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First thing said by many left wingers after Charlie Kirk was shot was a screaming Reeee for Euro centric style gun control.

Here is a rifle any British person who has never been to Jail or a psychiatric institution can own for around £600($813).
£198 for certificate
£20 for safe
Rifle under £300 because someone's grandparent died and they don't have a section 1 lisence.

If it's possible in the UK, it's possible anywhere. It just doesn't happen becuase the political climate is much cooler in Europe, Anon, don't you understand my reasoning?
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Grabboids don't understand logic and reject reality. They think a million layers of licensing, psyche evals and strict control will stop people from killing people if they actually have motivation to do it. While not thinking about how Shinzo Abe got blasted with a completely homemade firearm and that Charlie Kirk got offed with a plain old hunting rifle by an outwardly well to do kid.
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>>64254911
Home made black powder, battery, plumbing, wood. Completely untraceable... Couldn't have pulled off a 200 yard shot but why does that matter. The chance to not get caught is something that might persuade someone to take the shot as if they have enough time, they can delude themselves into thinking that they can get away. Maybe we should ban rifles?

Oh no! An Indian rifle old enough to not require any lisence, even in the UK that could shoot accurately to 200 yards. NO, DONT ZIP TIE A CHINESE OPTIC ONTO IT WITH JB WELD AND LOAD IT WITH A MINI BALL!!
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>>64254894

> Thinking money is the prohibitive part of owning a weapon in the UK and Europe

You enjoyed American education, right?
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>>64255039
Quick tell us what a basic AR costs in your country
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>>64255085
So money does matter
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>>64254894
The left wingers cry out in pain as they strike you.
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>>64255085
lol
WUT
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>>64255060
>>64255085
There are several german companies making AR15, with mostly or entirely in house parts. Prices start at around 2k€, but these are quality ARs by american standards, not PSA trash.
For comparison:
Ruger american in .308 775€
SKS surplus 650€
Polish AK new production 1250€
Hungarian AR15 1200€
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>>64255039
Honest question, are public ranges even a thing in Europe or is it mostly private ranges for clubs or individual property? Yes I know every country does it differently, I'm aware Poland and Switzerland has ranges like what we have here where anyone can just show up and pay and entrance fee
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>>64255138
German shooting club ranges are often open to nonmembers if they pay a fee. Commercial ranges (not affiliated with a club) also exist.
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>>64255039
Right, but if you're a wealthy, upstanding citizen who's able to keep his shit together well enough to pass a psyche eval you'd be able to get a gun like OP's pic without much issue right?
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>>64255138
You answered your own question
Where I live in Finland I got kicked off a range for shooting muh evil semi autos
Now the fudds are crying for people to come back and use their range because they're running out of money and I will say "no"
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>>64255216
nigga, you live in finland, can't you just go out into the woods away from a road and shoot stuff there?
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>>64255138
In the UK it really depends, there is one club in Sheffield that is quite open to new members but you still have to BE a Member. Most others have strict, know a guy who knows a guy, this guy has to give you the okay, loads of bs to get on the range.
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>>64255152
Most of the time, sometimes they don't let you for pretty much no reason and don't explain why. That's the scary thing, like there is obviously a naughty boy social credit score aspect to it that is super orwelain that no one outside of shooting has any idea about. Most of the time though yes, get a safe, get a police visit, get a range and two references. GUN. Shotgun ranges are easier to get on (section 1 compared to section 2 (shotgun cert)
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>>64254894
Why would we need gun control? We can rebuild him, we have the technology. The world's first bionic golem, only costs 6 gorillion dollars!
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>>64255553
This wasn't funny enough to post once, let alone in multiple threads.
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>>64254894
Imagine if the dude had gotten popped with a Martini-Henry
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>>64255564
>t.antisemite
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Only the shotgun license is easy to get in England and Wales.
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>>64255644
For farmers
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>>64255237
No, a cute Sami girl might kidnap you and chew on your balls. Much too dangerous.
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They call for taking your guns away no matter what, because they want to kill you and rape your children.
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>>64255528
>oi bruv we dun wanna be loike America roight
>>(imports another infinity blacks and browns then refuses to prosecute them for crime)
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>>64255644
Don't they still give pistol permits in Norn Iron?
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>>64255237
No? You can if it's your own land but everyone who lives in that sort of place is a scared granny who will call the cops in no time flat
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>>64255566
what a sexy beast
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>>64254894
>£20 for safe
What the fuck kind of rifle safe are you getting for 20 Kopecks?
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>>64254894
>Discussions about politics, current events, or gun control belong on >>>/pol/
Lol
Lmao, even
Mods won't even play by their own rules even when they add a new sticky to reinforce their intent
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>>64254911
van of peace
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kirk literally got shot seconds after affirming that gun rights should be taken from every transgender-identifying person in the country
the last thing he did on this earth before he got shot was argue in favor of gungrabbing
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>>64254894

Firearms certificate is not easy to get, you need references and a reason beyond ‘I want one’.

