I'm going with Canada.>various successful and heroic actions like Vimy Ridge, Juno Beach, Ortona, Kapyong>fourth largest navy by the end of WW2, with three aircraft carriers in the early Cold War, although not all operational at one time>over a thousand fighters, most built in-country, the Canuck and abortive Arrow being entirely homegrownNow>effectively non-functional as a military>less than 100 operational fighters which have doubled their intended service life>top heavy command of apparitchiks who at excel at mandating online diversity courses>procurement of anything from socks to planes to handguns is a comedy of errors
The Bongs have this but worse
>>64290625Canada could conceivably recover, the Bongs have no escape route.
>>64290612The UK. Canada has at least always been in a subordinate and supporting position for the UK and other allies, and has less of a need for strong conventional military capabilities. Britain has all of the same problems with bureaucratic rot and funding, except it went from having uncontested military dominance in every single field to a nearly nonexistent fourth rate military power.
>>64290656there was an infographic posted here that I can't seem to find anywhere online that was made when the Royal Marines adopted the KAC AR, it showed a marine and all the equipment he carried, with the gears brand and country of origin.Literally every single thing was made in another country.
>>64290625>The Bongs have this but worseBritish military is one of the few Euro militaries with an actual global presence.
>>64290708That is still quite a long fall from owning half the globe.
>>64290696We don't need to make plastic harnesses when our financial market is the envy of the world
>>64290775>english children are being fed into a pakistani industrial rape machine and entire tribes of arabs are being dumped on our small towns, but its okay because look at these numbers!I genuinely have to assume you are jewish because nobody else could possibly think "the financial market" is what matters at the current state of decay
>>64290612Royal NavyI hope with the return of history and the lack of requiring a Army on The Rhine, the Bongs should rvturn to traditional Navy Maxxing
>>64290775>the City State of London and it's UKstan anchor
>>64290612Iran/Persia>One of the largest and most respected/feared militaries in antiquity>Still maintained a decent armed force into the 20th>Early 20th century were late to the party on some things, but still a decent force, but had a small, but respectable MIC producing licensed British equipment>ffw post-1979>MIC is a global laughingstock building cheap UAVs, glorified F-5s and M38s with 4 headlights among other things>Structure of forces are disorganized>What weapons they do have are laughably out of date, even from countries than have not sanctioned them>Cannot even win against Arab countries.
Canada has never been a major military.
>>64290736I guess it depends on if you're going to measure decline proportionally or on an absolute scale, cause while the Bongs may have slid further in distance, Canada is almost at the dividing by zero point.
>>64290836yes but once upon a time we were respected for at least some level of technological development and having the most elite infantry in the game. Those days are long past now.
>>64290612The only acceptable answer is Germany
>>64290625>>64290708>>64290736>estimated over £60billion building an unfinished RAILWAY LINEnuclear power for the Queen Elizabeth class carriers was rejected due to cost
>>64290885>biggest gun in Germany 1944>800mm>biggest gun in Germany 2025>155mmYeah that's pretty bad
I mean come on, if you consider them to be a direct successor to the USSR then its pretty obviously them. They went from constantly innovating and terrorizing half the world to a bunch of third worlders charging into machinegun fire on dirtbikes
>>64290885Seconding this
>>64290957No, the Russian military hasn't changed since the mid 19th century. They've always been incompetent and reliant on meatwaves, they just had help from the US during WW2 and that built up their industrial base to the point they could challenge western powers.
Is there any military that isn’t in decline right now?
>>64291011Poland comes to mind.
>>64291011China.But only because 30 years ago they were synonymous with poverty.
>>64291011The US and chinkland
>>64291042thiswhen I was a kid China had nothing more than a fleet of FACMs and you could eat a ten-course feast in rural China for one (1) US Dollar
>>64291011Russia is using up the old junk that was not needed and replacing it with new quality gear, and recruitment is up!Out with old, in with new.
>>64291043I would argue the US is in considerable decline at least in terms of standards for their soldiering. Everyone I talk to complains it's nothing but bureaucracy and admin now
>>64291144That's just peacetime military for you. Americans aren't used to it after having been engaged in various wars for nearly a century straight. As bad as you think I things are, Europe is much further down that track.
