What is your holy grail? Mine would be that ol MP-412 Rex.
>>64238124Mine would be the MP-412 Rex.
Long gun: either a KAC AMG in 6.8x51, or an ArmWest/Surefire MGX (only 2 in existence). The AMG does not exist in 6.8 AFAIK but I’m sure it will be rechambered eventually.Pistol: Phoenix Redback. They are just so aesthetic. Reminds me a fine mechanical watch with a timeless design, picrel (the one on the right)
>>64238124Yeah, you already posted mine. Despite being immediately post-Soviet and as such a janky piece of shit until proven otherwise, it is still somehow one of the sexiest wheelguns ever made.Fuck Clinton and fuck Yeltsin for denying us this work of art.
>>64238214That period where the Russians started building shit in western calibres to try and chase the export market sure gave us some fun guns.
>>64238214Denying the return of the top break is a sin that will never be forgotten.
This or a mateba.. triple action thunder is more likely to happen honestly.
>>64238124One of the LSAT machine guns or a picrel
>>64238124The Al-Kadesiah rifle from Iraq. It's a stamped (versus milled) clone of the SVD.Ain't no motherfucking way we will ever get one of these in the USA. I'd do horrible things for one.
If I ever won the lottery after I donated half of it to lawfare communist politicians I'd get a couple of these and 2002 WS6 to drive from Labrador to Tierra Del Fuego
>>64238124The Mauser 1906/08. Not entirely unobtainable, but they go for $30-$50k when they come up for auction
>>64238124H&K USP Match, I'm a big Half-Life fan and would love to try one on a range.
A full auto HCAR and actually having enough ammo to enjoy it.
AMT Javelina longslideCZ 97BLlama XVI (pic rel)Tanfoglio Stock II 10mm 6" (imported by EAA as the "Witness Hunter")I had a chance to buy the Llama like 15 years ago for $400 and the fact that my darling little .22 cartel blaster got away from me has haunted me ever since.None of the above are unobtanium, though. The most important guns I want that are very firmly in NEVER EVER territory are a Howa Type 64, a Stoner 63 with all of the trimmings and a ZM LR-300 ML-N.
>>64238124Mine isn't really as exotic as some others, but it also doesn't exist, so there's that. I want a pair of CZ SP-01 pistols, but with compact, P-01 grip lengths. If possible I'd like them in 10mm, but 9mm is fine too. I also want them hard matte chromed.
>>64238124I kind of want a 92f cutlass.
>>64238307: (I hate that they didn't produce this
>>64238124He's close.
this Mateba, in this exact configuration.
fuck you lifesizepotato for showing me this beauty and making me realize i'll never own it
Im a basic bitch, Mateba Unica or Raffica
>>64238717fuck... now I want it too
120mm L/55 mounted on a Napoleonic-era gun horse carriage
>>64238124an IWI galil ace (in .223)I want one but 3300€ is a bit too much
I'd love one of these, but the price goes up on em yearly.
>>64238124Hi Power Renaissance, obviously.>carried in a Miami classic shoulder holster
I've got a list. In no particular order:-A fine sidelock SxS .410 with a second set of barrels in a smallbore rifle caliber, like .22 Hornet, .300 Sherwood, etc.-Dickson round action 20 or 28ga-H&H Paradox 12ga-Mauser 06/08-Gabbet-Fairfax Mars pistol-picrel (I bid over $30k on it a few years ago and lost. Maybe it will come up for sale again before I die?)-LeMat carbine-Steyr 1893 trials revolver-Burgess folding shotgun-Wilkinson Clanricarde blunderbuss-Nock volley gun-Colt Monitor-Bren Ten special forces model-Mateba MTR8-Deely-Edge patent falling block rifle-Westley Richards improved Martini action rifle-Korth Sky MarshalThe Rex is cool, and no doubt I'd have bought one if they came out, but it's too cheap and plastic looking for me to consider it a 'grail' gun. Plus, I've already acquired my grail top-break revolver, a .577 Bland-Pryse.
>>64238124F2000 in 6.5 Grendel.
>>64238124Gotta be the MP-412 Rex
>>64238539Get out of my walls and get out of my head, brother
snake match 1911
>>64238461Based
I love C96s, I currently have a regular Pre-war Commercial and a Red 9, so unfortunately my next grail is the $20k+ Type 17. It hurts so bad.
>>64239399>C96sThose aren't all that expensive or hard to find; how are those a "grail"?>type 17Oh. Carry on.
I know they aren't that rare. I know they aren't even good guns. I know they are overpriced. I know that I'll probably have to replace the rubber components. I know the paddle safeties were recalled and are unsafe. I don't care. I still want a SPAS 12.
Whatever the hell this is.
