this shit's never gonna be cheap again right
nope, never ever. eastern euro countries dont even use that round anymore.
The only people who still use it are switching to Grendel. It's a dead-end cartridge. Nostalgia and milsurp are the only reasons it still breathes
>>64289624i just want cheapass milsrup to feed my AK
>>64289610Considering dogshit Azerbaijan ammo is 40cpr, no. The dollar is dead people just haven't accepted in mentally yet. Buy gold unironically.>>64289624>only people who still use it are switching to Grendel.Lol your ass. It's still the standard in Africa, the middle east, and a significant amount of Asia. It's really only dead in Europe.Plus the serbs never really move on anyway. They've had 5.56 "standardized" since the 80s. They never commit to ditching it even though 6.5 Grendel is round two of switching. It's telling their M19 is made to have a quick change 7.62 Soviet barrel.
>>64289665>6.5 Grendelwhat is the hype with this round? i tend to not follow the latest and greatest developments.
>>64289673It's a 20 something year old meme. Basically it's a round mimicking 308WIN trajectory with a cartridge that fits in an AR-15 magwell. Good round but like all the other 5.56 replacements it's not going to.6MM ARC is the new hot round which is basically 2023 6.5 Grendel.6.5 Grendel is getting a mini revival with French GIGN and Beretta teaming up to make the NARP in that round too.
>>64289665>Buy goldBased knower.
>>64289610No. The oligarchs sold off all the surplus. I may sell my AKs and half my SkS'.
>>64289618speak for yourself my nigga, it's 26 cpr for locally produced steel case 7.62x39 (tulammo, regular fmj, we have hp too) in my LGS and both 7.62 and 5.45 are the most popular rounds among recreational shooters (tacticool larpers, same as america) and hunting too.22 is more expensive than 7.62x39 here, imagine thatt. Russian
It can be cheap if you put in the effort.
>>6428970122lr above 30cpr sounds like hell but in reality the average Russian is making such dogshit wages 26cpr is like $3 a cartridge anyway so it's moot.5.45 being a dominant cartridge is kino though. It's basically an improved 5.56.
>>64289701>22 is more expensive than 7.62x39 here>t. RussianYou have bigger problems than the price of rimfire.
>>64289711it's actually only 31 cpr loltell me, what is the average price for .223 right now in the US?I understand the argument you're making, you're saying our ammo should be 5 times cheaper because we make less and I agree, but guns are not as widespread hence the market is smaller and prices are higher>5.45 being a dominant cartridge is kino though. It's basically an improved 5.56.we also have better gun laws than california (only exception is inability to own pistols but.. you can't even carry them in california lmfao), no assault weapon bans, an AK/AR with 30 rd mag / drum mag is perfectly fine, but we are subject to waiting periods before we can buy rifled weapons>>64289713>You have bigger problems than the price of rimfire.some of the *recent* developments in our gun rights:blank guns have to be registered in police (because you buy a 200$ turkshit blank pistol and convert it with 50$ of tools and boom you have a flimsy but working gun)first gun must be a double or a single barrel shotgun, then after 2 years pass you can buy pump actions and smoothbore AKs (identical to a rifled one, but most of them run beefier rounds)let me tell you about .366 TKM, it's a round designed to be used in smoothbore AKs and SKSes, it's basically a straight walled 7.62x39 with a 9.58mm 15g (231 grain) bullet going at 2k ft/s producing 2700 joules of muzzle energydesigned to drop bears dead at 200 metersit's literally an intermediate round on steroids
>>64289734>*recent* developmentsInteresting. But it goes deeper than that.
>>64289734>let me tell you about .366 TKM,tarkov has been out for years. we all know about 366tkm
>>64289764one would think people here shoot their guns and not play games>>64289758>But it goes deeper than that.are you Russian too or how do you have information?if you're talking about gun OSAGO then it's just random unconfirmed BS, sure they want to make us pay a yearly tax for each gun license but it's not happening (yet), only rumors
>>64289685>6.5 Grendel is getting a mini revival with French GIGNThe reason(according to the GIGN):"5.56 lacks stopping power"were the fudds right?