If we are going by numbers, vehicles, infrastructure? And then ignore all other context?It's the US military. The US military during WW2 is the largest fighting force ever assembled (cumulatively) with more of literally everything than any other military combined. It hurts people's brains when you explain to them that you could take every Navy in history, add up their tonnage, and they would have been smaller than the combined US fleet during WW2. It seems impossible, but it's a real figure. The military infrastructure in the homeland was so thick you couldn't go ten feet without accidentally finding some shop or some person somewhere who was producing something in some manner for the war. Granted, none of that was sustainable. You can't exactly operate any kind of economy long-term under those conditions, but that's not the question here. If we're going peak American military power on a purely stat based analysis, then the answer is unequivocally America. No one else is even close. The American war machine now is a token force compared to then, and while that may seem like an unfair comparison, OP does the very same thing when talking about Canada. Put the sheer stats aside and focus on effectiveness as a fighting force, technology, etc.? Then obviously the American military of today would mop the floor with the American military of WW2, but again, that isn't the question.
>>64290612Shitaly
>>64291210On the very long arc of history from the ancient times to today? Possibly
>>64290957I don't think it counts if they've been at rock bottom for all but a 20-30 year period, (and then it's because they were siphoning off of vassals), for literally their entire history.
>>64290971>Boats are menThe Russian Homosex Way is a thousand year old tradition.
>tfw no one has mentioned Mongolia
>>64291011Ukraine, however they have a cheat code in that they are spending a downright absurd amount of GDP on the military thanks to much needed gibs from allies and the fact that it's an existential war for survival means that they need to be damn sure that budget isn't being wasted. If monkestan doesn't collapse in the next two or three years they will finish building enough factories and such that, assuming the money doesn't dry up, they'll start churning out their own domestic vehicles like crazy. They're also apparently looking to start exporting some of their kit they have extra production lines for as a way to help pay the bills, I wouldn't be surprised to see them becoming a major MIC global supplier assuming TZD continues as it has and there isn't some giga-happening like Chairman Pooh sending his new vassal 2,000,000 chinks he wants to die or something.
>>64291232To be fair Mongols weren't so much an army as an entire culture and civilization that would come kick your ass.But yes they were probably the biggest meteoric rise then fall in history.
>>64291141bait or retardation, call it.
>>64291302Hey, be easy on Ivan. He’s still mourning the Soviet Union.
Sweden>fourth largest air force>in case of war planned to mobilize 800k men, more in reserves>had warehouses and bunkers all over the country>planned to help Finland with tens of fighter planes if cold war gone hot>big military industry making everything at homeAnd now it's just 40k men, few planes and a rubber duck. No conscription or anything. Well, at least their surplus was cheap.
>>64290825Such the cost of being a pariah state, they have no access to new technologies or the industrial capability to produce it. Most people wouldn't even realize that they're significantly further behind nearly all of their neighbors or comparable nations' militaries without looking at their inventory and MIC products as you said. 1979 actually sent them back to the middle ages. >>64290885Germany has the economic and political capacity to rebuild and has maintained some semblance of a functional core to reconstruct their military around. Certainly ahead of the Netherlands, their military decline is terminal and they might as well not be a sovereign state anymore.
>>64290971>. They've always been incompetent and reliant on meatwaveswhy change something that works?
>>64290802>Navy MaxxingNavy maxxing is expensive and requires lots of money to invest and healthy industry to build it. The UK has none of that shit
>>64291950Bongs should get back some colonies for that reason.
>>64292004>>64292004meanwhile we are paying Mauritius over £100m per year for the next 99 years
GreeceIranItalySpainUK is heading there and probably will be in a decade or two
>>64292152>Improve relations>Send subsidies>Form alliance>Request vassalization>AnnexJust like EUIV
>>64290775Definitely a filthy jew opinion. Please refrain from using the word "we" when talking about the western nations your people spend their whole lives trying to ruin.
>>64290612Definitely Canada. At the end of WW2 we had the 3rd largest navy in the world. Granted that was through the destruction of the German and Japanese navies, but still
>>64290612Also this guyhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_BullIt's been theorized that he was killed by Israelis
>>64290775the choice of UK leadership to let the empire and the country itself decay in order to focus on that "financial market" is the reason why the UK is where it is you retard.
>>64290612probably germany, went from battling two superpowers at the same time to barely being able to deploy one brigade in a foreign country
>>64292667>germany, went from battling two superpowers at the same timeyou mean>pushing in a declining world power and an (precariously) ascendant one, while hoping that the other war-scarred world power would just give up instead of getting their shit together and hoping that the dormant world power would be too busy to care about Europe.Germany's performance in WWII was a fluke, that was only enabled by how screwed up and complacent the Great War left their neighbors.