>>64239451>I know they aren't even good guns. I know they are overpriced.That's most of the guns being discussed ITT. A couple of the hunting shotguns that >>64238907 listed would still be high tier by modern standards but everything else is obsolete and/or oddball shit.
>>64238124HK G36C/ HK 243Not the greatest rifle ever made but it is the sexiest in my opinion
>>64238848Same boat. I just caved and got an HK45CT
A Janz revolver in .454 Casull, bonus points for an entire barrel/cylinder set. The one in my picture would probably cost $40k+.
>>64239461Rsh-12
>>64238536There’s at least 2 distinct ones out there…
What do you think would happen if I loaded a PM9 with .30 Super Carry?
Full 3 stage.
>>64238969imagine how funny it'd be if these got pulled off the nfa and you could buy slugs for them
>>64241983Imagine shooting giant fucking wadcutter diabolo pellets out of one of those things. Or out of an M203 mounted on an M16A2.
>>64242297… that would be pretty easy to 3d print
>>64242446Or cast. Or machine. (no shit actually forgot this channel existed until you replied)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L4WGgGeMe4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAVQJ-sNrm4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhIZZAKWfychttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKZLv94KOMYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5jvmLLQON4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUgiMNOqBrA
>>64242297>>64242471i am now imagining a comically oversized anschutz 8002 like i had in highschool shooting one of these things and the chuckles this is giving me are quite nicestill salty my states highschool athletics association wouldnt let me compete senior year due to me having repeated a year
>>64241983Firing a 40mm slug out of a weapon that weighs 6.5 lbs means that it's either going to be wimpy as fuck, or the recoil is going to kill the shooter.
There are really just so many, but here's one
>>64243738>going to be wimpy as fuckThat was the norm for anything other than grenades in a 40mm. The power came from the explosive, not from the propellant. 40mm buckshot sounds badass until you actually see what's inside it. And it makes sense if you think about it. M79 is actually lighter than the average 12ga, how the hell are you going to shoot some mega buckshot shell out of it without putting the stock through your shoulder?
>Howa Type 64>Type 100 (1940 Model)>All sorts of pre-'00 custom shop 1911s (picrel)>Walther P5 Kurz>Vektor SP-1 MatchAmong many other interesting pistols. If only my cunt wasn't cucked in terms of gat legislation I could possibly explore the world of collecting.
>>64241983I’m already looking into a 37mm replica to scratch the itch. If 40 becomes available I’m buying it within the hour>>64242297I’ll admit, I feel the call of the loony tunes deep within my soul. The idea of firing what is effectively a shoulder mounted naval cannon warms the cockles of my heart and the heartles of my cock.>>64243738We all must someday die. But before we do, wouldn’t it be nice to first *live*?
>>64243919>But before we do, wouldn’t it be nice to first *live*?I'd like to be able to do it more than once. I'm not joking or exaggerating the recoil, BTW. Unless it's mousefart weak, trying to shoot that would simply kill you.a 40mm diameter cylinder 40mm long would weigh about 1.25 pounds or 8800 grains. If it were fired at a mere 1000 fps out of a 6.5 lb gun the recoil energy would be over 4200 ft-lb.How much is that? Well, a normal 12ga is about 24 ft-lb. A really hot magnum 12ga slug is about 50 ft-lb. A .600 Nitro Express--an elephant gun considered overpowered by professional hunters--is about 150 ft-lb.This is a whole new order of magnitude. It's quite literally the same as shooting 84 of the hottest 12ga slugs simultaneously.If you attempt this, make sure to film it.
>>64244186>a 40mm diameter lead cylinderfixed.
>>64244186And for context, here's a discussion of someone shooting a half-pound (3500 grain) projectile out of a 20 lb gun:>Among other weapons, I had an extraordinary rifle that carried a half-pound percussion shell—this instrument of torture to the hunter was not sufficiently heavy for the weight of the projectile; it only weighed twenty pounds: thus, with a charge of ten drachms [270 grains] of powder, behind a half-pound shell, the recoil was so terrific, that I spun around like a weathercock in a hurricane. I really dreaded my own rifle, although I had been accustomed to heavy charges of powder, and severe recoil for some years. None of my men could fire it, and it was looked upon with a species of awe, and it was named "Jenna-El-Mootfah" (Child of a Cannon) by the Arabs, which being far too long a name for practice, I christened it the "Baby;" and the scream of this "Baby" loaded with a half-pound shell was always fatal. It was far too severe, and I very seldom fired it, but it is a curious fact, that I never fired a shot with that rifle without bagging: the entire practice, during several years, was confined to about twenty shots. I was afraid to use it; but now and then it was absolutely necessary that it should be cleaned, after months of staying loaded. On such occasions my men had the gratification of firing it, and the explosion was always accompanied by two men falling on their backs (one having propped up the shooter), and the "Baby" flying some yards behind them. This rifle was made by Holland & Holland, of Bond Street, and I could highly recommend it for the Goliath of Gath, but not for the men of A.D. 1866.>Sir Samuel White Baker, the Albert N'Yanza, Great Basin Of The Nile, p. 138, Macmillan, 1866The math on that rifle works out to about 250 ft-lb recoil if we substitute smokeless powder for black. As fired with the 270 grain charge it would be 373 ft-lb
I wanted the rifle since I saw it in the X-files show.
