>"wow this manga gets guns right">basically an inflated way of saying "i know how to aim a gun"
>>64248767Why do japs do this, anyway? The mangaka probably spent like 8 hours drawing these panels. Couldn't he have bothered to get it right?also>the Receiver is a part of a gun thag allows you to attach addons to the firearm.
>>64248788Japanese tend to treat gun stuff like it's arcane wizard knowledge. As a result, you get gun otakus hyper-focusing on procedural shit like this to flex how much they know about the forbidden science.
>>64248808Japan has a thriving market for deactivated guns and the closest American territories like Guam have gun ranges specialized on Japanese tourists.
>>64248808I REALLY wanna see some shit like, some jap ameriboo goes over to flaunt his gun 'knowledge' and gets shot down and proven wrong, would be fun to see
>>64248808Japanese treat everything like an arcane art though, part of the appeal of the culture
>>64248864Please don't do that. That how Imperial Japan happened.
>>64248767This is going to be a short thread.
>>64248864Nah. People from well-educated cultures don't act like that. They are very knowledgeable and they don't go dunning-krugering around on subjects they don't know.
>>64249013Japanese like to take pride in the fact they are "the only country with 4 seasons".
>>64248808Yeah, that sounds about right
>>64249020Always found this panel to be a bit silly because how accurate do you even need it to BEI recently sold my pre-B non short rail CZ 75 but that thing could shoot out the X ring at 25
>>64249015no you just fell for ragebait
>>64248867That and the weird thing about treating weapons as an extension / part of the wielder being a thing that goes all the way back to Samurai and their sword autism.
>>64248917kek
>>64248864You should read Upotte. The early chapters especially have a lot of "i know how this works" fuddlore that the author interjects. Some of it is right and some of it is very humorously wrong.
>>64249575>some of it is very humorously wrong.care to give some more info? it's always interesting
>>64248864Pathetic mindset to be quite honest
>>64248808The best part is that it's always the most basic shit, too.>>64249575That was such a weird era for /k/ where you had entire threads gushing over the show/manga parroting wikifacts like it was displaying some incredibly niche gunlore
>>64249658In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.Firearms are just one of many fields where the authors, often enough writer and artists in a single person, drop fairly basic trivia that come off as impressive to somebody that never bothered with the topic at all.
>>64248778>>64248788It's a pretty straightforward thing but it's not something you'd think about unless you actually own a gun (or are trying to pretend that you do) because this is almost never depicted in vidya or movies. I never once thought about how to make sure the sight is set up properly before actually getting one.
>>64249812Besides that's not even how most people do it, most people just stick on the scope and shoot to see if they're on paper and then adjust
>>64249688Remember, Japan has Extremely strict gun laws. Most of the info they get is 3rd hand at best.
>>64250618The Upotte author, Tennoji Kitsune, for instance has a collection of deactivated guns from a store called Chicago Rentals.There's got to be some that served in the Jieitai or police.
>>64248788>Why do japs do thistheir entire culture for many centuries was about near obsessive-compulsive levels of attention to detailwhen applied to work and the arts, they can pull off some really impressive feats
>>64248864The opposite happened, a Japanese autist who'd never fired anything but airshit went to some handgun competition in the US and won it. The prize was a super nice custom 1911 and he had to give it away to somebody else since he couldn't take it home. I've personally taken a bunch of westaboo japs shooting myself (pic related is my friend's wife) and almost all of them have been much better students and picked it up way quicker, while being safer, than noguns Americans I've been out with as well.
>>64250848I wonder what’s the process of getting those anyways since I know there are regulations for airsoft and model guns
>>64248788he just copied a photo
>>64250916>The "bakblast clir" spelllol>>64251312So much of anime weapons masturbation is pretty much this. I remember some /k/ommando awhile ago called anime artists "one note", and I haven't been able to stop thinking about that since. I mention this since so much of gun anime art is an autistic, nigh schematic level drawing of an M4 or some bullshit (you know the kind every high school boy has done in his school notes) and then a "frame an entire scene around the gun" kind of thing.
Not manga, but the detail is pretty incredible.How many can you identify?
>>64251734Man the scaling on that is all sorts of fucked up
>>64251816>if you remove the magazine [...] the slide retractsUhh
>>64251816Nice no recoil spring or any of the bottom of the slide. If you can't see it it doesn't exist.
In this manga, a man shoots a boxer through the ear hole with a .500 Nitro Express solid gold hollowpoint during a match. Amazingly, the man's head does not explode and paint the ring with his brains even though they just tried to explain to us just how powerful this weapon is. There's no exit wound either. Also, nobody hears the gunshot and they think the guy just got knocked out. Oh, and there's one more thing: the shot was hip-fired, with no worries about accuracy or recoil.
