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/arg/ broken containment edition

Previously
>>64246837
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I love the AR-15
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schizo cabrón
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The FBI released the man they had in custody, after Patel told the country they had the assassin. Now they're conducting a manhunt.
The government is way too incompetent to justify all these conspiracy theories.
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>>64248613
It was either Israel or it was a looney troon
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>>64248613
Just what a bot would say, interesting
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>>64248613
If it was a groyper they'd want it to be something they could easily peg as "antisemitic" in order to bring down Fuentes in a poetic statement kind of way AR15
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I'm ngl this shih feel uncomfy, oddly enough it does remind me of how I felt on 9/11. Just kinda shock and a bummer.
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hmm
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I think I’m gonna build the recommended high tier rifle from the pastebin, specifically the socom barrel one. I think it’ll be neat
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What's everyone's go-to for range ammo? Grain and brand/price?
I'm still working through some $0.41 IWI M855 I got from midway when they were clearancing but I'll need to stock up soon
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>>64248646
I mean any cheap m193 and m855 is good, but AAC makes a pretty affordable 77gr otm
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Rocksett and torque yer fightan carbinez
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Good night sweet prince
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>>64248809
The fuck is this?
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>>64248815
Gun
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>>64248827
>Utah
I should have known
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Monolithics are cool
That is all
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>>64249100
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>>64249100
I want an LMT Specwar but I don't want an LMT.
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>>64248618
>Israel
I feel like this is just browns trying to cope with a conspiracy theory before we find out it was just a violent angry brown that got in through our leaky borders and killed a guy who historically supported Israel.
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There's something that really appeals to me about OD Green rifles, though I'm also a fan of FDE.

You can all laugh at me, but I will post my Australia-legal AR15, which is pump action. Yes, that is a limiter in the magazine. Can't go over 10 rounds.

Say what you will, but the MPR Mini made in Australia is the envy of the firearm community, and it costs about $3000.
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>>64249165
and before anyone asks, gun ownership is skyrocketing down under
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>>64248578
Bless. Going to see how I make out with drilling a bipod mount on aluminum tube but this is plan B/future build territory. Looks very nice.
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>>64249236
>>64248529 Meant for
> >>64248529
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Huge tragedy but genuinely how the fuck do they not even have an inkling of the suspect. Post your hypothesis on loadout and how they did it, do you think it was planned or relatively impulsive?
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>>64248598
Patel is famously an incompetent Indian that got his position for loyalty alone.
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>>64249401
>mostly well placed shot from 200yds
>no follow up shots on main target or shooting into the crowd
I'm betting it was a cheapo savage or other big box store bolt action hunting rifle. As to how they got away I find it almost impossible unless he had help. He was standing on top of a building that he had to get down from. Are you really telling me there were no cameras anywhere?
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>>64249401
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>>64249464
"Empathy is a new age term that does a lot of damage" - Charlie Kirk
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>>64249401
How are zoomers this fucking retarded? “Oh wow it’s been 12 HOURS already and they haven’t identified a suspect???” Even if they have they aren’t telling you who it is. The fact that they haven’t released any security footage yet tells me they know a lot more than you think they do. If they needed the public to identify him or submit tips they’d have released something by now. It’s either that or they legitimately have no clue because whoever did it blended in well enough that they have no way to know for sure who it was even with security camera foootage.
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>>64249553
Would it be schizo to suggest mossad was involved considering Charlie was recently starting to turn against Israel?
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>>64249553
Kash Patel immediately claimed that they had a suspect and then had to backtrack lol so no if they had them they would have immediately said as much and used it to further the narrative that this is because lefties
>>64249571
What, if anything, did Charlie Kirk said critical of Israel?
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>>64249577
https://trt.global/world/article/c915eadce012
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>>64249553
Im guessing it was Iranian backed or something, the Israel angle seems to be a distraction or a cope by people who want it to always be da joos.
>>64249571
It would be incredibly stupid to just shoot him in a high profile assassination when they could easily just destroy his reputation to make him go away. He's not a former Nazi party member he was a Zionist with doubts.
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>>64249401
Also my first guess is an sig rattler with subsonic .300 black and a magnified red dot. Although people are saying there’s a supersonic crack in the video. I don’t know whether that’s true or it’s just natural reverb from the buildings or shot impacting behind Charlie. Whatever it was had to be small enough to fit in a backpack or under a jacket. A 10.3 with a law folder could plausibly fit that description. A ruger pc carbine takedown in 9mm could have done the job. I mean, even a flux raider could have made that shot pretty easily.
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>>64249577
Hate to link leddit however it's the only place I can find the interview where he says he's becoming afraid for his life over what he's said about Israel. Also remember Bibi was one of the first people to make a tweet in regards to his death.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1ndwqfv/charlie_kirk_was_scared_for_his_life_lately/
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>>64249590
200 yards with subsonic is a hell of a shot, Id day it was a 5.56 AR broken down
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>>64249587
The first two quotes are criticizing "secular" Jews for supporting universities because he believes antisemitism shouldn't be condoned lol. Idk the rest looks like lip service to his dumber base. Got anything better?
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>>64249599
What the fuck even Redditors think banning guns wont solve this now. Everyone can see the problem.
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>>64249577
I said identified you subhuman. That means if they know who he is but haven’t caught him they’re not going to tip the public off until he’s apprehended. That’s standard police protocol. Learn to read.
>>64249577
He started waiiing back his support for Israel after some recent events. He criticized bibi for cancelling Israeli presidential elections under emergency order in one of his more recent podcasts.
>>64249588
I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem like it was an amateur. I’m not saying that because the shot was difficult, I’m saying that because he took one shot and immediately skidaddled. An amateur would likely panic and fire more shots or do something that would get them caught on the way out. You have to be extremely level headed to follow a plan like that and not attract unwanted attention when you exit.
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>>64249615
>He criticized bibi for cancelling Israeli presidential elections under emergency order in one of his more recent podcasts
Was it a soft criticism because everything referenced so far makes it seem like he would never be Anti-Israel but he wasn't pro-Israel enough, but still pro Israel.
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>>64249602
It was 140 yards or so. If he aimed for the scalp with a subsonic 100 yard zero or for the chest with a 50 yard zero the impact would line up. It could very well have been a suppressed 5.56 like a mk18 with a law folder and 77gr. The bullet wasn’t traveling fast enough for massive hydrostatic damage so whatever it was had to be going relatively slow, like under 1800fps
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People trying to paint Charlie Kirk simultaneously as a moderate conservative with very normie views but also a rabble rouser that was upending Israeli dominance in conservative circles. If that was the case why would they kill him, someone who defended them, rather than Nick Fuentes
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>>64249622
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOcQt11gUOz/?igsh=MWpvdzdidm5rbWkyeg==
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>>64249625
>140 yards or so
How do you know/where did you read this
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How is it even possible to get on top of a building with out even a single camera on property capturing video of you? On most college campuses there are cameras literally everywhere.
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>>64249629
There are conservative voices that are far, far more critical of Israel. This doesn't seem that bad but you think it was enough to kill him despite him ultimately still being pro-Israel. If anything that clip makes him seem pro-Israel and Netanhayu was not pro Israeli enough for him
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>>64249627
Well for one thing nick Fuentes doesn’t leave his house. He knows there’s a target on his back. And they can just say he’s nuts and a conspiracy theorist. Charlie was the most normie of all of them, if he started turning then it’s actually over for Israel. He was their last shabbos goyim. Tucker has gone 1488, Rogan turned on Israel, Shawn Ryan, basically all conservative influencers aside from shills like Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk. I think this may have been a way for them to send a message to dudes like Tucker and Rogan.
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>>64249637
I said this last thread and everyone handwaved my disbelief away as if it was unreasonable to be confounded
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>>64249631
Someone calculated the distance on Google Maps, and it was around 125m. If the shot was fired from the roof people think it was. which would be consistent with either a 100 yard scalp hold or 50 yard upper chest hold.
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>>64249643
This is a stretch desu and nick Fuentes goes outside a lot he even did an interview with Kanye and he's extremely popular online.
>kill least resistant detractor
>to send message to people they already lost
Do you really believe this
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>>64249645
Because you fucking retard even if they have the footage they’re not going to release it immediately and compromise their investigation. God you’re stupid.
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>>64249650
How did they calculate the distance on Google maps when we don't know where the shooter was?
>people think it's this roof
Why was anyone seen
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>>64249656
You're right the FBI is very competent and Kash Patel didn't blow his load 2 hours after the shooting claiming he had the suspect lol
Are you the hg schizo who tipped off the FBI lmao
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>>64249657
There’s a video of someone on one of the roofs. We don’t know for sure that’s why I said if that’s the roof he fired from.
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>>64249660
Can you link the video
>It was 140 yards or so
post didn't mention the roof
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Has anyone seen Vicious lately? You know, the tripfag with a mk12 that frequently practices long range shooting out in the utah desert and trooned out once?
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>>64249663
I’m not going to save and repost all the Infograph’s for this thread. You can look on /pol/ if you’re actually interested.
>>64249659
Shut the fuck up retard they found some guy on a bicycle with an air rifle and kash Patel is an idiot. go fuck yourself shitbull rapist
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>>64249669
Lot of the weirdos have been quiet recently and live within a few days drive of Utah.
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>>64249669
Just say it don't dance around it like a bitch
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>>64249669
Who also works for the DoD? No I haven’t seen him/her lately.
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>>64249670
I didn't ask for infographics I asked for a video.
>emotional tantrum because I pointed out suspect still at large
but yeah they wouldn't reveal info on who they think it is because they don't want help apprehending a criminal they're hunting.
>they already know who it is probably
>they're just unable to find him
>they are unwilling to ask the public for tips
do you seriously believe this despite no other shooter manhunt going like this you colossal no guns retard?
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>>64249677
>Who also works for the DoD
Proof?
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>>64249590
>natural reverb from the buildings
Either you are retarded, haven't watched the videos, deaf, never shoot beyond 200 yards or some combination of the four.

