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Remember the Fire Point guys who made Flamingo cruise missile? They are announcing that they will be building ballistic missiles and air defense systems now, in addition to what they are doing now.
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>>64214435
https://militarnyi.com/en/news/flamingo-missiles-manufacturer-announces-development-of-fp-7-and-fp-9-ballistic-missiles-air-defense-systems/
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>>64214435
I cant wait for ukes to just eat the turkish, russian, chinese, and israeli arms market shares alive after this conflict lmao
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>>64214435
>ziggers say ukies are gay nazis
>ukies build pink V-1s
I'm waiting for flesh-colored V-2s with realistic veins airbrushed on.
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>>64214472
Its just the yankee doodle feedback loop
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>>64214435
good luck with that, yuzhmash couldn't do it but a startup with janky products will
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>>64214435
>ballistic missiles
so, V-2 rockets with a FAB-500 warhead?
>air defense systems
so, radar-laid VT-fuzed Bofors 40mms but maybe with rocket engines?

>>64214449
I respect their macgyver missiles but let's not get ahead of ourselves here
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>>64214593
Bruh, that's exactly why they can - because they are not some retarded gay soviet MIC factory, which is accustomed to sitting on its hands for a decade before something is partially made. Ballistic missiles are unironically simple shit. The only complex part is precision and stable characteristics. Both can be achieved in an agile development process fairly easily.
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>>64214593
Considering that their drones are used make up a substantial portion of deep strikes on russian infrastructure, I wouldn't be such a doomer.
>>64214605
>so, V-2 rockets with a FAB-500 warhead?
>so, radar-laid VT-fuzed Bofors 40mms but maybe with rocket engines?
If it works, does it matter? FPV interceptors are arguably quite stupid, but they take out recon and strike drones quite alight.
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>>64214435
>Day 1,287 of the Special De-cartelization Operation
>SEDENA subsidiary Orto Inflamado announces that in addition to their Mudkip cruise missile, they will be building ballistic missiles and air defenses
>Meanwhile the US has lost most of its B-52 fleet
>Virtually all of its modern tank inventory
>American troops are currently sending human waves on motorcycles in an effort to capture Chihuahua, but they are stalled out in Jimenez.
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>>64214643
>not naming missiles after DBZ characters
false beaner confirmed
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>>64214643
these kind of jokes never sounded funny to me because i never considered russia to be anywhere close in power to usa. but reading through russian copes for 3 years made me realize that they actually do think they're somewhat equal to usa in power. which made these jokes kinda funny.
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>>64214649
The joke is that it's an unintended name. Mexico would probably name it some Nahua shit like tlauhquecholli, which is how you would say Flamingo, but Mexico has axolotls and Mudkips are still a meme in my mind.
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>>64214677
Fair, i do leik them, but you just know a mexican wunderwaffel would get called a vegeta or some such shit
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>>64214681
I would hope so. Vegeta was my favorite.
https://youtu.be/5bcCFNptDJY
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>>64214435
>the Fire Point guys who made Flamingo cruise missile
But they didn't. Flamingo are Milanion kits that Ukraine puts together.
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>>64214677
>>64214681
>tfw in your mind Mudkip is the newcomer and when people say "O.G. starters" you think of Squirtle and Bulbasaur
>meanwhile streamers refer to Mudkip as oen of the "O.G. starters"
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>>64214707
Okay, first of all, fuck you for that, and second of all, I'm going go contemplate in a brooding fashion the meaning of life and the finality of death. Fuck you, anon.
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>>64214649
Can you imagine american arms production facilities jobbing to Bejita-class ballistic missiles?
Hope the ukie one will get a retarded name as well, just for extra humiliation for POCCNR
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>>64214707
Its weird how readily young me accepted johto and then turned around to reject hoenn.
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>>64214435
Top speed is kinda low for a ballistic missile, but let's not pretend it won't wreck zigger rubbish defenses anyway.
It all comes down to whether the company can produce them for cheap in high quantity lile the Flamingo.
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>>64214727
I hope it will a really stupid bird name, like "Snihyr" (bullfinch), "Kvak" (ruff) or "Svysh" (wigeon)
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>>64214593
they aren't making them
they're european made
this is how they get around the, "we aren't supplying ukraine with the weapons" deal, i.e., what cowards do
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>>64214706
>>64214780
Can you prove it or are you just seething?
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>>64214706
Yeah, that's why "Milanion's" product has a Fire Point product naming scheme kek
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>>64214818
>>64214802
Again, retards. They're kits. They're not providing the warhead, they're providing the kit and designs to slap an engine and GPS on a glide bomb and slap a FAB-500 to it. They're bodykits. It's away to get around 'escalation' accusations.

