pic related).
>>64210143#BalkanizeRussia
>>64209356I love that if I was a zigger this post would genuinely make sense to me. Clown fucking world.I love this comment and I love being white.
>>64210196Not that far gone. If you listen to the main rural news sources its always about fixing and bettering the cities. Destruction of cities is anthithetical to that, destruction by a foreign power moreso.
>>64209292>amount of Russian tank lossesFucking hell here we go again
>>64210143>>64210196>>64210059>Hey guys let's launch a first strike against America>This will demoralize and destabilize them!How many fucking times does this have to happen throughout history for you fuckers to understand? American political divides evaporate and turn into pure bloodlust the instant they are attacked by a foreign enemy
>>64210239I am John Smith from Texas oblast, I agree to this statement and I am demoralized. It is totally our fault if Russia nukes us.
>>64210196>>64210143I'm not arguing that it would be different to what has come before, but it'd be september 11 dialed up to the max. Americans may hate other americans, but they all fucking love america. not many people would be saying 'hah its a good thing they nuked california and oregon and new york', and the nukes would presumably also be hitting military targets which have an over-representation of people from poor and rural backgrounds.
>>64209598> they would have enough troops to breathrough the Zapo frontline easliyuhuh. easy sure and ukranians would be sniffing their asses for a year not bulking up more defense lines/drone production/artillery/mines etc as soon as vatniks stop their meat spam the fronts harden and its going to be another avdviika/mariupol grinder trying to get any traction out of it. With the exception that most of ukraines military needs are already produced by themselves so there is even less their fifth column muppets like agent orange can do to help mighty pozzia by handicapping ukranians as long as monke is breathing he is willing to slaughter to the last vatnik to keep his sorry ass alive>>64209595>the incentive for every individual european state is to not contribute anything militarily.then why pidorashka is arming up ramping hard with all the money flowing into eastern europe military production. the incentive is very clear. nobody wants you faggots on their border and east euros are more then happy to slaughter every last one of you
>>64210239>a first strike discredits democracylmao no it wouldnt, it would 100% send america into an ethnic cleansing of whoever did it
>>64210239>Pearl Harbor>9/11In both cases Americans immediately dropped the left/right sperging and collectively howled for blood. Your kind really don't understand us, do you?
>>64210232shh. pidors are already delusional faggots with a megalomania complex. I want to see them do it banking on agent orange going full taco again. it might be what is needed to finally convince westerners that TZD is the only true moderate position for them and their fifth column tools
>>64210251Agreed, comrade, or my name isn't Tim Hamburger from Ohio oblast. I live in terror of Putin's iron fist of justice. Whenever he desires such, he will take his kilogram of flesh from our Nazi-Zionist hams.
>>64210059Here’s the problem with that theory.Russia doesn’t know WHICH nukes works. Which means, (if they’re not retarded) they’ll have to double or triple up the number of warheads on any given target to ensure it’s destruction.
>>64210275Who the fuck are those retards?
>>64210122anybody that resists trump are immediately primaried by him and his red cap crowd. Congress is impotent right now as that controversial Big Beautiful Bill showed they might do some other shenanigans like sneak in absurd conditions for lend lease loans for vatniks but that is about all they can do. unless the midterms force a balance change and trump loses his political monopoly
>>64209398In addition to what's been said, ill point out that Ukraine is still right fucking there. If Russia pulls forces to open a second front Ukraine is going to push half way to Moscow. Now with direct mikitary support from NATO. They don't even need the US lmao at this point lmao.
>>64210283Jerry Falwell and Michael Savage, who were two of the popular conservative media personalities at the time. Both of them had tens of millions of listeners and within hours of the towers coming down, they were already looking for ways to push culture war shit.
>>64210275>People were literally shitflinging and blaming domestic political opponents within hours of 9/11 And yet, for well over a decade after, America went across the world to bomb the living hell out of anyone who had anything to do with it
>>64210119the past 3.5 years have shown vatniks dont give a shit about neutralizing military capacity. they cant even do that in ukraine with a surprise invasion as their intelligence and coordination are too shit to be effective what they care about is bombing civilian cities to cause as much damage and death as possible out of sheer contempt and shadenfreude. why use a warhead on some silo in the middle of kansas empty fields, that may or may not be empty by the time the inaccurate soviet shitlog gets in there, when you can simply lob one into LA or new york for guaranteed kills instead? that is why western ideas of counter value and counter force are purely academic game theory exercises that, yet again, demonstrates that westerners dont understand how alien and malicious the asiatic mindset is
>>64210286They're not going to sign away billions in gibsmedats to Russia. Apart from the fact that's essentially a betrayal of Trump's own platform (i.e. "no more foreign aid for ANYONE" *except Israel), the man and his clique will be gone within three years and they're going to lose the Presidency, the House, and likely the Senate for the next few decades if they were to go along with something like that.