https://files.catbox.moe/y5v72l.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/dqf03y.mp4

First video confirms a supersonic round. Second video reveals no delay in sound reports which means the shooter was 100 to 125 yards away at most
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FBI literally asking for tips
>The FBI has set up a digital media tip line for information regarding this shooting. That tip line is fbi.gov/UtahValleyShooting.

>I know there are a lot of questions. This is very much an active case, and this investigation is in its early stages. We are following all the leads and the evidence.

>If anyone has any information, please report to the FBI or local law enforcement.

byeah they definitely know who it is
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>>64249685
I will say this ONE TIME because you’re obviously so low iq you can’t comprehend this. It is STANDARD police procedure to withhold suspect information during the initial investigation because they don’t want the suspect to know that they’re onto them and give them incentive to flee.
>but hurr durr why would the cerps hide their royal flush on the flop when they could just brag to the public about it before the hand is played. Why wouldn’t they tell the public who have no ability to find or arrest him so they can interfere with law enforcement
lol. Absolute nigger take
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>>64249690
Is it me or in all the videos does it sound like a suppressed rifle? Like something in 308
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>>64249669
Don't forget he has a SCAR too
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>>64249701
>heh they haven't posted about me, they haven't caught on yet
do you actually believe this
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>>64249705
Clearly it was a m240b not a bump stock
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>>64249705
>308
Unnecessary and unlikely. We already saw what a round of 5.56x45 did to a bicep so the shooter probably used an AR-15.
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>>64249724
Ok then tell me one incentive law enforcement has to release information if the suspect isn’t in custody yet. To cause panic, incite vigilante justice, have retarded schizos driving all around town trying to find the guy? There’s no incentive. The police use the public as a last resort when they’ve run out of resources.
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>>64249742
Yeah but with rittenhouse that was at point blank range
>ar15
Why would this guy take a single shot with 5.56 and cross his fingers that it does the job instead of firing several rounds? I get the feeling this was a bolt action gun
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>>64249690
I’m not trust a phone microphone to give me conclusive evidence on anything. It does sound like it could be a supersonic crack but it could also be microphone clipping. It doesn’t really matter though cause the gun they used is sort of irrelevant at this point.
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>>64249685
Why don’t you read this instead of running your 70iq mouth for once
https://www.discoverpolicing.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/239752_IACP_SharingInfo_p4.pdf
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>>64249750
So is the FBI already on its last resort since it's asking for tips already?
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Supposedly the gun has been found and it's a Mauser 30-06 bolt action rifle.
https://x.com/scrowder/status/1966118431511433267
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>>64249783
Is the argument here that they have everything under control and we shouldn't question the process
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>>64249793
Holy fuck. Ok big schizo. They set up tip lines for every high profile investigation. Even if they had the suspect located they still want people to submit tips they might have regarding motives or additional conspirators. That doesn’t mean they’re going to release security camera footage and go hurr durr dis dey nigga we lookin fo. You actually say something really retarded and then gaslight and argue semantics until you feel like you’ve won on a technicality which is an absolutely retarded way to live.
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>>64249801
No the argument is that even if they fucking know who it is they’re not telling YOU right now. And that sometimes it takes longer than 12 hours to investigate a crime. Zooomers seem to think crimes are solved within the span of their attention and that all details are made public immediately.
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>>64249809
I genuinely don't understand what you're saying because the original post you (you)d was me being surprised the shooter got away. You starting spazzing about police protocol when that wasn't really the point. You're the one arguing semantics unless you think he didn't get away or something I don't know what you actually think
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>>64249818
Oh okay well my argument is "wow I can't believe he got away" so we agree with each other.
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>>64249821
Fuck off dude I don’t even remember the origins argument because you’ve been shifting goalposts every reply. I said MAYBE they know who he is and aren’t telling us because they haven’t apprehended him yet or MAYBE they have no idea who it is at all. Now I’m done arguing. I’m done talking to you. You’re the most annoying smooth brained lolbertarian retard on this board and I actually hate you. So kindly fuck off.
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>>64249794
This is fake. If they found the gun yesterday big schizo would have been informed. They have to tell the public all the details of these investigations or they’re incompetent.
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>>64249794
>I was just looking for sporterized rechambered Mausers
I'm on another list bros...
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>>64249832
Okay? Then why did you respond to me at all? You don't seem level headed or emotionally rational. Can you own an AR-15?
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FBI just confirmed it in their press conference it was a "high power" bolt action rifle.
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>>64249847
That makes sense why they haven’t released security footage yet. They have the weapon, and they know how it was transported. It’s likely they have footage of the suspect and they’re conducting forensic examinations of the areas xhe was seen in. I’m sure they’ll find something to connect the dots here within the next 24 hours whether it’s fingerprint or dna, license plates, etc.
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>>64249839
Passive aggressive and catty of you anon
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>>64249862
>That makes sense why they haven’t released security footage yet.
wait why?
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>>64249793
Didn't they ask for tips with Luigi?
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>>64249859
>I didn’t win my little argument so I’ll just attack your personal character
Living with you must be an actual nightmare.
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>>64249876
They also posted pictures and videos of him within 24 hours
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>>64249865
That’s not passive aggression lol.
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>>64249877
What argument do you think we're having???
>>64249832
>Now I’m done arguing. I’m done talking to you. You’re the most annoying smooth brained lolbertarian retard on this board and I actually hate you. So kindly fuck off.


>I didn’t win my little argument so I’ll just attack your personal character

literally crying out as you strike me. Very Jewish of you! Lmao. You can't contain yourself, zero impulse control
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>>64249891
>not replying directly to bb
>complaining about bb
>Passive-aggressive behavior is a way of expressing negative feelings, such as anger or resentment, in an indirect and unassertive way rather than through direct confrontation

how is it not passive aggressive? Both passive and aggressive, literally
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>>64249893
You drugged and raped a girl in 2020. Very Jewish of you and lacking in impulse control.
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>>64249897
>attacking my character because you didn't win an argument
Every accusation is a confession. You probably raped someone and need to project no guns brownoid. Low impulse control, anon. Not very becoming of you
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>>64249896
He can read the thread and I mentioned him by name. That’s direct aggression. Passive aggression would have been less direct and more ambiguous. I have fully asserted that I hate him several times already. Nothing passive about that at all.
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>>64249902
Indirect doesn't mean you don't mention him it means you don't confront him. You passively (not directly to him) were aggressive, so that's passive aggressive
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>It's not passive aggressive if I don't shut up about someone and shit up the thread!
Oh so you're faggot aggressive
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>>64249645
>>64249832
It hasn't even been an hour. Are you that upset you aren't thinking straight?
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>>64249925
Why are you obsessed with a random avatarfag
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>>64249900
>>64249905
>>64249906
>>64249916
>>64249929
Samefagging
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>>64249943
>>64249942
ya blew it
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>>64249929
That’s fishy btw. The image sequence lines up with his iPhone and lazily executed ai memes are his speciality.
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>>64249943
We could have had something nice here and yet you decided to shit the bed.
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Mr President a second 1 hit the combo
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I'll try again