But don't believe my words, go look up the FP-5 cruise missile and compare it to the Flamingo and go and look up how Fire Point and Milanion have been working together since 2021. Purely coincidental, of course.
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>>64214722
lol came as a shock to me too

>>64214737
newsflash, anon, people love Hoenn for good reason even with all the kvetching about too much water and type imbalances and physical-special split
the back-to-nature design and plot is just comfy as hell
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>>64214838
>go look up the FP-5 cruise missile
>and compare it to the Flamingo
My brown friend, "Flamingo" _is_ FP-5. More than that, the FP prefix indicates "Fire Point".
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>>64214854
You're a retard.

https://defensetalks.com/idex-2025-milanion-group-sees-rising-demand-for-fp-5-cruise-missile-and-magia-swarm-intelligence-systems/

https://armyrecognition.com/news/aerospace-news/2025/milanion-captures-global-attention-with-its-new-fp-5-cruise-missile-and-magia-swarm-intelligence-system-at-idex-2025

https://vpk.name/en/979070_milanions-large-fp-5-cruise-missile.html

Read this for a break down

https://x.com/sumnjam/status/1957327853541851376
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>>64214854
>brown friend
irony. even i can do a 30 second google search.
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>it's another round of "NOOO CUMRAG THESE PIG FARMERS CANNOT DEVELOP OWN WEAPONS, IS OF PERFIDIOUS ANGLO-SAXON CREATION!!!" metodichka
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>>64214879
>linking a russian website
>linking some shitskin on twitter
bruh, please
Fire Point developed and made its own stuff since 2022, the cruise missile in question was developed before 2025.
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>guy provides links proving that Milanion made it and displayed it at IDEX
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T PROVE ME WRONG NOOOOOOOOOOO
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>FP-5 missile is Flamingo
Bruh, Flamingo is just a trade name, the model number is literally FP-5, the FP as in "F"ire "P"oint. Similarly to the FP-1 drones made by Fire Point.
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>>64214901
>>64214894
What part of 'they showed it at IDEX' do you not get?

LOOK.
FUCKING.
HERE.

LOOK.
AT.
THE.
FUCKING.
DISPLAY.

IT.
SAYS.
FP-5.
AND.
MILANION.
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>>64214910
SEE >>64214913 YOU FUCKING RETARD. WHAT PART OF THE SIGN SAYING "FP-5" and "MILANION" DO YOU NOT FUCKING GET?
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>>64214913
My brown friend, Milanion (a company which doesn't even have a page in Wikipedia kek) just markets Fire Point's missile to foreign markets. The missile was developed before IDEX.
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>retards getting btfo by autism anon proving them wrong by providing evidence, not fee fees
lmao, funny watching /k/ get btfo by people so easily
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>>64214921
>samefagging
For shame
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>>64214920
Yeah man, they need to totally have a wiki page for it to be legit

https://milaniongroup.com/
Doesn't count!
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12951650/officers
Official UK government registered company? Doesn't count! NO WIKI PAGE!

As for your cope on 'marketing' yeah sure, Ukraine, a country at war, is going to be selling its long range strike systems because erm... erm... IT JUST IS OK????

>>64214931
I don't need to samefag. You can just be wrong. You've gone from
>NO FP MEANS FIRE POINT
to
>OKAY THAT COMPANY EXISTS AND YOU'VE PROVEN BEYOND DOUBT THAT THEY WERE ADVERTISING IT
to
>WELL THEY'RE JUST SELLING IT BECAUSE ERRRR BECAUSE ERRRR THEY JUST ARE OK???

Ukraine isn't going to be selling its only long range strike system to the foreign fucking market. Ignoring as I said in my original post that Milanion and Fire Point signed a memorandum to work together in 2021, you're literally stating that Ukraine would SELL its equipment while fighting an existential war? LMAO.
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>>64214941
>Official UK government registered company? Doesn't count! NO WIKI PAGE!
My neighbor has an official UK government registered company which he uses to sell soviet-tier bullshit to sandniggers, your point?
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>>64214931
lol. you said that FP made the missile and the guy provided a picture where it is advertised as 'milanion FP-5' in two different images and you're actually trying to argue that it is just them 'selling it' you don't put the 'sellers' name first in advertising, you put the manufacturer.
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>>64214941
Stop stop he's already dead.gif

Just kidding
Continue tearing him a new one
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>>64214948
So you're just ignoring they're a multinational company and ignore their official website, but what you really want is a user submitted wiki page where they accept sources such as 'army recognition com' as proof? Fuck off retard. I've literally provided you multiple images showing that the product is called "Milanion FP-5". Note the key word there is MILANION. You've moved the goalpost and changed what your argument is three fucking times and now you've decided to die on your hill that this is somehow not a real company because they don't have a fucking wikipedia page.