>>64290775My assPost nose nigelberg
>>64290612in history?persians the mightiest empire of its time all it took was say yes to the spartans on helping them fucking athens then they collapsed like 9/11greecefrom alexander the great concquering the known world to basicly chilling to their backyardalso greece during athens golden years global(as global as it could be back then)influence that couldnt adapt to the savages of italy and lost carthaginians had it even hilariously worse than rome then the most hilarious one is spain they were like the british but they didnt collapse as muchand the absolute comedy gold the british from a global ruler to having ships now that barely gets out of the port in working condition
Limiting it to states with obvious continuity (Persia, Rome, Greek city states etc. have incredibly limited continuity): It's obviously Japan. They went from the swinging dick of their own backyard to no longer even being fully willing to defend themselves.
>>64291932Because shells over manpower is the superior strategy and what any civilized industrial nation should be using.
>>64293381posted from israel
>>64293511dumbfuck if i was posting from israel i would have saidalexander visit israel and kneeled before the god's messengerwhich anyone BUT the israelis know this is absolutely dogshit cause he was fighting at hindus at the time if anything he would have streamrolled the area if he cared a bit more
>>64292177The UK is already below all of those
>>64291035buying a thousand tanks for corruption motives isn't impressive.
>>64290775But your financial market is in freefall and only propped up by Russian oligarchs and Arab princes using it as a tax haven. UK companies are now listing themselves on US stock exchanges because there is simply zero growth or investment to be found at home.
>>64293511that's clearly a jeet way of posting
>>64293415>no longer even being fully willing to defend themselvesJapan could invade Russia and take half the country, even despite their decades of stagnation they still maintain a force that is miles better in integration, training than any of their neighbors.
>>64290885>The only acceptable answer is Germanyabsolutely notBundeswehr is rightfully laughed atbut mostly for incompetence and missing fundingand not for falling behind technologicallythey literally have top notch military contractors in every categoryeven best ones in AFVs, sensors / radars, comm, subs, satellite and moreadditionally the 3rd biggest industrial base (after US / China) to support a possible ramp upthe decline from cold war days sure was steepbut that was a conscious decision and never "final"
>>64294114also I've been seeing a decent ramp up with their military recently probably just in case the powers that be want them to get involved in ukraine. The biggest issue facing the Bundeswehr is the overarching issue with Germany since WW2 and that's the total apathy of your average Gernan. No fighting spirit left.
>>64294130>seeing a decent ramp up with their military>probably just in case the powers that be want them to get involved in ukrainemultiple factors>commitments to Ukrainee.g. IRIS-T and shell productionlike shell production went from <10k/y in 2021 to >1.1million/y in 2025also PzH2000 and RCH-155, the latter one with 1-2/month for Ukraine alone until 2029>expanding Bundeswehr and Lithuania baseBundeswehr personell should grow ~5-7% this yearand the brigade in Lithuania drains some equipment (can't cosplay with wood models there)so plenty procurement there>threats from Russia and new debt finally allowedso parliament went on a shopping spree>and that's the total apathy of your average Gernana LOT changes during the last few yearsi don't think that's the case any more
>>64293693We're pretty bad but, we're nowhere near that level
>>64291144>>64291011The Us has been in decline since the 80s
>>64291488We have conscription now again and have had for years.
>>64294499Partial conscription. And you have like a few thousand men serving per conscription cohort. Call me back when you have at least the same numbers as Finland, with you having twice the population as Finland.
The obvious answer is the Bundeswehr. But I would like to also draw your attention to the Dutch armed forces, that lost one very respectable navy - only 1 tier below that of the UK and France at the time.Commanded a modern tank fleet of ~1000 Leopard 2's and sold ALL of them for pennies and procured 213 F-16s. What a shame.
>>64290625The bongs can actually use their (now meagre) assets independently and globally, which does count for a lot, not many nations have the logistics capability to do so
>>64293381>then the most hilarious one is spain they were like the british but they didnt collapse as muchMy issue with that is that Spain militarily was kinda a meme. Their large empire in the new world was mostly as a result of them getting there first, and then they just sort of did nothing with it.Like, the British and French ended up using the resources to feud with each other on the continent and do empire shit across the world; what did Spain even do on the continent? Go beat up some swamp germans? Lose a bunch of ships on a scenic cruise around the british isles?