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>>64249949
>9/11 reference
this works on many levels
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>>64249950
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>>64249945
Something fishy about these fishy posts.
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>>64249959
He doesn't taste like that anymore
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No one has mentioned the school shooting in Denver
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>>64249975
>Double standards
This projection cant be healthy when the right wasnt gleefully cheering.
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>>64249975
>this young guy who spoke at college campuses about conservative values is the same exact person as corrupt life long politicians
They’re insufferable
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>>64249983
There were people last thread that were justifying it and not necessarily criticizing or showing empathy
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>>64249987
So of it was a conservative politician it would be okay?
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>>64249988
Oh yeah, they justify it then cry about how Right wingers aren't bawling over leftists dying. They demand we mourn them and allow them to gravedance on us.
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>>64249995
Empathy is a weakness
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>>64249988
Ok and if the roles were reversed and it were rhinos would anyone care? Probably not. This wasn’t some dirty politicians that got mixed up in a corrupt election it was a young man that speaks about moderate conservatism.
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>>64250000
For brown people in low trust societies.
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>>64249994
There are very few uncorrupted politicians.
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>>64250009
Charlie Kirk didn't believe in empathy and criticized it. I was just quoting him
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>>64250012
What kind of drugs compelled you to spew this nonsense?
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>>64250011
So is the answer yes?
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>>64249975
There dont need to be "kind words" all you need to say is "this is unacceptable in America" and nothing more. Which is exactly what was said when the Hortmans were killed. Yet, you cant bring yourselves to say even that for Charlie.
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What AR15 brand best encapsulates this feel?
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>>64250018
>yourselves
I think his death is a tragedy. Who are you talking about, every liberal politician has expressed sorrow and empathy
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>>64250024
Democrats literally booed during a minute of silence in Congress.
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>>64250015
I'm just quoting the man who was unjustly killed. Did you not know he said that or are you calling him brown for that belief?
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>>64250024
I've seen more than enough on social media. Additionally, the politicians who express "sorrow and empathy" just yesterday called people like Charlie "threats to democracy" and "fascists".
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>>64250032
Again what are you consuming to generate such false claims?
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>>64250031
Context?
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>>64250032
You're misquoting a statement from an argument.
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>>64250042
Context is Dems booed during a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk in the House.
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>>64250047
>>64250041
https://x.com/rugby_kiss/status/1965875003490259060/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1965875003490259060&currentTweetUser=rugby_kiss

what was the argument?
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>>64250053
Your link doesn't work retard
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>>64250032
>>64250012
Kirk said he preferred the term "sympathy" to "empathy" in terms of political messaging
>So the new communications strategy for Democrats, now that their polling advantage is collapsing in every single state… collapsing in Ohio. It's collapsing even in Arizona. It is now a race where Blake Masters is in striking distance. Kari Lake is doing very, very well. The new communications strategy is not to do what Bill Clinton used to do, where he would say, "I feel your pain." Instead, it is to say, "You're actually not in pain." So let's just, little, very short clip. Bill Clinton in the 1990s. It was all about empathy and sympathy. I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage. But, it is very effective when it comes to politics. Sympathy, I prefer more than empathy. That's a separate topic for a different time.
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>>64250051
It wasn't a moment of silence

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/watch-dems-republicans-clash-house-floor-following-moment-silence-charlie-kirk.amp

>>64250041
>Again what are you consuming to generate such false claims?
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>>64250062
It was a moment of silence, you're also just taking Kirk out of context. You're extremely troon coded.
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>>64250058
he doesn't say in that quote that he thinks sympathy is a better word than empathy, he says empathy is a made up new age term and that it does a lot of damage. He doesn't say sympathy means the same thing as empathy and he doesn't imply he only thinks that to extent of political messaging.
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>>64250053
>what was the argument?
Here: >>64250058

You're regurgitating something someone told you about Kirk instead of actually trying to find out what he said. Which is a common theme with him, people told you he was a bad guy and you just think he was. If you had actually taken the time to find out who he is and what he is about, you would realize that - although you disagree with him - he's a pretty nice guy.
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>>64250067
I just quoted the video actually. I am taking him at face value but you're saying I shouldn't and he didn't actually mean what he said?
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>Tranny comes in to defend his violent kin
Figures the damage control starts when we found out it was a pro troon shooter.
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>>64250066
You're trying to argue with me when his exact words are right there for everyone to see?
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>>64250071
I posted exactly what he said. Its very easy for you to accept that you're wrong and move on. Your refusal to do so indicates that you're not operating in good faith. So, we are done here.
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>>64250073
We are literally arguing over the meaning. He did not say verbatim and "in the context of political messaging I prefer the term sympathy to empathy" that is what you're claiming his words mean. You're saying I should take that phrasing literally in what you quoted?
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>>64250077
I am wrong that he said that or am I wrong about what it means? What do I think it means because I haven't really expressed that. You just said the quote was missing context, not that I misquoted him, I think the context is unconvincing when reading the text under your interpretation
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>>64250079
>He did not say verbatim and "in the context of political messaging I prefer the term sympathy to empathy" that is what you're claiming his words mean
Again, his words are right there for everyone to see
> I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage. But, it is very effective when it comes to politics. Sympathy, I prefer more than empathy. That's a separate topic for a different time.

You're arguing with me about verifiable reality itself. Very troon-coded.
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>>64250083
You misquoted him and you're wrong about what it means. Because your opinion is based on a headline and not what was actually said.
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>>64250085
>That's a separate topic for a different time.
what does this mean. As far as I understand him he thinks empathy is a made up, new age term and does a lot of damage. He says it's effective in politics. Where is he saying he actually thinks empathy in general is a good thing? Has he ever expressed that? Because otherwise I'm right, he doesn't like the concept of empathy.
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Its a tranny stop arguing with it
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>>64250091
I quoted him exactly, where or when did I misquote him?
>>64249480
>>64250012
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>>64250092
>he doesn't like the concept of empathy.
He prefers the concept of sympathy.

You're avoiding this because it destroys your whole "Im allowed to be callous because [I think] he said its okay to be callous!"

