This is the ugliest gun that has ever gone into production.
Steampunk H&K HK21
The 16" Stribog that takes Glock mags is so much worse
>>64244188>Number Built: 5,406>The rifle was negatively referred to as "galopperande järnsängen" (the "galloping iron bed") by soldiers owing to its recoil.>was withdrawn from service and replaced with the older Swedish version of the M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle
>>64244276You mean this? If so it's really not that bad.
>>64244321If that doesn't look like utter ass to you I don't know what to say
>>64244188looks like a gun that would get chopped up and put in star wars, I kinda like it
>>64244188https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10zKAGkfypo
>>64244374>Uploaded 8 years agoI remember watching this when it was first uploaded, and now i feel old again.
>>64244308It was so bad that the Krauts and the Swedes kept blaming each other for the design, and no one wanted to claim credit for inventing the damn thing. (it was the Germans who made the first ones)One weird feature of these things is that they use magazines which are externally identical to Swedish BAR magazines, but the KG-40 mags are single-position feed mags, rather than double feed like the BAR mags. Despite this the KG-40 magazines are fully backwards-compatible with Swedish 6.5mm BAR variants.It's funny, the Swedish variants actually have some significant improvements over the original Browning Automatic Rifles.Same goes for the Swedish versions of the m1917, m1919, and the M2. They all have lots of seemingly minor improvements such as assemblies being redesigned to make maintenance easier, recoil buffers added to guns which previously lacked them, beefed up extraction and ejection mechanisms, improved feeding, etc.All these small changes add up to make the guns substantially better than the original versions.
>>64244188For whatever reason I leafed through an article on this gun in a gun rag just today
>>64244396IIRC there was also some Swedish prototype beltfed BAR monstrosity proposed in both 8x63 and 6.5x55 that got rejected because the recoil in 8x63 was horrendous and the one in 6.5 wouldn't run reliably.
>>64244512>Swedish prototype beltfed BAR monstrosityThey got those to work reasonably reliably.The issue was that they didn't modify the design enough.They basically bodged a belt feed system into the magazine well of the BAR, and that meant that unloading the gun would dump 3-4 loose rounds on the ground. It was also hard to see if there were live rounds in the feed mechanism. Feeding in new belts was also difficult. The Swedish army found all these issues to be unacceptable, so they outsourced the project to FN in Belgium, and the result became the MAG-58. The original versions the Swedes adopted were chambered for 6.5mm, but those were phased out and replaced with 7.62NATO versions pretty quickly.
nah
>>64244188i think it looks nice
>>64244321I actually question whether you have functional eyes
>>64244588Looks like they hired me to do the grips
>>64244588i... like it
>>64244640Yeah it wouldn't even look bad if the grips looked good, especially the front grip
>>64244218>>64244359Shut up you're both wrong
A challenger approaches
>>64245028The SG 510 looks worse even though it's nearly the same gun
Un challenger apparaît> stock from a 2x8> pistol grip from scrap 2x2> dildo as foregrip> french
>>64244188Nah this is soul. Pic related is dogshit and you'd be ashamed to own something like this.
>>64245153Those aren't even particularly ugly, while the XDM Elite is
>>64245183They'll all garbage and look like they were designed by lead-brain boomers. There's actually no designs in the pic I posted. It's just random things mashed together. Pic related though..
>>64245153And the fucking thumb cutout... the absolute braindead boomer-lead retard monkey logic for these....WELL GLOCK DID IT SO ALL GUNS SHOULD HAVE IT EVEN THOUGH IT'S A REATRDED IDEA THAT MESSES UP YOUR GRIP
>>64244374kvkk my beloved
>>64245212Why... do you... type... like... this?