>>64294696Finland thanks for the tanks.
>>64294499>We have conscription now again and have had for years.Sweden during cold war: every male gets conscripted. Sweden today: 1 male in 8 is taken for conscription, because there are simply not enough facilities to train everyone, they are gone forever.
>>64294752Manolos sent millions to keep their empire from falling apart in the 1800s and they still lost everything to their Jose colonials and a nascent American empire.
>>64294696>>64294696You weren't doing anything sensible with the Leopards anyway, ever. They are better used in Finland.
>>64290625>>64290612I’m not pretending that the UK’s position is any good but we’re still equal or marginally ahead of the other large Western European states like Italy, Germany and Spain in terms of capabilities (maybe France would be clearly in front if they could actually operate a stealth fighter):>17 frigates and destroyers is roughly the equivalent to France and Italy’s Navy.>6 Astute SSN, more modern than French who’ve not fully phased out ancient Rubis class for Barracuda’s yet.>basically have given up on Amphibious capability and clearly outclassed by Italy on this front.>arguably over-engineered VTOL carriers, one of them mechanically unreliable but at least to be equipped with 5th gens.>reasonably large inventory of +100 eurofighters and planned 40+ F-35B to be in service, comparable to neighbours again.>army is biggest mess and can’t really move on from Afghan in terms of doctrine and equipment. Still generally some well trained units but mechanised inventory diminished.>recruitment and retention crisis in all branches eating manpower.>still ahead of France and other Euros on logistic and force protection (they needed us to get Mali off the ground).In short things are bad, though our navy and air force isn’t quite as small or ineffectual compared to similar euro countries as imagined. We could at minimum fight off any long-range air attacks or naval incursions by Russia.Canadian’s still worse compared to us in their post-cold war decline. Their navy still uses our second-hand SSKs from the 80s with no replacement due any time soon. The RCAF situation with hornets is really bad with several crashing due to maintenance issues. While obviously they would rely on Yanks to fight an incursion, I wouldn’t write off the Donald ignoring it a while till his hand was forced so Canuck’s need to be prepared to go it alone for basic defence.
>>64290882Garand was a Canuck, after all.(I won't call him a Leaf; such would be too derogatory.)There was some other Canadian invention that the US adopted and used enthusiastically as well, but I can't remember...
>>64295246beer (verification not even required)
>>64291932At least you admit there is no strategy and brain just meat
>>64290612>Arrow entirely homegrownThis Arrow crap is getting absurd. Just completely detached from reality. It used American engines from the USAF F-105, American avionics from the USAF F-102, all three weapons ever mounted on it were American missiles that had been on other American aircraft for several years, it never managed to exceed the speed of older American planes like the F-104 (which broke mach 2 before the Arrow was even cancelled, Arrow never broke mach 2) had only 60% the F-104’s service ceiling, and Chuck Yeager called it “nothing special” in late-life recollections of testing it. Avro the company getting scrapped was probably a bad idea but almost every single technologically advanced part, including all of the weapons, avionics, engines, and computers were American. It was a jobs program masquerading as an airplane, and it’s entirely the Canadian government right, and potentially responsibility, to provide jobs programs, but we’ve gone from the myth of the arrow being really good to the myth of the arrow somehow being “homegrown”, as if it wasn’t just a chassis filled with American parts. Canadian dependence on the United States is basically exactly the same regardless of the arrow existing. “Oh, but if they were building the arrow, then surely they would have begun accumulating designs and local experts!” Again, there’s really no evidence of this. Canada has had the opportunity to build American aircraft in its territory, regardless of the arrow existing. Even freaking Japan gets to build F-16s. The arrow doesn’t represent anything special at all, it was an idea that was closer to building an American plane, than to designing a Canadian one, And could choose to build American Plains at any point because they are a pretty damn close ally and America has a lot of legacy designs that they’re fairly all right with friendly nations building.
>>64291144>Everyone I talk to complains it's nothing but bureaucracy and admin nowThat's every military from every era.
>>64295004probably has more to do with being bent over the table by Napoleon and france for 20ish years, and only goes to further prove my point.
>>64294696Any reading material on the Cold War Dutch forces (Other Euro forces too?
>>64291043US is declining but it's not as bad as it's made out to be but it's not as good as it's used to be. But we really do have a lot of old equipment and we really do need to move on from them simply because it's just way to expensive to upkeep with this old equipment. And when we do it will lead to a decline because our military will simply be smaller.