Whatever dude. We're done with this.
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>>64250077
It’s big boss. He will argue technicalities and shift goalposts with you for hours until you’re exhausted. Just give up now.
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>>64250098
Preferring something after saying you believe something else is a new-age made up term and think it's dangerous means you're actually okay with that but just prefer calling the same concept a different word? You could quote him saying anything good about empathy as a concept at any time but you want me to reinterpret his words to say what he isn't literally saying and you're accusing me of misquoting him?
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>>64250095
Yep.
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>>64250109
It’s not a tranny, it’s big boss. You can tell by his writing style. He does this every single time we discuss politics.
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>>64249742
That's different in many ways. The neck is not the same as the bicep. Bicep is solid muscle, neck is stringy muscles with a windpipe. Also like anon alluded to, velocity is important. You can't expect rounds to behave like that at every distance.
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>>64250098
>What is Suicidal Empathy and Is It Destroying the West?

https://thecharliekirkshow.com/podcasts/the-charlie-kirk-show/what-is-suicidal-empathy-and-is-it-destroying-the-west

I just listened to this and he doesn't think empathy is a virtue itself, he was at the very least critical of too much empathy
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>>64250131
>Against "Toxic Empathy" in the American Church ft. Allie Beth Stuckey

https://thecharliekirkshow.com/podcasts/the-charlie-kirk-show/10-16-hour-2-v1

I don't think it's a bad faith argument to think he wasn't sympathetic (lol) to empathy
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>>64250123
If it was the rifle they’re claiming it was then it was almost certainly a commercial 30-06 cartridge of which most are downloaded to .308 spec these days. it’s also possible that it was sawn off to make it more concealable which would affect velocity tremendously.
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>>64250143
>it’s also possible that it was sawn off to make it more concealable which would affect velocity tremendously
pure speculation
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>>64249896
>bb
Don't talk about yourself in the third person.
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>>64250123
>>64250143
If you look at the slowed down footage you can see the round hit his chest and then deflect off and hit his neck. He was wearing body armor and it turned what may have been a survivable shot into a instantly fatal one.
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>>64250131
>>64250141
Shut the FUCK up big boss nobody cares about your interpretation of what Charlie Kirk said one time. You are so unbelievably annoying.
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>>64250153
>steel plates
damn we tried to warn him
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>>64250128
ffs I told you how to do it yesterday.
>>>/fit/76599387

>>64250143
So even lower velocity.
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>>64250154
>one time
>three examples, two whole podcast episodes about it
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Big Boss is just trying to give context why we shouldn't mourn him when he dies.
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>>64250107
BB, you're only functionally illiterate. That's the only conclusion here. Its pretty obvious what he was saying and that in his view empathy and sympathy are two distinct concepts. He's also couching his argument within the confines of political messaging and its not really being made within a moral framework.

Basically, you're too stupid to comprehend an argument made by some dude w/o a college degree.
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>>64250153
I'm not buying that angle. Spalling would have fucked his shit up in every direction. Bullets don't just ricochet in one clean piece. I've worn a plate carrier under a tshirt before and it sticks out like crazy. Also it's a white shirt so darker colors stand out. Not buying any of that.
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>>64250153
He wasn’t wearing body armor. You can see his nipples through the shirt.
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>>64250171
>You can see his nipples through the shirt.
Not the time but my neurons just brought up that old Trump tweet.
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>>64250171
This is a hilarious way to say that
>>64250164
I think his death is a tragedy and it's sad he died, I think it's especially horrifying it was in front of his children. I was the only one last thread to insist we focus on mourning and celebrating Charlie vs immediately fantasizing about civil war and bloody retribution and was called a liberal for that. I simply think it's a tragedy.
>>64250169
Okay what about his interpretations of empathy on the two podcasts
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>>64249945
Fishy is in the 6000's.
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>>64250160
I didn’t read all the articles and I’m not the one arguing with you about it but this is your typical “you said one so I’ll be extremely specific and prove you wrong by pointing out that it was actually 3 times not once therefore everything I’ve said is right and you’re wrong” tactic. You’re too stupid to understand hypotheticals or metaphors. You’re on the same level of intelligence as a nigger who can’t understand per capita. All you do is argue semantics and try to win on technicalities. Stop spamming your room temperature iq takes. Everyone else in this thread knows what Charlie was alluding to, except you.
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>>64250181
>Okay what about his interpretations of empathy on the two podcasts
I'm not here to debate you. I'm here to point out that your either too fucking stupid or too much of an autist to comprehend plain English. Go away.
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>>64249975
>i dont remember it so it didnt happen
These fucken people.
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>>64250170
Soft armor + lead + weird angle could cause a deflection, no?
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>>64250209
Why are you trying to prove some schizo theory of armor deflection? Does it even matter what he was wearing or where he got hit? He’s dead. He wasn’t wearing armor by the way. But it wouldn’t matter at all if he was because he’s dead. This isn’t a conspiracy. He’s actually dead. So it doesn’t really matter where he got hit or what the bullet did because he’s dead. Someone shot him.
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>>64250193
>bb reported the post making fun of libtards
He’s actually unhinged
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>>64250188
>>64250192
I think you're unwilling to accept what he said and want to twist his words to mean something else and I don't know why it matters when his actions will always be more meaningful anyway. I could provide a quote by Charlie that said "I verbatim do not like the idea of empathy and don't believe in it" and you would insist it actually means he prefers sympathy. I think that's a bad faith interpretation and more dishonest than anything I have said or could have said in my own interpretation
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>>64250220
That was my post I made that someone else reported, retard. Can you go 3 minutes without a schizo passive aggressive babbling
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>>64250209
No. Soft armor doesn't deflect. Soft armor catches things like a net. Rifle rounds go straight through soft armor.
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>>64250221
If a genie granted me three wishes I’d use of of them to permanently filter your posts.
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>>64250223
>every other post in arg is mine
Yeah we knew this already
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>>64250072
He's been at it since yesterday. He does this every time.
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>>64250235
Every time Charlie Kirk dies we have to do this again
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>>64250240
Charlie Kirk died again?
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>>64250169
Big boss is jew coded.
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>>64249401
Just thought I'd dump a little info
>Rifle confirmed to be bolt action "high powered rifle" recovered in nearby wooded area
>Shooting location confirmed by video evidence as being the top of the roof apex 140yds away
>Shooter left roof on the outside via climbing per FBI
>Quickly left the scene and entered a nearby neighborhood
>Supposedly have clear shots of his face from videos but aren't releasing them yet, comment of agent in charge implies that there's something about his face that may not go over well

Option A: schizo in nearby neighborhood off his meds fired the shot, went back home, currently shidding and pissing them self until they match the video with a resident

