What is the state of the Russian SOF? As of Dec. 2023 the VDV were basically gone and now they're creating a draft of 2 million soldiers, as of Jan. 2024. By Sept. 2025, they lost over 200,000 of them (KIA/WIA/MIA), and now they can't perform anything but hopeless uncoordinated probing attacks. As of this month, due to massive fuel and supply shortages thanks to Ukrainian drone strikes on fuel depots and tankers, they can't move tanks and heavy equipments on the battlefield no more. They're basically Hamas status by now. Now they're using motorcycles toride to their deaths. In 2022, I'd hear stories of entire battalions being dropped in just weeks, sometimes in just single engagememts. They can develop new tanks, but without fuel, they're just glorified scrap metal. They performed meat wave attacks until there's no meat to throw. And Ukraine has gotten so used to their "waves" that they can outnumber them massively, with only a few tanks (like the M1 Abrams from Australia) with maybe some drones and knock out entire battalions at a time. I don't even know if they have elite units left hardly. Wagner Group they killed off themselves. And what's left of them is getting torn to shreds by ISIS in Africa. Now they're basically resorting to using police riots weapons, like tear gas and new asphyxiating gas weapons that has yet to produce any results. They got kicked out of Pokrovsk, Crimea has turned into a death trap, and Ukraine doesn't have hardly any size to compare to. Their Gerads/Shaheds are becoming useless. You might as well say they already lost. They could drop the nukes, but Ukraine's got flamingos now. It's about time Putin swallows his pride.North Korea even got pissed off at Russia over their losses in the first Kursk offensive. China they're isolated from as they're just mediators to the conflict like the US.
>>64276581And their shadow fleet in the Baltic Sea got destroyed by Ukraine. They can't invade NATO if they can't invade Ukraine. But Trump refused to do anything for Poland after Russian Gerads were found violating their airspace, because he's on Putin's dick, so Ukraine continues to provide protection for NATO.
>>64276581>What is the state of the Russian SOF?Bad, but it's always been bad. The VDV was a gutted husk long before they were dropped into the Dnieper and left to die at doomed airfields. Their national guard and police SF units demonstrated how far they'd fallen when, at the start of the war, they were relegated to blackbaging academics and minor local figures, then torturing, interrogating, and killing them. They weren't even entrusted with civilian suppression because their incompetence was so thoroughly documented. Even the FSB's units have degraded to such a point that they're functionally useless. Really, the only competent units remaining are in the GRU, but they're off terrorising civilians in Africa with the remnants of the newly nationalised Wagner to keep Russia's supply of rare earth elements flowing.
>>64276630Russian SOF(t) units have been doin shit in ukraine recently with ambushes, DRG shit and trench raiding, basically the ONLY 'w' footage zigger shills have been posting lately and it tends to get 2-3 weeks out of a single clip or something. It's pretty funny cause you'll see them gloat about some raid unit killing two-three ukranians, capturing 2-3 more and saying it's a 'huge win look how bad ukraine is' while like, 20-30 videos of drones mogging russian assault units and dugouts get posted amid another refinery hit
>>64276581>due to massive fuel and supply shortages thanks to Ukrainian drone strikes on fuel depots and tankers, they can't move tanks and heavy equipments on the battlefield no more.That doesn't feel right. hitting storage near the front makes the logistics harder, but overall they'll be prioritising military over civilian needs. So they'll have limited supplies in specific areas near the front but no widespread shortage
>>64276657It's highly possible they are genuinely so incompetent that what should only be a minor logistical hiccup results in complete paralysis at the front, but I'm more inclined to believe that they just don't have the metal to move their meat around anymore.Hopefully we'll get a clearer picture from captured zegroid testimony or doomer z-bloggers.
People have been predicting an imminent russian collapse since 2022, and then you check the maps and see that the vatniks are slowly but surely accomplishing their goal, which is to kick ukraine out of the donbasThe russians dont care about casualties, and they have a seemingly endless supply of shitty armored vehicles and ammunition they can throw at any problem..they wont be able to attack any NATO country any time soon, but Ukraine is pretty fucked if this grind continuesUkraine needs tomahawks and air support from NATO, nothing else will bring this war to a swift end...but NATO will never do such a thing because we're pussies, and Pootin knows this
>>64276673Yummy pasta
>>64276673They are only making incremental gains in uncontested, deprioritized directions. Any time they even think of making gains in Pokrovsk, it becomes a death trap.
