Will we ever get a working heart attack gun and not just an unused prototype?
yeah
>>64244472When?
how do you keep it frozen tho
>>64244656It was never frozen. It's a methylcellulose gel.Shellfish toxin also does not cause heart attacks.
Firing even 9mm targeting heart will count as an attack.
>fake gunMeanwhile the real discrete one-shot killer
>>64244461>Will we ever get a working heart attack gun and not just an unused prototype?>unused prototype>UnusedSure thing Mr CIA.
>>64244918>>64244461why not just fill a hollowpoint with fentanyl?
>>64244941They had that extra billion in the last month of the financial year, and budgets are 'use it or lose it' . . . .
>>64244941Because the point of this thing is that you can make someone die of apparent natural causes, with no easily detectable signs of assassination. It isn't hard to figure out that foul play is afoot if the victim has a fucking gunshot wound.
>>64244941Fentanyl isn't kryptonite for humans, even embedding it inside someone won't be a very reliable method of killing them. But you can make hydrogen cyanide at home.
>>64244963The point of the fent bullet it to make it seem like someone took fent then shot themselves.
>>64244972You need 0.1-0.5 gr of cianide compared to 20 micrograms of carfentanyl.
>>64245021>cianideESL
>>64245459>dyslexia is ESL
>>64245472I don't like to read things written by either.
>>64245459>CIAnideMoran
>>64245481Close your eyes nigga.
>>64244461why do you keep spamming this? Rhetorical question.
>>64245717You don't know what spam means, retard.
>stage a suicide>perhaps a robbery gone wrong>maybe stage a drunk hit and run>OR>use an extremely oddball weapon which will be beyond conspicuous if the coroner does a thorough job>gee, wonder what this very distinct puncture wound isThe HNNNGGGG pistol was always 50% schizo fantasy, 50% red herring to distract you from real and important shit. There are so many other ways to rub someone out with some plausible deniability that the exotic approach of this concept is completely unnecessary.They literally do it all the time.>>64244961They definitely throw shit at the wall to see what sticks, that was going on even in the OSS days. I would not be surprised if this was something they actually got funded and tried to make happen, but then found the weapon's concept at odds with physics and/or practical application, thus they were fine with throwing it out as a red herring, it wasn't gonna be useful for anything else anyway.
>>64244461They don't need guns anymore, they just use 5G towers to locate your heart with wifi imaging and blast it from multiple angles with millimeter wave radiation, creating a sort of gamma knife except it makes the electromagnetic potential of your heart go bananas and stop
>>64250287Wouldn't it be funny if somebody believed this?
>>64244461Was this before after the ACME-tier Castro assassination plots hatched by Sidney Gottlieb?>>64250287You would be very, very surprised at how many people believe this retarded shit. I know a Q-tard engineer I work with. My former hair stylist also lost her mind, and hilariously enough, she was ranting about this very thing before she vanished and I had find new woman that does scissor cuts.
>>64250540It's not like, 5G in itself, it's just the capability to triangulate targets and irradiate their hearts
>>64250965Do you know about the inverse square law? This is like arguing with my retarded Q tard co-worker who thinks weather radars are somehow heating the surface of hundreds of square miles of ocean dow hurricanes. Keep in mind, we both know and work with AN ACTUAL METEOROLOGIST
>>64251580Thats why you use directional waves from different angles, like a gamma knife. And the wave doesn't need to fry anything, it just disrupts the electric field in the heart which is significantly less energy intensive. It's already publically proven that millimeter waves can effect the electrical potential of the heart. Just weaponize that capability, maybe design the typical 5g tower to implicitly be capable of it. They called it schizophrenia that your router can spy on you until they revealed that wifi radar is actually real
>>64250540>I know a Q-tard engineerHow? The kind of things these people claim can be worked out and shown to be bullshit? I'm working on my license. Are you telling me there's some faggot out there that completed this and is still retarded enough to believe Q shit?