Option B(more likely IMO): shooter was smart enough to park in an area without CCTV, probably in another state by now. Rifle purchase face to face. Could be a long slog to find him

If they don't find the guy this could get spicy, but they almost certainly will.
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>>64250229
I occupy a lot of your mental space. I don't think about you at all
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>>64250240
There you go again.
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>>64250245
Every time he dies this happens
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>>64250258
How many times must Charlie Kirk die before we stop letting this happen
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>>64250257
You occupy my mental space because you spam your dogshit rifles in a thread I read a dozen times a day. I’d forget about you an hour from now if you left and never came back. Maybe you should try doing that.
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>>64250251
What did he say exactly about the guy's face? Like it has a tattoo or something?
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>>64250261
You know that's not what I meant but you say this anyway.
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>>64250264
>you occupy my mental space
lol I know
>>64250266
Yeah but it's funny how many times must a Charlie die before we can call him a Kirk
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>>64250266
It’s just big boss throwing a temper tantrum and crashing out because we’re smarter than him and see through his room temperature hot takes. he’s been the hg schizo and pretty much every schizo since the beginning. Every time he doesn’t get his way he acts out and attacks people.
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>>64250271
this is hgsp
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>>64250270
You're a trekky aren't you? I knew I hated you for a good reason.
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>>64250274
Big Boss posted this
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>>64250157
Oh yeah thanks
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>>64250265
I’m assuming it’s either a hard coded trans or a brownoid. Judging from the type of rifle used and the 6+ inch point of impact shift it was probably stolen from a boomer who had it zeroed for the last deer season at 300 yards. So probably a tranny nigger? Idk lol.
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The scariest shit just happened. I looked over, and my AR wasn't next to me. I left it in the other room. Never making that mistake again.
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>>64250278
I have never watched Star Trek besides on the plane and in Hawaii but I would like to.
>>64250281
idk if that would be it because everyone is assuming it's a lefty trans so if that was the case I don't think it would upset people unless he was referring to libs
>>64250284
You need an ar15 in every corner of the house
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>>64250279
post ar
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I’m assuming based on the information that is being released that this was a botched center mass shot made with a stolen rifle by an amateur. Especially since they now state they have clear footage of his face. I doubt someone that stupid would have aimed for the head. Depending on the zero it could have easily impacted that far above the point of aim.
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>>64250299
Pretty lucky shot then
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>>64250291
Did I not just say a fucking nigger tranny? You don’t even read the shit you blog post reply to. Fuck off nigger. Never reply to me again.
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>>64250221
He verbatim says sympathy
> Sympathy, I prefer more than empathy.

This is literacy and comprehension issue, I suspect you lack an internal monologue as most people without one struggle with reading comprehension.
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>>64250305
I said I don't think it's a nigger tranny? What did you think I said?
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who cares about some dead kike, I had to watch the towers fall 24 years ago today
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>>64250299
People are shit shots and he was moving around a lot. I don't think the zero matters.
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>>64250308
He also verbatim said "I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage." We are not discussing the other part just the exact context and meaning of that statement. So I offered two podcasts where he discusses his belief of empathy at greater length. Not my fault you can't understand context or nuance
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>>64250309
I don’t know I often can’t tell what the fuck you’re trying to say because you’re basically illiterate and just word vomit whatever retarded idea flows through your pea brain.
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>>64250310
Nooooooo he was just a heckin innocent moderate and was totally based and hated the jews, he just said it in a weird way! But yeah they killed him for not supporting them hard ENOUGH ii guess
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>>64250297
You first
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>>64250317
>I don't know but I'm just yelling and angry anyway
funny how you accuse me not reading but openly admitted you failed to comprehend my very short and simple statement. Every accusation is a confession, anon.
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>>64250265
>Bhols says they have images of the suspect but "Can't comment specifically on his face"

Kinda abstract but to me this implies that there is something about his face that is somewhat unusual and identifying. "White male" would be immediately released by the FBI. Meanwhile "black/swarthy male" or "appears to be a transvestite" would not for political reasons, similarly facial tattoo of an octopus would be too identifying and confirm to the shooter than they were on to him and had very identifying info
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>>64250315
>Ye does not like empathy
>Yes, he prefers sympathy
>Yes! He does not like empathy
Conversational TKO
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>>64250324
Okay. surely you will post one now, right?
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>>64250330
Okay so we agree he didn't like the concept of empathy then
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>>64250333
You dont need to oil your optic mount.
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>>64250325
>idk if that would be it because everyone is assuming it's a lefty trans so if that was the case I don't think it would upset people unless he was referring to libs
>short and simple
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>>64250333
Oh its this schizo
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>>64250341
>This sentence is not simple!
Holy self own, ESL
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>>64250339
Your starting point was
>Empathy is a weakness
and
>Charlie Kirk didn't believe in empathy and criticized it. I was just quoting him
Both are objectively wrong as he believed in sympathy.
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>>64250341
Just a show of hands, who can easily comprehend this retarded word salad?
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>>64250340
It isn't
>>64250343
May I see your ar
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>>64250322
A missile bounced off but 5.56 won't? Its over, son
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I'm willing to stake my reputation that he used an AR-15 chambered in 5.56 NATO was 150 yards away [give or take 25] with no suppressor nor subsonic ammo.

>>64249773
>the gun they used is sort of irrelevant

This is the AR-15 general, no? You should be able to id the sound and range of one if you've actually had years of proper shooting experience at this point.

>>64249755
>rittenhouse that was at point blank range
Point blank means any range that doesn't require you to adjust your sights.

