im a gun newfag. im 20 years old and my parents are warming up to the idea of owning a gun (i live at home and commute to college). is a ruger 10/22 a good first gun? i heard they are the miatas of the gun world.
>>64255973why do you want a gun?
>>64255989i want to learn how to shoot and i think it is fun. ranges/fields primarily. possibly self defense in the future but 22lr isnt the best for that
>>64255973get any decent AR15. Plenty of accesories if you want to get into builds, most common gun so plenty of cheap ammo, good for self defense, versatile.
>>64255994a 10/22 is a fine gun. if its a good "first" gun is entirely up to you.
>>64255998ill look into it. my parents are 100% maga but i think theyre scared of anything larger than 9mm.
>>64255973Yes, absolutely. A lot of us started learning as kids with 22s and still enjoy them decades later. Ammo is very, very cheap, and you get a lot out of it. The fundamentals will be the same as with a bigger gun and you can avoid the risk of certain bad habits like flinching since recoil is so minimal. And if you decide to get into more precision shooting you can practice a lot of the fundamentals at much shorter ranges (since 22lr is subject to drop/wind much more).Don't get suckered into spending on anything nice at this point, you can make do with no optic to get going but even for precision a basic chinkshit brand like arken, swampfox, element optics, etc with a small amount of mag is completely fine. Read up on the basics of safety and such, then have fun OP.
>>64255973get a gun you like the feel of in your hands, and that you'd be interested in learning more about. your Local Gun Store(LGS) or a Cabela's is fine for this, as they're the most common places i find will have guns you can actually feel and touch. a ruger 10/22 is fine, but it's better you get something you're vaguely excited about, even if it's second-hand, it'll encourage you to learn more, whether that's collecting or shooting. guns, even really old, work great, i have some pieces dating back to 1903 i still shoot regularly, so don't worry if the thing you find you want to go for first is really old.
>>64256003Do not listen to /arg/fags like this retard >>64255998>plenty of cheap ammoLike this shit. 5.56 starts around 34 cents per round for cheapshit fmj ball. That's quite decent for center fire for sure. But meanwhile 22lr starts around FIVE (5) cpr. About seven times cheaper. They are in a completely different universe. The only thing that can rival 22lr for cost are air rifles.There's definitely nothing wrong with getting an AR as well down the road if you want, or a higher power bolt if you go that direction, or shotguns are always great fun and skeet places can be found all over even where finding space for other gun fun is harder. But none of those means getting rid of 22lr. And for self-defense yeah you'll want to learn a handgun, but again, that's also a different thing.
>>64256017ive held a 30.06 at cabelas with a buddy half a year ago. im a shorter framed male and i liked it. but preferably something smaller, which i assume a ruger 10/22 is.>>64256018ive got a buddy into guns and he said 5.56 completely disappeared around covid. i just want a cheap, fun, reliable gun that i can mod with chinkshit. i dont want an ar15 just yet.
>>64255973It's boring (but you should get boring practical guns first before buying fun meme guns) but you will get the most mileage and value out of a Glock 19 gen 3 or any clone of it, they are incredible affordable and plentiful, massive aftermarket and can be carried comfortably or just used to put holes in paper, it is the toyota hilux of the gun world
>>64255973that and the Ruger mk4 are excellent beginner guns. both chambered in 22lr and both have a huge aftermarket available.
>>64255973You could get a 10/22 with a sling and holosun red dot and a tisas raider with a light and holster and have 99 percent of your practical bases covered. Dont get a shitty ar for your first gun. If you get more into shooting buy a nice ar upper receiver and slap it on a lower or a .308 bolt action.
>>6425602810/22 is a fine choice, another benefit besides wide aftermarket and low price is it's a very well-understood mechanism because of all the people who have one and had problems with it and had to dive in and fix things. No matter what problem you have, someone has had it before and posted about it online. They are made pretty cheaply at this point and you get major benefits from smoothing a few key areas. All 22s tend to jam more than other calibers, and the 10/22 is no different. I swapped to a kidd recoil spring/rod & handle, smoothed the inner receiver where the bolt slides, and filed a larger radius into the back corner of the bolt where it pushes down the hammer after every shot.
