I think NAA finally made a revolver that I'd buy. What do y'all think?
>>64223497I don’t know what you’d buy, what the fuck are you asking me for
>>64223499Their new NAA Ranger is top-break rather than having to fully remove the cylinder, load it, and reinsert it.
>>64223497This looks like something you can comfortably stash in the old prison wallet. It has some nice contours for his pleasure. I'd say go for it.
>finally madeHuh? They've offered a top break for years.
>>64223535Have they? I'd only ever seen the version with the removable cylinder.
>>64223544yeah, the ranger 1 (top) came out like a century ago, and it was a no 3 russian-style opening that you push up to open, then the ranger 2 which was a schofield-style where you pull back, because people were complaining about accidental opening with the ranger 1.you're pretty late OP.
That’s cool as hell
Posting wheel gun in wheelgun thread
>>64223497>>64223569Do they make any real guns like this, or only gallery toys? Be neat in .357mag, and actually useful.
>>64223569That's cool as hell. I never gave a shit about the Pug, but this Ranger tempts me.>>64223579>Posting wheel gun in wheelgun threadThank you. Wonderful gun you have there.
I want to get a .357 revlover but I don't shoot the guns I do have very often. If I buy one particularly a good one like a ruger or a s&w I know I'm gonna regret it. At the same time I wonder about the quality of the cheaper ones like charter or taurus.
>>64223603Why would you regret getting something functional out of the box and not having to immediately RMA it like a couple Tauruses I’ve seen on here, you know what their owners did? They sold them and bought Rugers, why add extra steps? Do you like making thing as complicated as possible for yourself?
>>64223595>Do they make any real guns like this, or only gallery toys? Be neat in .357mag, and actually useful.Russia designed a .357 Magnum top-break for export, but when Bill Clinton banned the Russians from importing guns into the US, Russia decided not to enter these into production. It was called the MP-412 REX.>>64223603>charter armsDo they even make .357 Magnum? I thought they made .38 SPL revolvers and begged their users to never shoot +P through them.>taurus.About the same quality as S&W nowadays, Taurus QC improved a bit when they built their US factory, and S&W QC has gone down a lot over the years, so they match now.
>>64223618for spending the money on a gun I will very rarely use. I'm lucky to hit the range 2x a year and already have a 9mm handgun I haven't shot yet.
>>64223624Yes I played BFBC 2 as well.>>64223639Yeah and? Most people here don’t shoot anywhere near what they brag about doing anyways, if you want it, buy it. Prices are going up. The longer you wait, the less your money will get you, and the higher the MSRP will be.
>>64223595Taylors and Co imports Uberti top breaks.You have either the Russian or the Schofield in many different lengths and finished in 38, 44 and 45. They are pricey and will run you $1500 for the least expensive model.There are no magnum offerings, the top break frame is thought to not be strong enough for magnums.https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/russian-6-5-44russian-rc1-550685.html
>>64223624>Do they even make .357 Magnum?They do, the professional series comes to mind but I've never had one.
>>64223676I went Colt Anaconda over one of these since I know I would get bored just shooting .38spl or .44 Russian through them.
>>64223544>I'd only ever seen the version with the removable cylinder.They have ones with swing cylinders as well.
>>64223676>There are no magnum offerings, the top break frame is thought to not be strong enough for magnums.The tech to do it has been around since the 80s, but no one has made one other than Anderson Wheeler's $10000 .357 webley.
>>64223676The model you linked isn't being made anymore, but that's a cool wheelgun. From what I can see by poking around the site, they are only making them in .38 SPL, .44-40, and .45 LC (which is surprising as modern .45 LC is pretty strong). All the other Schofield models seem to be discontinued.
I do want a single action cowboy revolver at some point but that's pretty low down on the priorities list. Practical guns come first.
>>64223676>the top break frame is thought to not be strong enough for magnumsAnd yet it works for double barrel shotguns. Guess it's just the slim profile of a revolver that precludes a strong enough locking mechanism.
>>64223771>Practical guns come first.Bruh, if you have a long gun in an intermediate cartridge and a carry handgun, then you already have all the practical you need. Live a little.>>64223703>They have ones with swing cylinders as well.I discovered those today too. Very practical, not as cool as the top-break though.