Shotgun certificate is much, much easier though.
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>>64255866

It’s called a Section 5 certificate. It is nigh on impossible to get, the Home Secretary has to personally sign it off. They exist in England too.
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>Kirk got shot therefore gun control doesn't work
>Ignore the US having sky high rates of gun violence as compared to actual developed countries
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>>64256259
White america alone has the gun crime rate of "actual developed countries" (for now)
If limited to northern states sans new york and DC, it is actually quite low
Note, suicide is not "gun violence". Suicide is a human right that, in recent years, should be exercised more often for other peoples safety.

Americans do not have a gun problem.
And white americans should not have their rights stripped away because of blacks and hispanics.

All sources of white gun violence are easily remedied by taking out the first amendment instead, which was originally written assuming all of "the people" were christian white men of good standing who only interacted face to face, not discord furfags sharing femboy bestiality porn to psychologically castrate and then radicalize 13 year olds.

Boomers have no idea what the actual problem is though so they think "scary gun" bans and putting age verification on pornhub will solve something, when the real problems in the west are called

"4chan" "Reddit" "Discord" "Telegram" "e621" "e6ai" etc
And all of them follow the same pattern
This is how white gun violence is created

STEP ZERO: MARIJUANA. LEGALIZATION. 13% if not more of schizophrenia cases are triggered by cannabis. If not outright schizophrenia, schizotypal personality disorder is a common result.
STEP ONE: Psychological castration. Gay porn that looks straight, anime adults that look like preteens with hips, slide into loli or "feral", and then CP/bestiality.
STEP TWO: The psychologically castrated have no prospects. Any suitable for progress can not go back via nofap (it makes the fetish stronger). Radicalize. JEWS ARE THE PROBLEM. NO, FASCISTS ARE THE PROBLEM. WHICH WAY, PERMAVIRGIN?
STEP THREE: Encourage violence. "All niggers must fucking hang " "If only someone would shoot kikes instead of schoolchildren" "Assassinate fascists NOW"
STEP FOUR: Society destroyed by something LEGISLATORS DONT EVEN KNOW EXISTS
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>>64256286
Yes, it's the Internet age. People use the Internet. Mass shooters are people. Why are there virtually no mass shooters in the developed world, why are they all in America? Really makes you think
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>>64254894
I thought I saw this exact op before and it got deleted?
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>>64256308
>please ban guns instead of my furry tranny bestiality porn internet circlejerk that forms a crucial part of a radicalization pipeline
guns are fine
the people and the state must have comparable means of violence for a free state to exist
they are a non-negotiable right
and americans didn't have a "mass shooting problem" despite over 200 years of everyone having at least 6 rounds in their pocket...
until widespread access to an uncensored internet

the internet can and should be heavily censored and restricted.

i see no reason not to tie everything said on the internet to your real identity and totally ban all forms of obscenity on it. the first amendment was written for printing presses and people using their words face to face. not telegram chats and 4chan generals encouraging people to get into bestiality with female dogs and join domestic terrorist organizations, with a huge supply of bizarre pornography that keeps growing thanks to AI to keep people totally isolated and cut off from a natural and fulfilling life.

any political or religious movement that actually deserves a voice doesn't need the internet anyways.
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>>64255039
yuros are so fucking retarded they still can't into the moon and 175,000 yuros die each year because they can't invent AC
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>>64254894
>Discussions about politics, current events, or gun control belong on >>>/pol/

It's right there on the sticky you fucking moron.
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>>64256259
>>64256308
the US is the only developed country. yurop doesn't even have AC, it's third world
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>>64256259
>developed countries
>where you're nearly 10 times more likely to die from heat than from gun homicide in America
Don't speak to me when your continent suffers nearly 100x more deaths from heat than my country (despite America being WAY hotter) because you refuse to use AC



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