>instead of firing several rounds?
This shooter is more competent than Thomas Matthew Crooks.
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>>64250346
Wrong.
>>64249480

>>64250000
>>64250009
>>64250012
this post isn't referring to empathy is a weakness.
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>>64250353
I dont post guns for schizos, they make up weird grudges and freak if I post them ever again
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>>64250355
>I'm willing to stake my reputation that he used an AR-15 chambered in 5.56 NATO was 150 yards away [give or take 25] with no suppressor nor subsonic ammo.
So you're willing to be wrong? They already announced the gun he used.
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Do you understand who you're dealing with now?
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>>64250369
Even this confirms it's simple. Retardedly simple. Are you saying your IQ is BELOW 89? Lmao
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>>64250367
Pic or it didn't happen!
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he'd still be alive rn if you niggas aint gas him up
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>>64250371
sorry hgsp but no one thinks I'm the schizo shitting up the thread. You should just ignore my posts if you don't want to engage with them. You're your own worst enemy and tripping over your words to get an own on me when I'm simply not playing that game because I own ar15 and that's what I want to discuss. Admit right now Charlie Kirk's death is a tragedy without kvetching
>you can't
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>>64250379
Fishy?
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>>64250380
Everyone knows its you
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>>64250380
>no one thinks I'm the schizo
I told you to dial it down yesterday and you told me you didn't read it.
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>>64250380
>kvetching
Pastebin has a beak?
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>>64250392
>Hey big boss, not who you are replying to, but just shut the fuck up right now. This is not the time to be playing fuck fuck games with people. Let them blow off some steam for a bit. You're playing precrime thought police with people while a man is assuming room temperature. I know you think you're right but you're being a piece of shit right now. You need to learn when to shut up.