Also, I doubt thid war will ever go nuclear, because Putin isn't who calls the shots but his Jewish handlers (like Abramovich). And the same Jews that control Putin ard the same Jews that control Trump - chabad lubavitch. They want to create an Israel 2.0 in Ukraine because they cannot sustain living in Palestinian territory, so they want Khazaria back. Why would they irradiate their own fallback resort? It's all theatre. At this point, the only thing Russia can perform is psychological warfare (ie bombing civilians). Otherwise, they can't do shit else. Why do you think they've done everything they shouldn't do in a war, and everything that is counterproductive so far?
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>>64276673It's not even as much that NATO are pussies as much as they just don't have the industrial capacity nor the will to wage war the way the Russians/Ukrainians have. The U.S and Europe have pretty much burned through their 1980s stockpiles of munitions and equipment while they're clearly too paralyzed by the for-profit, just-in-time production model of post-Cold War GWOT MICs to shift shit into gear the way Russians have for production.Not to mention you have Israel now cannibalizing more advanced equipment/munitions from the U.S, particularly Patriots.>>64276685>They are only making incremental gains in uncontested, deprioritized directionsFor sure, i.e Dnipropetrovsk and Northern Donetsk. But the sad fact of the matter is that Ukraine has been on the back foot since retaking Kherson and every attack of theirs have been strategic disasters since, particularly the attempts in Kursk and Krynky that wasted highly valuable troops that could've been used to either push or hold the East. Russia has an insane attritional advantage against the Ukies, esspecially with North Korea giving their manufacturing/resupply a massive boost and Ukraine getting less and less aid from the West. The question is simply how long that attrition will be, given you know Russia will continue doing little probing footholds all along the front like in Kharkiv or Sumy until the whole thing just falls apart. This war could trudge on for the rest of the decade like it has along the lines of Iran-Iraq, Russia could grind out a bloody victory, Ukraine could collapse tomorrow, or it goes on as is and Russia has to pump the brakes and take the Trump offer due to serious internal economic issues from the deficit spending. Nobody really knows what will happen in this war or how long it will take. It's been the "nothing ever happens" war apart from weird blips like the Wagner rebellion or Kursk since right-bank Kherson was retaken.
>>64276766Are you trying to say Russia now is in the situation of Nazi Germany or the USSR? Because the USSR/Russia managed to grind out a bloody victory in the very area the present-day war is being fought in.
>>64276788this has been talked about a million times zizteronly after their american simps came to plug in all of that faggy logistics thing. For comparison without lend lease and losing ukraine alone cut down vatnik union agricultural production by about 1/3. Which meant general famine across all fronts and rear by late 1942 without imported food. this is on top of all the trucks, fuel, ammo, chemicals etc
>>64276798>only after their american simps came to plug in all of that faggy logistics thing.Russia now has massive gibs coming in from NK and China while Ukraine's benefactors either no longer have much to gib or are pulling away from the conflict; not to mention that Russia consistently produces more equipment and materiel for this conflict than NATO and Ukraine do.Also, this conflict is completely different than WWII despite being fought on similar ground. It's like if WWII were ongoing and people were comparing the USSR to the Russian Empire in WWI, it's an apples to oranges comparison.
>>64276804>not to mention that Russia consistently produces more equipment and materiel for this conflict than NATO and Ukraine do.haha, what??? have you been living under a rock?they have resorted to using literal donkeys and kids scooters to move stuff around and world war two era equipment because they can't afford to manufacture anything anymore
>>64276804>coming in from NKHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH>dude we're out of money!>it's cool dude, a hobo down the street gave me a quartercan't make this shit up, also>rest of the post>"trust me comrade, it do be like that"
There's a video of foreign volunteers killing Spetsnaz in a ruined house. The Spetsnaz set up a bunch of traps in the house but the foreign fighters were veterans that didn't fall for it.
