What do we think of chinas new laser weapon system? Personally i think it looks pretty cool, not sure about its capabilitys tough
>>64211076I just don't get deploying what is ostensibly a SHORAD asset on a massive fucking truck like that. No matter how good of a laser it is, it's only going to be effective out to a few km before its power is reduced by atmospheric distortion. You've got a line of sight weapon on a platform significantly larger than a Patriot or S-300/400 launcher. Low ground clearance with a long wheelbase like that isn't good for off road capability either.
>>64211076Its vely implessive, 1000 terawattagiga power superb yes!
>>64211076It's a system the size of a bus designed to take out drones from a kilometer away. A single tomahawk cruise missile is going to take one of these out and the resulting battery explosion is going to look like a Chinese sparkler fountain on the 4th of July.
>>64211103Obviously for the massive power system.
>>64211103That requires thought. This is a parade piece like armata
>>64211103It’s a naval system and one article claims they only mounted it on those trucks for show. https://armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/defense-alert-new-chinese-ly1-laser-weapon-claimed-to-be-among-most-powerful-reshaping-naval-warfare>China unveiled the LY-1 naval laser system, mounted for the occasion on the eight-wheeled HZ141
>>64211132That makes more sense, so they're catching up to the Helios systems now. Good for them, drones are retarded.
>>64211132Yeah but why mount it on such a complex looking truck then? Why not just plop it on a flatbed or something?
>>64211076Doesn't look like it would be much good in a muddy field.
>>64211076>not sure about it’s capabilities thoughThat’s the problem with every piece of implessive chinese tech.They just show it off visually and then we never hear anything about it apart from vague speculation from chinks that have nothing to do with it. That’s what makes most of these china threads feel so pointless to me.
>>64211155Gotta make it look implessiveFlatbeds will make them lose face obviously
>>64211132>>64211155Maybe they wanna use it on both land and sea?They could've just put it in a smaller truck, but clearly those trucks are carrying a fuckton of capacitors and batteries.
>>64211155I guess because at least on the truck it looks like it could fire? If you slap it on a flatbed it’s obvious it would have no power etc. It’s a parade after all. Gotta dress things up to look implessive.
If they intend to use it with those trucks it will most likely be used as point defense near important infrastructure, which will be in or around cities. No need for an offroad capable vehicle there.
>>64211114This kinda low-effort posting is what's ruining the board.
>>64211076>>64211103Lasers can have extreme range, capable of killing satellite, I wouldn't be surprised it raise itself up to give the turret much better rangeWell positioned, even limited to roads, a laser would be capable of cheaply shooting down plenty of cheap drones or even missiles that are just forced to pass by.>>64211116>A single tomahawk cruise missile is going to...be intercept by anti-missile missile defense that are cost-effective against tomahawk.Supposing the laser isn't good enough to shot down the tomahawk (in time). It's not like the tomahawk is going to be a stealth ninja hiding in the grass on approach.The US actually tried to make flying lasers and hoped to also hit LEO satellites.As technology evolve I think we will have laser capable of reaching more than far enough.Being able to disable enemy satellites without creating debris, while they are stuck with anti-sat missiles that would shit out debris, would be an impressive geostrategic weapon.You could do so without starting a full war.While they can't do so without angering all their allies and endangering their own stuff.Not saying those chinese laser truck are the kind used for anti-sat weapon.
>>64211459>capable of killing satellite,Lmao>2.2 MW of continuous power>tries to kill a satellite>dies>satellite undamaged
>>64211076>haha bigger lens better!China stronk props for internal consumption of bugmen.
>shoot down isr drone>operator now knows your position >they send a dozen mlrs rockets and attack drones your way>congrats you just traded a multi million dollar laser for a hundred dollar fpv toy
>>64211077>blue screen of death
>>64211520>First drone 100$>Dozen MLRS and Attack drones, pricelessMastercard or something
>>64211520>>they send a dozen mlrs rockets and attack drones your way>intercept them all because that's what your laser is built for and you planned for that>congrat you just defeated hundred thousands dollars of mlrs and drones at the cost of electricityDo you also believe you can get close enough and destroy all other anti-missiles system that way?
Fitting that the bug vehicle is just as disgusting and sovless as the bugs that will use it
>>64211076I'd love to see these thing try do to a u-turn
>>64211132Nah I think it's both. It would have a simpler truck display. Just look at the their other laser platforms. The Stryker is struggling with its laser performance because of its size. Largely these are immobile. These aren't replacing anything but instead are just being added to another weapon (and cost effective) for air defense.
>>64211657You mean the French and their Rafale?
>>64211076I drew something like that too around 3 years agoI did not post it thoI wonder how effective it is?
>>64211739>I'd love to see these thing try do to a u-turnIsn't that what the rotating turret is for?