I am not the one that had a meltie in this thread because I was surprised the shooter was still at large. That was someone else. And in that post the "steam" is trying to get everyone riled up rather than focus on Charlie Kirk
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PB forgot his meds today
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>>64250364
Literally built for big diarrhea blowouts
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>>64250400
>>64250398
>he couldn't do it
You literally can't help proving me right, how embarrassing
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>>64250404
>I am not the one that had a meltie in this thread
I know you feel that way but you have been going at it hard for two days now. Funny that you knew exactly which post I was talking about.
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>>64250405
who's pb itt
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Extremely low quality thread today.
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>>64250412
because there was only one post I said I didn't read? It's funny you brought it up today not me lol
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>>64250413
Bb schizo turned on pb schizo and thinks he’s the anon he’s been arguing with. It’s very entertaining.
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>>64250415
One AR-15 poster and a bunch of anon derailers
>>64250419
I love PB I would never do that you filthy liar
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>>64250412
You’re not that guy, pal. Sit down and stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>64250415
Not surprised considering the recent happening. If you have an AR15 question ask it nothing is stopping you.
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>>64250421
>I posted my rifle again so therefore all the off topic blogs I posted are actually on topic
This is actually how his mind works lol.
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>>64250417
It's still relevant today because you are still doing your thing again. I was trying to help but you cannot be helped.
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>>64250426
I'm not the one that couldn't help responding to my post with vitriol and derailing the thread. You're free to post your Ar and reorient the conversation any time like I'm doing now: I love the surefire 60 rounder
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>>64250408
Why do you use Yiddish words though?
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>>64250426
Funny how BB and PB do it. Their guns are props
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>>64250432
His wife is a jew it's safe to say he is one too. >>64250364
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>>64250353
>It isn't
You slathered lubricant all over the optics mount on your shotty you slovenly peasant.
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>>64250427
I think his iq is so low that he can’t comprehend when he’s wrong, even when it’s explained to him like he’s 5 years old. He doesn’t understand abstract concepts or metaphors.
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>>64250432
Kvetching refers to how Jews do it, Jewishly. Like you, for example, very slyly and passive aggressive, unable to directly do or say anything but always underhanded
>>64250434
At least I have guns
>>64250427
I am allowed to blow off steam too, and you can't play thought police on my opinions so I agree
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>Oy vey dox yourselves after I baited you into a conversation so I can kvetch about you forever
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>>64250441
I actually lubed the bolt and some of it ran onto the mount so you're wrong it wasn't purposeful or what I did
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>>64250444
What are you blowing off steam about? You seem to be enjoying every bit of this. I thought you weren't mad?
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>>64250445
>post picture of my wife
>start passive aggressively yelling about it
do you ever get tired of being this way, it must be exhausting
>>64250450
You're supposed to enjoy blowing off steam, or are you miserable when you attempt catharsis
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>>64250448
>not wiping down your kit
Pig.
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He did the same thing in other generals by the way
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>>64250453
Kek even when he’s trying to use big words and getting ai to write parts of his posts he still scores under 100iq. He will tell you this is “clear and concise English”
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>>64250458
Who? I'm bb and I don't post in any other general
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Should I cut or bulk for my AR15?
>>>/fit/76599387
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>>64250444
Why are you upset? I was just teasing you a bit lol.
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>>64250465
Big boss has been crashing out for days. I guess since Jimmy left he has to attack anons again to get his daily drama fix.
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>>64250465
I'm chilling, I'm not the one who made this thread about me, posted my wife, or is putting all my posts through an "IQ estimator" lol. Whoever is doing that is very clearly upset
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>>64250458
Yes, but it’s funnier when it happens here.
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>>64250455
>What are you blowing off steam about?
That doesn't answer my question. What are you blowing steam off about?
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>>64250470
Hgsp/jimmy you keep using the term "crashing out" and it makes it very easy to spot you
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>>64250470
He thinks everyone else is crashing out not him.
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>>64250398
You're the same cunt responsible for this image and perhaps even the one who's been impersonating anons.
>>64250400
You however are the newfag from /hg/ that can't tell anyone apart.
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Hot take: charlie was shot to distract people from either/both the polish border incursion or the video released day before yesterday of a UFO shrugging off a hellfire missile
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>>64250364
Curry coded
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>>64250473
>posted my wife
Your jewish wife. We're all about being precise today. Your kids are jews too.
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>>64250478
BB needs his meds!
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>>64250477
I asked a lot of questions in this thread that weren't directly answered. I also don't feel like answering that because I don't think this is a good faith discussion, you're free to prove me wrong though
>>64250481
Every day he needs to find someone to bitch and moan about. Literally couldn't wait for Charlie to be buried before he used him as a political martyr he's actually psychotic.
Do you know how far back he had to scroll to find that picture of my wife? Lmfao
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>>64250490
>>64250491
Why are you crashing out?
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>>64250493
>crashing out
>im not crashing out! you’re crashing out!
>continues to crash out
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>>64250493
>I also don't feel like answering that
This is the closest you have been to honesty in days.
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>>64250481
Fishy made that image.
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>>64250499
I thought only one person used that term.
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>>64250505
I've been honest and upfront about everything, apparently it rustled Jimmy and now this thread is about me in a sociopathic way that normal people can't even pretend. Actually schizophrenia
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>>64250481
Pastebin this is not the time. He might be your only friend but you need to pick better friends.
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>>64250509
