>>64218812
Yeah, they could start a war.

>>64218812
The Venezuelans don't have ASMs, HARMs, or even guided bombs. The US knows this and so does the captain of the Burke, so they're probably just waiting for them to fuck up and try a strafing run or something.

>>64218836
Implessive

>>64218836
>United Stateans

>>64218812
Read carefully OP: NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.

>>64218836
Good luck trying to strap chinese bombs onto a block 15 F-16 lmao
Besides that, the fuck does China have to do with any of this? You think they're retarded enough to arm the Venezuelans in America's backyard?

>>64218812
I see Venezuela also sent their entire navy to harass the Dunham.

>>64218852
>suicide bomber
>donns life vest
WDHMBT?

>>64218862
>militants
>allies
Tomato, tomatoe.

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>>64218836
Vely impleassive. Very ching khu lung

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>>64218862
Do something About it already pussy. You won't do shit

Let's say your the DEI captain hired to command the Jason Dunham. Which weapon systems would you use?

Personally, I would open the engagement with the 5 incher to down the first plane. Then as the other one flees send an ESSM up its tailpipe.

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>>64218862
>You think the United States can just arm militants in the Philippines and Taiwan and nothing would happen?
1) They're sovereign nations that we are allies with and 2) yeah, and the fuck are you gonna do about it? We deployed 1 (one) Burke and an LCS to the Spratlys after your little navy-coastguard whoopsie, why don't you come try ram those?
We're also restoring/building 5 new bases with the Flips as we speak.
Why don't you do the same with Taiwan? Didn't you say you were gonna bomb the place when Pelosi visited but couldn't even track her 737 with your implessive Type 55s because of 1 (one) Growler?

>>64218867
There are a few cases where Kamikaze pilots would miss and then ditch. They would also turn around if they couldn't find a target. However given the vast distances of the Pacific, they might not have the fuel to get back, again necessitating a ditch.

>>64218890
I would ask how you miss an entire destroyer, but then I realized they're ducking and weaving AA fire while trying to do it and it made a lot more sense.

>>64218895
Allied fleet defense was incredibly good by 1944-1945. So good it prompted the Kamikaze tactics to begin with. The Japs weren't exactly suicidal because on a rate basis, Kamikazes actually cost fewer lives per hit than traditional tactics.

Basically Japan was forced to invent the human guided cruise missile.

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>>64218812
soon :)

>>64218812
I bet the USN ship did not turn tail and run like the HMS Defender when Russian jets buzzed it

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>>64218812
>Realistically, could Venezuelan F-16s do anything to a Flight IIA Burke besides serve as target practice?
>Munitions used by Venezuelan F-16’s: AIM-9’s, Mk.82’s, Python-4’s and the humble M61A1
>could Venezuelan F-16s do anything to a Flight IIA Burke besides serve as target practice?
Besides >>64218852 answer, no. And even if they tried to do kamikaze with rum drinking characteristics all that happens is the F-16 getting smacked a hundred kilometres away from the ship

>>64218834
if fuckin houthis can get guided rockets from china, who says venezuelans can't?
Fuck, If I was Winnie-the-Pooh I'd sell them to them through third party like Iran than pretend I know nothing, just to stir shit up. Fuck, if I was Putler I'd do it too.

if they had the engineering to repurpose whatevwr ammunition,
They can just shoot it at the antenas and radars and its TK.
Which means it has to go back port

>>64218941
The difference is that this shit is right in Burgerland territory, not some shithole in the middle of the desert, so any attacks that are perceived at even coming close to the homeland will evoke a proportional response.

>>64218941
The entire south american continent fucking hates venezuela. Any greater power that stands by them would be making a trump tier mistake.

There is only room for one retard.

>>64218917
This time, islam isn't involved so people are actually psychologically capable of abandoning the dictator.

>>64218853
don't know what got deleted I assume chink shill, but why would it be impossible, if ukies can install western high-tech using some bootleg hax like strap on tablets on mig 29? I admit I know nothing on the topic.

Venezuelans better get their red shirts and Mosins ready

>>64218945
That’s based on a zigger narrative that the west arming Ukraine was an act of war against Russia due to proximity

What would really happen is China would be held accountable for human rights violations by arming a Venezuelan regime that puts its own people in death camps. The would would laugh at the CCP in the information space while bored lads casually their entire navy.

>>64218945
>>64218948
ok I just read the article and, holly shit, its almost like CBS doesn't hate Trump anymore. Still, if chinks can be behind selling fentanyl to US, they might as well try other provocative moves to undermine US influence in south America

>>64218950
I mean yeah it's not impossible but it probably won't work well considering the pakis have F-16s that they haven't even tried to put all of their Chinese kit on

>If you send weapons to venezuela we are going to Nook Nook. Oy Yey
Cant wait to see americas ukraine unfold before our eyed

>>64218963
Yeah that also, reason why I talked about homeland is because they are terrorists, puccian narrative or not

>>64218977
No one likes venezuela. No one. Being the country that helped protect venezuela would be like being the people to help out assad.

>>64218985
no one likes best korea either, yet here we are

>>64218812
thought that said the uss lena dunham

>>64218977
Genuinely retarded and brown you are.

>>64218948
>>>64218941
>The entire south american continent fucking hates venezuela. Any greater power that stands by them would be making a trump tier mistake.

Not by a long shot, my USA based beaner bros tell me the big hate among beaners is Colombians VS Mexicans, and its largely based on language diffs. Mexican tells a Colombian "I speak MEXICAN" and the Colombian tells him, "You speak broken Spanish" and they start yapping at each other in "spanish" like a couple little shit-dogs. :)

Remember a couple decades ago Hugo shamed USA but giving our old poor folks cheap heating oil when prices were spiking? Venezuela has done similar for automotive fuel for pretty much all Latin American, here and there. Brazil, the big player, is now under Leftist control, and thus friends with current Venezuelan regime. Argentina stooge appears to be crashing out.
>There is only room for one retard.
>>>64218917 (You)
>This time, islam isn't involved so people are actually psychologically capable of abandoning the dictator.
Correct, Islam ain't involved and Venezuelan defeat of US military wont be like 'Nam or Iraq or Afghan, or Houthie defeats of US military.

That will be largely because none of those defeats involved any ethnic/foreign language group with any presence among US population, much less any presence in US military.

Imagine if the platoon of "Generation Kill" was 1/2 various Arab Muslims, with their primary loyalty to Islam and their Arab families and clans. That is what deploying USMC to Venezuela will be like. :) I can't wait for the Big Order to cum down, "No Talking In Anything But English" because 1/2 the USMC is whispering to each other in Spanish and NCOs and officers don't know WTF half their troops are whispering about, but it sure as fuck ain't about being on Team America.

Its a well known thing Cartels send guys into US military to get training, and no one has been able to defeat the Cartel tactic of ruthlessly targeting families.

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>>64218977
>comparing Russia's unjustified and unprovoked invasion in violation of numerous humans rights accords and international democracy organizations to the US taking action to protect communities and uphold the rules based international order

Between btfoing narcos, the whole SBR and suppressor thing, and the recent shit with getting shipbuilding back on track I'm surprisingly pleased with orange man.
Now if only he would stop sucking monke's cock nonstop at every single opportunity.