More wheelguns plz!
>>64223497The ranger was introduced in 2011/2012, and the updated version dropped in 2016. They're just uncommon and expensive as far as the naa line goes. I had one for a while, I put oversized grips on it so I cpuld actually grip it, then realized it had become the same size as my LCP2, and switched back to that for pocket carry. The ranger is undeniably cool, top break revolvers are peak aesthetics.
>>64223785Shotguns work on low pressures and also have all the space in the world for a big fuckoff locking lug somewhere.It's also not so much that it's impossible to make a Magnum topbreak, it's that older designs from 120+ years ago with older metallurgy and older casing styles won't be strong enough to tolerate it.Now, arguably your frame and lockup would need to be more beefy than you'd really like it to be if you wanted a topbreak which could rock Buffalo Bore loads like it was a Ruger Redhawk, but it's not like it needs to either, normal loadings of .44 Magnum aren't exactly meek stuff.>>64223771You can always get a Wrangler or Rough Rider for an inexpensive .22 cowboy gun, they're damn fun.
its NAA so its boomerslop. why even have quick-change loading on a derringer? the entire point is that its the most minimally viable type of gun. adding bulk just makes it the same size/weight of a subcompact.
>>64223497>NAA Ranger>.22 magnum?>.32 bore & cylinder?
>>64225088>Shotguns work on low pressuresPressure alone is meaningless. What matters is the total force on the latch, which is a product of the pressure and the area of the case head. force = pressure x area. Shotshells are low pressure, but they are also much bigger than a pistol cartridge.A 12ga is about 10,000 psi and has an area of about .42 square inches, it generates a little over 4000 lb of force at peak. A .357 mag might be 35,000 psi but it only has an area of .11 square inches, which means it makes about the same amount of force as a 12ga.Nevermind the fact that people were building break-action guns in calibers that were both much bigger, and much higher pressure than a 12ga, even with less than ideal steel of the 19th century. A double rifle in a safari caliber totally mogs the forces involved with a .357. Though, you are right that those guns have much more room for bigger locking surfaces, 3rd fasteners, etc. I think it would be entirely possible to build a break-action 357 or 44 capable of taking full power modern loads, but it would be very expensive and bulky, as it would need a perfectly fitted and rather large latch assembly.
>>64225115There's also the issue of basic geometry of a revolver exerting more leverage on the hinge point than something like a double rifle would, and the fact that high-power break action guns like double rifles usually have additional locking points, which are often more or less inline with the hinge for additional strength. Pic rel (>9000 hours in MS paint)
>>64223569>people were complaining about accidental opening with the ranger 1.I will stipulate that people are stupid, but I've never accidentally opened my 999.
>>64223703Look at NAA all grown up now!
>>64225195>usually have additional locking pointsYes, those are the "third fasteners" I mentioned. Typically you'd have the usual 'double purdey underbolt' inline with the hinge like a typical sxs shotgun would have, and then a 3rd fastener, which could be passive like a doll's head or it could be actively locking like a greener crossbolt, etc, up near the top of the action where it breaks open. Personally I think the Bisley "rising bite" 3rd fastener would be ideal for a break-action handgun. It is extremely strong, can be made self-tightening by using a tapered bolt, and it can be added without interfering with the normal lockwork in the revolver--put one bolt on either side of the hammer. Downside, as usual, is cost.
>>64225243Preliminary idea: Use a rotating locking bolt. That ought to be pretty damn strong. Pic rel, example of a locking lever installed on the left side of the barrel assembly.Idea in progress; Some type of rotating locking mechanism using an eccentric cam, a bit like the door locks used on shipping containers.
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>>64225383That would work, it's just an awkward manual of arms.
>>64225440>That would work, it's just an awkward manual of arms.Fuck it, Lefachaux break action lock!
Fuck, I'm going to do it. Why not?
>>64225208Your gun is much larger than the NAA Ranger. Don't you think that having a larger, more comfortable grip would make it less likely to happen?
>>64225510Good choice. GP100s are based.Absolute tank of a revolver.With rubber grips and a full lug barrel that long, it'll be an absolute sweetheart to shoot, even with full power Magnum loads.