A Raffica would be nice to have. Would be fun to shoot and cheap to shoot. I dont see them show up very often on auction sites and when they do they usually cost like $40,000 USD or more.
>>64238899You're crying in the rain, pally.
SVDM2A1 with 2x spare barrel, tripod, T&E, pintle mountM79Sako TRGColt Pocket Hammerless with super fancy bluing/engravingA Javelin missile w/CLU2M1897 with heat vent (Triela is my daughteru)
>>64248039>$40,000 USDMaybe 20 years ago. They're closer to $200k now.
>>64243762The barrel is aluminum too. It's not going to stand up to much pressure.
>>64244214Sounds like a challenge for Kentucky Ballistics.
an original Colt Paterson
Pistol wise its a fairly obtainable grail gun, the C96. Though the MP412 is a close follow up. Long Gun wise eh..... There's a lot of competetion. IF i didn't have to worry about sourcing ammo the RM227. It should have been adopted and im still pissed it wasn't. If ammo was a concern, the PRD that magpul never actually made>>64238307what a cute fucking dork
>>64238124One that comes to mind more as one i let get away is the coonan .357 Here's to hoping boys that i get rich as god and I will resurrect coonan. Back when I graduated in 2010 they were less then 1300$ now they're closer to 3000$ and it hurts me
>>64249104I live in Finland and for some reason I have seen a metric fuckton of these for sale recentlyI guess the boomers who bought them 30-40 years ago are croaking left and right now
>>64249104If you do resurrect Coonan, do something about the fit and finish. IMHO one of the big problems with Coonans is that they are quite plain. Introduce nicer models with checkering, nice grips, better sights & controls, and more attention paid to the finish.
>>64248059I'm just sorry I got twisted up in this scene. Guess it was rigged from the start>I need to send my New Agent slide off to get milled into A Light Shining in Darkness
>>64249104>Back when I graduated in 2010 they were less then 1300$ now they're closer to 3000$ and it hurts meFuck, I feel that. I was too poor to buy a M76FS in .223 for like $2100 and now I'd have to shell out something like six grand to get one.
>>64253442If you want to talk about "ones that got away" I've got a bunch.>Early 2000s, browsing Collector's Firearms in Houston. Spot Mateba Unica in .454 Casull for $1600.Was poor student at the time.>Online listing NIB SPAS-15 with over a dozen mags & bunch of factory gear (sling, soft case, bayonet, all the original paperwork...)Dude wanted $4k, I just didn't have the $$$.>Gunbroker saved search Email: Retard has listed a Mateba MTR-8 for $4k buy-it-now.I went to go check my bank balance before clicking buy. I ended up missing the listing by 30 seconds.>Gunbroker again, just before the Coof. Dude lists pair of consecutive serial # S&W 500ES. I decide to hold off bidding to save my budget for Rock Island a couple weeks later.Sold for like $2700The worst one:>Morphy's has badass Alexander Henry .300 Sherwood double rifle with .410 shotgun barrels included>I'm prepared to bid up to $15k on this so I watch carefully. The day before the live auction online bidding has already gone to $14k.I nope out, figuring that if it was that high before the auction even started then I have zero chance at winning since my max budget was just one bid higher. A few days later I get curious what it sold for so I go check the records>$11,400What the everloving fuck. I'm pissed now and call Morphy's to find out how the bid managed to go DOWN. It turns out that it was bid to $17k, which failed to meet reserve so it didn't sell. When the cosigner found out it didn't sell they told Morphy's fuck the reserve, just sell it for whatever you can get. But at this point the bids had no legal standing anymore because the auction was over. So, Morphy's calls up the high bidder and says hey, you're not legally obligated to buy this gun, but the seller says they want it sold, how about we make a deal?Mofo got it for $9k + fees.
>>64238124Mine is an AN-94, I just love the concept and execution of the hyperburst mechanism even if it never went into widespread production.
Why hasn’t anyone made a reproduction/copy of these unobtainium Russian guns here in the U.S.?
>>64238124Great choice. I would have chose the same gun. But if I must chose another one, I would say the New Nambu M60, japanese's police revolver.
>>64256407Because those guns are only valuable due to their rarity. Investing millions of dollars to reverse-engineer a rare gun and get an assembly line going to produce it domestically is unlikely to yield a profit once people discover that it's just kinda average as a practical gun.