>>64276811>>it's cool dude, a hobo down the street gave me a quarterI'm not talking about money fucktard, I'm talking about equipment. NK has given Russia a huge, lifesaving boost in the manufacturing of artillery shells and ballistic missiles; because it turns out having a satellite that's basically a giant Stalinist weapons factory full of a bunch of starving gooks paid in bread is a great thing to have in your back pocket for a conventional war.Not to mention the troop deployments NK gave to Russia during the Kursk campaign that freed up substantial Russian reserves.>>64276810>they have resorted to using literal donkeys and kids scooters to move stuff around and world war two era equipment because they can't afford to manufacture anything anymoreIf it were really as bad for Russia as you guys say it is this war would've been over years ago, or at the very least Ukraine would be the one making consistent, slow gains, not Russia.
>>64276823>zigger>doesn't understand a metaphorpottery, also>NK>giant stalinist weapons factoryLEMAO
>North Korea even got pissed off at Russia over their losses in the first Kursk offensive.Kim doesn't give a shit. He's enjoying the new toys and resources Russia is giving him in return for cattle that no longer needs to be fed. No one in North Korea would go hungry if he invested his money on food instead of new missiles.
>>64276783Really, the war's outcome was already decided within the first year of the invasion.>Russia launches a "special military operation" under absolutely delusional motives>loses Kyiv>the Kyivan leadership is still in office, as of today>then decides to attpt buildong a land bridge linking Donbas to Odesa to sweep through and take Moldova to then push northward to grab the rest of the country>the problem? Azov attrited the fuck out of them with what little they had despite getting bombed the fuck out 24/7 in Mariupol for 3 months straight until they had to make concessions with them and only surrendered when the commander-in-chief told them to (and who are still alive, killing Russian soldiers to this day - they only won tactically)>as of result of Azov pinning down 27 tactical battalion formations + an air force + a navy, and draining them of all their precision weapons (and living to tell about it), Russia had to redeploy troops after heavy losses in urban combat, and lost the Battle of Mykolaiv, which secured them Black Sea access to this very day (and now Ukrainian patrol boats actively control, as of 2025)>then Moskva happens when a Russian naval destroyer gets sunk by two subsonic Neptune anti-ship missiles with the help of a Bayraktar reconaissance drone, killing 300 soldiers onboard (who Russia were exposed later of using actors who the families were calling out, asking what happened to them on RT)>then Ukraine takes back Snake Island in the second battle>then Ukraine sneakily takes back Kherson, regaining them control over the Crimean basin>so now Russia's "land bridge" plans just got cucked>meanwhile as this was going on, Ukraine secures Kharkiv after torching 19 Spetsnaz fighters inside a school who were burned alive, shot dead more, only 3 or 4 managed to escape w/ another 3 or 4 captured, which happened just in time before Russia was able to mobilize in the city
>>64276824>ur a zigger if you point out that Ukraine and NATO are on the back foot and give logical reasons why that's the case!Sometimes I come to this board hoping that the retards are gone and people are here to talk about this conflict logically without all the NAFOid vs. Vatnik ad hominem retardation. It's undeniable that materiel from NK has been extremely important for Russia since 2023 and to deny otherwise is unironically playing into zigger talking points lol.
>>64276828>No one in North Korea would go hungry if he invested his money on food instead of new missiles.It's funny you mention that, because Russia apparently gave a ton of agricultural infrastructure as payment
>>64276837>Russia apparently gave a ton of agricultural infrastructure as paymentYeah pretty much all Russia has had to give Kim is food, gas, and blueprints for a virtually endless supply of missiles, artillery shells, and even troops. It was probably one of Russia's smartest moves diplomatically since the war started because not only did they get NK back as a satellite state, they also got a wild card they could play against China in case the CCP got any funny ideas about Mongolia or Siberia.