>>64223497I will admit i like it more than derringers but i still dont like the dainty trigger.
>>64225510>why notSafety manual warning engravings, which are unacceptable.
>>64225524Fair enough, I've never met someone who does like the triggers.
>>64225521Are the rubber grips better? I was thinking about picking up some wood grips for it, just for the aesthetics at the very least.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1124103625look at this fat fuckin 22
>>64225544Rubber grips are objectively better in pretty much every regard except looks and long term aging.
>>64225544Absolutely, it’s a huge reduction in recoil, especially if you have an exposed frame at the backstrap, but you should be fine with .357mag and wood grips, I have a Match Champion GP100 and those grips are fantastic but if they aren’t tightened down, they’ll sledgehammer your hand, making the recoil even worse.
>>64225195Rather good for just quick MS-Paint scribbles, desu.
>>64225606Thanks bro.
>>64223703Why does the cylinder swing out on the wrong side?
>>64223497They’re cool, but I don’t get it. The whole point of the NAAs are to be as small and light as possible. When you get the ones that are more fun to shoot and easier to reload, you end up with a bigger, heavier gun. Your pic is 7.2oz. A P32 is more effective and weighs less. Stick with the basic ones.
>>64223785Shotguns are lower pressure (significantly lower) despite being more powerful. Also you absolutely can make a top break to handle a .357, you just couldn’t 125 years ago when top breaks were common. It’s more expensive to make one now, but you could.
>>64225785You're supposed to hold the pistol and the reigns in your left hand while reloading with your right, that way to can easily maintain control of the horse, and retain your pistol if the enemy surprises you and you have to draw your saber before you're done reloading.
>>64225820Thanks anon, I had completely forgotten about fighting from horseback.
>>64225510Do it
Love me wheel guns. I want a DA in .45 Colt now
>>64225544https://shopruger.com/Rubber-Grip-w_-Rosewood-inserts/productinfo/70083/Why not both? My .44 Redhawk has these and it's about as comfy to shoot as it can be, but maybe that's because I have the 9.5" barrel.
I really want a break-top that's got that stupid heavy anvil look on the upper barrel, what are some good options?I kindof don't want a 22 but if it's really cool looking I would entertain it.it's just gunna be for shooting bottles anyways.
>>64226026A break top 22 is some of the most fun you can have shooting bottles and cans.
>>64225387I really want repro tip ups in actual shootable calibers
>>64226179I hate to say it but you're better off digging out of a pile of 32s for one that still locks good instead of buying whatever sad turkshit pops up on the market.
>>64225827and done.
>>64223569They made the wrong choice. You’re far more likely to inadvertently actuate the Schofield style latch when cocking the hammer than the No. 3 type. I am a fiend for NAA minis and want to love the top break, but I can’t get over that dump decision.
>>64223595Make it .327 with a 7 round cylinder and at least a 4" barrel and TAKE MY MONEY
>>64226179Me too. A S&W Model 1 made with modern materials and maybe some beefed up parts to handle modern 22lr would be a super fun plinker.
Goddamit, this thread convinced me to buy a NAA Ranger II for shits and figgles.
>>64227027pushed me over the edge into buying a gp100 I've been on the fence about.
>>64223497For me it’s the Sentinel
>>64225490>Saddam Hussein
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>>64225208>999Based. I just won one of those at an auction, but it hasn't arrived yet. Anything I should look out for?
>>64223497its not double action so its useless for self defense and its got a short barrel so its useless for hunting. whats left? its only purpose is blasting expensive magnum ammo at garbage on the plinking range
Wheelgun in wheelgun thread?
>>64223785H&R break action rifles had an endemic problem of popping open, being Turkish shotgun level but in long action center-fire hunting calibers. Anything spicier than 10ga, which is a lot of things, just isn't a good choice for a weak breech mechanism. There is a reason rolling block and high walls were designed to handle those pressures. And those pressures were themselves like black powder 45-90, nothing near modern 45-70 or cramming .30-06 or 7mm-08 or something into a Ruger no1
Thinking of picking one of these up. Anyone have experience with them?Model 19 Carry Comp 3 inch.