>>64218977
This is so retarded lol

>>64219015
>Screen US soldiers to be deployed to South America, don't ship anyone who's got connections to the area
>There is no step 2
Wooowwww that was hard.
>Inb4 you try to say "bu-bu-buh 99% of the military speaks bean"
No.
Begone nigger.

>>64218977
Are you implying that Russia is not winning the 3 day SMO?
No rupee for you! Try again!

>>64219060
I'll never get the Trump sucking Putin thing. Do people really still believe the Steele Dossier hoax? Having a strategy beyond branded Biden's tepid support for Ukraine and ostracizing Putin from the globalist cool kids table doesn't make Trump as Russian asset.

>>64219085
It's very simple anon, you see, orange man bad.

>>64218922
Was that the incident where the warship just kept on sailing while ignoring rando warningshots from drunk russians?

>>64219066
>Screen US soldiers to be deployed to South America, don't ship anyone who's got connections to the area

25% of USMC CLAIMS to be Hispanic, so its really more like 40% (ask anyone).

No fucking way in hell US Govt (meaning a particular POTUS) is going to screen out a YUGE percent of a military unit based on them as a class suddenly considered traitors based on ethnic background.

If you think even a slight attempt to do something like would be politically possible in USA these days you are beyond lost.

Its actually much more likely the US Govt AKA uniparty would suddenly switch sides on Israel, like if Israel had some big political about face.

>>64218812
>US-built jets engaging each other in combat

This wasn't supposed to happen until the Second American Civil War arc of the timeline...

>>64219085
>Having a strategy beyond branded Biden's tepid support for Ukraine and ostracizing Putin from the globalist cool kids table doesn't make Trump as Russian asset.
Fair, its just that so far the "strategy" in question seems to be "hampering Ukraine on all fronts" and being played like a fiddle by Putin. Just how many deadlines will he present only for it to be casually ignored by Putler?

>>64219122
Did you miss F-35s bombing F-14s

>>64219015
>That is what deploying USMC to Venezuela will be like. :)
I’d think you’d be hard pressed to even get the Venezuelan marines to defect let alone the Mexicans or Puerto Ricans or some beaner dude born in Spokane. 9 times out of ten a spic in America is going to choose America over the commie shit hole

>>64219130

So far as I can tell, every single F-14 lost during the Iran-Israel War was destroyed on the ground. Not a single sortie flown by them. The destroyed aircraft in question may not have even been functional, just ones being cannibalized for spare parts.

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>>64219130
it belongs in a museum

>>64219113
All minorities are underrepresented in combat roles, but regardless there's unlikely to be many Venezuelans in the military. There are many other latin americans but they're for the most part incredibly racist towards each other, it wouldn't really be a big issue so long as they're not deployed to a country that has a large diaspora in the US

>>64219138
nazi pos

>>64219103
No, that was the cope that the UK government came up with after the fact though, only to be humiliated by their own BBC reporter who has been placed on the vessel :)

>>64219125
I'm going to say the quiet parts out loud. 1) No level of additonal sanctions is going to get Russia to the table
2) there isn't additional military assistance the U.S. can give without prompting counterveiling Chinese involvement
3) the Europeans are constantly waffling and won't do anything without U.S. cover
4) Putin is the one person on planet earth who could end the USA on a whim and resolutely not talking to him is a bad idea

My point is that the US reached the outer limits of pressure on Russia by the end of the Biden administration, and despite Trump's bluster he implicitly recognizes he has limited leverage over Putin when it comes to eastern Ukraine. However, he has successfully repositioned U.S. involvement so we are getting paid for whatever we send to Ukraine. Now, even if they do have to fight it out, the American taxpayer is no longer hemorrhaging money. While this creates some distance between the U.S. and Ukraine that paradoxically helps Ukraine because it looks less like a U.S. proxy and can escalate attacks inside Russia. Trump's energy policy has also encouraged Ukrainian kinetic sanctions against Russia's refinery capacity where Biden was too beholden to Russian oil to keep global crude prices in check. Trump has also heavily tariffed Russia's partners like India and China.

My contention is therefore what more can Trump do with the geopolitical realities and domestic politics he has to contend with?

>>64219153
>there's unlikely to be many Venezuelans in the military.

The ones that are would be men whose families fled Maduro's misrule and would be even more keen on participating in his violent overthrow than native-born Americans. For them, it would not a betrayal, but a liberation.

*see Italian and German (and Japanese to a lesser extent) refugees who signed up to fight for the Allies in WWII

>>64219157

What are you even niggerbabbling about?

>>64218922
>>64219160
>vatfricans still peddling this cope
Now tell us the one about the Italian F-35 pilot who needed therapy after encountering zigger EW.

>>64219175
>2) there isn't additional military assistance the U.S. can give without prompting counterveiling Chinese involvement
lol

>>64218812
If they had one based guy like the Libyan guy who built a a Mig-23 in a cave or the guy from Yemen who made a F-5 out of parts they might get respect but beyond that no. If they were lucky they might score a minor hit like those low flying guys from Argentina in the Falkland war but they would die. Every person on the US side would hate having to kill the guys and give them mad respect but they would die. Everyone on those US ships respects the pilots but they know they are dead if they do anything.

The pilots of those Venezuelan F-16s have massive balls .

>>64219189
The thousands of ERAMs recently sold invoked China's Final Warning™

>>64218834
It's just Venezuela showing face using their F-16s to show that they have at least a couple of pilots that have courage.

>3 functional F-16s
>21 SU-30s
>Send the F-16s

It isn't hard to tell which weapons platform they trust.

>>64219182
lol, keep pushing the UK Government’s version of events and maybe one day someone will believe it Nigel

https://www.campaignforliberty.org/hms-defender-versus-the-russian-military-the-danger-of-believing-your-own-propaganda

Press reports suggest that there was a dispute between the UK defense and foreign ministries over whether to violate Russia’s claimed territorial waters with a heavily armed warship. According to reports, Prime Minister Boris Johnson himself jumped in to over-rule the more cautious Foreign Office in favor of confrontation.

As Johnson later claimed, because the UK (and the US) does not recognize Russian sovereignty over Crimea, the UK was actually sailing through Ukrainian waters. It was an in-your-face move toward Russia just weeks after the US and NATO were forced to back down from a major clash with Russia in eastern Ukraine

This time, as was the case in eastern Ukraine, the Russians took a different view of the situation. Russian coast guard vessels ordered the HMS Defender to exit Russian territorial waters – an order they punctuated with rare live fire of cannon and dropping of bombs.

Having had their bluff called, the UK government did what all governments do best: it lied. The Russians did not shoot at a UK warship, they claimed. It was a previously-scheduled Russian military exercise in the area.

Unfortunately for the UK government, in its haste to create good propaganda about standing up to Russia, they had a BBC reporter on-board the Defender who spilled the beans: Yes, the Russian military did issue several warnings, yes it did buzz the HMS Defender multiple times, and yes there were shots fired in the Defender’s direction.

>>64219226
...and then the Defender simply kept on sailing

>>64219015
You're the worst kind of idiot.

>>64219175
No you really are the dumbest motherfucker I've seen this year, so far.