>>64255994>self defense in the future but 22lr isnt the best for thatUnless you live in an active war zone, or a ghetto, caliber doesn't make much difference.
>>64255973Yes.Anytime you're learning something, grinding reps matter. I would sooner trust someone with 2K rounds through their ruger 10/22 than someone with who spent $7000 on some boutique safe queen they never shoot because it's some unicorn .435 Lahuooa+PPP, that costs $9 a shot. 10/22 is cheap(er) and you will be able to afford shooting without agonizing over the cost.I'd always put forth people who are thinking about getting into guns should look at the cost of ammo vs that of the gun. If you're struggling to get enough money to buy an AR or whatever, you probably shouldn't even bother because the cost of feeding the fucking thing is obviously outside of your financial abilities. 10/22 winds on this point.I think the biggest downside of .22 is they're just not very exciting once you do get a decent grip on shooting. But I'm only shoot rifles at ranges, so take that as you will. If you're going into the woods to shoot or whatever that could change things for you. A lot of it depends on why you want to shoot.
>>64255973Hi fellow zoomie. I’m 22 and my first gun was a Bersa Thunder but I absolutely recommend your first is a 22LR for the sake of ammo costs. 10/22 is a great gun, I’m hoping to own one someday myself
https://www.crosman.com/product/crosman-760-pumpmaster-177-pellet-bb-pneumatic-pump-air-rifle-brown/you can go from 10 to 2 pumps (quiet and easy) and even 2 is plenty for learning to hit targets.I'll go out with the crew and a few guns and unlimited ammo for the Mosins but these guns just gets shot the most. Starts shooting before the main event and after the real shooting is done, and maybe at a few stops on the road back.thx me later.
>>64255973I recommend that you get a bolt action or lever action .22. it will be more fun to shoot than the 10/22 and you will shoot it slower so it will sort of save you even more money on ammo in a sense. my first gun was a 10/22 and I wish that I had got a bolt/lever action .22 instead. you should also consider how often you will be able to shoot. if you can't go shooting often, it may be better to wait until you're 21 and buy a 9mm handgun. it will be cheaper to shoot than a 5.56 but still a lot of fun (maybe even more fun as handguns are more challenging to shoot accurately than a rifle), it's a much better self defense cartridge than .22, and you will be able to carry it.
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>>64255994>22lr isnt the best for thatNot with that attitude.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9527frMdJm0
>>64255973It's a good innawoods gun. You can kill and eat small game with it. Bring a rod, too and fish. Gut everything with a trapper knife until you learn how to pull pelts off rabbits and field strip breastmeat from quail, grouse, etc.Good first gun would be a mossberg maverick 12ga. You can get rifled slugs or buckshot for deer, bird shot for small game. Start fires with unspent shells. A bunch of versatility, plus good self defense
>>64256028A .22 isn't a bad choice for dipping your toes in. They're a lot of fun but just understand that the recoil and blast is basically non existent and it's only a first step.
>>64255973Woox makes those Exactus stocks for tons of rifles besides a 10/22. Pic related, Bergara B14R>>64256222you sound poor. and OP's pic is $700 meme stock.> I think the biggest downside of .22 is they're just not very excitingyou also sound retarded, PRS rimfire and NRLX matches takes .22LR out far
>>64255973Really can’t go wrong with a 10/22. Especially if you want to get into small game eventually. If you buy one now you probably will keep it for the rest of your life.
>>642560035.56 is smaller than 9mm tell them Vance has one.
>>64255973.22lr is cheap as shit (good for practicing) and the 10/22 is fine. I might suggest you get a bolt or lever action in .22 instead because I like the mechanical feedback of them but if you want to punch holes it's all k.
>>64255998>I'm new to guns, what get>"Hey here's my suggestion, start building one from parts">stupidfaggot.bmp
>>64255973honestly, its hard to go wrong with any decent AR15, but if you know nothing about guns then a 10/22 isn't too bad. cheap ammo and amazing aftermarket lets you get fundamentals down, and once you feel comfortable with the mechanical aspects then you can get into customization with optics and beyond. so a solid 7.5/10 in my book. but any gun is fine as long as it goes bang, stays intact, and isn't a p320.