>>64211076>Personally i think it looks pretty coolKinda boxy. I miss Boxy.
>>64211076I know it's technically a war crime or whatever, but what would happen to someone if they got blasted with a laser like this/HELIOS for even just a tenth of a second? Would it fuck them up or would it just be a really bad sunburn
>LY-1pretty obvious
>>64213532>>LY-1>pretty obvious
>>64211076Looks fake as shit like everything else from chyna lol
I love how sinophobe americans are implying lasers are too high tech for china when china produces all industrial grade lasers in circulation
>>64213640>when china produces all industrial grade lasers in circulation>this is what chinks believethat would be the Baltics mr chong
>>64213386Why are you mentioning the rafale?Still masturbating over your fantasy propaganda victory?>b-but it was shot downAnd there’s no proof it was done by chinkshit.
>>64213640China is the world’s final assembly bitch and rare-earth mineral bitchPart of china’s implessive industry is just them counting all construction projects as industryPart is cheapass plastic mold injection and cheapass stamped metal partsPart of it is destroying their own watertable to supply the world with rare earth minerals that are then turned into useful highly technical components elsewhereAnd part of it is them importing those difficult to produce, technical components and doing final assembly of them by cheap slave labour (since the vast majority of the country is still poorfags)Does this mean china doesn’t have any genuinely implessive stuff produced in-house? No.But chinkshill’s tendency to pretend that china is “the world’s factory” and they must be producing everything for everyone on earth is misguided wolf-warrior cope.They play a key part in the global economy but not key enough that they aren’t replaceable, xi seems to have forgotten about that.
>>64211076Implessive. I'm sure it actually works just like everything else they show off!
>>64213665You sound mad as hell broIts almost 2026 and you are still coping over China's superior industrial base with some XX century tier rethoric Not everything is produced in China but high powered lasers are pretty much all from china and compared to the USA's industrial output ? Lol , I live in France I can assure you only sell pistaches here
>>64213693>i sound madYou’re projecting your own anger onto me
>>64213655Oh no, oh I don't dare to admit it, oh how can my Rafale fighter be so disgusting and sovless. Fake news!
>>64213693lol truly just not connected to the real world. Enjoy France when you make it back there. Ps NTA
>>64211418Chink shills are runing this board, yes
>>64213640>sinophobe americansGo back. Everyone including the burgers hates chinks here.
>>64213854*ruining
>>64213854>Image of Implessive Chiner machinery >Simplistic passive aggressive OPFTID OP question 'Why does everyone hate chinkshills?'
>>64213866I know this is rhetorical but really it’s super easy to hate them. Trash country with trash values and the only redeeming factor is they take our food scraps to make temu phone cases. How can we survive?? It’s okay their “very real” 6th gens will end us soon after their hypersanics end our ships who for some reason never move.
>>64211459>Lasers can have extreme range, capable of killing satelliteonly blinding them temporarily like a laser pointer
>>64211530lel
>>64211459>You could do so without starting a full war.No you couldn't. What on earth makes you think you could?>While they can't do so without angering all their allies and endangering their own stuff.Their stuff is already endangered by them being disabled by your anti-satellite lasers. Therefore the only course is orbital M.A.D.
>>64211520>they send a dozen mlrs rockets and attack drones your wayBy the time they arrive the platform has moved. GG
>>64213640America makes the only lasers in the world that can be used in ASML's lithography machines. China can't manufacture them because they don't know how. They're top secret and just as integral to the process as Zeiss Lenses.
>>64211076Looks like a tomahawk cruise missile would delete an entire column of these because they're essentially just giant battery banks with a laser on top. Even an APKWS II would delete one of these if it wasn't actively scanning for threats. It probably has about 40 minutes of run time.
>>64211103probably has to be for the generator
>>64211076I'm surprised at the weight thats going to be 30-40 tonnes of vehicle. Some sort of huge capacitor bank or stupid cooling requirements maybe cryogenic. Why isn't it light this shits supposed to be light
>>64211103>it's only going to be effective out to a few km before its power is reduced by atmospheric distortion.This is old news. Lasers when used correctly with pulses can sort of 'tunnel' through the atmospheric disturbance and have effectively LoS range. It's more complicated than just pulsing but that's the basic idea anyway. And this is for getting through actual fog and bad weather, on a clear day lasers are completely fine as long as they're in the right wavelength (400-550nm).This laser shit gets real in the next few decades at most, potentially far sooner if the US gets spooked enough to actually start doing real engineering again.
>>64213824kinda pointless seethe reply there son, you had nothing to say.