>>64250502
yeah jimmy/hgsp
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>>64250486
>UFO shrugging off a hellfire missile
The debris seemed to follow along with the craft. That shit is crazy.
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>>64250514
So you're Jimmy?
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>>64250512
look no one cares, okay?
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>>64250515
For real, gravity drive or manipulation of earths magnetic field confirmed for the propulsion method
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>>64250364
Incredibly pathetic to dig through the archive to find this anon. He has clearly buckbroken (You)
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>>64250510
You have not. Your jew brain doesn't perceive things the same way as us which is why I told you to shut up. I tried to help you.
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>>64250509
We don’t know because the fbi hasn’t released that information yet. Which also means the hg schizo escaped and they’re trying to cover it up. Or it’s a right winger. Could be both. Either way I don’t want to participate in this conversation because I feel it has been made in bad faith and Jimmy is stalking me and someone posted my wife
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>>64250518
which one's jimmy
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>>64250526
He had to scroll very far back. I didn't have a trip, haven't posted an image that I also posted on that thread, and it's a few years old. He was scrolling for a bit he was desperate
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>>64250526
It took five seconds
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>Be mentally ill
>Shit up thread
>Cry about a conspiracy of schizos gangstalking you when people figure out its you
Every day you do this.
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>>64250527
so because I don't interpret things like you it means I'm dishonest? That seems like a bad faith argument.
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>>64250539
>get bored of pastebin
>move on to the next poster
Every day you do this.
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>>64250534
This is extremely paranoid and delusional behavior bro. I think it might be time to get off the internet and check in with a psychiatrist or something. Before you hurt someone.
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>>64250545
Incredibly low effort deflection. You'll be thinking about me all day and I'll forget about this interaction until you bring it up again tomorrow.
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>>64250544
Huh?
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>>64250534
notice how he won’t post replies long enough for me to iq estimate now?
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>>64250539
Rent free
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>>64250555
Of course I live rent free in their heads
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What kind of ar15 does he have?
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>>64250552
That's me you responded to you disgusting retard false flagging piggy
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>>64250558
who's heads? Who are you thinking about that is occupying your mind and living there rent free?
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>>64250542
I'm not arguing I'm just saying you should lay off. I know you think you are winning but you have been a total asshole to everyone even the people who like you. Greatest ally my ass.
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>>64250566
Why are you crying and ranting about people noticing your bad behavior?
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>>64250548
>I'll forget about this interaction
NTA but this is part of the problem. You think nobody remembers the things you say but we all remember. You are not a new person every time you enter the thread.
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>>64250559
>triangle logo hat
illuminate
>>64250567
lay off what exactly? Like I said dude I'm not the one who made this thread about me, I made a post about them not catching the shooter and the schizo used that as an excuse. Like I said I'm blowing off steam too and I genuinely don't know what you're asking for. This isn't a hug box, this is the a real community, this is just arg and we're all just shitposting. Please don't act like this is reddit
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>>64250576
In the post you responded to i said you wouldn't forget. Do you lack reading comprehension. The point was that you care and think about me too much and you shouldn't let me have this power over you
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>>64250562
I linked your post to prove a point about your post not to reply to you. You’re actually retarded.
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>64250575
I accept that you're thinking of me rent free then
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>Im a good boy I dindu nuffin them anons be harrassin me an sheeit dey raycis against discord niggers
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>>64250578
>I genuinely don't know
I understand that. Which is why I stepped in to tell you to calm down. I'm doing it for your best interest and you still stab me in the back.
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>>64250586
>Said "he" but (you)d no other post
Hilarious backtracking attempt
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>>64250588
Kinda hard to think about nobody in particular.
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desert eagle ass pic plz
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>>64250592
Stab you in the back is not agreeing with you? Dude just accept that I am allowed to post here too and that it's not attacking someone to makes post disagreeing with them. I didn't stab you in the back because I don't know you, you're just another anon you could be anybody. It doesn't matter to me man and honestly it shouldn't, I SHOULDN'T care about you as an online entity because that isn't healthy
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>>64250364
Would
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>>64250595
Impulse control to not obsess over someone though?
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How does A2 get his face deleted so fast
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>>64250593
Again I WASNT REPLYING TO YOUR POST I WAS LINKING IT TO SHOW THAT YOUR POSTS ARE NOW SHORTER BECAUSE YOURE AFRAID OF GETTING IQ ESTIMATED. I WAS NOT REPLYING TO YOU. YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND CONTEXT.
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>>64250605
It really is your nature. It's inherent to your kind. You are a different species.
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>>64250615
A reasonable response to someone disagreeing with you. You sound like the lefties cheering murder.
>>64250614
I believe you bro, you definitely aren't back tracking and having an actual meltdown
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Fresh containment
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>>64250623
>>64250623
>>64250623
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>>64250624
I was reasonable yesterday. Today you are on your own.
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>>64250632
>you made me this way
Lol ok
>>64250626
I would have to be a pathetic man to give a shit what a clickbait website thinks of my shitposts
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>>64250608
Obsess over who?
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>>64250642
Melty anon really loves deep fakes for some reason.
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>>64250642
>this way
Yes I have reason. I can see when someone is bad and change my opinion of them.
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>>64249860
That makes sense honestly. Maybe the blood helped, but the entry wound looked pretty big. With 5.56 the entry wound is usually tiny and easy to miss but the exit hole opens up bigly. This does look a little more like a larger caliber round going in an out



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