>>64210275>>64210283>>64210297culture war bullshit is as old as 2001? How far back does it go? To the civil war?
>>64210313> How far back does it go?To the beginning of culture
>>64210313Oh buddy, race baiters are old as time itself. Culture war has always been an extension of that.
>>64209417because muscovias leadership is completely delusional. recent gerasimov debriefing about the state of the war showed shit that made even rabid ziggers gasp in its stupidity. they had painted red everything where some sabotage groups had sneak in for a photo shoot with a flag before getting mulched, so they honestly they they have pokrovsk surrounded and are closing in on kramatorsk on the political specturm monke is clearly winning and this is causing him to arrogantly buy more rope to hang himself with. As a soviet boomer with more money then 10x elon musks combined he does not give a shit or understand anything about economics. Thus you get such stupidity as issuing tzar edicts about banning recession or forcing central bank to lower rates while real inflation is somewhere in the late 20s, early 30s in these kind of circumstances its completely reasonable to expect them to march convoys into the baltic states expecting a three day special rush b to vilnius/riga/tallinn. as they believe they are completely defenseless. only to end up with another convoys to kyiv and hostomel decimations
>>64210073Saved by fucking North Korea.
>>64210313It was not as mainstream as until OWS.
>>64210258>>64210260Counterpoint, when Nazi Germany invaded France in 1940, the French right led by Petain and Laval almost immediately started cooperating with them and used it as a means to violently suppress their left-wing counterparts.
>>64210313The ongoing "culture war" is Gramscian socialism, i.e. the shifting of a Marxist class struggle into the sphere of culture instead, as Gramsci recognized that culture is a major factor in defending a nation against revolutions. Because of this, these modern Gramscians, e.g. critical theorists, intersectionalists, outright religious woke people, are all involved in trying to subvert and control culture for the eventual aims of fomenting a revolution.You can trace this shit back to Marx, through him into Hegel and through him it spreads back partially into Kant and a bunch of hermeticist !gnostic retardation, where Hegel was basically trying to create a new religion for Europe / the West, because Christianity was correctly seen as being dead, secularized and only a part of individuals' private lives, instead of a living, breathing driving force of society as a whole. A lot of socialists basically build up on Hegel's ideas when forming their worldviews and ideals of how a country should be run. It's ideology all the way to the bottom.
>>64210040This is ultimately the funny thing. Assuming Russia pulled off the 3 day annexation of Ukraine like their quickly deleted articles claimed, they would have spent the next year or so using their tens of thousands of torture cells to kill anybody they didn't like off and then would have invaded Georgia. Since Georgia could be annexed by a mid-sized US state police department and is already pro-Russian, that would have been easy. They'd then have turned to Armenia and Azerbaijan and say the solution to their arguments is to join mother Russia and if it's Russia then you can't argue over it. They then move to Uzbekistan, Tajkistan and start their usual bullshit around the world more. Depending on how the West reacts they might then try for the Baltics in a mad rush to overwhelm them and the NATO forces there and then set up enough AA that NATO goes 'well it'd just be too costly so we'll do thoughts and prayers instead'. That essentially ends NATO and they can pivot to Mongolia and Afghanistan and most importantly; Japan.
>>64210308it wont be sold as simple gibs me dats but "trade deals". donnie loves his trade deals. when ziggers went to alaska the only crew they bought along were economic boyars and dangled stuff like exxon returning to siberian oil fields in front of him. vatnik propaganda did not make a single mention of ukraine but was talking about "restoring US-russia relations and economic cooperation" point is that is the angle zegroids are going with manipulating him going forward. Especially when trump does not get that nobel thing and thus loses all interest in making peace. Now I sincerely hope you are right and Congress finds enough will to stall this/block this at least until midterms. hopefully that will at least switch up either the senate or house
>>64210313>How far back does it go? To the civil war?Northern states were literally threatening to secede from the Union over the War of 1812 (and this was BEFORE slavery had become the hot button topic of American society).
