hiding vs not hiding
>>64251063>ambushes in close quarters with the aim of killing a few soldiers and then disappearing into the urban maze before the QRF can respond>sniper attacks>stuffing a bomb in the trash can and detonating it as a British soldier walks byPretty easy to get a positive k/d when you're not engaging in pitched battles (which larger guerilla movements like the Vietcong and the Taliban did on a regular basis)
>>64251063Fertilizer.
>>64251063The IRA could kill any british soldier they found. The brits could only kill IRA when directly attacked. Far more often, they simply arrested them.
>>64251063The paramilitaries mainly killed civilians. Nice b8 thread. Fuck all of them loyalist and republican, shit onn the shoes of Ireland to be wiped away. They murdered unarmed police in the Irish republic along with mostly their own neighbours.
By killing civilians, soldiers and police officers while the British arrested those they could.
Unfortunately, the RAF bombing the Irish in retaliation would have been frowned upon
>>64251454The Irish? The paramilitaries all orginated on supposedly British clay and half of them turned out to br british spooks. They were an illegal orginisation equally opposed to teh givernment of the Irish Republic Go bomb yourself Nigel you create the shit they rolled in
>>64251433Seethe
Exploiting the weak and pitiful trait of Britain's troops - their unwillingness to return fire into crowds and built up areas cost them the war and is obviously why Ireland were able to force the North into union with the south (fuck off OP)
>>64251063Are you tring to join that list or something Ivan?
>>64251621It figures>fuck off OPi hate the IRA too, piece of shit commies
>>64251614We see you. Careful now. You might get cut on your own edge.
>>64251557Northern Irish are Irish, are you retarded?
>>64251652You think I'm having that discusison with some bunch of spastics spamming do a terror crap threads? Like they give a shit about anyone in Ireland either way or ever did or did you just find out about John Hume and the Good Friday agreement in this post?.
>IT WAS A FALSE FLAGImagine not knowing that the Irish had been perfecting their guerilla tactics for centuries.
>>64251130/thread
>>64251676I had no idea the irish were so based
>>64251557Nope, a lot of attacks were launched across the border and Republican fighters would retreat out of the North to avoid British forces
>>64251063How did those 11 Irish soldiers and cops die?
>>64251847Whatever. The Republic jailed them banned them from TV and radio and even membership was an offense against the state. They shot unarmed Irish police amd even mudered soliders in th irish defense forces alog with obbing banks and kidnappings and extortion and the loyalists were drug deals and gangsters. Both of them were riddled with spooks arranging more pointless muder. They were about as populat as diarrhea in Ireland (where they traced their supposed mandate for the loosing side in a civil war) You know fuck all and nothing. The PIRAs position was the overthrowing of the Irish Republics democratically elected gotverment and replacing it with a socialist state, The gang of headbangers in the loyalists in the UVF and UDA spent most of their time mudering the wrong people and feuding with each other in tit for tat killings as did the PIRA and OIRA and INLA when they wree not kneecapping teenagers for pissing on their doorsteps. None of them wold have been around after 1975 if it was not for spooks in the KGB/CIA and M15 wanting to keep their budget funding. Some of the most barbaric muderers in the Provos turned out to be British agents. Then the cold war ended and it all vanished in a puff of smoke because no one cared about it tying up 20,000 troops that would otherwise have been in west Germany. Nothing is forgotten, nothing is forgiven. But there is peace.
It was dirty nasty business driven mostly by spooks on the loose playing cold war gameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJuqcUwRDQE
>>64251892But none of that has anything to do with the question OP asked.The answer is simple: Britain did not employ air power or artillery and especially didn't use it across international borders. If they had, the ratios in the OP would very rapidly have swung the other way.All other COIN conflicts in modern history have resulted in far greater losses of life on the insurgent side (and collateral losses to non-combatants), because government forces were not restrained from bombarding insurgent targets.
>>64251130fbpb
>>64251063Cowardly terrorists vs uniformed military, who want to minimize civilian deaths.
>>64251892Let me guess, you're a yank plastic paddy muh 1/64th retard?
>>64252056You've zero understanding or knowledge The Irish republic banned the Provos, censored them and jailed them and in turn the Provos viewed the government of the Irish Republic as an enemy to be eventually removed and replaced by a socialist state run by them. The one force that actually suceeded far more than anyother in eliminating paramiliary activity in Ireland was the Irish Garda (police) special branch nicknamed the 'Uzi wielders' and the Irish Defense forces who were far more sucessful in rising to the challenges posed by both republican and loyalist paramilitaries than the British Army, the RUC or any mudering spooks but you think it would be clever to shell them or bomb them. I can see why the USA crashed and burned in Afganistan so hard now incompetent COIN spergs blundering into something they are too lazy to bother understanding what, why,when,where or who.If you wanted to stop the troubles fast you would have been better off bombing the KGB, CIA and M15 HQs
>>64252639You're great at being wrong.