>>64251830The recoil spring is there, it's just... on the wrong bit
>>64251734Mars pistol (redhead), magazine is on the table in front of the red lined boxMadsen machine gun on top of the cabinet at the backVickers guns in the cabinet37mm pom-pom being cleaned by the blondeEither a punt gun or a wall piece behind her, I'm leaning towards the latter given the rifle-type sight and punt guns usually didn't have sights, you just looked down the barrel.On the table: 1911 lying flat, behind it on the rack: Webley, C96, I can't remember the 3rd one.Rack on the wall, top to bottom: SMLE, unknown (behind 37mm), Can't remember this one, Thorneycroft rifle.Table at the front left: some flavor of hammer double rifle but the cartridges don't look quite right. There are not many bottleneck cartridges of that size for double guns, and they tend to have very little taper at the neck. It's probably supposed to be something like .577/.500 Express or .577 Rewa. It could be .500 No. 100 4-1/8" but a) that's a really fucking rare cartridge and b) neck length is totally wrong.
>>64248767I like this bit from RED, of a guy that reloads his own ammo.Pretty neat character trait.
>>64251907>I can't remember the 3rd one.Bergmann-Bayard?
>>64249581>chick stands behind a curtain fountain >this makes her basically immune to intermediate rounds because their low mass means they're thrown severely off target by passing through the falling waterOne of those things that might be true on a very technical level but you'd never want to trust your life to a decorative water fixture like that.
>>64249658well that was over a decade ago and this board certainly skewed younger then than it does now, and we all liked cringe bullshit when we were teens and shit. like, I used to think Jormungand was pretty good when it was airing, but now I think that beyond the SEAL unit that was briefly shown it's fucking trash that, and, SoL moetards are always easily impressed bottom-feeders
>>64251910This guy should check his primer pockets
>>64251920That's it. I though it was some flavor of Bergmann.
>>64248864Masamune Shirow was that. 80-90s manga. Used to watch GSG9 or SAS training tapes for inspiration for his tactical police manga: Appleseed, Dominion, Ghost in the Shell. He wrote out his thoughts about firearms at length in companion documents to his comics and most of them were half fuddlore and half exactly from basic encyclopedias.This is one of his least bad 'flexes' where he worked to teach his readers about different types of firearms and ammunition. Most of his gun designs and military tech designs weren't very good, imo. Good writer otherwise, however.
>>64251907The one on the rack above the Thorneycroft is a Billinghurst percussion underhammer target rifle
>>64251960>Most of his gun designs and military tech designs weren't very good, imo.The guns looked hella good but the rest weren't that impressive
>>64251982He leans way, way too hard on the bug aesthetic for his vehicles.
>>64251910 RED fucking rules dude i hope someone makes a hate song replica
>>64251982>>64252016I like the bug mechs.Fuchikomas are cuties.
Naruhodo...
>>64252155I have played a bit of Steel Beasts and the German sights are unchanged from this eraMy grug brain couldn't get it so I always just did better with the Abrams auxiliary sight and similar stadiametric rangefinders
>>64249020>they lowered the grade of steel to western standardeach fucking time
>>64249581Like shit like this isnt technically untrue but its not really true either
>>64251960Masamune also did a crapton of porn.
>>64252266>didThat's all he does now
>>64251907>It could be .500 No. 100 4-1/8" but a) that's a really fucking rare cartridgeWestley Richards claims it was never produced (barring this modern remake), but I'm not sure that's true as there is data on it, and a photo, in Fleming's book on British sporting rifle cartridges.
>>64252266Just proof that artists shouldn't get rich young.
>>64251647>>64248788Its usually 3d models now. Literally every prop artist has made a 1911, AR or AKM or some kind as a project. There are thousands of free models of these online you can throw into Blender strip the textures off of and throw into Clip Studio to trace over. Even though it was anime. I was pretty sure they used a W2000 in Fate Zero solely because it's easier to draw over a model of. Then they broke out the calico and it was confirmed autism instead
>>64252383Meanwhile, back in the day you had people drawing this by hand.
>>64251960>Most of his gun designs and military tech designs weren't very good, imo.Gayest post on /k/ award.>>64251982>the rest weren't that impressiveSecond gayest post on /k/ award.
>>64252499The insectoid/arachnoid designs aren't very appealing
>>64251907.303 Vickers on the Rolls
>>64252016Yeeeahhhh, his whole "everything MUST have a thorax!" thing was kinda weird...
>>64248917>>64250874What are both of these from? Sauce please?
>>64248767I taught this to my PLT because the laser was fucked. They thought I was a wizard. It's harder on an M4 because you have to take the upper off and mount it somewhere secure, but it's totally doable.
>>64252217Di Gi Charat is fucking wild still. I feel like otaku culture of the past had a certain grimy feel to it that you no longer get with modern works. It's too sensitized, to appealing. You really had to be a weirdo to be into that shit back in the day. It's a little bittersweet to know that it's no longer that bizarre.