>>64213891Satellites are extremely fragile and can't afford any armor. China already demonstrated the ability to kill one from the ground.>>64213996>No you couldn't. What on earth makes you think you could?Do you think the US would start WWIII even against a non-nuclear country just for a satellite?Russia destroyed big drones without more than a stern warning, they tested their old ASAT, generating fucktons of debris without much heat.Supposing for a moment the US didn't also invest in laser ASAT (I bet their reusable drone was used to test the laser on it)If they shot back a satellite with missile-type ASAT they'd look weak and annoy their allies, risking doing more damage to themselves than their enemy did.Given the POTUS he would even boast "meh, we have so much better rocket now, so many satellites, it's barely noticeable!" then he'd do something "scary" to look like strong.Only a counter-attack with the same kind of cleaner anti-space weapon would do. And no doubt the US has anti-sat laser project somewhere.
>>64213854insecure and very miserable muttcels like you who try to backseat mod everyone into hating le axis of evil like yourself are what's ruining this board. it's pretty fucking hilarious because your little mini glowbot spergouts are like a microcosm of what's happening on the global geopolitical scale with the sphere of influence shifting to China because everyone is fed up with burgerstan's antics.
>>64211076Looks okay I guess. I'm not sure why they had to copy the APC from Aliens, though. Also am I really going to have to wait 2 minutes before every post? I'm outside right now so not on a Wi-Fi network and I just posted in another thread 30 seconds ago.
>>64215115>he says, sperging outBark for me hapa mutt
>>64213655https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/how-pakistan-shot-down-indias-cutting-edge-fighter-using-chinese-gear-2025-08-02The J-10s shot down at least one Rafale, Reuters reported in May, citing U.S. officials. Its downing surprised many in the military community and raised questions about the effectiveness of Western military hardware against untested Chinese alternatives.
>>64218606>butthurt chinky bumping his shill thread again Grim
>>64218641insane how he always does it when it's on the verge of getting bumped off the catalog
>>64211076>Personally i think it looks pretty cool
every god damn day we have retarded chinks with their retarded chink threads
>>64218755take your morning meds shlomo
>>64218765chyna numba won, xink ping pong
>>64211076Looks cool. I hope someone eventually figures out a way to make them fit on tanks chassis.
Is there any reason the laser turret itself is white instead of painted in a camo scheme like the rest of the vehicle?
>>64218833It's their version of Helios so it's supposed to go on ships >>64211132
>>64211076Am I retarded for liking the look of the truck? Cause I feel retarded for liking it, anyway since we are talking lasers I recently found out that the Australians have made their own anti-drone laser system called the fractl:2. Supposedly it’s able to knock out drones moving 100kph up to 2 kilometres away and has enough power in it’s battery pack for 50 shots, but the engineers are a bit squirrelly about the possibility of unintentional blindings. Still I think it looks neat.>>64211530Kek
>>64211076>Completely amoral objective tactical opinion incoming that does not represent Norktards personal beliefs in how to wage warIf you had a dozen of these and were capable of building or buying them then the most effective way best to them would be as siege weapons in a war of extermination against a weaker foe. Golan heights, a raised position in a desert, attacking Seoul, ect. Anywhere you can have a line of sight to the offending population center. You besiege a city or enemy position from an entrenched position and just permanently blind anyone who even looks in your general direction. That is all they need to do and honestly i think that is the PRCs true intended use. Imagine the the first battle of Grozny but half the population no longer has functioning eyes. Imagine that if any insurgent even looks at your position they get blinded forever. It goes beyond that: I bet they are real good at making fires. Wooden house a few miles away? On fire. Dry season and some brush of even forest a few miles away? On fire. Refugees? On fire. Shouldn't have been the idiot trying to flee from this thing wearing a 50/50 cotton/poly blend. On fire. I think that too much thought has been put into these systems as anti drone/anti missile systems and not enough thought has been devoted into how to protect humans from having themselves rendered non living human viable by them, especially unwanted populations of civilians.
>>64211076I see optics have no protection covers.Big mistake. During use and transportation they would be quickly covered with dust and insects and erode. They need remotely activated covers.
>>64218938As a added note: After they sold the DPRK a few blinding lasers i think the best thing the PRC has even done is sign the Convention against their use. I don't believe the PRC for a moment that they will respect that, it is worth noting that after a few 'incidents' the DPRK has despite not being a signatory. While i'm ranting, treaties the DPRK isn't a member of for any practical purpose:>Nuclear arms proliferation (duh!)>The ICC>Chemical weapons treaty. That's a big one. They have the largest and only operational and sustainable large scale chemical weapons ability on earth.>Blinding lasers treaty.They do disavow biological weapons (they would blowback on them and much like Iran views chemical weapons they have cultural aversion due to past victimization) and mostly follow the Geneva convention in terms of POWS in the WW2 Japanese definition of it i.e they will feed and house POWs as well as the average DPRK soldier in times of conflict. To sum up, they are a nation with 150+ years of PTSD armed with nucleal weapons, the world largest stockpile af chemical weapons and currently are the single biggest producer of artillery shells and rockets on earth. As a people they really need a hug and a sympathetic friend, i believe Trump can give that to them.Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
>>64218986I just bought i telescope from 1959 at a yard sale and i know that, the lenses need covers when not in use.