>>64276835imagine coming here and saying "a literal shithole of a country where people eat grass to survive was invaluable in providing military equipment to a nation that's supposed to be one of the biggest military-industrial complexes on the planet"imagine saying this with a straight face and thinking it's an argument that paints russia in a positive light
>>64276783>The U.S and Europe have pretty much burned through their 1980s stockpiles of munitions and equipment while they're clearly too paralyzed by the for-profit, just-in-time production model of post-Cold War GWOT MICs to shift shit into gear the way Russians have for production.You have no idea what Europe's current output is, and as for the balance of power: Ukraine has now achieved overmatch when it comes to battlefield drones, parity in terms of artillery ammunition, and their airforce doubled in size. Unlike the russians, they're perfectly capable of deploying various AFVs (M1s, Leopards, Marders, CV90s) for offensive ops, and their army is generally more mechanized than in 2022 thanks to thousands of MRAPs that have been delivered by NATO countries.Unlike the russians, they're also capable of producing fairly advanced artillery locally because the French are supplying them with 155mm barrells.
>>64276581Putin cost the oligarchs billions, if he can't offer them war soils he's dead and he knows it. Putin won't seek peace unless it insures he gains enough gas fields to keep the bosses happy.As for Ukraines options they just have to keep hitting Russian refineries, power plants, factories ect. minimizing Russian warfighting capability until Putin is dead.
>>64276673No one with 2 brain cells to rub together has been saying Russia is going to collapse fast, look at the 20 year decline of the USSR for a more realistic timeline.
>What is the state of the Russian SOF?now that is a good question
>>64277010i heard how much this board has gone to shit but it's truly baffling how you fags manage to outperform even the most rabid ukrofluffer in your delusions. europe hasn't taken trump's cock out of its mouth for a year because they genuinely terrified at the possibility of being alone in a contintent with russia.
>>64277219Good job on your one W clip of the month rajesh. Now back to that NEW burning refinery?
russia is not as powerful as you might think but not as weak as you might want. even a weak drunkard is still a hard to stop drunkard that damages and kills anyone around him if anyone triggers (by existing usually) him into attempting to rape or murder his neighbors.
>>64276630>relegated to blackbaging academics and minor local figures, then torturing, interrogating, and killing them.That has been the bread, butter, and the bulk of their work for centuries. Whenever they contend with any opposition at all they initially get their shit pushed in, then get any hostages killed.https://www.businessinsider.com/2-women-who-poisoned-46-russian-troops-in-shoot-out-with-fsb-report-2024-1?op=1
>>64277294Oh wait, the TWO new burning refineries. How could I forget
>>64277305>open article>check source>obvious ukro cipso telegram channel>literally no other corroborationyou know this shit isn't real, right? you are reposting pickle jar ghost of kyiv tier shit like it means anything.
>>64277367As opposed to all the other wacky/stupid/insane shit we've seen happen on camera? Like the zigs throwing sandals at FPV drones hurtling towards them, or ziggers flying into the air like a pop rocket from a grenade in a hole, or the gay blowjob drone drop, or the second gay blowjob drone drop, or the third gay blowjob drone drop.
>>64277377Or when mobiks throw their AKs at the FPV drone instead of shooting it, likely because they panic to due only having a couple weeks of training at best.
>>64277283Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Europe actually ramped up production and pumped so much money into the local MIC companies that some of them had their stock value grow 3+ times over the past 2 years. Contrast that with -17% on Lockheed Martin (ytd).Some European countries are already canceling US orders or picking local alternatives because wartime demands have been mostly met, and the increased output will suffice for post-war rearmament.These decisions have mostly been made in 2023 and have nothing to do with Trump. The scale of it all also makes it impossible to run anything back. All you can hope for is a quick cash grab based on providing some stopgaps, but most US-made equipment will absolutely get phased out a generation down the line tops.As for the current war, you got overtaken in every equipment category aside from maybe air defence (because Patriot batteries need to eat).
>>64276581>What is the state of the Russian SOF?Decomposing in Ukraine and the Black Sea
>64277367>cipsoPidoran thinks he's invisible, lmao
>>64276840NK has basically been a giant artillery factory for the past 70 years hedging their bets on levelling Seoul and every populated zone south of the border with conventional shells as their MAID strategy before they got their hands on nukes a few years ago. They're able to pump out conventional artillery shells at a much faster pace than NATO can produce because the US and EU just manufacture hi tech wunderwaffen, evidenced by the million articles online describing the west failing to produce conventional artillery munition to supply Ukraine in the conflict.