>>64289827They said the same thing when they adopted the 7.62 Soviet. Pretty sure the GIGN just likes cool guns. They've been like that forever.
>>64289852>Pretty sure the GIGN just likes cool guns.enters a comically oversized revolver
>>642898275.56 lacks power AND accuracy at rangeARC is practically the same in terms of weight and recoil but can hit targets twice as far in the same sized rifle with significant ease whereas 5.56 it's hard as living fuck
Grendel is a nice cartridge.
>>64289865>>64289872>we could have ARC/GRENDEL instead of 80k psi monstrosity
>>64289792>how do you have information?Freedom of the Press. It's just a First Amendment thing.
>>64289902>a First Amendment thing.Oddly, we let our women speak, too.
>>64289902>Freedom of the Press. It's just a First Amendment thing.well what does your info tell you? what info about our gun laws and its future do you know that I don't?
It’s not THAT expensive
>>64289953>what info about our gun laws and its future do you know that I don't?The price of rimfire is the least of your problems.
>>64289967>The price of rimfire is the least of your problems.well tell me what I don't know then? I'm pretty well versed in our federal gun law, I read it multiple times and I know the process of getting a gun and renewing the license
>>64289992>he wants me to share info on this fed honeypotngmi just be ready
>>64289997>bro you don't know what's coming for you........>trust me on that bro, I, a mighty American know the future of your gun laws>I can't even tell what exactly will happen though, but trust me, you DON'T KNOW what's comingnigga we have considered all the scenarios on Russian /k/ 100 times alreadythey know that we know that they know that it's going to be bad, the question is whenthey're gonna tighten the laws as soon as a next mass shooting happensyou're just acting smug because you have it better and you don't even know how exactly they're going to tighten our laws because you don't know themmeanwhile california banned glocks, keep on keeping on I guess, it sure will never reach YOUR low pop mcbumfucknowhere fuddtkeyama mcyoming state
>>64290024>mcbumfucknowhere fuddtkeyama mcyoming state>Says the RussianSo like your entire country but infinitely better mr Nigeria with snow?
>>64290038NTA but why are you sperging?
>>64290038odd, 4chan ate my postbut again, you still haven't told me how exactly they're going to regulate our guns>So like your entire country but infinitely better mr Nigeria with snow?average gun owner in Russia has the royal privilege of choosing a gun not based on how it will fare against a pack of niggers bursting into your home / attacking you on the streetsof course, you can make the argument that's it's not the case in fuddtkeyama, but then what is REAL america but a low population state with zero economy and opportunities
>>64290066>odd, 4chan ate my postnigger three times does that
>>64289792>one would think people here shoot their guns and not play gameswe do bothI make my tarkov builds after my irl builds and vice versa
Bought 1k rounds of Golden tiger and 1k Wolf and I've never even fired my AK. Someone take this shit off my hands
>>64290141Nigga go shoot your gun. 7.62x39 AKs are legitimately some of the most enjoyable rifles to shoot.
>>64289710And your time is worthless
>>64290172You're posting on 4chan on the weekend, you don't need to pretend you have a life
>>64289861Perfect sniper weapon. Btw we're going to need 100k rounds of full house .357 Magnum per soldier on a yearly basis to maintain competency. Hope you understand.
>>64290167I dont want to. I don't like AKs anymore. I keep it in a case beneath my bed out of disgust
>>64290066>but then what is REAL america but a low population state with zero economy and opportunitiesLMAO you can live in a Podunk shithole and own a home and raise a family all while making $40k/yr which is a dream raise for the average Russian.The difference is people make a CHOICE that they don't want that and move to the city. You have zero option to do that. Plus>Pretending Russian isn't a city state and 99% of the country just lives in a dump with no roadsWe have YouTube we know what your country is like outside of Moscow. No one would choose that over some town in Wyoming.