This show of folse has the olange man shaking, Amelica has fallen

>>64219237
>>64219243
Gonna be a long Friday bro, it’s like 2AM at Eglin AFB and you’re seething

>>64219175
>OOK OOK

>>64218812
Literally nothing. This is the same shit all South American leaders do because of the fundamental differences between NA and SA cabinets. Even Trump, who stacked his cabinet with cock-sucking sycophants, still has experts who'll tell him if he's making a huge mistake, but most of SA entirely lacks this very basic function. Maybe this is just Maduro trying to create internal hype, but it's equally likely he honestly thinks this is an intimidating display because no one is willing to stick their neck out to tell him, and he knows nothing about the airforce or navy; foreign or domestic.

>>64218834
for dedicated asuw munitions, they have:
>kh-31a for the flankers
>exocet for birds and surface combatants
>various exocet copies from china and iran for surface combatants
>mbda otomat for surface combatants
>various torpedoes
they also have plenty of other guided and unguided munitions

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>>64219175
>My point is that the US reached the outer limits of pressure on Russia by the end of the Biden administration, and despite Trump's bluster he implicitly recognizes he has limited leverage over Putin when it comes to eastern Ukraine.

>despite Trump's bluster he implicitly recognizes he has limited leverage over Putin

Oh i think he has some leverage, Kim Jong Nam's entire immediate family is currently in US custody and Trump can pay Kim more money than Putin can not to mention Trump is more trustworthy than Putin odd as that sounds:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-nam

The US has Nam's family in custody and knows where they are, that's worth more than anything Putin has to offer.

>>64218812
I don't think we gave the Venezuelans any anti-ship munitions, so the most they could do with their F-16s is kamikazi them.

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>>64218812
>be a nation with 0.000004 the military budget of the US
>fly a jet designed and manufactured in the US over a US warship as a "show of force"

Why are third-worlders like this

>>64219293
Because it looks great for the propaganda broadcast at home.

They also know that, unless they themselves fuck up to the largest degree, the US ships won't do anything, so the risk is absolutely minimal.

>>64219226
>Russia now has demonstrated that it will protect Crimea, which voted in a 2014 referendum to re-join Russia. The Crimean vote was triggered by the US-backed coup in Ukraine.

Fucking lol.

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>>64219286
Without Kim Putin and Russia will fall. The USA can offer the DPRK more than Russia can.

Like Nixon went to China Trump will go to Pyongyang, i've said it for ten years and i will shout it to the skies and in the street: Trump will turn the DPRK to our side or at least make them neutral. Remember my words, it will happen.

Without Kim Russia falls and Trump will turn the DPRK. Russia will lose at least half of it's artillery supplies overnight, just cutting off Russia from Nork troops will be worth any price since they are the only reliable professional troops left at Russia's disposal.

Mark and record this post, it is going to happen.

>>64219293
>>64219312
They have to have some pride and self respect, they know it's pointless but they have to do something.

Those pilots have balls of steel.

>>64219324
>know literally nothing will happen to you
>balls of steel
??

>>64218977
murika already did a 3 day SMO in Iran and finished 2 days early

Trump just hellfired a 30 foot long boat full of unarmed drug smugglers and deployed two marine assault ships with 2000 marines and a pair of destroyers to do it. He isn't fucking around.

If you think two ancient F-16s from a nation that only has three of them can slightly threaten that US naval group or that Trump wouldn't have them shot down on general principal i'd like a hook up for the crack you are smoking.

Those pilots expected to get shot down but didn't, that is worth respect.

>>64219346
>He isn't fucking around.
But is he releasing all the Epstein files?

>>64219014
Just russian

>>64219346
>Those pilots expected to get shot down but didn't, that is worth respect.

Lmao no they didn't, buzzing someone is basically the same as deliberately entering a "foe's" airspace and being escorted out, just a lowest common denominator attempted flex.
They would face exactly 0% chance of being shot down even before the US decided to put on baby gloves to deal with thirdies in some kind of a misguided attempt to be seen in a more positive light by people who hate them.

>>64219374
He's releasing Maxwell, i thought that was enough for you chuds

>>64219374
Apparently, on a google drive account. But there's a DOJ leaker saying he's editing the files and collaborating with Maxwell so only Democrats are revealed in it ;)

>>64219374
Your Palantir social credit score has been docked 50 points, as you are now below 500 points, your 2nd Amendment rights have been revoked. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

>>64219386
Every iteration of the file wil be recoverable if it's hosted on Google.

>>64219398
Either that or they'll leave an unredacted copy in the printer tray at a Best Western's office suite

>>64219387
>Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Lel

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>>64219175
>Trump's energy policy has also encouraged Ukrainian kinetic sanctions against Russia's refinery capacity where Biden was too beholden to Russian oil to keep global crude prices in check. Trump has also heavily tariffed Russia's partners like India and China.
Yeah. We could probably send more weapons, but I think this is a tougher approach to Russia compared to Biden even if it might not seem that way because Trump shook hands with Putin in Alaska.

>>64219015
>Remember a couple decades ago Hugo shamed USA but giving our old poor folks cheap heating oil when prices were spiking?
Well, first of all, the collapes in commodity prices caused the Venezuelan economy to collapse. Second of all, Maduro is no Hugo Chavez. You can say a lot of things about Chavez but nobody can deny he lacked charisma. Maduro... does not have that. Besides the Venezuelan government doesn't even have a commitment to that populist-socialist stuff anymore, the people in Venezuela who represented that part of Chavez's coalition bolted a long time ago as the government turned into a more bizarre, more criminally incompetent / rigged kleptocracy that suddenly now talks a lot about Jesus and is really only stanned now by the dumbest online tankies because of their foreign policy. It has gotten so bad that left-wing parties that used to be part of the coalition (to the left of the PSUV), are now part of the opposition, with the PSUV literally replacing their candidates on the ballot with Maduro like it's a cartoon satire of a rigged election.

>>64219015
Brazil, the big player, is now under Leftist control, and thus friends with current Venezuelan regime. Argentina stooge appears to be crashing out.
I'd also add that the socialist government in Bolivia is crashing out. There was right-wing coup, which held power for around a year and then failed, and the socialists came back, and then there was a split in the socialist party over the leadership with Evo Morales fleeing to one of his Andean peasant villages where the locals will kill police who try to arrest him. Elections are coming up soon and it's now guaranteed one of these right-wing candidates will win, and probably by a considerable margin. Bolivia was one of the "pink tide" stories along with Venezuela.

>>64219256
dumb brown nigger

>>64219085
>Do people really still believe the Steele Dossier hoax?
No, but "if it walks like a duck..." and all that.

>>64219175
>1) No level of additonal sanctions is going to get Russia to the table
Just start enforcing the current sanctions by going over sanction busting faggots and go in full force with secondary sanctions. Simple as.

>>64218853
>Good luck trying to strap chinese bombs onto a block 15 F-16 lmao
I can't imagine it's that hard to machine a pylon that matches F-16s on top and Chinese bombs on bottom.
Chinese bombs are probably compatible with western pylons out of the box anyway because it would simplify implementing the hacked data if all your weapons used basically the same bus.

>>64218853
>You think they're retarded enough to arm the Venezuelans in America's backyard?
Do you not?

>>64218945
>so any attacks that are perceived at even coming close to the homeland will evoke a dis-proportional response
FTFY

>>64219225
>>3 functional F-16s
If you're going to beat your chest to the USN, may as well do it flying US hardware.