I accept your concession. I have a limited amount of energy for retards who decide to stubbornly fight when they know they've lost and just hope that other anons don't see your posts and call you out. I've provided evidence, including websites and IDEX images showing it is called the Milanion FP-5 and your proof is.... Your feelings and there is no wikipedia page so it's not true. OK.

SO we're done here.
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>>64214941
>You've gone from
Nobody has gone nowhere, faggot. Cool it with your delusions.
1. Fire Point is an established company, it has products which are all named with the FP- prefix. The FP-5 missile is yet another Fire Point product. It was developed back in 2024. This is an objective fact.
2. I don't know who the Milanion people are, but they aren't that well known, and not having a basic bitch page in Wikipedia is a good indicator of this. Them being registered in UK doesn't prove shit. Anyone can register a company there.
3. For what it's worth, Milanion could very well be just some ukie shell company, used to present themselves as a more serious UK one for foreign clients, which is a common thing to do in business.
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>>64214951
>you don't put the 'sellers' name first in advertising, you put the manufacturer.
Bruh... bruh... what is ODM, what is OEM. Half of your HP, Acer and Dell laptops are designed and manufactured by other companies like Compal, Quanta and Foxconn.
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>>64214841
Its a good base for romhacks, but im still kinda eh on hoenn. The phys spec split needed to happen that gen. I do remember many car rides of just running a loop around it, never really finding anything new but kinda expecting something to happen.
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>>64214959
>and ignore their official website
The website which doesn't even show the product in question outside the initial press PDF, right?
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>>64214959
>>64214963
Maybe I'm just a faggot but I think you kinda both have points. On the one hand milanion advertised the same missile before Ukraine announced it being in production. So maybe it is them sending kits and domestic production is just a "little white lie" for political reasons. On the other hand Ukraine is doing other stuff like making a deal with Denmark to make solid fuel for the FP-5, perhaps the ukie company actually stood up milanion as a UK based hub for working on or even producing kits of the FP-5 somewhere a safe distance from the front where they could get lots of local assistance with the program. Might explain why milanion(based on what I'm seeing) has put effectively zero effort into selling their cruise missiles design or even advertising their company in general. Who knows, we may not ever get clarification on that.
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>>64214435
>year 4 of the 3 day special military operation
>the Russian army has run out of tanks and IFVs
>Moscow is getting bombed by Ukranian ballistic missiles
Whew....that was not on my bingo card for 2026
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>>64215009
>Denmark to make solid fuel for the FP-5
it's not for the FP-5 (it uses standard off the shelf boosters), it's for the newly announced ballistic missiles from Fire Point
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Have any of you looked at Milanion's website? They're a brands group and they don't even have munitions listed as one of their products
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>>64214768
>I hope it will a really stupid bird name, like "Snihyr"
>snowy
>Snowy the Missile
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>>64215331
You're obviously looking at the wrong website
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>>64215455
Can you post it? The one I found does autonomous systems and mortar ammunition. A subsidiery of the same name does a few more autonomous vehicles and a mortar carrier
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>>64215009
>Ukraine is doing other stuff like making a deal with Denmark to make solid fuel for the FP-5
Flamingo uses a domestically produced jet engine. Online autists already identified it as the Albatross engine before this "body kit" cope emerged.
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>>64216253
Flamingo uses a solid rocket booster for the initial start, like most ground launched missiles. But yeah, it uses an off the shelf one. The Denmark production story is about making solid rocket fuel for the newly announced ballistic missiles.
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>>64215331
>they don't even have munitions listed as one of their products
>>64216224
>mortar ammunition

>mortar ammo is not munitions
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>>64216406
I meant heavy munitions like missiles, bom s and the like. 120mm mortar is barely ordnance
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>>64214951
>you don't put the 'sellers' name first in advertising, you put the manufacturer
This is the most retarded thing I have read in this thread so far.