>>64290141>1k rounds of Golden tigerI still have one 1k case with the 8M2 projectiles stored away.Out of all the x39 I shot, that and the corrosive Yugo brass case was the best. I wish I had bought so much more of it when it was available for $200 a brick.
>>64290286>I keep it in a case beneath my bed out of disgust>with the cum wad tissuesHow humiliating.
>>64290390>tissuesI am not a barbarian
>>64290308lolsorry, but you are ill informedI won't even argue with you doe>We have YouTube we know what your country is like outside of Moscow.I'm outside of Moscow and for some arcane reason we have nice roads public transport and one of my relatives makes 50k a year being an engineer50k in Russia is like 150k in America40k a year may be enough for fuddtkeyama but it's fucking fuddtkeyama ahahahlmao
>>64290690>I'm outside of Moscow and for some arcane reason we have nice roads public transport and one of my relatives makes 50k a year being an engineer>50k in Russia is like 150k in Americaactually, scratch that, that's anecdotal evidencethe point is that prices for AVERAGE goods are on par with what you earn hereguns are not AVERAGE goods in Russia hence the ammo is roughly the same price as american one while you would expect it to be cheaper
>>64289610>this shit's never gonna be cheap again rightI'm old enough to remember when Chinese ammo was around 10 cents a round.Then Chinese ammo got banned. :(7.62x39 isn't going away any time soon.Once this shit between RU and UKR ends, I believe ammo will be more plentiful, but prices will remain high.I doubt we'll ever see AK ammo prices anywhere near what they were before the Russian import ban.
>>64289902Funny thing about this, Yeltsin thought this was staged, that they loaded this store full of food to fool the Russians.He then made and impromptu stop at another grocery store and saw the same thing.That's when he realized how utterly fucked Russians were.
>>64289624>6.5 Grendellooks suspiciously like 5.45x39, just bigger.
>>64290778That's because 5.45x39, .220 Russian, .22 ARC, 6mm ARC, 6.5 Grendel, 7.62x39, and 9x39 are all essentially the same cartridge, just necked for bigger or smaller bullets.
>>64290727Why have you locked in on this Rusanon? Why are you sperging so hard?
AR uppers in 300blk are the new 7.62 AKs
>>64290829I come here to banter and argue with you guys lol
Poor guy, imagine being a r*ssian. My last batch of cattle had a higher quality of life than most of your countrymen. I will continue to rawdog my wife and not give a single solitary fuck about the price of dogshit slav ammo.
>>64290910State? Post your setup
>>64290972My wife or the cattle
>>64291005Cattle of course
>>64291021You want pictures of my cattle?
>>64291058Yeah, also what state
>>64291093Your mudda
>>64289610Do they take the same projectiles as .308 if one wanted to reload it? Or is it their own dumb bullet that no one makes so even if you reload its still expensive
>>64291005Your wife, with timestamp.
>>64291117
>>64289734When you said .22, amerifats think .22lr, not .224 cumrad.
>>64289688And since that was posted, bitcoin has tripled.
>>64291160B-but it’s a scam! Goldbugs really are retarded.
>>64291156>When you said .22, amerifats think .22lr, not .224 cumrad.well I meant .22lr lol, no one thinks .22 stands for .223
>>64290141drop a burner email with photo of the ammo and I'll pay you for it.
>>64291160>>64291176Gold also tripled. The secret is that gold is also a scam, and it's currently facing the same rampant speculation as buttcoins. Protip: if you "invest in precious metals" and you don't have them stored either on your property or in a private box in a bank vault that you have the only key for, then what you're doing is exactly the same as investing in stocks or buttcoins. Even if you do have personal control over your wealth, if you're invested in materials like gold that people treat just like stocks, you're in for a crash along with the stock market. Silver and copper are a bit better, but honestly you're better off investing in things people will want after a collapse, like fuel/electricity, alcohol, and ammunition.
>>64291213Gold is barely up 2x from that date meanwhile BTC is up 5x.
>>64289610>caring about ziggerslop
>>64289610>cheap again rightas cheap as you can make your own with a full hand crank or automated setup.
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