>>64258268>Plenty of accessories if you want to get into builds>if you want to My nigger, I think you're the stupid faggot here.
10/22s are great little rifles if you're looking for a semi auto plinker, and if you want to customize it, they have a TON of aftermarket.. Main reason I bought my first glock was BECAUSE of the mass aftermarket, but i fucking hated that gun, customizing it made me hate it less.. But I still ended up trading it off for something more fun.
>>64255973Only if you get them for cheap at a pawn shop. There are much better 22s
>>64255973>>64255994I'd recommend a 10/22 as a first rifle for sure. Note the new ones have a paddle style magazine release I find to be annoying as shit with the regular 10rd mags. I'd use BX-15 magazines; that's really what the paddle is designed for. Not sure what the current cheapest model is; check on Ruger's site and type in the model numbers you like on gun.deals; most should be pretty nice and cheap.>Miatas of the gun worldMaybe Civic? I'm thinking more like a car/gun every car/gun enthusiast has owned at some point. Something that can be made to do a bunch of different things/can be set up several ways for different use cases. And, you know, common and cheap.>>64256018According to recent searches, more like 37.8cpr plus shipping for 5.56 if you:>don't want a brand you've never heard of>don't want to go with a seller with a shipping rating under 5>don't want to have a purchase limit of x boxes>do want brass casevs 3.8cpr for Remington 22LR according to Ammoseek. That is almost exactly a tenth the price.
>>64255973You can't go wrong with a 10/22.
>>64255973>Ruger 10/22>tech sights>project appleseedBack in the day, this was the stock advice given here to someone wanting to learn shooting. Getting a .22 target gun is the best way to learn fundamentals cheaply. A .22 plinker is also a gun that you will never regret buying. Anyone who says they like shooting, but doesn't own a .22 rifle or pistol is just a poser.As for your parents, the fact that the 10/22 is chambered in the same caliber as Olympic marksmanship events should help your case. It is also an affordable rifle to buy and shoot.>>64256028To add on to what >>64256018 said, for the price you'd pay for 5.56, you'd be able to buy topshelf, match grade .22LR sorted by specific lots. For the price of .308, you can buy Olympic grade match ammo that the seller has batch tested for accuracy. A 30 round mag of 5.56 is a $10 bill. 30rds of decent .22 is like $2.
>>64256222>some boutique safe queen they never shoot because it's some unicorn .435 Lahuooa+PPP, that costs $9 a shot.I'm loaded with my Hirtenberger Buscadero Ticonnnndas and I don't want to shoot my Ticonnnnndas! But yeah that definitely held me back from shooting and still does when money gets tight. 22LR may not help you with getting used to recoil or handling of other firearms but it certainly helps you not only keep your skill from deteriorating but improve the basics that your shooting skills depend on. Hold, steadiness, trigger pull, practicing accounting for drop/wind, etc. Also checked.(since I forgot the source as well: "Why I don't like "Hyper" Ammo")>>64257063Good for shooting at home. That's how I got started and my only complaint is single-feeding pellets and having to pump a lot. But even cheaper than 22LR; I'll never run out of pellets. Also great for pest control. BBs have a tendency to bounce back off anything harder than cardboard lol.>>64257164I do sometimes notice I shoot too fast with my 10/22; I did start with a pellet rifle which forced me to shoot slow, though, so I tend to be able to notice it and slow down. I tend to grab an AUX cable and plug it into my earmuffs (Impact Sports) and throw on a podcast. Stops me from trying to dump 15rds in 20 seconds on a target wasting all my hunting ammo that was supposed to last until Winter over 5 range trips.
>>64259886>Anyone who says they like shooting, but doesn't own a .22 rifle or pistol is just a poser..22 is the hobbyist caliber. .22 rimfire is the only way shooting isn't a rich man's hobby. A .22 is a great first rifle, and as I have aged and acquired gear as a gun owner, .22 is how I spend most of my time at the range. You will never regret spending money on a high quality .22 firearm.