>>64210306This is the true Russian soul. Destroying is a cultural staple over there.I can't explain why they do it. But it is all that the Russian mind cares about.
>>64210308>They're not going to sign away billions in gibsmedats to RussiaTrump will make it 'deals'. He'll then say something like>This cooperation between Russia and USA means that we have a leash on Russia so don't worry brosSame thing he said about the mineral rights that Ukraine was forced to hand over at gunpoint. He said that with these deals Russia would not dare attack American interests. Four months later, Russia bombs American factories and kills American workers**note they had already bombed American and European interests multiple times over previous years but don't let facts get in the way of retards thinking Trump can't do anything wrong and this is genius 5D art of the deal shit. Russia couldn't give a toss and in fact they cheer it, it means American infrastructure is built and Russia can claim it for them like the Pakleds in Star Trek.
>>64210360I never really considered just how hard the soviet restoration dream died in 22
>>64210364>Now I sincerely hope you are right and Congress finds enough will to stall this/block this at least until midterms. hopefully that will at least switch up either the senate or houseConsidering they just went against his wishes to release 30,000 pages of the Epstein list, I'd say we're in (mostly) good hands.
>>64210387It's all small margins. They had successfully pulled off parts of it, Clankening was successful and laid the groundwork for full annexation later. 2014 was successful and their propaganda laid the groundwork for full annexation later. The issue is Putin rushed it. FSB said they needed 12-18 months more to fully corrupt the Ukrainian command and politicians to make it easy but Putin rushed it because he was spooked by COVID and realised he could fucking die at any moment from something his body doubles couldn't protect him from. The entire reason Russia managed to get through the south was the commander was a 5th columnist and let Russia through. Coupled with Russians flooding Ukrainian phonelines and communications going 'lay down your arms, this is all a misunderstanding' on top of FSB corruption of officials meant that AA wasn't fired and things weren't stopped. It was only when Ukraine rallied and actually said 'we're going to fight' that things happened. Of course, Russian planning fucked everything up additionally, but had they just waited another 12-18 months they'd have managed with their civil guard taking Kiev.As it stands now, Russia just wants the best deal and can see Trump giving it to them while weakening Ukraine enough to do this again in 10 years. Who cares if there are 10,000 NATO troops in Ukraine post deal? Russia won't try for a decade and it isn't enough to deter anyway and even if they were attacked people would claim it can't count because the peace deal was signed with Zelensky who is an illegitimate leader so it doesn't count (which is what they'll say when they invade, but it means NATO members could wiggle out going 'well they didn't really attack NATO...').
>>64210306>why use a warhead on some silo in the middle of kansas empty fields, that may or may not be empty by the time the inaccurate soviet shitlog gets in there, when you can simply lob one into LA or new york for guaranteed kills instead?Not to mention destroying Los Angeles and New York causes vastly more damage in the long-term. Think about it. Millions dead, commerce and transportation disrupted, multiple corporations having their offices and executives incinerated, mass panic in every other city with tens of millions fleeing into the countryside. Destroying just those two cities would sent America into an economic malaise it would take decades to recover from.Of course it's better to nuke them over some ICBM silo, even if you aren't a retarded Asiatic zegroid.
>>64209292This explains why the kacaps are spamming garbage about Ukraine running out of M1 Abrams.
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>>64209351Why don't moskals just celebrate their gayness? Why do they hate their own faggotry so much? Imagine all the wars and invasions that could have been prevented if they just buggered each other out of existence.
>>64210430>As it stands now, Russia just wants the best deal and can see Trump giving it to them while weakening Ukraine enough to do this again in 10 years.Russia isn't going to be able to invade Ukraine for the next 100 years. They don't have the flesh for it, to say nothing of the metal. They have to win what they're going to now or lose it basically forever.
>>64210360> most importantly; Japan.Lmao, Russia has NEVER, in the history of ever, been capable of successfully invading Japan. And they’re CERTAINLY not capable of it now.
>>64210454If Putin invested more in the bussy infrastructure of Russia than he did on his fucking gay ass army, then this country would be no more fucked up than say.. Greece.
>>64210472but anon, his fucking gay ass army IS the bussy infrastructure
>>64210068Don't thirdies of all skintones unironically do the whole "not gay if it's trannies" thing?