>>64252677>Garda (police) special branch nicknamed the 'Uzi wielders'https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/gerry-ocarroll-i-felt-safe-with-an-uzi-by-my-side-and-todays-gardai-are-entitled-to-the-same/31180683.html"The weapon was decommissioned in 2012 after garda management deemed it unsuitable for garda purposes. One of the reasons given was the danger of deploying it in a confined space.Many members of the force are clearly still mystified by this decision. The Uzi was the mainstay of the Special Branch detective unit for more than half-a-century after replacing the ageing and unreliable Thompson sub-machine gun.paramilitaryIn the 1970s when I was a uniformed garda, I remember being on mobile bank protection roles with members of the Special Branch, one of whom always carried an Uzi locked and loaded.During those turbulent years the IRA and other armed paramilitary organisations financed their activities north and south of the border by robbing banks almost on a daily basis.As an unarmed garda on those patrols with the ever-present risk of armed confrontation, I can tell you I found it extremely reassuring to see my detective colleagues toting their weapons in full view."
>>64252056>>64252677https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey9GJC53VQc
>>64251063Or do you really mean a k/d ratio against uuarmed Irish civilians?Pic aftermath of the Omagh bombinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing
Daeth to the kremlin and its supporters. Cancer where ever they walk
>>64252677Again, what does that have to do with kill:death ratios that is the subject of this topic?If you want to kill a lot of people, you bomb them. That's why the paramilitary numbers are high, and the British military numbers are low. One used bombs, rockets and mortars, the other did not.
>>64252789This was done out in 1998 by "The real IRA" trying to restart the troubles, a republican spinlter group aligned with Moscow that rejected the Good Friday Agreement which the PIRA and others agreed to after both sides of the border voted to for it north and south.Pic releated "A former Real IRA boss was hosted as a guest at the Russian embassy in Dublin this week.Convicted bomber John Connolly (48) posed for photos alongside senior diplomats and other committee members from his campaign group, The Truth and Neutrality Alliance, on Monday.Sharing photos of Fermanagh man Connolly on Facebook, the organisation said it was a “privilege” to be hosted at the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Ireland by the “very polite, engaging and hospitable Deputy Head of Mission, Cllr Igor Alekseev”."https://www.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/russian-embassy-welcomes-real-ira-bomber-as-guest-in-dublin/a1918547386.html"The group, which has almost 300 members, noted that a “range of topics were discussed” during the meeting, including requests that the embassy engage with the group to combat “Russophobia” in Ireland and beyond.""A former Real IRA boss was hosted as a guest at the Russian embassy in Dublin this week.Convicted bomber John Connolly (48) posed for photos alongside senior diplomats and other committee members from his campaign group, The Truth and Neutrality Alliance, on Monday.Sharing photos of Fermanagh man Connolly on Facebook, the organisation said it was a “privilege” to be hosted at the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Ireland by the “very polite, engaging and hospitable Deputy Head of Mission, Cllr Igor Alekseev”."At Omagh:"The victims included people of many backgrounds and ages: Protestants, Catholics, six teenagers, six children, a woman pregnant with twins, two Spanish tourists and others on a day trip from the Republic of Ireland. Both unionists and Irish nationalists were killed and injured. "
Nothing is forgotten. Nothing is forgiven.
>>64254329Just leaving this here.
>>64253774If you think there was open warfare after 1975 you are deluded. Artillery and airstrikes would have made no difference, the vast majority of killings were backstreet muders or bombings.
>>64251879how?
>>64254389>If you think there was open warfare after 1975 you are deludedFuck me kid... Are you retarded or something?I'm literally saying there wasn't open warfare, and that's why the British didn't kill as many paramilitaries as they could have given the capabilities that their armed forces have
>>64254329>It's once again the RussiansCan NATO hurry the fuck up and wipe these miserable people off of the face of the planet?
>>64254329>a woman pregnant with twinsTRIPLE KILL!
>>64251063Now include prisoners in the casualty total.
>>64255239>Can NATO hurry the fuck up and wipe these miserable people off of the face of the planet?They appear to be doing that quite well by simply being Russian skulking on the margins of civilisation fading into oblivion via their own inherent flaws founded on a disgregard for truth and human life. Another thread which shows them involved in pointless atrocity in a place that was no threat and neutral. Just because. Goodbye Russia, you won't be missed
>>64255212People in Ireland did not want open warfare and would not have particpated in it and the vast majority north and south abhored the paramilitaries.. There were only about 500 people actually active in PIRA ASUs in the 1980s at any one time . What did you plan to bomb civilians and make them want full scare war? Some COIN expert you are.
>>64251941>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJuqcUwRDQE>>64252789>>64254329All those bodies for nothing muchCold war games and murders touch.The Russian embassy for tea,Blood on the carpet for all to see.
>>64251130Yup, /thread
>>64255465How many prisoners are there in Long Kesh, currently? Idiot.
All people wanted was for the killing to stop for decades.
>>64251063https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEYHCkKISoI
