Why did the Chinese replace their 125mm gun for a 105mm one for their next gen MBT?
>>64262277There's no info about that tank other than the evident reuse of the basic chassis and caliber of the previous Type 15.
>>64262277Because they claim their 105mm matches the 120mm performance of NATO and 125mm of Soviet design. Claimed ~1,700ms muzzle velocity. The main reason, however, is weight. The 105mm weighs less and you can fit two Type 100 (formerly known as ZTZ-201) on a Y-20 instead of the one ZTZ-99A. So lighter, easier to move in a potential island based war and better performance than their current MBT.
>>64262303The only "claim" is a description of the ammo as of comparable speed to a smoothbore, 1.7 km/s instead of the usual 1.4-1.5 km/s, not performance. That isn't odd considering they keep developing ammo for that caliber and companies like MECAR had an 1.62 km/s munition 20 years ago, it's just gradual improvement.
>>64262277its unknown what role it will fill in the PLAit is much smaller than their existing MBTs, supposedly in the 40-ton range while being quite small in foot printso the obvious use is as a vehicle that can more quickly be shuttled around
>>64262309Yep. Who knows.
Why does /k/ glaze the chink Booker while shitting on the American Booker?
>>64262343dont conflate everyone else for warriortard
>>64262325>it is much smaller than their existing MBTsExcept that It isn't
>>64262343It isn't since the Chink Booker is the ZTQ-15 which weights 33 tons, and was already revealed and in service since 2015. This new ZTZ-100 tank has way more add-on armor, has APS and unmanned turret with a crew capsule like the T-14 Armata.
>>64262357>It isn't since the Chink Booker is the ZTQ-15 which weights 33 tons, and was already revealed and in service since 2015.Obviously they're not comparable since the M10 is significantly heavier.>This new ZTZ-100 tank has way more add-on armor, has APSProof that this is better protected than the 42 ton Booker? It was never publicly shown and the turret was specifically designed to be compatible with the Abrams' Trophy APS.>and unmanned turret with a crew capsule like the T-14 Armata.Implessive. Too bad the T-14 is so bad the Russians won't even use it.
>>64262357Like the M1 TTB
>>64262368T-14 was just too expensive for the Russians to build in large numbers, since their electronics industry was shit, like their T-90Ms still used sights and thermals from the french, THALES prior to the Ukraine war. That's not the problem for the chinks who literally are the electronics manufacturer of the world.
>>64262376>T-14 was just too expensive for the Russians to build in large numbers,There's also the part where it failed their trials so there's half a dozen of them left forgotten while they're out of every kind of tank that aren't "new production" "T-90Ms" with no optics and painted bricks instead of ERA.>>64262376>chinks who literally are the electronics manufacturer of the world.That would be Taiwan and then South Korea and then the US, with mainland China in a distant fourth.
They've encountered the age old problem with bustle autoloaders and unmanned turrets, where you can carry fuck all ammunition if it's 120mm+
>>64262303>Claimed ~1,700ms muzzle velocity.M829A3 (and very probably M829A4) is 1550m/s.
>>64262343>why does /k/they don't, it's mostly a few schizophrenics that spam threads on /k/ and have this weird idea that willingly spending half their day shilling for china is a noble cause.
>>64262394In really advanced nodes, yes. But legacy/mature nodes used military hardware, they're a close second to Taiwan>https://www.reuters.com/technology/taiwans-legacy-chip-industry-contemplates-future-china-eats-into-share-2025-02-10/
>>64262495You can increase muzzle velocity by ising overpressured ammo at the expense of shorting barrel lifeI guess they decided having barrel replacement every 200 round is a worthwhile tradeoff
>>64262495And the A2 was 1680 m/s, but they have roughly the same muzzle energy. The things that matters is muzzle energy, efficiency and efficacy against ERA.
>>64262679That article is misleading, it's talking about mature nodes as "28nm or larger," while a lot of SMIC's production capacity is tied up in ancient 110mm+ legacy nodes, meanwhile it's ignoring large foundries like UMC and TI because they only deal in legacy and not mature nodes. In a fair comparison of mature nodes vs mature nodes, or legacy nodes vs legacy nodes, or total production capacity vs total production capacity, China is not currently a top player. There's currently concerns that they might become one in a decade or two, but that's not the same thing no matter how much shitty journalists and political shit disturbers want it to be.
>>64262908>110mm110nm, obviously.
It's interesting how the entire PLA is slowly went from "Soviet oriented" to "NATO oriented".You can see it on pretty much everything, from their ground soldiers to big boy stuff like Tanks, Ships, Fighters, Missiles...
>>64263862They began to use western standards, NATO included, since the 80s. Both for testing and certification as data protocols, the warsaw compatible market was saturated after the 1980s.
>>64262343Both of them are crap compared to the Japanese Type-10.
>>64264378What makes it good though?Is there any data or any combat proof or is just because vibes and "thing: japan"?
>>642644411.8 second autoloader on a 120mm platform with armor packages that can withstand modern APFSDS ammo from the front.
>>64262495DU rounds dont need that much speed.
>>64264453>1.8 second autoloader on a 120mm platform With how many rounds ready before you have to get out and reload?>with armor packages that can withstand modern APFSDS ammo from the front.Is this actually desirable if it's made of tissue paper everywhere else?
Ching chong chong ching, ching chong ching ching chong!
Implessive
>>64262503>w-we are being INVADED, /k/ope-sisters!
>>64262277it's a sign they're going away from 8 wheels is better thinking. very impressed.
>>64262277>rip off armata>its trashoof
>>64267687>laughing at the US?! >must be some rejecthilarious how far behind you are
>>64267523*implessed
>>64267702what the fuck does this even mean chinkshill
>>64267720patience, one cope at a time
>>64264537Bix Nood (x24)
>>64267815>she doubles downboomer tier, outdated firmwaregoodnight
this chinkshill is so bad at what they're doing that anons are thinking it's a zigger
>>64267846Just wait a bit and he'll start posting his essays about how he's not ackshually a hapa because the han are basically hapas anyway
>>64264480>With how many rounds ready before you have to get out and reload?14 in the autoloader, another 8 stored in the crew compartment, and 14 more in a hull bin that's not accessible from inside the tank.