>>64253124It's a really intriguing phenomenon. The faggots on Usenet used to call it the Salem hypothesis.>The Salem hypothesis is an old chestnut from talk.origins. It was proposed by a fellow named Bruce Salem who noticed that, in arguments with creationists, if the fellow on the other side claimed to have personal scientific authority, it almost always turned out to be because he had an engineering degree. The hypothesis predicted situations astonishingly well—in the bubbling ferment of talk.origins, there were always new creationists popping up, pompously declaiming that they were scientists and they knew that evolution was false, and subsequent discussion would reveal that yes, indeed, they were the proud recipient of an engineering degree.One potential reason is that engineers aren't usually taught to think *too* critically. They follow standards and codes and base their solutions on preexisting schemes, and when a problem arises in their designs they rarely take a holistic approach. There's also the question of background, civil engineers probably come from religious/conspiracy theory-believing backgrounds more often than researchers. And with all due respect, you don't have to be terribly smart to get most career *titles,* smarts are really only needed to be competent and even then, they're not always necessary. I'm a med student in a third world country, so I know all about that.
>>64253201>I'm a med student in a third world country, so I know all about that.Were you that Omani from /his/ that talked about moving to America?
>>64253201I didn't know about that hypothesis. I know that the degree doesn't require a genius, but it is a lot of work, so it just feels like a gut punch to see someone that has some basic reasoning skills not employ those skills when it comes to deeper questions, not just figuring out if a circuit is code-compliant.
>>64253217>basic reasoning skillsNot needed for an engineer.
>>64253216I'm not, but I am from a Muslim country too.>>64253217It's always somewhat disheartening to learn that we have to share a world with stupid people, but it's worth it for all the interesting and smart folks around. Remember that your presence and work makes the world a better place for all the great people you know (and the ones you don't), that's what keeps me going. Love you, anons.
>>64244461So here's a bit of a related question, /k/. How would you assassinate someone with plausible deniability if you were a spook? Like this isn't some targeted state-level campaign. This is you taking care of something that came up at work and you will get no help other than that which you can secure with yourself and your GTC. Yes, you still have to fill out the voucher.
>>64253248You need even less for medicine. The field is completely brain dead and populated entirely by actual p-zombies. At least engineers get to make cool tangible stuff.
>>64253260How much time do I have? Mugging gone wrong is a classic, put on picrel, wait for him to go somewhere secluded and proceed to plug him wit da 40 glawk.
>>64253317Eh, the murder rate in most western countries isn't that high. That would certainly be investigated, especially if you were somewhere like Japan.
>>64244461USA Glowies can shoot a guy twice in the back of the head and rule it a suicide. Russian glowies can sprinkle funny powder on your personal belongings and vanish lickity split. Mystery guns are unnecessary.
People are so fascinated by intricate conspiracies and wunder weapons that they forget that these are government entities that can do almost whatever they want and change history to fit their story. Even if they did develop such a gun, it is infinitely cheaper to just kill a guy, dump his body out of a building, and sah he committed suicide.
>>64253489>Even if they did develop such a gun,Like the space pen it was developed by a private company.The design documents and physical examples still exist.
>>64253494So they did develop it. Even so that still helps my point, that they almost definitely found thaf it was far easier just to say suicide than explain mass sudden heart attacks.
What are the chances of this no longer being true because the islamic dumbfucks uploaded it on the internet, of which Israel has plenty and they'd definitely developed a countermeasure for morosn with SPG9s getting too close to their tanks?
>>64253501It did not cause heart attacks.
>>64244461its not an prototype.they have several different weapons .
>>64244461Why do you think we don't?
>>64245021Pretty sure you can't inject fentanyl intramuscularly, so you would have to somehow get it in the bloodstream without destroying it like you would with a bullet.
>>64249869>They definitely throw shit at the wall to see what sticks,IDK, when they're throwing shit at the wall we tend to get things like the 'psychic superspies' program, or the 'futures trading will definitely let us build a casino that will predict terrorist attacks!'.
>>64253650You can, you just need a slightly higher dose and it has a slower onset.
>>64244666Well, it causes paralysis. This typically stops the breathing muscles before it stops the heart, but the end result of not breathing is still a heart attack. As in, the heart stops.
>>64244461>extremely deadly poison that kills on contact>stick it in a Gunfor wat purpose???Russia does fine hiding it inside magazine cologne samples and on the tips of umbrellas
>>64253712This guy knows his opioids.
Hell it even works subcutaneously, don't even need to go that deep.
>>64253106Where is the cellphone getting the energy to do that?
>>64253260B&E gone wrong, mugging aren't super common but B&Es are. Some people theorize that the Brabant Killers committed some of their armed robberies as cover for targeted assassinations against political enemies and even today they were never caught and this is regarded as a conspiracies theory because "robber who got nervous" will draw less heat than "professional hitman"