FP == Fire Point. FP-XX - Fire Point's naming scheme. Milanion markets the Fire Point's FP-5 missile abroad. End of discussion.
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>ITS NOT UKRAINIAN ITS ALL WESTERN
>it’s just that engine, warhead, targeting are Ukrainian and westerners provide empty steel case
What kind of logic is that???
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>>64219399
the deep belief in russian culture is that other nations within their empire, including ukies and belarusians, are just dumb provincial hillbillies, someone to do simple manual labor for the imperial core and who can't do anything by themselves without the guiding hand of the empire
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>>64215009
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12951650/filing-history
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/uryPw-XnkwEOfWcxmCOii6H6btc/appointments
>The owner and his family have gone through single-owner companies like toilet paper in the defense and tech consulting spaces
>Consistently seem to be carrying heavy debt, re-incorporate to transfer physical assets
>Total assets as of 2022 and 2023: £4,000, liabilities £30,000
>Street address is over an auto shop next to the Sainsbury's, no manufacturing facilities
This company did not develop the missile. They're almost certainly just someone Fire Point hired to put up a booth for them; most of the other weapons listed on their site are produced by a UAE company that announced a "partnership" with Milanion in 2024 for an arms expo. See:
https://mntgs.com/news/
All *their* facilities are in Spain and the UAE.
So 100% not a Bong weapon, just a shell company to let Saudis (and presumably Ukes) market hardware in the UK from a local adress.
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>>64219409
>to let Saudis (and presumably Ukes) market hardware in the UK from a local adress
It's not to market stuff in UK, it's to market stuff internationally as a "company from a respected jurisdiction", a pretty typical thing to do. Sometimes for PR sake itself, sometimes to avoid bullshit laws in actual jurisdictions. You'd be surprised how many retarded soviet-tier laws still exist in Ukraine (and other countries), which make doing international business a nightmare. So going to register a UK company (which often involved just paying someone in UK to register a company in their name) is a common foolproof thing to do.
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>>64219417
Makes sense. But yeah, this guy is paradoxically just shady and broke enough to be the kind of perpetual hustler who'd take that kind of deal, and just legit enough that the company doesn't obviously glow. He's been doing this kinda shit for a LONG time and seems to be doing a damned good job of paying himself all the money that isn't going to his office rent.
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>>64219409
you seem to be right

>>64219417
yep, super common
investors are much happier with the stricter audit and exchange rules of certain jurisdictions (US, UK, Singapore) than others (Cyprus, Shanghai)
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>>64219438
Bruh, if only you knew how keked things are IRL in this sense. Some people I know also had UK companies created for business dealings. The people registering those companies often register dozens of companies in their names and then relinquish control of them to those who'd pay them. So imagine some random Creative Crumpets LLP registered by some random Joe Bloggs in UK and then used for import and export operations for a decade before being discarded. Then a few years go by and that Joe Bloggs gets into a list of sanctioned individuals because companies registered by him were also involved in some shady dealings by corrupt ukie officials of Yanukovich era and even some russian faggots.