>>64295507This decline has been predicted since I was a boy, before televisions had a "remote control" or cabling system.
>>64295507Not as good as it was during the peak of the cold war but much more capable today. The Marines shedding all armor for mobile fires and amphibious vehicles just shows how quickly change can be implemented.
>>64291220Vatnik boatboys against Japanese shipgirls anime when?
>>64290612I’m surprised no one has said Argentina, before the Falklands they were one of the largest and most advanced militaries on the continent but since the fall of the junta they have devolved into a barely functioning circus with a nonexistent navy and a airforce they can’t afford to run. Say what you will about the decline of the British (and boy have they declined) but even now the Argentineans have zero capability to take the Falklands.Over mentions go to South Africa, who mind you even twenty years ago and long after Apartheid ended were still a capable force that could do expeditionary work in the Congo but are now utterly gutted.There’s also Zimbabwe who still retained Rhodesian training and tactics for good while until iirc the Congo War 2, and Cuba who were able to fight everywhere and everyone from Somalia to Angola but seem to have lost that capability since the collapse of the USSR and now exist as a paper tiger that’s probably a couple of missed meals away from a coup.
>>64295547And now it's here. You'd think hearing about it for so long would be enough to beat it into your boomer head.
>>64292597>Granted that was through the destruction of the German and Japanese navies, but stillNot just those but also>France>Italy>China>The NetherlandsHaving the biggest navy in 1945 is like having the biggest dick in China with a 5 incher. The one thing that is impressive is that the Canadian army was so large despite being the only country with an all-volunteer military during WWII iirc. They didn't use conscripts overseas so the frogs wouldn't riot again
>>64295340The Avro Arrow is the ur-Canadian boomer conspiracy theory to justify the notion that Canada COULD be a global military great power if it weren't stabbed in the back by the dastardly Yankees. Canadians talk about it like it was a state of the art fighter jet that could've ran circles around MiGs in dogfights any day of the week.In reality, it was an interceptor designed to shoot down Soviet bombers heading to Canada & USA over the high arctic, which was at the time the only conceivable delivery method for nuclear warheads. Then, when it was pretty much ready for production, the Soviets launched Sputnik which demonstrated their ability to develop ICBMs making intercontinental bombers obsolete. The government opted to fund anti-missile defense platforms along with the US instead because the Arrow was already obsolete for its role by the time it was ready for mass production.
>>64291932when has it worked?>Russo-Japanese war>lost>WW1>lost and entirely collapsed>WW2>losing until bailed out by lend lease and Allied invasions in Italy and FranceRussia has never won a war in the industrial era unless propped up by other major powers using it as a meat shield
>>64292597And only in total hulls, the tonnage wasn't impressive because it was 90% Flower class corvettes, Canada never had a capital ship or even a cruiser force
>>64290625>brown Indian vatnik buttmad about the UKDid another refinery get hit?
>>64296288It doesn't take having poo hands to recognize the decline of the UK's armed forces along with every other country mentioned here. Why don't you reply to all the other anons in the thread who said the same about bongland?
>>64296310You aren’t fooling anyone
>>64296310>all the other anons in the thread who saidAnd surely not a single one of those could be samefags by yourself.Honk honk
>>64290625>>64290612Despite technically being different countries on entirely different continents, Canada and the United Kingdom are ackshually the same country which is why they are experiencing the same problems at the same time.
>>64290886Hs2 is a problem of nimbyism inefficiency, not of workers inefficiency.Kill yourself.>>64290625Hi retard.>>64295200Your pic related reference is cut up ragebait slop btw.
>>64290625>>64290802>>64290886>>64293381>>64293693My single comment from yesterday suddenly got bongs seething out of nowhere, what does this mean?(Making this for screenshot)
>>64296314>>64296332>>64296354Genuinely don't know why you guys are so upset
>>64294752Did you just forget entirely about the 80 years war and the 30 years war, or the conquest of the Phillipines (that almost lead to the conquest of China)Spain's problem wasn't that they didn't do anything with their empire, it's that after they got Potosi they had more money than God which meant there was a 200 year period where they never had to actually had to make their operations efficient or exercise any kind of fiscal responsibility because they could just buy their way out of any problems.Also, Spain didn't have an agricultural revolution on the scale Britain did, and a lot of Britain's Imperial expansion was just trying to find new places to offload all the excess British People they had to deal with. Like the story of Australia was literally just, "where do we put all these petty criminals and prostitutes now that we can't send them to Georgia?" And the idea of checking French, Spanish, and Dutch power in the southwest Pacific was kind of just an afterthought.