>>64227259Top kek
>>64227216Also good.>>64227480I already have a carry gun. I can live a little and enjoy things.>>6422754510/10>>64227560Try not to buy S&W revolvers online. Get them at shops so you can inspect them beforehand. I've had 3 friends buy a revolver online, and it came with problems.>the first guy's gun had a dent in the frame, purely cosmetic but he was really mad.>the second guy's gun had a front sight that was diagonal to the gun rather than at the top.>the third guy's gun had light primer strikes with multiple different brands of ammo and a hangfire.All three guns were fixed after contacting the manufacturer, but that's a headache of its own, having to send it back to them.
>>64227560I wouldn't ever shoot .357 magnum out of anything less than 4" but if you're just gonna carry .38 special +P it's fine
>>64227560I've carried mine on and off for the past 2 years. Love it. But it took a little while to get it where it is today. >Had to replace the front sight because it was too dim for use. >Experimented with a red dot for a while and didn't hate it. >Ultimately go back to a mismatched rear/front sight combo> VZ tactical Diamonds are mandatory.
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>>64223624>About the same quality as S&W nowadays, >>Taurus QC improved a bit when they built their US factory, and S&W QC has gone down a lot over the years, so they match now.youre a fucking retard
>>64228167>youre a fucking retardNah, I just use my powers of observation. Look at all the people who talk about how great S&W's customer service is and ask yourself, "Why do all these people have to send their guns back in the first place?"
>>64227027>>64227095Do it!
My common big bore collection is now complete. The x frame in 460 is new.
>>64228625I did! $600 after tax for the Ranger II, including the .22lr cylinder.
>>64230748Nice!
>>64230748You are now a top-break chad. The rarest among revolver chads.
>>64230699based Magnum Enjoyer
>Colt Python 3" blued>Colt Anaconda 4.25" stainlessTrying to decide between these two. I already have a 4.25" stainless Python that I love. Do I get the same gun but smaller and in a different finish and potentially be able to carry it, or do I get a .44 for the lulz?
>>64228625I did get a gp100, 844$ with tax. I just hope I'm not wasting my money and it's also my first time buying a gun online (bud's) vs just buying something in stock locally.
>>64225517No.>>64227432The 4" can "sit pretty". You'll figure it out. I still haven't gotten a 6". And look for the 9rnd HKS speed loaders, a nice accessory. And Sack Peterson will do 999 stag grips on special order. I have yet to ask him if he would do them in Cape Buffalo horn, but doubt. Still worth asking.
>>64223676>Taylors and Co imports UbertiMy brother got a Taylor tuned SAA in 45LC. Case hardened with a larger walnut grip. They call it the Gunfighter model. I've only finger fucked it so far. Balance and trigger are amazing
Revolvers are intentionally handicapping yourself. Single action even more so. And single action, revolver with a loading gate, are the worst of all possible combinations.
>>64223624>Taurus QC is better than S&WOnly a doofus or a shill would make such an idiotic statement.Taurus no longer warranties their products past one year, S&W has a lifetime warranty.And S&W will actually fix it and get it back to you quickly.Taurus take fucking forever (I think deliberately to get out of the 1 year warranty time span) then sends it back however.I remind everyone who even looks at Taurus that they are literally a crapshoot and that we no longer service then due to not being able to get parts from Taurus.
>>64232113Do you remember “fun” anon? Because it hasn’t forgotten you… it’s just waiting for you to ask..
>>64232183>Do you remember “fun” anon? Because it hasn’t forgotten you… Is this that thing when your wife gives you a blowjob?>it’s just waiting for you to ask..I have asked.
>>64232241She’s probably just waiting to see you whip out a single action.
>>64232115>Taurus QC is better than S&WYou must suck at reading; I simply said they matched, not that one was better than the other, a statement that's not hard to believe considering the rate at which their products get sent back is about the same nowadays.>Taurus no longer warranties their products past one year, S&W has a lifetime warranty.>And S&W will actually fix it and get it back to you quickly.>Taurus take fucking forever (I think deliberately to get out of the 1 year warranty time span) then sends it back however.>I remind everyone who even looks at Taurus that they are literally a crapshoot and that we no longer service then due to not being able to get parts from Taurus.These aren't talking about quality control at all, just customer service after the gun's been bought. If they were better at quality control, they wouldn't get so many guns back to be fixed in the first place.>>64232113See >>64223788 and >>64227715>I already have a carry gun. I can live a little and enjoy things.>Bruh, if you have a long gun in an intermediate cartridge and a carry handgun, then you already have all the practical you need. Live a little.