>>64210260Retards and zoomies forget that the only two people who didn’t vote to authorize the invasion of Afghanistan were Republicans, and they didn’t vote No, or Abstain, they weren’t in DC for the vote. Every single Democrat in the senate and the house voted to go fuck up an entire country because one particular brown person lived there. We even knew it wasn’t the country the hijackers came from.Bernie Sanders, Paul Wellstone, and Ron Paul all voted in favor of military adventurism, don’t let the handwringing of the ensuing 15 years blind you to this.
>>64210483No that's just your gay ass uncles when they're running a train on you, Brantley.
>>64210460The millions of kids they abducted in 10 years time will be near or over 18. That's already replenished their numbers before they even started. They'll do what they do now anyway. Trick foreigners to come in offering great deals if they come to work in glorious Russia. Then few months after that arrest them for 'VISA violations' and offer them a choice of 6 years in prison or a 6 month military contract and after that you're a good Russian citizen! The fact you die is irrelevant.Russia doesn't and never will have issues with meat.
>>64210088>its a regular girly fag. "twink" I think they call themGirly gay, thank you. We don't like the f-slur.However the person in the video seems more like a non binary or even trans girl. Personally girly gays are a huge turn off for me.But I've heard Ukrainians use gay agents as spies. You'd think women would make better seductive spies, but i guess not everywhere.
>>64209428>Russia attacked ukraine because it's politically corrupt and unstable (or at least it used to)Do zegroids have an ounce of self awareness left? It's true that Ukraine is a corrupt shithole but we're talking about Russia here.
>>64209451>Estonia has less menEstonia has a quarter million strong military reserve, on top of swamps, forests, hills.
>>64209443Thanks for the input, you street shitting retard. Now go spam some more AI "art" on /g/.
>>64209475Estonian artillery. Do you need your ADD medicine?
>>64210355I wish Kant caught more hate. Not to say we'd be colonizing Mars by now if it weren't for him, but we'd be colonizing Mars by now if it weren't for him.
>>64210313In those ancient days...
>>64210467They literally planned to do so before they did their Ukraine invasion. Also if you read my comment, in this hypothetical, Russia has annexed all of Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan and has their military and resources and industry.
>>64210347>Indian gets mad at people who use toilets.
>>64210347Stop threatening everyone with nooks and see what happens
>>64210622Can't be holding Mr Fluffy like that. He's about to lose his shit and claw a motherfucker to death
>>64210675They may plan to.They can’t.They couldn’t even when they had the whole of the Soviet Union. They definitely can’t even if they had re-absorbed the satellite states.
>>64210763well, you should've told them cause apparently they didn't know
>>64209406
>>64209595Europe is a much smaller place, with slightly better educated people, watching the largest war on their continent since the 90s.This isn't like the the GWOT, where George Bush Jr. was trying to convince everyone to go on Uncle Dick's wild ride (and even then the Euros knew where Afghanistan and Iraq were).
>>64210808americans seemingly can't conceptualize that they too might be a bit more interested in a conflict that's taking place right next to your geopolitical borders.but no, americans would totally sit and do nothing if china attacked, invaded and started trying to annex parts of eastern mexico, sure.
>>64210818*western mexico
>>64210561fag
>>64210818>americans would do absolutely nothing and let soviet put their nukes in cuba
>>642108501. not a comparable situation, not an invasion and attempted annexation of a neighbour2. the US did do something about it, quite quickly infact.
>>64210561you're a faggot and a failure
>>64210863What is your desperate schizo garbage pic supposed to prove, Alenka? That you're high on krokodil?
>>64210863doesn't work the other way around, only you shill and screech when things aren't going your way.also nobody believes you, lmao, yes, i'm sure you conveniently bombed them right after you heard about them and thus saw them as a threat of loss-of-face.>b-b-but le videosa bunch of loser russians on imageboards did convince themselves they geolocated the place of the shooting, how unfortunate for them even if their geolocating skills didn't suck, that video didn't take place in the area where these are built and stored lol lmao.now, being that your ilk are so slippery, feminine, and scared of direct conversation, i know i'll probably not get an answer to this, but why not.why do you spend so much time shilling for a decrepid shithole? it'd be at least a little less embarrassing if you were an actual russian serf, but you're a failed man in the west, aren't you?
>>64210239Yes I'm sure attacking a country, known for Giga nigga rage when you touch it, is going to take hits and be quiet
>>64210515>The millions of kids they abducted in 10 years time will be near or over 18. That's already replenished their numbers before they even started.I'm sure they're 100% loyal to the people who murdered their parents and sold them to abusive foster parents. 100% loyal.> Trick foreigners to come in offering great deals if they come to work in glorious Russia. Then few months after that arrest them for 'VISA violations' and offer them a choice of 6 years in prison or a 6 month military contract That really doesn't work more than a couple of times. And even places like Cuba the government got involved and ran Russian recruiters out of town.