>>64219256
How's it going Eglinfag, I see you're off the meds on the brown dick again.

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>>64219226
>can defeat the might of perfidious Albion
>loses black sea to jetski bombs
Wew

>>64218877
ill never understand the bugman slave mentality thats so prevalent in third world

>>64218917
palestinian mentality
strong before the war, crying out war crime as they lose

>>64218977
>our eyed
back to the sheet metal house brownbug

>>64219346
>Those pilots expected to get shot down but didn't, that is worth respect.
lol no, at least fire a bunch of cannon rounds into the water as warning shots before you claim you did something risky

>>64219286
>Kim Jong Nam's entire immediate family is currently in US custody
Kim Jong Nam is dead and his entire family is in China and Macau.
Are you high?

Russia could more easily kidnap them than USA could and in any case, Jong Un doesn't give a shit about them.

>>64219379
Trump and the US Department of War are not the administration i would chose to make assumptions about.

>>64219538
Just because he sent a sortie to blow up a boat of illegals smuggling dope doesn't mean their RoE against actual Venezuelan government forces is gonna be any less soft than it was in the past 30+ years, don't be retarded.

>>64219015
Oh my God we bitch break dumb fucks like you all the time. Don't you have a field to be tending?

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>>64219532
Via Langly VA. Nam's Kids were living in the US as of a decade ago. When the PRC coup didn't work Nam tried to defect to the USA. He got greedy and stayed too long.

>>64219555
>Nam's Kids were living in the US as of a decade ago
They were living in China the whole time.
One family is in Macau, the other in Beijing. Both under Chinese protection.

>>64219559
That be a interesting feat if they are living openly without the sanction of the Kim Dynasty, if they didn't have their sanction they would be dead.

Even in China or the USA.

>>64219543
He's Norktard:
He's already halfway there.

>>64219565
>That be a interesting feat if they are living openly without the sanction of the Kim Dynasty, if they didn't have their sanction they would be dead.
I think they just don't matter.
The sons haven't been raised as heirs so they're not credible figureheads for a Chinese-backed replacement regime. That's probably why China keeps them around but without years of propaganda to configure the party to accept them as viable heirs, they're no threat to Jong-Un.
Why would he give a shit about them?

Why the fuck do you think any of these kids are in USA?
Your only source was the wikipedia article which literally says they're all in China.
So I repeat, are you fucking high?

>>64218867
Look good play good. You saw the fit and that's why.

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>>64218812
>venezuela bizzing arleigh burke in response to us annihilating a narco dinghy
I used to think that we were a bit too much when it came to our shows of force but I'm actually now starting to understand that the thirdies we're up against actually are just willing to proudly display their anti-western goals no matter how monumentally retarded

>>64218853
China has been arming or trying to arm South American countries because they want their resources and they use it as 'you must defend yourselves from the evil Americans' or if you're Argentina 'the evil imperialistic British'. The fact that China is infinitely more imperialistic than the UK is hilarious, but they back Argentina that Falklands is theirs (it isn't, despite the UN saying otherwise) and tried to give Argentina stuff so they could invade. USA didn't want a pro-Chinese state there anyway and offered F-16's instead and Argentina accepted those. Of course, China has a vested interest to keep Argentina on side because they are strip fishing their waters illegally and fucking their economy worse while causing untold environmental and natural disasters.

>>64219226
Okay but none of what *squints* 'campaign for liberty' says changes that HMS Defender did exactly what others said it did. Carried on sailing.

>>64218963
Um. You mean an act of war like missiles being placed in Cuba? Surely the USA wouldn't respond to that correct?

>>64219839
>You mean an act of war like missiles being placed in Cuba?
How on earth is that an act of war?

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>>64219283
That sounds a bit better, I wonder how competent a navy who got sunk while trying to ram a cruise ship is though.

>>64219226
Kek, you're a literal retard
Go back

>>64219854
>>You mean an act of war like missiles being placed in Cuba?
>How on earth is that an act of war?
Anon, please, you make my knees go weak. Educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

>>64219002
>uss lena dunham
No, USS JEFF DUNHAM.

>>64219871
I'm surprised vatniks and le global majority shills aren't claiming they sunk it yet, especially since they seem to get off on badly lying about easily verified things.

>>64218941
why would russia or china give america a casus belli to destroy venezuela and topple probably the only allied country they have in south america?
the US have been waiting for a provocation to invade them for the past 20 years or whatever, seems pretty retarded to arm venezuela imo.
then again russia has proven to be quite retarded these past few years so i wouldn't put it past them.

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>>64219319
>Mark and record this post,
You seem to need a lot of validation. You are witnessed.

>>64219888
They just did the same the US did in Turkey.

>>64219903
Yes and no - yes, they placed IRBMs at a position that could reach the place of government with very little warning time beforehand. Difference was the way the USSR could move their government beyond the Urals and thus mitigate the risk of being obliterated while fucking around that the US could not.

And to come back to the original question, how was the placement of IRBMs on Cuba an "act of war"? It's the height of the cold war when all of this goes down, doing something while publicly/internationally calling out the other side for the same bs was something everyone that wanted to partake in the games did.

>>64219839
nuclear warhead mrbms vs a few hundred javelins

>>64219903
there where two nuclear powers in western Europe already plus a fuck ton of US nuclear munitions staged there as well.
nukes in turkey was more of the same
nukes in cuba was a game charger

>>64219888
Yes i know about that, you just need to explain to me how it constitutes an act of war

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So...what happens now? The US will pivot south?

>>64219374
>whataboutism
What about those death camps in Venezuela.

>>64219962
He'll fart and do nothing.

>>64219949
missiles =/= gravity bombs

>>64219962
INDOPACOM is the priority and will be till Taiwan no matter what happens

>>64218853
china is chewing up south and central america pretty thoroughly anon.

>>64219962
good. india must be contained

>>64220059
We can begin by banning any Indian account on twitter pretending to be white conservatives.

>>64220152
A. Agreed
B. More on the first step would be better. Ban them from as many platforms as possible, across any poltical spectrum.

>>64220164
it's only the start, the world at large needs to start dismantling the massive academic fraud scheme that enables pajeets with fake professional titles to apply first to every single job position in every single country, then nepo more of themselves in to immigrate "legally", all while tanking companies, services and being stinkin' rapin' human vermin on western society.

>>64220173
Oh man, you'd piss off so many mediocre white doctors with cayman islands educations. But yeah, nepotism is a huge problem along with piggy backing immigration. Outsourcing jobs to foreigners is only worth it if you're unable to train people for positions, which we aren't, nobody wants to train people anymore.

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>>64220152
This, but lets also follow up Tim's suggestion

>>64220200
Ironic coming from the zigger peddler

>>64220225
Tim Pool is legitimately so stupid i actually believe he didn't know where the money was coming from, he doesn't seem to understand much of the world in general.

>>64220225
Always accuse them of that which you are guilty

>>64220200
No fucking way he posted this

>>64220228
Yeah paid off or not, no one should be listening to this idiot

>>64220228
He was propped up by USAID and Russian money, since theres minimal censorship now hes irrelevant as harder hitting commentators can exist.

>>64219175
>noooooo you have to cowtow the faggy dicator because he MIGHT ook nook
faggot.