Who's got a 617? Worth the money?
>>64232113Why don't you enjoy guns?
>>64232567I have the full-lug, 6", pre-lock. Worth what I paid. I love it. Still need the 10rnd speed loaders by Beez.
>>64231033You can already carry the Python, an extra inch isn’t going to matter, and you should go 6in Anaconda, not only does it look the best, it has the higher than average muzzle velocity for revolvers that length. If you do get the Anaconda, immediately replacing the grips with Pachmyr Grippers and the Wilson Combat rear sight are a must. The factory grips extend the frame into your hand, and the factory rear sight walks out under recoil in less then 50 rounds.
>>64233894>You can already carry the Python, an extra inch isn’t going to matterInside the waistband, that inch would matter>you should go 6in Anaconda, not only does it look the best, it has the higher than average muzzle velocity for revolvers that lengthYes, I agree the 6in Anaconda looks the best. But to me the balance of the gun in my hand is more important than muzzle velocity and sex appeal - that's why I'm considering the 4.25".>If you do get the Anaconda, immediately replacing the grips with Pachmyr Grippers and the Wilson Combat rear sight are a must. The factory grips extend the frame into your hand, and the factory rear sight walks out under recoil in less then 50 rounds.I absolutely despise the grips on the Colt Python and Anaconda. The wood grips look good but are horrible for shooting. The hogue rubber grip looks horrible and isn't really better for shooting because it leaves the backstrap completely exposed. The rear sights suck ass too. That's why my current Python has the good Pachmayr presentation grips with the enclosed backstrap, and wilson sights.I wish they took the time to add some serrations to the backstrap given that it's exposed for most grip options out there
>>64234136>I wish they took the time to add some serrations to the backstrap given that it's exposed for most grip options out there>Yes, please turn my revolver’s grip into a high velocity cheese grater for hands, said no one ever.
>>64234168They don't have to be aggressive serrations. Lots of revolvers have serrated backstraps, like the S&W 629
I hesitate to carry a revolver because of the long trigger pull. In a high stress situation I imagine myself not pulling the trigger all the way through for the hammer to release and strike. Are there any double action revolvers known for a short trigger pull?
>>64234224In a high-stress situation youre going to snatch that trigger so fucking hard you'll hurt the joint on your finger.
>>64234230But you’ve seen the videos of people trying rapid follow up shots. Maybe it’s different in high-stress but often people short stroke the trigger.
>wheel gunz
>>64234316Ill always love your revolver. As am.aside, LCPs advertized at $239 in Payson. Made me worder what thier LCR price is. I still want twonor three in different chambers with color coded Forrext grips.
>>64232113Handicapping yourself at what, you nuguns retard? This is a comfy wheelguns thread, not John Wick Larperator General.
>>64234270I dunno, I've never short-pulled a trigger and my Rugers are long and heavy af.
>>64235674You obviously haven't seen 'The A-Team' you pleb. The first mistake of every poser like yourself is to come out as a fake turd, know-it-all while you're still playing retarded "deputy six gun".
>>64235749We're enjoying wheelguns here. Do you want to participate, or are you just salty about your yoocrane thread getting slid?
>>64235749Blowing away old spent food cans and soda cans with an old fashioned(ish) .45 brings me joy and mirth. What do you do for fun?
Anyone have any experience with Pietta 1873 clones? I've seen them online for great prices but I wonder how well they hold up, especially in .357 mag. I'd also be interested in getting one in .45 LC to larp with.
>>64235834Stfu Deputy Fife.
>>64232113Anything under .357 magnum is handicapping yourself>W-WELL MY PISSIN HOT 10MM IS CLOSEThat fires out of what 10rd capacity jammomatic and still gets mogged by off the shelf .357?
>>64236000Shitpost.
>>64236000I love to reload during a battle.
>>64235749>"oh yeah, well you haven't seen [insert fictional media here]"You sound like those people addicted to Harry Potter.