>>64252737>>64252737The whole point was that the weird fusion of organic and tech that people were doing to themselves was also reflected in the vehicles they used, it was just kinda cludgy and honestly not really needed
>>64253184I liked Rikudo's spin on GITS. Of course, it never did continue, but I would like more things like that. Not everything has to be so heavy.
>>64252266>that one chapter of Appleseed that's just the girls in a sauna, full frontal with bush and everythingI was really confused by that when I did finally bump into it. It felt really random, and I say that as someone who enjoyed Jyoshikohei, which has fully explicit and completely plot relevant lesbian rape.
>>64250870>Or so he said.
>>64252183Realistically they have the same energy performance as the difference at the muzzle won't make much of a difference at a distance. The 30-06 still had more powder than a 54r. The M118 and M59 can be better than 7n1.
I don't care about the gun autism as much as I enjoy japanese artists ability to dress up and make fantasy guns. Everyone calls them bugpeople with no imaginations and autism and whatever else but they're clearly the kings of fantasy firearm designs.Especially when you read comic books of the era and they were using liefeldian stuff.Also no one else shows any love to softbody armor, the coolest looking armor.
>>64250870saved. of all the guns i bought 10/22 is the most fun to shoot.
>>64249020I'm not sure where the author picked it up but that's ANCIENT fuddlore. I have an old Gun Digest or similar book somewhere where it talks about the gray market CZs like fucking alien artifacts made out of hyperalloy with slide rails cut with a laser.
>>64252266Every artist worth a damn does.
>>64249020>>64253674>first production model gets clapped out too quickly by regular use so in their buyer's remorse they cope about how the updated version uses worse steel czoy users can't ever be satisfied with their handgun of choice
>>64248917I read this manga. Pretty good
why don't they start drawing these fucking things in color? makes my eyes hurt
>>64254193Too much effort and takes too long.
>>642530442nd one is "Happiness Meal". Aside from one chapter about an old hunter it has nothing to do with weapons. The art is pretty crappy, but it will hit you right in the feels.
>>64248767>bore>sightmindblown
>>64252397motherfucker needs to stop this bullshit with his family's candy store and get back to drawing.
>>64248778>"wow this manga gets programming right">basically an inflated way of saying "i know how to use vim"
>>64248778Was always perplexed with how easily impressed users on a gun board were when mangakas showed the slightest hint of extremely basic firearms knowledge, but then I remembered that /k/ itself is mostly comprised of faggots that have never even touched a gun before.
>>64254543I mean, I’d be impressed if a squirrel showed how to do basic addition, this is on roughly the same level
>>64254543>Was always perplexed with how easily impressedAh. You misunderstand. We're not "impressed". We're just happy when we come across an artist who doesn't draw guns like a 10 year old would. This isn't unique to guns either. Gearheads appreciate it when racing manga gets autistic little details about cars right, and so on. It's not so much "wow, this artist is awesome". It's more "this artist isn't as retarded as most".
>>64254792
>>64255078that doesn't make anyone lose their shit because it's obvious that it's supposed to be some silly over-the-top thing. It's too obvious that it's bait.Things that would be triggering would be like drawing the notches on a revolver cylinder pointed the wrong way, drawing a S&W style cylinder release on a Colt (or vice-versa). Having someone reload an AK by sticking the mags straight in AR-style, realistic optics mounted backwards, etc. It can't be too obvious.
>>64255112I have literally no understanding of revolvers despite owning several guns so none of the revolver shit could get to me
>>64252397Nope. Mangakas back then had reference books filled with thousands of pictures of anything they might have wanted to draw, to use as references.
>>64248767So this isn't actually right, or rather it gets the FIRST part of zeroing a scope right but no more. Bore sighting is just one way to get you on paper faster, you could use a laser too (like for some semiautos where things get awkward), or you can just shoot more ammo and walk it in. But actually zeroing an optic always requires actually shooting.
>>64255789That's different from dragging an image or model into Clipstudio, scaling and rotating it to the way you want and drawing over it.
>>64255789>Mangakas back then had reference booksYes, and? The point isn't originality, the point is attention to detail. They gave enough of a shit to bother to draw the tiny little details instead of just drawing a generic gun. When someone uses another's digital asset all the work is already done. Copying someone's 15-polygon model is just as easy as copying someone's 50,000 poly model. But when people are drawing shit by hand they have to care enough to take the time to get all the little details.
>>64251734ian on the wall
I wish we'd killed more gooks in nam and dropped more nukes on the japs
>>64255078>bayonets on a minigunThis gets a laugh out of me every time I see it lol
>>64248917Horned lizard is kawaii
>>64254496Isn't he running the store now, like that's his day job?