>>64219226
>vatnigger schizo has retarded delusions
and water is wet

>>64220256
>USAID
"no"
>ziggers
Confirmed by FBI

>>64220228
Shan't be excusing literal, actual, factual PAID zigger shillsfor any reason

>>64220277
A lot of US podcasters were propped up by USAID anf now are faltering

>>64218853
>You think they're retarded enough to arm the Venezuelans in America's backyard?
In case you haven't noticed, China is not only engaged in a second Cold War with the US (though the US refuses to recognize it, being too drunk on cheap plastic garbage) but they operate about 60 years behind the US in just about everything but tech since they can steal that. You might as well be asking "do you think the US is retarded enough to arm the Afghans in the USSR's backyard?" They're very likely to do what the US was doing half a century ago when it comes to destabilizing their enemy and building fiefdoms around the globe.

>>64220286
And a lot of them weren't even super far right shock jockeys but just snyde neocon bitches who would make demoralizing remarks but never truly rock the boat.

You could always tell who'd do the eastern blocs' bidding(not just Russia but China too) when they continuously refused to engage directly with problems that make the US weaker internally AND externally and focusing on dumbfuck culture war shit. The housing market. The labor market. Higher education grants.

>>64220304
Yep, it was about controlling people. Also the most popular center right liberal taking Russian money was beneficial to the White House at the time so making Timmy popular was beneficial.

>>64220293
China would have a lovely time trying to get material support to Venezuela seeing as the US Navy is all over the area, and the only way around is through Colombia(not happening), or Brazil(good luck hauling anything through the jungle with no roads lmao)

>>64219516
because you ware never bashed by omnipotent government violence machine

>>64219226
And now tell us a fairytale of USS Donald Cook being completely shut down by single su-24's ew suite.
Haven't heard it in a while.

>>64220390
Man its wild how late warriortard was up posting last night

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>>64220390
>Haven't heard it in a while.

Never gonna forget how ziggers actually turned that completely made up story into a commemorative coin titled "lessons of peace" kek
Absolutely spiritually buckbroken people

>>64219256
No retard. You are a low intelligence cunt.

>>64219319
>he thinks a US aligned North Korea is going to happen.
Man, I want whatever you’re smoking, because you’ve got the GOOD shit.

I’d love for it to happen though.

>>64220225
Its so insane to think that the outcome here has been that he got WH press credentials

>>64219175
>USA can't do anythiiiiiing!
Just let Ukies bomb the refineries

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>>64218853

One of best contributions of Malaysia's military efforts is to combine the best of the Soviets and the West. Malaysian equipment are well-known to be extensively upgraded with Western technology beyond the capabilities of simple 'Slavshit'. The biggest challenge is the difference in operational philosophy between Malaysia and Soviet Union. Malaysia tried to address these shortcoming with SU-30MKM which uses Soviet airframe & Western avionics. The flankers are better built, have extensive air to ground as well as air to air capability and compatible with RMAF's mostly-western equipments. Malaysian SU-30MKM are the only Sukhoi SU-30 series that capable of using Sidewinder, Paveway and JDAM. Currently RMAF is able do do SEAD with Su-30MKM + Kh-31P. SU-30MKM "Growlerski" is also the first ECM/EW Sukhoi platform designed and build outside Russia.A multi-role platform with SAP-518 ECM pod and mix of SAP-14 jamming pod is considered similar to the United States ALQ-99 jamming system installed on the EA-6B Prowler and EA-18G Growler. Funny thing is the Russian are following Malaysian example that successfully integrated Russian-Western technology into their SU-30MKM.

>>64220556
Literally what I said.

>>64220611
thank you for your pointless trash pasta malaymonkey

The Malaysian schizo is back

>>64219153
>but regardless there's unlikely to be many Venezuelans in the military.
LatiX are all same because they all came from Spain and all hate Anglos.

BTW, I'm sure China will be happy to support Maduro not just for oil (I'm gonna guess that China would be just the ones to not care about shitty high sulfur oil) but just to help USA weaken itself.

>>64218867
Never forget your kit anon. Don't want to be carrying around a log all day do you?

>>64218977
I want to see another Iraq. How big will Maduro's hideout?

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>>64219901
>>64220535
Witness this:

>Train car
>Bourbon
>Water
>Ice
>Lemon
>Mint leaves
>Marlboro lights
>Pissed off
>Daughter looking out the window being uncomfortable

He is smoking Marlboro lights drinking a mint julip in his heavily armed trailer while his daughter nervously looks out the window, Kim is an American at heart and i dare anyone to contradict my assessment.

>>64220152
I am of the opinion that part of the dysfunction in American discourse is due to (not even necessarily malicious) foreigners participating in it without Americans being aware.

>>64220792
Holy fuck he's from lexington

>>64220792
>>64220819
Has it been confirmed if he likes sweet potato pie?

>>64220825
Perhaps, norktard may need to confirm, but i have suspicions he has a thing for sweet potato casserole covered in marshmallow and brown sugar.

>>64219015
Are you this dumb? You're describing a scenario that would justify the creation of a fourth reich the US has been thirsting for, and it would be like the third reich with nukes and lasers.

Paco would rather blast maduro's cartel mooks than destroy american goodwill towards his people forever. Hispanics are very much aware that americans could just decide to kick them out, and they'd be powerless to do anything more than throw a minor tantrum.

>>64220825
>>64220840

Actually yes he does, there was a article about them trying them out for cultivation a few years ago. The growing season is a short for them but Kim does in fact love sweet potato pie. It's a very limited item but Kim does like it.

>>64220845
>Are you this dumb? You're describing a scenario that would justify the creation of a fourth reich the US has been thirsting for, and it would be like the third reich with nukes and lasers.
>American Third Reich with nukes and lasers.

I fail to see the problem.

>>64218977
Perhaps the most retarded statement yet. Venezuela is going to be like fighting a toddler.

>>64219015
You're stupid if you think the average USMC spic is going to betray the United States for fucking Venezuela. Nobody hates latinx more than other latinx.

>>64220867
The problem is half the hispanics would turn into honorary aryans, based blacks would be left alone, and then los estados nazidos would fuck up geopolitics forever while nothing changed in the US

Remember all major social changes in america are just political theatre that the government already planned for

>>64220684
You.
Are.
Mentally.
Retarded.

>>64219611
I remember watching a video on this, and there were shitskins in the comments talking about how "34% of the ship quit after they got buzzed". All 34%, all in the same way, like a script.

>>64220883
All i have to say to that is OK and:

>American Third Reich with nukes and lasers.

I just want to repeat that a few times so everyone can think about it:

>American Third Reich with nukes and lasers.
>American Third Reich with nukes and lasers.
>American Third Reich with nukes and lasers.

"Pablo cover Shaniqua while she brings the flamethrower up to the window, those bastards inside the Fed will not last another hour!"

>>64220867
>well, i dont know bout them there boys over the border but i like my women like i like my horses. Fast, preferably muscular, and oddly young for what theyre doin.
>drags a stogie, sips mint julip
>선생님, 대체 뭐 하시는 겁니까?