>>64210901>hits random facility>xaxaxa we no longer have to worry about flamingo!>gets flamingo'dok sanjay
>>64209398With what forces lol
>>64210901right, so i was right about you being an extremely feminine, skittish and indirect loser.>i just explained the reasonno, you're just angry and you're trying to emulate the geolocation collages that real people make when ziggers get rekt lmao.here, i'll show you some more kryptonite that your serf-like mind will avoid ever tackling because of your extremely low testosterone levels:putin is a jew, with a jewish mother.
>>64210515They quite literally already had a demographics issue from the 90s opening and scattering of Russians
>>64210489>Retards and zoomies forget that the only two people who didn’t vote to authorize the invasion of Afghanistan were Republicans, and they didn’t vote No, or Abstain, they weren’t in DC for the vote. Every single Democrat in the senate and the house voted to go fuck up an entire country because one particular brown person lived there. We even knew it wasn’t the country the hijackers came from.Why tell such a brazen fucking lie?
>>64210353But those are French
>>64210933>One person voted against itNTA but come on you're being a bit pathetic now. 434 out of 435 is as close to 100% as makes no odds.
>>64210561>"we"faggot ziggers arent welcome here
>>64210944My point was that a bitterly divided nation doesn't always unite during wartime, even when their collective way of life is directly threatened. Sometimes they just turn on each other. Just because America experienced a surge in national unity after being attacked in 1941 and to a lesser extent in 2001 doesn't necessarily mean that's going to repeat itself in 2025 and to make that assumption if you are a policy maker is a potentially deadly mistake.It was especially shocking too considering how savagely France had fought against Germany a generation prior, but by the 1930s it was a nation that was economically struggling and had become bitterly divided between right and left.
>>64209313Even most of the good T-62s are already sent out!
>>64210993the french didn't turn on each other during the war tough but after it.those months of waiting where fractious but once the fighting started all the politicking stopped, well froze. and the fighting didn't stop until half the country was occupied, the army was nearly out of ammo, the air force was practically gone and the brits had fucked of to britain
>>64211023>That just proves that new Russian tanks like the Armata are nearly indestructible.
>>64209313"Worse" means like junk, right? Doesn't drive, can't shoot, seals and electrics all gone?
>>64211030>government doesn't want you to know this but the armatas in the field are free you can take them home. i have 0.02 armatas.
>>64211030They're just going to leave them there to rot, aren't they? Billions spent on the development and manufacture of a dozen prototypes that got used for a parade and even failed and broke down at that.
>>64211012>the french didn't turn on each other during the war tough but after it.Some of the most savage partisan warfare on the Western Front was between the largely left-wing Maquis and the far-right dominated Vichy government which saw the defeat at the hands of Germany as an opportunity to completely reverse the effects of the French Revolution 150 year earlier.
>>64211043>Billions spent on the development and manufactureon paper
>>64211030We were robbed of the ukes dissecting one of these :(
>>64210196>pic relatedThey don’t even exist anymore.
>>64211036These numbers are all based off of grainy satellite images. Worst are tanks that have visibly missing large parts and are gathered together with other such tanks. If a tank has been sitting without a turret under open skies for several decades, all the electronics inside probably also need replacing. These are probably there for scavenging parts for fixing other tanks. But with great time and money could hypothetically still be made operational, maybe.See at about 6:30 on the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8CcuVCDEUw
>>64211046my bad, during the invasionas long as France was fighting there was no politicking. in moments of crisis countries unite
>>64211067Rebranding your organization as the literal English translation of Al Qaeda (I'm not fucking kidding) and continuing the exact same activities as before isn't really fooling anyone
>>64210138One of the best comments I've read on this godforsaken site
>>64210313Well, you see… It all started in 1867, when Russia sold Alaska to the United States for $7.2 million.