>>64291043China has never had a good military
>>64296394>warriortard trying to play innocent
>>64296387>>64296394Hi warriortard. Thank you for confirming btw.Did you ever move out of that shitty apartment your parents pay for btw.
>>64296491>>64296494I don't even know who that is and why you guys assume I'm him
>>64290612>russia>second army of the world>now entering year X of the 3 day special military operation against its unprepared next door neighbor and former ally with no end in sight
>>64291248>To be fair Mongols weren't so much an army as an entire culture and civilization that would come kick your assYou mean Eurasian Nomads as a whole, rather than Mongols specifically? If that's what you mean, then yeah. The Steppe was perpetually see-sawing between overrunning the settled civs, and retreating into irrelevance. They swamped East and West beginning with the Yamnaya in the EBA(they weren't really Eneolithic like older texts say), but especially since Iranic steppe cultures like the Scythians/Sakas developed. Then the tech spread to chinky-eyed Siberians, and the flow became perpetually East-to-West and North-to-South, until firearms put the nomads permanently on the back foot.>>64290825Sad. The source of the finest bunda in the planet deserves better. But hey, that's what happens when you take your abrahamism too literally.>>64296404Population is power
>>64296491>>warriortard>existingMeds.
>>64296204I always bring it up when the Arrow is mentioned but the damndest shames are:>Iroquois engine, 26k lbf wet thrust>Sparrow 2, first attempt at active guidance, essentially a Phoenix-A 15 years early>Fly-by-wireA Phantom with only the former would be a beast.
>>64290885Weird that it took so long to say. Germany or Japan for sure. Maybe Italy if you count the Roman military.
>>64296618You forgot the part where they are putting 80 year old weapons into the field.
Poortugal. They went from an actually respected world power to "oh yeah that's a country ig"
>>64290812whats censored on the vehicle behind him
>>64297020It’s weird to think within my parents lifetime that Portugal had a empire that stretched three continents (hell when I was born they still had Macau), and that for a decade they were fighting on three different fronts at the same time (I’m not counting that business in Goa since that lasted like a day). I wonder if the Carnation Revolution didn’t happen how long the Geese would have kept fighting and if the Indonesians would still invade Timor?
>>64294088Anon, they're unsure if they can even defend themselves and have to beg us to do it for them. It's mostly a mentality problem, yes, but they definitely couldn't take anything from Russia with that mentality.
>>64294114>they literally have top notch military contractors in every category>even best ones in AFVs, sensors / radars, comm, subs, satellite and more>additionally the 3rd biggest industrial base (after US / China) to support a possible ramp upNone of that matters if your military doesn't have fighting capabilities for a week.
>>64297009TWO WORLD WARS and counting
>>64296618The state of Russia is pretty damning especially with how they've spent the past 20 odd years militarizing all of society and boasting how they're going to destroy all of HATO in one fell swoop
>>64290886>estimated over £60billion building an unfinished RAILWAY LINE*laughs nervously*
Macedonia.They conquered the Persian empire and nowadays don't even exist as a nation.
>>64290612Easily Germany, tied with France>Both went from world standard with cutting edge ideas to being NATO's errand boy
Lithuania. They used to rule the slavs.
>>64296387>brownoid embarrasses himself with bad faith post about the UK>plays the victim Good morning saaar
>>64296387>(Making this for screenshot)good morning sarr
People trying to mock the UK in this thread when it is obviously not in context even remotely, and themselves became the lolcow. It is a tale as old as 4chan
>>64296023Argentina was never that good before the Falklands either, don't kid yourself. They participated in the utter clubbing of Paraguay but they lacked critical things for its size like a navy capable of truly enforcing its dominance through their whole coast. They peaked during the 1890s just like Chile.>>64295507The inability of the US to just field new shit as of late(cancelling a shitload of new equipment like the M10 booker and cutting JLTV sales) is evidence that the problem is more that nobody really knows where exactly to go with doctrine. The only thing they're sticking to their guns with, pun intended, is the XM7 which is a largely inconsequential infantry arms bondoogle, because infantry arms don't matter for real military operations.
>>64290625>warriortard still not banned So who let the zigger janny do their spam clearing of reports?