>>64220684
Sure, supporting a nacro state that all their neighbors hate is a smart idea on the geopolitical table

>>64220922
>Mud season spring 2026 in Ukraine
>UA dug in for a Nork mechanized assault
>Nork monster trucks squish the last few MT-LBs and their crews to get to the lines
>Screeching Nork news lady is shouting Dixie out of a megaphone in Korean
>6 hours: Berlin
>12 hours: Paris
>24 hours: London cancelled because they don't fit in the Chunnel

>>64220949
>trail of white monster cans filled with dip spit and shit tier piss water beer cans in their wake

>>64220152
Elon will never accept banning bots. Twitter would be like 5 Israelis arguing with each other if he removed all the bots.

So we're at war now
>According to senior officials, we have declared war on the cartels
https://youtu.be/E6g91JDzB9Q

>>64221026
Jannieeeeessss do your fucking jobbbbbbbbbb

>>64220935
if you thought US foreign (military) policy was disfunctional before, wait till we get into a no-win open ended conflict against not just Leftist govts, Cartels, but guerrillas, narco-guerrillas across multiple nations, where the Cartels are already up in every town, court and police dept and school system in mainland USA.

BTW, Cartels are all transnational and even largely non-racial. Truly "merit based".

The extant to which Trump and Little Marco don't know WTF this is going to lead is mind boggling, but IMO could involve some really weird bedfellows, like White Boomers raised on MLKjr Civil Rights worship going against US Govt because US Govt is trying to militarily address Cartels inside USA, and you can't do that without stepping on a lot of Mexicans.

I'm sure there is some Art of War warning against getting into this sort of situation.

>>64219191
Thinking of dicks go get help

>>64219276
Are you gay?

>>64221059
>>I'm sure there is some Art of War warning against getting into this sort of situation.
>I'm sure of something but I don't know it
That pretty much defines modern discourse on the internet

>>64221059
Calm down, retard.

Cartels are not jihadis. They are mostly people who are either desperate for money or blackmailed. This is not an ideological war. The world is not going to rise up and go AMURIKA BAD! over this. There is no racial brotherhood among hispanics. They are basically just brown white people. They only hate 3 thing - eachother, blacks, and jews.

>>64221108
Nah bro, La Raza is going to conquer the evil fascist yanquis, trust me hombre.

>>64221115
>the latinos they want you to think about: LA RAZA! RECONQUISTA!
>the actual latinos: Man I fucking hate latinos

Beanigger here.

TVD

-Beanigger

>>64221108
I have yet to hear a single person outside of "totally organic" posters here that is against total cartel death. And I know a lot of South Americans, (including Venezuelans), Euros, and even a bunch of genuine Pajeets, one who is quite literally named Pajeet, and even a handful of Chinks
(Granted these are chinks who explicitly left China and say fuck pooh bear openly). I work in international shipping so I meet a pretty broad swathe of nationalities.
The ONLY "people" I have ever heard that aren't fully approving of outright burning Venezuela to the ground are anonymous posters who all use the same posting style, hmmm really makes you think.

>>64221177
I think they're either wumao, or feds posting "our enemies are strong and you must fear" propaganda with an "orange man bad" spin since america is controlled with fear and all that

>>64220949
>>64220996
>somewhere out there is a universe where Kim Jong Un owns several successful used car dealerships and barbeque restaurants

>>64221257
>murdered his girlfriends hoodrat bf to protect his dealership empire from undesirable genes
>tells the local sheriff exactly what he did
>0 arrests made

>>64219493
>I can't imagine it's that hard to machine a pylon that matches F-16s on top and Chinese bombs on bottom.
Pylons aren't exactly "machined". They're a shell designed like the hull of a boat with bulkheads and a skin. It's laid over a combination of servos and clamps that grip, stabilize, and release the bombs. Alongside that is cable harnesses and microcontrollers that not only power the servoes but communicate with the armament computers and cockpit, tell the bomb to arm itself, and all that jazz. You could make an adapter for basic-bitch gravity bombs pretty easily. For something like a GBU or anti-ship missiles that you're targeting in the cockpit computers, you need a dedicated pylon that lets you interface with the disposable stores' computers. Just stuffing a Raspberry Pi into a pylon and hoping it holds together over a few hundred launches and landings is a real bad idea. Especially considering how rough that shit is on the purpose-designed and shielded/stabilized hardware made for the plane. Not that it's something the Chinese wouldn't do, mind you, but it's still not smart.

>Chink pylons are probably compatible with American ones
The physical interfaces are likely very similar. Not so sure about the software or computing interfaces, especially after seeing the unholy bodge jobs in some Chinese cockpits. I swear, they practically run their HUDs with a bootleg NES-onna-chip. I shudder to think what the inside of their armcomps look like, probably a nest of x68000s and a knockoff TI calculator wired to ribbon cables.

>>64219579
>The sons haven't been raised as heirs so they're not credible figureheads for a Chinese-backed replacement regime. That's probably why China keeps them around but without years of propaganda to configure the party to accept them as viable heirs, they're no threat to Jong-Un.
>Why would he give a shit about them?
Someone hasn't read up on the Wars of the Austrian and Spanish Succession. I guarantee Kim has.

>>64221026
>So we're at war now
Neat, I look forward to the gore videos of cartels and their families getting bombed.

>>64221280
china/venezuela/various thirdies trying to flex on the US military, every time:
>gorilla: i hooted and they didn't do shit i am still the alpha
>human 1: why is this monkey yelling? is it hurt?
>human 2: in a way, yes.

>>64221280
Fuck off, polestinian. If you can't drink the water from the tap, you aren't really human.

>>64221280
Ironically, yes, the whole world is in the hands of less than a dozen people, and everyone else is just posing next to each other to pretend they're still important.

>>64221340
>it's real in my head

>>64221340
Is this your fantasy or are you unaware of how the situation is developing

>>64221340
lol, lmao even. Are you the same dude that claimed that israel was done for once hamas, hezbollah, and iran started the REAL war?

>>64221280
tfw the entire bottom of the screen combined has less GDP than the US alone

What's got lefty/pol/ so fucking riled up today?

>>64221383
>russia has a larger army than all of nato combined minus the us
lol, lmao

>>64221383
lmao what good are ziggers for beyond meat waves

>>64221398
>random numbers from the puccia state press
get in the cube

>>64221398
Not existing outside of russian propaganda. I do like how they stopped multiplying the actual number by 10 now and just started winging it.

>>64221398
Pretty good for apparently dead people, actually.

>>64221398
It was 400,000 casualties like 8 months ago so even if we are being extremely generous its at 500,000 now and even then that's 80% WIA.

>>64221177
It's Eurasian thirdies who are mad at America because reasons. It's also why they constantly, constantly being up Vietnam; it's all they know. They have no real experience or education on the Americas, this have no context or understand of why we are feuding with Venezuela.

>>64221403
Only Ukrainian state press is believable when they count numbers, since they don’t had any reason to lie as they are the innocent party got invaded.

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>>64221414
>absorutery seething

>>64221414
That bottom pic always makes me laugh
>Stubb being teachers pet
>Meloni bored
>Rubio lurking
>Vance ready to make people say "thank you"

>>64221414
It's all ragebait and thirdie spamming but I genuinely don't get the comparison this is trying to make. Leaders walking, leaders sitting down? Okay?