>>64209417>Baltics actually have modern kit that makes Ukraine look like Africa plus guarantees of cooperation with Nordic countriestoo many non euros herethis board always forgets that the EU has a VERY strict defense clause on their own>Article 42 (7)which is way stronger than NATOs art.5and Macron said it pretty clearly in February that the "Force de frappe" doctrine includes all EU soil defending another EU €country isn't just a matter of good looksthe Euro will drop like a stone if there won't be a massive responsealso multiple countries committed actual troops to the balticslike the Bundeswehr new 45th Panzer brigade will be at ~4000 personell in 2026 (~500 in 2025) in Lithuania
>>64210308>the man and his clique will be gone within three yearsNah. He's king for life now. Ain't gonna be any free elections anymore, he's gonna stuff everything with cronies, ignore term limits and win every electionwith 90%+ of the votes starting in 2028.
>>64209428>constant anti baltics rhetoric in russian state media>build up troops again at border>constantly testing air spacehmmmlooks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duckit probably is a duck
>>64209467you're jokingbut it's been a while since the baltics left the Ottawa Convention...personally, I wouldn't go the any forest near the border there right now
>>64210483Yes, especially in the Middle East and South/Central Asia. They only think it’s gay to have a relationship with men. Sex is fine to them.
>>64209324I mean their whole summer offensive amounted to absolutely nothing. Few months ago they at least captured one or two villages per week. Now it's one or two villages per month.They're so exhausted that they decided just full on terror bomb instead. It amoutns to nothing but they are happy to kill some civvies.Tbqh I belive that current frontlines will basically freeze. Neither side can dislodge the other in a meaningful way.Also neither side is willing to concede any territory so what we are looking at is perpetual low intensity conflict that will last years probabbly.
>>64211157>which is way stronger than NATOs art.5until you realize it relies on france, ireland and spanish population accepting their are getting mobilized to die for some eastern european estonia village. there's a reason why every post soviet country doesn't take western guarantees against russia seriously and fully believe in NATO despite trump
>>64209292They still try to keep a reserve going, possibly for a invasion of the baltics.
>>64209475>what artillery lolone of the 2,5million domestically produced shells in the EU in 2025fired from one of the operational ~330 PzH 2000 / ~50 CAESAR / 34 AHS Krab / ~40 Archer in EU militaries (and actual working production lines that outproduce Russia by a factor of more than >5x)at this point the EU unironically has more artillery than Russiaand that's not even considering it's almost all self propelled, actually hits and way better support in every dimension
>>64211231>mobilizedYeah i doubt it'd take that, vol army will probably be enough with russias garbage performance
>>64209413>sounds exceptionally retardedSo you are saying it's exactly something Russians would do
>>64211231>until you realize it relies on france, who already took a very aggressive stance>ireland and spanish population accepting their are getting mobilizedthat's not how it workscombined active military already roughly matches that of Russiathat is before factoring in the gigantic technological and industrial base differencesand you don't need consensusthe article obliges EU members to do everything in their power to helpif one doesn't, that doesn't prevent the other ones from doing somethingand Germany, Italy, France and Poland WILL do something, otherwise it'll be economic collapsesame reason why Spain will also do something>why every post soviet country doesn't take western guaranteesyou do realize that EU + Euro is a completely different bond / contract than some lose security guarantees?
>>64209687>trying after turning German and/or French governments pro vatninkBasically done in Germany. Not everybody in AfD is pro-zigger but it's enough of them to actually steer the wheel to be "neutral pro-peace".And AfD is going to win next elections. You can count on that.
>>64211286>And AfD is going to win next elections. You can count on that.LolLmao
>>64211286>Not everybody in AfD is pro-ziggerUntil they receive those ruble gibs.
>>64211314>Until they receive those ruble gibs.I always wondered why?CDU just takes EU / US company gibs and they're all richerbeing pro-zigger is as unprofitable as it is retardedi guess AfD never attracted the brightest minds
>>64211241Plus the ~30 Bohdanas they're making each month these days
>>64209349The number of destroyed t-90 is also now higher than the entire pre-war inventory.
>>64211293I mean it's not set in stone but it's highly probbable.https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257178/voting-intention-in-germany/
>>64211374yeah I excluded Ukraine and the currently produced stuff RCH155 is at ~20 this year, ~35 next year and probably >40/y in 2027 (depending on who's ordering)archers are somewhere 10-20 per yearpretty funny how quickly they outproduced Russia once they've ran out of soviet stock
>>64211390it's 3y before the next election anonlook at surveys from 2022 and compare them to the actual vote
>>64211314>>64211286>>64211390>closest you can get to a legal successor to the Nazi Party in Germany>it's full of fucking Russian cock-slobbering ziggers
>>64211390Nobody will form a coalition with them. Without that, they won't get in.