>>64277446>Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Europe actually ramped up production and pumped so much money into the local MIC companies that some of them had their stock value grow 3+ times over the past 2 years. Contrast that with -17% on Lockheed Martin (ytd).Rheinmetall's stock price doubled in February after the White House told the EU to get fucked and fend for themselves but other EU arms manufacturers are not doing too great. Even RHM's price has stagnated since that point. If you are a /biz/ type, EU military firms are a pretty good investment opportunity at the moment precisely because their values are not skyrocketing now.
>>64277562SAAB is +129% ytd,Thales +74%Leonardo +147%etc.There's also been some crazy shit like +600% for a smaller Polish company I can't remember off the top of my head.It's too late to buy imo, the markups already happened, no point in chasing two years after the fact. You're right in the sense that there's been no significant action on these stocks for a while, but that's precisely because the ship has already sailed.
>>64277612The stock market is so gay, because everything is always "already priced in". For every hobbyist who thinks he knows what defense companies are next up for contracts, 100 gay analysts on Wall Street knew months ago. t. bought Lockheed in 2022
>>64277547And those shells will magically teleport to the Russian positions in Ukraine from their depots in North Korea?
>>64277367>ziggers STILL buckbroken by GoK
>>64276581>What is the state of the Russian SOF?Last I read about them was that they had been transformed into an improvised NCO corps for all the untrained mobiks and kontraktniks.
>>64276839>not only did they get NK back as a satellite stateTo clarify, Russia is North Korea's satellite state.
>>64277377>or the gay blowjob drone drop, or the second gay blowjob drone drop, or the third gay blowjob drone drop#1 top down shot in car repair shop ruins, #2 in a trench, #3 FPV in a lone building in the middle of literal nowhere. Am I missing any?
>>64277455Akshually the Black Sea is made by two layers of water, due to the Bosphorus being closed for a time, and when it opened new water flood in: the first one is normal sea water, below that there is a layer of water that, being stuck there, has no oxygen, so nothing rots. Greek and Roman shipwrecks are down there still intact. In the year 4000 they will accidentaly fish up a VDV and release some illness that they thought extinct. Truly russian are a curse
>>64277963Do the mobik rape videos that Russians post on Telegram as blackmail count?
>>64278090You're missing this one, which may be the #3, but its actually in a tracked garden shed
>>64278104>drone drop>clearly FPV drone
>>64276840>"a literal shithole of a country where people eat grass to survive was invaluable in providing military equipment to a nation that's supposed to be one of the biggest military-industrial complexes on the planet"Haha yeah imagine some major power having to throw turd world Korean materiel and troops around to buttress their war effort. Crazy...>imagine saying this with a straight face and thinking it's an argument that paints russia in a positive lightAs opposed to the U.S bringing in materiel from fucking Yemen, Pakistan, and Sudan to arm Ukraine? Both sides are desperate for materiel and have gotten creative with how they've materialized it to say the least; and Russia's method of opening up to NK has proven to be much more reliable than America's many methods, because like I said, they're an entire nation forced at gunpoint and paid in food to make Cold War-era weapons/materiel that Russia needs for an conventional war of attrition.
>>64277446>their stock valueThis is what I'm talking about. Stock value doesn't mean fucking shit in a conventional war, materiel does.>you got overtaken in every equipment category aside from maybe air defenceNo they haven't, and I can cite a RUSI paper from April that goes into detail how Europe has still managed to be destroyed by Russia in terms of production both overall and for this specific conflict:https://static.rusi.org/winning-the-industrial-war-comparing-russia-europe-ukraine-2022-24.pdf
>>64278120Ah, i didnt think that much of the semantics, more of "fag russians get killed mid faggotry" than specifically drone drops
>>64277668>those shells will magically teleport to the Russian positions in Ukraine from their depots in North KoreaRussia has a land border and a railway line going to NK, retard; and it's pretty much impossible to interrupt unless you want to gamble on another Korean War.
>>64276584USA here Not my problem
>>64278206And Russia has light speed trains that will get those shells to Ukraine instantly?
>>64278230For the purposes of your emotional-cognitive level? Yes, you can think of it like that.