>>64221423
>one side lies demonstrably constantly
>other more or less aligns with 3rd party intel
hmmmm esl-san, i wonder why you are laughed at

>>64221422
I'm sure there's more coherent objections to starting shit there but the fixation on 'this will start World War Cartel' is really fucking silly.
>>64221427
Whoever's tard-wrangling Vance needs either to be fired or to be given backup.
I also think Rubio's been wishing for a quick, merciful death ever since he got the gig.

>>64221435
>Whoever's tard-wrangling Vance needs either to be fired or to be given backup.
I have the complete opposite opinion. Thus far he has been doing 10/10 job.
>I also think Rubio's been wishing for a quick, merciful death ever since he got the gig.
Probably because he has 4 or 5 jobs at the moment.

>>64221435
>the fixation on 'this will start World War Cartel' is really fucking silly.
It is. You're talking to people with no understanding of the Americas beyond "USA bad".

>>64221435
>Rubio's been wishing for a quick, merciful death ever since he got the gig.
I don't think he realized how few tard wranglers would be around this time.

>>64221448
>>64221435
Its malding turdies and Euros who treat day-/k/ as /int/.

>>64221414
Lukashenko is wondering what on Earth he got himself into.

>>64221453
He's thinking about the harvest. All them potates waiting for him back home.

>>64221430
Its a reflection of foreign policy. One side believes in mutually beneficial cooperation and multipolarity, and the other will literally murder you if you're not a subservient vassal statelet that is dragged in America's imperialist ventures by force.

>>64221461
So if leaders pose for a photo, they're multipolar; but if leaders are just sitting down in someone's office for a meeting, then they're vassals. Gotcha.

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>>64221461
>One side believes in mutually beneficial cooperation and multipolarity, and the other will literally murder you if you're not a subservient vassal statelet that is dragged in America's imperialist ventures by force.

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>tfw the days of third worlders not being on the internet are over
i miss it so much bros

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>>64221461
>One side believes in mutually beneficial cooperation

>>64221461
>the other will literally murder you if you're not a subservient vassal statelet
Very succinct description of russian foreign policy.

>>64221461
>invade another country and annex a bunch of pieces of it, despite spending years accusing everyone of being hysterical for thinking you're preparing for an invasion
>this makes everyone else imperialists
>refuse a mutually beneficial cooperation with your smaller neighbours, forcing them to choose between war or complete subservience
>this makes the people helping your neighbour defend itself incapable of cooperation
Don't they have mirrors in whichever shithole you come from?

>>64221461
>multipolarity
lol, lmao even

stop replying to shitty b8 you tards

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>F-35s to Puerto Rico
https://nypost.com/2025/09/05/us-news/us-deploying-10-fighter-jets-to-puerto-rico-in-fight-against-drug-cartels-sources/

eastern NCfag here, on my lunch break i saw a flight of 3 F-22s heading south as well. could be training though, but very very rarely see F-22s above my area. mostly F-18s from oceana on training flights.

>>64219175
There are a *couple* things left that could be done. My preference would be for secondary sanctions on all of the European corporations whose CAD/CAM machinery is being used by Russia to make things like missiles. There are big names there, like Siemens, that are actively maintaining the software under legacy contracts that keep getting loopholed or flat-out ignored because European governments are more concerned with money than with actually defending Ukraine, much less upholding international agreements that they signed on to for political reasons. If Russia loses the ability to use those machines, their ability to build high-performance airframes craters.

Also (and the USAF's planners can help with this under the table), Ukraine needs to be going after the substations that power Russia's rail lines. Most of their locomotives on lines west of the Urals are electric. Substations are hard to replace/repair. You kill their rail network, you cripple their economy and massively reduce their ability to resupply the front lines.

But yeah, there aren't a lot of levers left that don't involve open escalation. Since Russia seems to be crashing out over Ukraine, there's not a lot of "safe" options other than starting to actually enforce the existing sanctions and embargoes *as written*, which Europe doesn't wanna do because money.

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Trump is really gonna start another forever war just to prevent us getting the Epstein Files, huh?

>>64221497
Remember, in Russia you can fuck a man in the ass to prove you're straight.

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>>64221461
Stuff it, commie.

I vote we give Ukraine to the vats. Taiwan to the chinks. Take Latin America for ourselves. Then everyone who matters is happy.

>>64221581
Nice try retard

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>>64221581
How about America takes Canada, Greenland, AND all of Latin America, and China and Russia get nothing.

>>64219894
Captain Walter.

>>64218812
I thought MIC had an F16 kill switch

>>64221652
F16 is too old. It's 70's tech, there is no kill switch.

>>64221652
That is a zigger narrative too

>>64221581
You don't vote in US elections because you are a thirdie and you haven't even immigrated to a blue city yet

>>64218812
how many rems of radiation do you think those viper pilots absorbed from the aegis targeting radar?

>>64219015
>Bro the black soldiers of the US military would TOTALLY rebel if the US invaded Grenada!

This is how you sound.

>>64221624
Admittedly better

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>Russian jets shoot at UK ship
>It does nothing and caries on sailing
>UK weapons kill god knows how many Russians
>Russia screeches

>>64221517
>Russia invades Ukraine in 2014
>"Well, the situation is actually extremely complex. You see, Russia HAD to protect themselves."
>Russia invades Ukraine again
>"Russia did absolutely nothing wrong"
>The Czechs have a bloodless revolution against the Soviets where less than 100 people die because the majority of their country is tired of communism, prompting the Soviets to invade them and kill thousands of people before locking them in the cuckbox for decades
>"They deserved it. They should have known that as someone generally near Russia they must accept being their cumsock, and to want anything else is stupid and self-defeating."
>US invades Grenada after like 100 communists armed by the Soviets coup the government in a widely unpopular rebellion close to the American coast
>"OY VEY THIS IS A LITERAL WAR CRIME THE US IS EVIL"

Is there a bigger fake intellectual zigger shill than Chomsky? I can't think of one.

>>64218812
unless it's a sneak attack/sucker punch scenario, F16 is powerless

>>64221814
>is there a bigger faggot than Chomsky?
You gotta go all the way back to Rousseau or Marx (Im throwing Hume in there too because fuck that retard)

>>64219903
No, the US successfully based nukes in turkey. The USSR failed in their attempt to base nukes in Cuba.
>>64220293
US would sink russias ships if they tried. Big difference between the US and Russia is that we don’t have the same global power base.

>>64221108
>Cartels are not jihadis. They are mostly people who are either desperate for money or blackmailed. This is not an ideological war.
This is only semi-true. There have been long term LatiX rebel groups in South America and have been successful revolutions against US backed military govts in Central America.

LatiX are a diff animal largely because with Latin based Spanish and Catholic religion they are already somewhat integrated into the West, where as jihadis at least started out as true "aliens".

No one seems to have an answer to Cartel practice of ruthless murder of family members to gain compliance of not just gang members but officials of every level.

It would take an almost unimaginable new Police State in USA to even think about protecting the families of US officials, including deployed military officers, if Cartels or "rebels" want to start playing dirty.

What are you going to do, put 60 million LatiX, many of who are Natural Born Citizens, in Concentration Kamps due to Pre-Crime?

Or put all families of US military in On Base Housing, which they also couldn't leave without massive escort. Those Army Wives are gonna get tired of buying all their clothes at the PX real fast and husbands will be resigning commissions in droves.