>>64209632oh okay that's what happened. okay fine.pay your 5% either way motherfuckers.
>>64209313Not you trying to obfuscate again. Russia is fucked for tabks that's why they are using T62s in the front lines, Russia started with well over 13000 tanks so...figure out how many have been destoyed, futher that data you posted is nearly 8 months old.
>>64209313>T-64s haven't been touched since the one batch of -99 was taken in start of the war.They wree made and mothballed in Ukraine, Russia does not have the parts and can't make them, they have not been part of rusisan logistics and maintenece for decades although I'm, sure they will cannibailse some and get a few running eventually
>>64209292>Russia is running out of tanks!!! Lol, this board still coping and seething?
>>64211036>Worse" means like junk, right? Doesn't drive, can't shoot, seals and electrics all gone?Yes and no engine either in most cases
>>64209292Yeah 2025 -2026 was alwasy the end game for Russian heavy weapons and their war chest. Putin is fucked unless Xi enters the war and the EU stopping trade with China would be extremly painful for China, like economic collapse tier painful
>>64212031I thought it was a jeet who garles russian propagana farms in india like the hindustani times because they armed themseves with russian garbage and tactics.
>>64212011Mind telling us why Russia is using less armor in 2025 then? Are e-scooters really that powerful?
>>64212056motorcycles are the new cavalry fucking cope about it bitch
>>64212148This level of seethe deserves a hearty kek.Hearty kek.
ziggers and serbs getting spit roastedalso is serb an insult in itself... like say zigger?
>>64212056Not him, but I honestly find it hard to believeI've been watching the stocks in storage dwindle, but I may have overestimated the quality of what is left, because I hadn't expected the more tragic variety of shortage to come about until next yearI guess I figured they'd be arming a new unit hoping to make some kind of move that makes them look strong while all this current peacemongering is going on
>>64209617They are doing that exactly to disencourage any attacks, if they did nothing, you would claim it shows how weak they are, you dishonest fag.
>>64210088>its a regular girly fagIn the full video, >she is wearing a skirt so (s)he is a cross-dressing fag, e.g. a femboy.I guess Belarusian military ranges come with Russian range-traps.The surprising thing is that it seems to be consensual.
>>64210068russians really are the superior race for making traps
>>64210472Shut the fuck up, Ray.
>>64210472>>64212346>This is what the Kremlin thought three days to Kyiv would be.
>>64209298I'm afraid it's even worse.>A decaying gas station ALLEGEDLY with nukes
>>64210472>Russian population: 150 000 000 (only desu)>Russian war spending: X millions of dollarsI really want to know how much money he could give to every russian citizen instead
>>64209428Actually this is Russia we are talking about here, I can think of a scenario where they ABSOLUTELY would attack a NATO nation despite knowing fully that they are going to be crushed. Yep that's right, it's face saving.>Monke unleashes his FINAL PLAN once he can no longer cope that he can still win>A full on offensive into Poland using the most advanced weapons and logistics Russia has, donkeys and Mosins!>Predictably gets absolutely crushed, has huge swathes of Russia occupied by NATO forces>Hahahah! You stepped right into my trap foolish wectoids!>Propaganda machine goes ALL IN on declaring that->A) NATO attacked unprovoked and/or that the "Invasion" of Poland was an Anglo false flag>B) Russia was only TWO WEEKS from total crushing victory in Ukraine, this is why NATO attacked>C) Because Russia was only stopped from winning the 3 day SMO due to outside interference, it's honestly not anyone in Russia's fault that it failed, it's all to be blamed on perdiferous wectoids, especially the damnable Anglos and their Boris Johnson spies>D) Due to the threat to Russian sovereignty and NATO spies, total martial law is declared. Because any future elections will undoubtedly be Western fake news, Putin has NO CHOICE to declare himself lifetime ruler of Russia, and to prevent any kind of succession crisis, he declares his favorite son his heir.>E) Congratulations monke, if you can't be Chairman of the Neo-USSR you can settle for being NEO-TSAR MONKE! ALL HAIL TSAR MONKE!!!
>>64210472What level of clown world would be on if after the war Russia decides to try to rebuild its economy, image, and foreign relations by playing into just how fucking gay it really is? Just turn itself into the world's bathhouse?>Russia!>We're really, really, fucking gay!>rainbowKremlin.jpg
>>64211390>I mean it's not set in stone but it's highly probbable.according to ziggers they were supposed to win already and form a coalition with the BSW commies kek
>>64210257I appreciate the tardenkreuz.