>>64219467
Sometimes it's even more simple that that, e.g. local ukie laws are retarded and you can't go and just pay money to your supplier in China or Europe without the local ukie tax office getting up in your face, as in "hurr-durr you're moving money out of the jurisdiction to avoid taxes, hurr-durr where is the proof that you've actually paid for production? no, your contract isn't proof, if paid products don't reach you in 15 days we'll open up a criminal case against you" - lmao, 15 days, do these people know how much time shipping takes?!. So it's easier to have an UK company (or a company from some other western jurisdiction), operating as a de-facto subsidiary, pay your supplier in China or Europe without all that bullshit. Similar stuff to receive money as well. Local law might say "hurr-durr you're obliged to sell the foreign currency revenue you've received withing X days", while you want to keep it in foreign currency because you of currency stability reasons and because you'll use that revenue to pay to your foreign suppliers soon. Thus you'll get an UK company, with a bank account in Cyprus or something and use that as middleman to avoid the local bullshit laws.
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>>64219484
It's a common practice, yeah
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>>64214435
Jesus Christ just rush more flamingos and finish off those drunkards!
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>>64214435
Looks like my latest KSP creation
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>>64219484
>registered by some random Joe Bloggs in UK and then used for import and export operations for a decade before being discarded. Then a few years go by and that Joe Bloggs gets into a list of sanctioned individuals because companies registered by him were also involved in some shady dealings
It surprises me that people still fall for shit like that
But then I presume Joe doesn't actually bear liability and gets a slap on the wrist after explaining his way out?
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>>64219409
Milanion is a UAE-British company but the original anon was pointing out it wasn't a Fire Point weapon, because it wasn't, because FP-5 was out before Ukraine announced they were making it. Doesn't matter if it is UAE or Bong, it isn't a Ukrainian weapon. At best it is a joint developed weapon.
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>>64220732
If it isn't ukranian than whos is it? Milanion doesn't have it or anything like it listed as one of their products. The closest thing they have is a brazilian rocket artillery system they helped market/develop
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>>64220732
>because FP-5 was out before Ukraine announced they were making it
My brown friend, ukies officially presented it when it was already in production for some time. It was developed back in 2024, before the Milanion's press release.
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>>64220732
A brochure came out, not a weapon. The site has been saying it'll be "available soon (tm) for interested customers" since it went online. The missile only exists in Ukraine, with a large-scale mockup showing up at a couple of armament industry shows that bears notable differences from the production weapon. Like not having the jet engine installed. I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a 3D printed shell with a nice coat of resin to make it look smooth and pretty. The subscale mockup proves literally nothing
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>>64220677
I don't want to critique how someone else plays a game, but that's real basic - try to stretch your creativity a little, see if you can get comparable dV/payload with more interesting designs.
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>>64214727
>Bejita-class ballistic missiles
Add a device that makes them scream “AAAAAAIIIIIEEEEE” as they fly by.
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Kek at all the zigger panicking ITT. The fact that the Ukies, the poorest European nation, is even developing new weapons under extremely challenging circumstances, is a slap to the zigger reality distortion field that they peddle to their domestic media. They know that once the rockets arrive, they can't hide the truth. It matters not who made the weapons, only that the ukies CAN USE THEM WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. I'll start digging bunkers if I'm a Muscovite Zigger.
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>>64214472
>Pink missiles
Only one option: American Kirby. Poyo motherfuckers!
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>>64221033
The fact that "Milanion's" weapon for some reason uses Fire Point's product naming scheme kinda indicates that Milanion was actually announcing Fire Point's product.
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>>64222515
It unfathomable to them, that those "fucking swine herders" perhaps aren't as backwards as they might assume.
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>>64222515
pic rel explains a lot
the muscovite cannot bear former colonies try to drag themselves out of the dirt. some more successful than others, the baltics for example. but regardless, that the people actually try and WANT things to change for the better — that simply scares the muscovite.
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>>64225206
It really says something about the vatnik mentality when they get upset about this shit. They always ask "Who ALLOWED them (baltics, poles, etc) to live these lives of luxury far beyond the means of the average russian???"
The russians have been so completely mindbroken by centuries of dictatorial rule and serfdom that they genuinely only understand master-slave dynamics, actual democracy is beyond them.
In their minds there are always master and slaves, friendship and mutually beneficial relationships don't exist to them, it's nothing but abuse and exploitation.
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>>64225238
>Who ALLOWED them (baltics, poles, etc) to live these lives of luxury far beyond the means of the average russian???
Oh boy, there's a whole iceberg behind this culture and psychology. The highlights are:
- overwhelming debilitating paternalism, as in people generally aren't independent in their lives and should be, everything is controlled in a top-down way;
- this weird type of collectivism, which somehow mixes with being atomized, as in people will gladly view themselves as being part of the regime (in an "us vs them" shit), even if the regime didn't care for them once and didn't provide anything, yet at the same they won't care about their compatriots, neighbors, friends, relatives and even direct family members;
- a deeply seated view of the world as a zero sum game, i.e. if someone else has something then that obviously means that you don't have it and thus you were robbed of it, hence the nigger-tier ass blasted reaction to other countries "living good", since "hurr-durr they've stole this from us";
- a deep level of cynicism that you wouldn't even believe to be possible, this is partially how the RU psyche allows them to handle their doublethink-tier bullshit, but also allows them to cope that they aren't fucked up, since "ACKshually everyone else is also fucked up like that, they just hide it better" (one of the basis of so-called reverse cargo cult);
1/2
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>>64225238
cont >>64225344
- retarded chauvinism, specifically against non-titular ethnicities of what they consider their birthright empire (which yes includes poles and fins, among others), but not limited to them;
- building on top of this, there's also the whole "gibs me dat" approach of trying to appropriate any results as their own results, it doesn't matter what, "Stalker? russian game", "Google? made by a russian" and so on;
- the whole master/slave dynamic which is viewed as not only natural, but the only possible way relations can exist, be it personal relations, international relations, business relations and so on;
- major chunks of asiatic face culture;

So yeah, imagine the sheer amount of ass blasting they get when they see a "broken off piece of the empire, those retarded subhuman savages" succeed with anything, no matter how small.
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bump
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>>64225206
I am American and my yard looks like the one on the right. Sitting outside and drinking in a yard like that is comfy as hell
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>>64228590
>I am American and my yard looks like the one on the right
You are brown
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>>64228590
How is living like a white nigger comfy?
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>>64228970
gibs & neetbux are comfy
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New Perun just dropped. Discussing Flamingo and other ground-launched cruise missiles.
https://youtu.be/XmQXxPANGaM
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>>64230777
>Still watching perun
Lol
Lmao



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