>>64245094
>>64245153oH RIGHT all modern handguns are just glock copies with retarded boomer-lead brains changing a few things to not get sued. SEE SEE THE LINES ARE DIFFERENT OKAY? WE ADDED SOME HOLES IN THE BARRELL TOO SEE?Fucking no thought
>>64245268i had an airgun as a kid that looked almost exactly like that
>>64245268>CAUTION - DO NOT SHOOT FROM LEFT SHOULDERI bet there is a story behind that
Modern designers could never. Every year theres a fucking million pistols that look the same and named something like HELPPUP DEFENDER OFFENDER SHIELD PLUS EXTRA XP XD DOULBE XP GUARDIAN SENTINEL EXTRA PROTECTION SECURITY-9 BECAUSE 9MM WE DON'T FUCK ENFORCER BECAUSE COPS BUY IT DUTY ONE READY FOR DUTY CALL OF DUTY CALLING A PROTECTOR-PLUX-XD-2.0 BODYGUARD VIPER VENOMOUS!
>>64244308BAR-chads, we won.
>>64245268I was thinking about this one but couldn't recall what it was called
>>64245360Just imagine the broken teeth.
>>64245360like ejecting hot sharp brass straight into you jugular?
>>64245392Pragmatic pistol design does not have to be as butt ugly as what S&W and springfield crank out>How it started: America designs the sexiest pistols>How it's going: American pistol design is so bad, USPs and Glocks look good now
>>64244188I guess you will just learn from error not to hold it by the barrel?
>>64245392Even S&W's quick and dirty Glock knock-offs from the 80s looked better than their modern pistols look now.They could keep the lines reasonably clean and didn't clutter every square mm with pointless bullshit texturing and edgy/pointy shit.
>>64245468>How it started: America designs the sexiest pistolsMore like America had some revolvers and the 1911 and nothing thereafterEven JMB's original drawings for the Hi-Power looked pretty terrible
>>64245503yup
>>64244308John Browning always wins. He is the sole reason to give any credence to Mormonism whatsoever.
>>64244374This piece of shit is ass inside and out.
>>64246399Literally none of the people I've talked to who carried one of these things actually liked it. That says a lot. Even semi-crappy guns tend to be liked by the soldiers who carry them.So this thing has to be downright terrible to get as much hate as it does.
>>64246419A friend of mine said the PKM pisses everyone off when they're shooting blanks because it keeps jamming while the KvKK chugs along happilyThen they get to the live fire stage and the roles are instantly reversed
>>64246477Faggot
>>64244321If they made this in 10mm or .45 (that could handle super or SMC) it would be based af.>>64244343>>64244599>hasn't seen my HiPointKek
>>64246603I have no idea about super anything but IIRC they do make the Stribog in those calibres at least
>>64246611If .45acp had the energy of real 10mm, that's .45 super and .450smc. With correct spring weights and/or compensator, they are interchangeable with .45acp as long as the gun can handle the extra pressure. Like an HK USP or mk23. Or my g21 that I built.
>>64246611Shit, chkd dub dubs.
>>64245195desu i feel that despite the fact that glock is in all likelihood one of the best handgun brands making a great product, viable for many peopleit is just really ugly to me and i hate itsame with pistol optics, regardless of their utility i just think they look dumb>>64246477kys it's a beaut
>>64246657With some fucking with the front roller and spring weight the bog should be able to handle .45 super, a steady diet of it would probably shorten its life though. Also just an fyi the USP is rated for .45 +p but not .45 super per HK
Clearly you've never seen the zip 22
>>64246870Let me submit the SAK 10They made 100 of these just before carry got banned in Finland
>>64246830Neat, thanks. I'll have to look into this.The USP can shoot Super, it's just a matter of how long it can before it kills itself.
>>64245094Is that at least a 20 round mag or does it have some funny number like 17?
>>64245268I've got a friend that has two of these things>he shoots trap with it>regularly scores in the mid teens>pisses off the fudds w/ their fancy trap guns
>>64247242It is but loading it to that is not recommended. I think 16rds is the sweet spot for feeding reliability.
>>64245028winner
>>64244188*wrong pic, I wanted to post this
>>64245094Rare case where later revisions actually performed far worse than the original.
>>64244564>and the result became the MAG-58. The original versions the Swedes adopted were chambered for 6.5mm, but those were phased out and replaced with 7.62NATO versions pretty quickly.They are interchangable barrels, was fairly common to switch to the 6.5 barrel for big excercises in the 70s since there were still warehouses full of 6.5 ammo that needed to be used up.