>>64210561Faggot.
>>64210561fun fact, in Poland the terms "ciota" and "pedał" (both faggot-equivalent slurs in normal language) were coopted by the gay scene ("pedały" were the more masculine/bearish homos, "cioty" the limp-wristed/effete fags) similarly to how blacks use "nigger", i.e. "it's OK when they say it themselves"....or at least that was the case ~2 decades ago, haven't been in touch (heh) with the gay scene, so it's possible leftoid shit killed the slang in the meantime.
>>64212402I hate that this is plausible
>>64210084>What makes you say that?For once a big part of the maintenance was done for them by ukies (so much for hurr-durr ukies never controlled their nukes in the 90s)
>>64210084>What makes you say that?a) if they had working nukes, they'd either nuke ukraine in fall of 2022, or during the kursk invasion;b) there are rumors in russia that the regime wanted to do a nuclear test explosion in siberia during 2023-2025 as a way to sabre rattle and scare western powers, but none of the planned explosions actually worked;
>>64210128>Everything just seems so dilapidated in Russia.The russian/soviet approach is to make a thing and walk away, because maintenance is a day and degenerate western concept. It works for some years but afterwards it slowly becomes a facade of the thing you've made.
>>64210460>They don't have the flesh for itMy brother in Christ, they are importing million of migrants every year. To the point that they have female circumcision clinics in moscow now and the state silently removes the crosses from official imagery year after year.
>>64210914>I'm sure they're 100% loyal to the people who murdered their parents and sold them to abusive foster parents. 100% loyal.Most kids are easily brainwashable, especially when they'll have to live in an environment which all projects a specific picture.
>>64211157>Bundeswehr new 45th Panzer brigade will be at ~4000 personell in 2026 (~500 in 2025) in Lithuania500 people, god damn, whole 500 people, zomg
>>64211241Does Latvia and Estonia have that artillery? No? Well that's your answer. Reality has shown that yo can rely on other to fight for you.
>>64211393>we're making ~30 artillery pieces next year>this is a lotBruh
>>64212721those production numbers make me think me and my machinist friend could out-bid them for the contract and deliver more artillery pieces for less money
Shills are up, time to abandon thread
>>64212764Back to multipolar posting hours
>>64211004From 1789 to 1940 France had>Revolution>First Republic>Dictatorship>Monarchy>Different Monarchy>Revolution a deux>Monarchy, now with only a hint of Bourbon>More revolution>Republic two baguette boogaloo>Monarchy again now with nickel a play Napoleon>Communist uprising in Paris>Republique a troisIn the same time period the US had>Peaceful transfer of power>Five year civil war around the middle bit>Peaceful transfer of power continuesFrance had ANOTHER republic collapse with De Gaulle's coup in 1958. I'm not saying it can't happen in the US, I'm saying that the odds of anyone remotely close to power going "Yes we just got hit hard and millions of Americans are dead we'll just bow and scrape and make whoever did it happy" will be spending the rest of their life dodging bullets.
>>64212402Putin and friends will either end up hanged in Prague or commit suicide by shooting themselves seventeen times in the back of the head. There is no scenario short of freezing the conflict and counting on someone, anyone to bail them out that where that doesn't happen. Either they get murdered in a power struggle or handed over to try and get some good will from the West if anything else happens.
>>64210008There's two other nuclear powers in NATO besides the US
>>64209865> the key to military success on the modern battlefield is basic bitch infantry skills and training, not equipmentwho could've guessed
>>64213228With at least on of them being tied to the use of US missiles
>>64211012>the brits had fucked of to britainThey were on their way back when France sued for peacehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Expeditionary_Force_(World_War_II)#Second_BEF
>>64213327I'm sure the Brits will give a fuck about the terms of the Trident leasing agreement after Russia has used nukes
>>64213228Should have at least 5
>>64212401>I really want to know how much money he could give to every russian citizen insteadit's not just the war spendingif Putin didn't have his retarded russian empire delusions in the early 2000sthey could've spend less on their military in the last 20y, export more from literally everything and have more economic growth in any sectorthey've lost something like ~$30-50billion in gas/oil money alone since 2022not that any normal citizen ever saw a single Ruble of that
>>64211074>But with great time and money could hypothetically still be made operational, maybe.Does Russia have the time and money? Wouldn't it be more cost effective at some point just to build new tanks