Could some big operation break the Cartels? Maybe, but I don't see current US Govt ready to do the sort of serious enforcement in both LatiX America AND on the streets of USA, against as I mentioned many Natural Born Citizens sleeper cell Cartel operators.

>>64219015
What kind of fantasy world do you fucking live in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDASW6X0XoU
is it the same f16?

>>64221976
>reddit spacing
>Latix
lmao
go back

>>64219649
lol, the war tourists and capital A Airmen don’t even know who Ron Paul is

>>64219293
Because it's the only thing they can do.

>>64219293

At least venezuela used a jet and not 4 little patrol boats >>64156700

>>64222086
they would but their patrol boat was sunk when it tried to ram a cruise ship built on an icebreaker hull.

>>64219387
>pala-
Literally nothing.

>>64221503
>on my lunch break i saw a flight of 3 F-22s heading south as well.
Please God all I want to see is F-22’s smacking Su-30’s out of the air, Please God!

>>64222274
Please, let it fuck something other than an inflatable doll

>>64221503
f-22s just flew over my house, happening confirmed

>>64218812
>Venezuelan F-16s
Why is every war both sides somehow using my tax dollars to kill each other?

>>64222381
you were paying taxes in 1983? also, they are an oil country. they paid for them with oil money. not anybody's taxes.

>>64220792
she qt

>>64219962
realists should be hanged, this was obvious years ago, Russians would rather be a chinese vassal as long as they can rule over Europe, their interests will never be aligned with the west at large.

>>64221652
Way too old of a platform for that

>>64221976
If the cartel targets military families it would be a 9/11 level event for the US public. Even the Dems would be giving Trump a blank check for a big military response.

>>64219015
You think some 6th generation Tejano in the Marines who has pics in his house of his dad in Nam and his abuelo in WW2 is going to betray the US to protect a violent gang or a communist country he has no connection to?

>>64221453
>I wish I was at home tending my garden
>Putin is trying to look taller for the camera again
>my feet hurt
>I'm hungry for some draniki

>>64221976
>No one seems to have an answer to Cartel practice of ruthless murder of family members to gain compliance of not just gang members but officials of every level
I always saw it as some kind of Aztec larp.

>>64221976
what the fuck is LatiX

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>>64222568
Although i don't want to sexualize her (she is 12 you scum) she is probably going to become a attractive woman.

>Pomf=3 Pomf=3 Pomf=3
>It's a nuclear mushroom cloud

The Forbidden Lolitia.

>>64222796
It's a word made up by white liberals who don't actually speak Spanish or Portuguese, they were offended by how as a Latin based language Hispanic languages have gendered terms when they refer to individual people.

'Latinx' is a gender neutral term designed to correct the sexists language of Hispanics by rich white liberals who can't actually speak any Hispanic language .

its nice that americans are finally shedding their curated PR image and embracing their evil empire image, since that's what they've always been

>>64221671
Somewhere between 3.5 and 3.7 roentgen.

>>64221578
The angels were havin' a laugh.

>>64221581
why not just take everything and let the shitholes cry, faggot?

>>64222828
I love how thirdies always say this every time we sort out things in some shithole and yet nothing happens to our image

>>64218882
>getting humiliated by Pelosi
Might as well an hero at that point; there's no coming back.

>>64221536
>muh files
>forgets Bidet held them for 4 YEARS
Retard.

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>>64222916
kek, it's really ironic when Biden cries about a problem that intensified during his tenure.

>>64222961
>shambling corpse with someone else's hand up his puppet-ass for four years lectures us about oligarchy
To be fair, he speaks from personal experience.

Venezuela just messed with a US Navy vessel two times in a row and nothing happened. So far it’s all bark, no bite from this admin

>>64222975
What, you want one to get shot down so that Venezuela can cry foul?

>>64222975
>t. floating mutilated corpse of Maduro's narcofag

>>64219015
These are very good point.
I would like to add that all the immigration sentiment, rhetoric, actions doesn't help Americans either if they decide to push Maduros shit in.
On the other hand I don't believe the "4 million troops mobilized by Maduro", nor do I believe that he has as much support domestically as he likes us to believe.
The killing of people in international waters without being attacked does set a new murky precedent that will have repercussions in the years to come.

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>>64222828
This is not even close to 20th century american shenanigans in SA though, all justified btw, fuck commies

>>64223003
>These are very good point.
>The killing of people in international waters without being attacked does set a new murky precedent that will have repercussions in the years to come.
At least make your grammar uniform you thirdie

We all look at past historical mistakes and we laugh how people could be so stupid, but right now Venezuelans are doing exactly what the US wants them to do, considering how hungry for blood americans are right now they are looking for the flimsiest excuse to go full Jungle Storm on Maduro, I hope he actually tries shooting at one of the ships.

>>64223017
Moving the GOOOOOOOLLL!post again

>>64222975
>this prodding is totally new, and not something that's been done for nearly a century
The power of a thirdie mind is wonderful to behold. Wake me up when they actually do damage to something that isn't their own rotting airframes.

>>64223014
Kys brownie

>>64223300
this makes zero sense at all
do thirdies even have sentient thoughts when they write?

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>>64221536
Yup

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>>64223017
It's quite natural that we're going to go after Maduro who's now in real clear and present danger. After that debacle in Afghanistan? You bet. It's time for America to bounce back by bombing some shitty Latin American banana republic. We're totally going to do it.

>>64223410
https://youtu.be/lI7EgjkHAow

>>64219346
>Those pilots expected to get shot down
yeah

>>64220919
>34% of the ship quit
Weird that they think you can do that in the US military.

>>64219903
We didn't try to put IRBMs in Turkey *covertly* though, and we didn't lie repeatedly after getting caught doing it.

>>64223626
>It's quite natural that we're going to go after Maduro who's now in real clear and present danger. After that debacle in Afghanistan? You bet. It's time for America to bounce back by bombing some shitty Latin American banana republic. We're totally going to do it.

It's time for America to go back to woodland camo on everything, reject multimeme, embrace good enuff peak aesthetics

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>>64219968
We had Thor IRBMs in the UK (initially with USAF crews but later under a dual-key arrangement with the RAF), Jupiter MRBMs in Italy and Turkey (as well as the Italian and Turks having Jupiters of their own including nuclear warhead-sharing agreements), and Redstones, Pershings, Matadors, and Maces in West Germany (with the Bundeswehr operating Matadors and Pershings too, again with American nuclear warheads)

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>>64223838
The Pershing looked particularly choice in Luftwaffe grey.

>>64218812
Just use the F-16 killswitch

Now watch South America just buy the J-10 or the Gripen

>>64221976
> No one seems to have an answer to Cartel practice of ruthless murder of family members
There is.
It’s called doing the same thing to them.

>>64224459
This election is genuinely so retarded in thinking murdering people isn't going to evoke a proportional response

>>64218852
I dont think suicide has ever looked more badass.

>>64224743
>"aye ese we finna kill you cuz you like, didn't let sell fent in yo streetz n shit!"
>*the latinx gets turned into the rapedtinx*
>"W-we wuz like aryans n shiet holmes! I'll fuck you up white b-"
>*gets raped yet again*

>>64218907
This. Go look up video on YouTube of what they were doing toward the end of the pacific war. Impressive levels of firepower