>>64255973The trap that some people fall into with .22 is that .22 rimfire ammo quality is important. That's not to say you need to be buying expensive .22 ammo, but you absolutely avoid the cheapest bulk shit. Plenty of shooters have soured on .22 because they have spent their time at the range clearing jams and failures to fire with Remington Golden Bullet or Thunderbolt or whatever other cheap shit is available at the gun store. .22 really shines with mid shelf ammo or better. CCI is always a safe bet, but my favorite cheap-but-reliable ammo is Aguila standard or high velocity. It's always best to test your gun with small quantities of a given ammo before buying by the 2000 brick quantity, don't end up like the sad sack with a bucket o'bullets that are jamomatics
10/22s are poorly designed, unreliable pieces of shit.
>>64255973.22lr is cool and all but there is a reason why the Olympics use air rifles. You can't shoot a .22lr in your house or backyard, because that's obvious. Modern air rifles are doing some Lewis and Clark shit that most people don't know.
>>64255973If I was starting over the advice I would give to myself would be start with a CZ-457 22lr with a leupold rimfire scope and a case of 22 ammo then start researching 22lr AR's and build your own utilizing asmany real AR parts as posible one small part every paycheck after a year. you will wind up with something like this. Your favorite upper and lower, CMMG 22lr barrel and 22lr BCG and all you will need is a barrel and BCG to swap to a centerfire caliber & by that point you will understand and be proficient with the platform.
>>64255973>i heard they are the miatas of the gun world.They do have tons of aftermarket support should you want to customize it. That said, unless you're planning a weird project, you probably won't do much upgrading besides adding a better set of sights or a scope, which you can do with any .22 rifle. I tend to think the Ruger 10/22 is a bit pricey for what you get. The rotary mag is a solution in search of a problem and makes reloading a bit clunkier than the tried-and-true 10 round stick mag you'll find on any other .22 rifle. For $300 for the cheapest 10/22s I'm not sure you're getting much more value for the extra $100+ you're spending. Avoid the 10/22 options that don't include sling attachment points on on the stock (it's nuts Ruger is charging so much for these rifles and not including sling attachments standard).The Marlin 795 was a great rifle, but Marlin was acquired by Ruger and it's not in production anymore. The Savage 64F is a great no-frills rifle that works great and is half the price of the Ruger. Best upgrade for any .22 rifle is a heavy, solid stock like those available from Boyds. This will make these rifles have the rigidity and heft of a centerfire rifle rather than feeling flimsy, but that's a pricey upgrade that will cost as much as the gun itself. Nice but not necessary.
>>64257063I always recommend the daisy 880 vs the crossman 760. The reason being that the daisy has an actual pump lever that is far less annoying to actuate than the crossman, which is the forend itself. I owned both as a kid and always preferred the daisy all else being equal. Nitpicking aside airguns are not nearly recommended enough as a first gun, at least here in America. Airguns have many advantages over even a cheap .22 the main one being that you can shoot in your back yard. Unless you have a lot of land out in the sticks you can't do that with a .22. A rifle that you can step out back any time you want will get used an order of magnitude more that one you have to go somewhere else to shoot.
>>64255973yeah 10/22's are great, everyone should have one. 500 rounds of ammo is like 30 bucks and you can plink all weekend with that.
>>64261100i own that exact rifle, umarex 30 cal but w/suppressor. Thing is awesome.With suppressor it sounds like a suppressed 22 in my backyard.
>>64255973You should go for a 10/22 but try looking around for deals so that you can save your moneyAlso walmart still sells .22LR for a decent price so for an extra $100 or so you can easily get over 1,000 rounds to play with
>>64260106Federal Automatic has been my go to
I would recommend an American before the 1022.Being Aussie I need to have a reason for cat c so I'm biased to repeaters to learn marksmanship first then learn to shoot quickly with a semi.
>>64255973a fine starting choice and very versatile.