>>64214042Cooling capacity actually is much larger gating for lasers then power supply. People stupidly sperg about "muh power supply". But modern hybrid power solutions can easily satisfy vehicles lasers power requirements.While cooling is tricky. On car engine coolant is 95C, that allows to cool it with just an air radiator, that can move enormous amount of heat through it.While modern fiber lasers require cooling water with temperature about 27C. You can't cool it with air radiator you need chiller (basically refrigerator for water) and these things have massively larger weight, volume and power requirements than radiotors for same amount of heat moved.
>>64211076Reminds me of the Soviet Union's most mighty weapon.
TLULY IMPLESSIVE
>>64219003>>64218986Seriously, all you need to do is cover them with thin kitchen plastic wrap then shrink it with a hair drier, it that so hard to do to protect the lenses? It's like how you can tell the guys who are operating a tank know what they are doing because they taped a piece of paper over the muzzle.>>64219006This anon is giving real knowledge, unfortunately most will be fools and respond to this idiot:>>64219010>>64219009In it's time that wasn't a bad idea at least as a experimental system, you have to start somewhere. Also see my above posts, a few of those would have been useful in the Chechen Wars if Russia had any balls.
>>64211076Chinkbros?: defence-blog.com/saudi-military-slams-chinese-laser-weapon/
>>64219087oof, i remember threads about this being spammed as the final rise of chinese MIC. instead down it goes the way of chink military drones.
What is the point of these threads when China will just lie about the capabilities and the weapons will never see war anyways? How can you discuss something without actual parameters? How can you discuss something made in a shithole that puts water in their missiles?
>>64219190well you see thing new plywood mockup means America is finally finished and all those bitter tankies demoralized by the self-inflicted demolition of russia will now get to enjoy their new world order in all its starving, forced labor glory... soon. any time now.
>>64211150The problem with lasers is that they're essentially "kill me, I'm here" weapons, even more than active radar. Just follow the beams.>inb4 ER medium pulse lasersYou need to keep the beam locked onto the target for quite a long time. Not easy if the target is small and moving around.
>>64215115Vely good post.
>>64219190>>64219205Why don't you boys stop fighting and just kiss each other already?
>>64211103DEATH GOMPLE/10
>>64219472A sufficiently good laser (so probably not these but maybe one or two generations from now at most) doesn't care though because you can't get to it except with a kinetic (tank main gun). Tanks beat laser batteries beat everything else beat tanks. An unironic combat triangle. The tank doesn't want to advance into contested airspace because it's easily defeated by missiles, but the tank is the only thing that can feasibly dispatch the laser and therefore allow its own airforce into play.
>>64219578the feerings of chinese people got hurt i see
>>64219087Apparently its because the sistem wasnt design for extreme heat enviorments, so it has to spend a long time cooling down, and is also affected by sand and other shit in the air.But the saudis apparently liked the EW component of the system
>>64211076A bit to rectangular for my tastes
>>64211103Obviously this is not the final iteration of the system. And even a low clearance oversized truck like this could work just fine to protect urban areas. Assuming the system works.
>>64215115/k/ mutts are insanely mindbroken in regards to china. More delulu than vatniggers.
>>64220558No really, do you search for any mention of china to seethe impotently about? Did you just clock in, hapa mutt?
>>64218893i think it looks cool too, kinda like a stretch limo version of the Aliens APC.
>>64220558the bit that gets me rolling is that this barely startedmutts will go insane with cope over the next decade
>>64219010Why is there a single frame of some thing sitting in a green shower booth? Some subliminal advertising attempt?
>>64214021This is what happens when you get your education from 4 chan.No, Cymer doesn’t have a monopoly on KrF lasers. Or really ArF for that matter.
>>64211076It's a naval weapon, it's just mounted on that chassis to display it.
>>64211077>>64211082
Can someone tell me why there are so many Chinese comments on youtube and other websites? Especially when china doesn't allow access to that website? I suspect those government paid wumao shills...
>>64221041>he's so lonely he's talking to himself againthirdiemutt, you really need to call some sort of friend forming organisation, talking to yourself on 4ch is a bad coping mechanism.
>>64211076I like the US version more
>>64218938Now forget about putting them on a ground unit, and put them instead on a loitering high-endurance airborne platform, firing down. Park over city, remove mobile bipeds, city depopulated in a few days.
>>64211076Everyone shits on China but u can't deny they are on a massive come up while US is more nogrified by the day
