Is this actually a good idea? Dumping the Fn Minimi altogether for the Fn Mag?
>lets give the sharpshooter a 6x scope that weighs over two poundslegitimate insanity.
>>64290629Wouldn't want the rest of the squad to get envious about his light rifle, would you?
>>64290620>Is this actually a good idea? Dumping the Fn Minimi altogether for the Fn Mag?Yes. The more people I talk to from GWOT era, the more it sounds like 240's were the only small arms consistently hitting and killing the enemy.
>>64290620The Bongs are running Project Troubler, looking for a new lightweight 5.56 machinegun right now so clearly they're considering the swap a mistake at this pointFor Afghanistan, eh why not
>>64290620>Dumping the Fn Minimi altogether for the Fn Mag?RETVRN TO TRADITION
>>64290629Already a 9lb rifle.
Yes. Minimi Para was shit as a machine gun
>>64290629Options for a 6x optic with good eye relief, an illuminated BDC reticle and compatibility with night-vision and thermal devices were pretty limited at the time
>>64290629Huh? The VCOG Squad Common Optic on the M27 is literally 2lb, anon. What are you on about?
>>64290929And the M27 is just under 10lb, so? Where is this shit coming from you think DMRs are somehow 4lb feather weight things?
>>64290620Only when we determine where the next battlefield will be will we know if it was a good idea. It outranges the Minimi, so the FN Mag definitely is better for conventional warfare. The high mobility units will want another lightweight belt-fed; hopefully when one gets chosen, it'll be more reliable than the M249 was.
>>64290674I mean just look at the damn thing. You better get hit with that.
>>64290620As long as you have enough ammo carriers, yes. GPMGs are fuckin sick and provide a unique capability, the rest of the squad can fulfill the role of a SAW in a pinch.
>>64290620Most light infantry squads in the US have two 249s and a 240B attached when the WSL isn't using it for something elseThe 249 goes fucking insane when it works, so sounds like cope getting rid of it. I'd like each team to have an extra rifleman thoughI wish they de-standardized infantry squads so they could officially plus up the light infantry squad to 15
>>64290620Mixing bullpups and regular rifles is kino
>>64290620Does 'rifleman' mean 'too much of a fuckup to be entrusted with anything else'?
>>64290620I think the marines are legitimately the only fighting force in the world who understands where the future of warfare is going
>>64297212Not shown but DMRs are also just M27s with a leupold scope lmao. God I love the M27
>>64290620Maybe? I do not envy the poor faggot that has to carry that thing though, the MAG is great but its mostly seen in vehicles and on a platoon level for a reason.
>>64297228the marines have done away with designated marksmen and snipers
>>64297231No they have one per squad with an M38
>>64290629why the fuck are they putting the SAW acog on a dmr
>>64297235no, only recon units, force design 2030 has gotten rid of them and the 0317 scout sniper doesnt even exist anymore
>>64297290What the fuck why? I know everyone has LPVOs now but what was the issue with 2-3 guys having an MPVO?
>>64297291because the only enemy the usa has that the marine corps will face for the rest of the century is china, china being an industrial powerhouse and near peer economically means that the math of war has changed. If china can sink a carrier with a $10m missile, then the usa loses $50b in assets and 5k soldiers, which is why the us has lost every war game with china they have run. So the marine corps has completely redesigned itself to scatter to a thousand little islands armed with anti ship and anti air missiles and force china to island hop as they shoot at targets of opportunity, with the usmc losing only a handful of men on each island and for that they need simple logistic chains
>>64297290>0317Replaced by 0322 - Reconnaissance Marine, Sniper QualifiedDesignated marksman isn't an MOS, they're still 0311s, just with a bit of extra training and a slightly different gun configuration.
Nobody brought up that the GPMG gunner doesn't have a scope. He's completely fucked without an assistant gunner and not very effective even if he had one.
>>64297311regardless of whether they have attended the three week course, the equipment is not different
>>64297306I shuppose that makes sense, and with the VCOG I guess the M38 is rather redundant. Simplified logistics chains sound nice and I think the corps did overall implement infantry standardization with the M27. It’s the closest I’ve seen to a true do it all rifle despite being a (fairly) heavy bitch. I really wish I could buy one
>>64296255>I wish they de-standardized infantry squads so they could officially plus up the light infantry squad to 15There's actually nothing stopping a Platoon or Company from doing this as SOP. It's just we train at every school with 9-man squads, and most infantry units are horribly under strength and rarely have 9 dudes anyway.
>>64296255The maximum practical number now is 14, that's how guys many the Army's new tiltrotor is going to carry.
>>64297212A United States Army Infantry rifle platoon would still win.
>>64297306>IMPLESSIVE
>>64297306why does china need a $10m missile when they could just use a $10 drone like the ukrainians? not very impressive....
>>64297361i dont think the us army is ever going to fight the usmc but regardless, whoever called in the airstrike first would win, infantries dont really fight each other anymore
>>64297395no nigga
>>64297395I mean that’s a very insane exaggeration considering every conflict up to this very day has had infantry fighting each other. Sure there’s air power and artillery to consider and those are killers, but infantry still do and will continue to fight each other
>>64297418not when the us is involved, the strategy since ww2 has been to advance until you take fire, find cover, call in an airstrike until the target is destroyed, rinse and repeat. So if the usmc and us army were to fight, the usmc would probably win because they have their own air power and the army has to rely on the people they make fun of, and thus the usmc would beat them 100 times out of 100
>>64297455Again, air power and artillery are the big killers, but every single war that’s happened since WW2 involving America has also involved infantry vs infantry engagements. Usually not in a vacuum ofc, but infantry do indeed fight each other and the US is definitely not immune
>>64297467are we still talking about the usmc squad vs the us army squad?
>>64297455erm not what i studied in infantry school but okay
>>64297483Oh idgaf about that, the dude that said that is retarded. I just get a little annoyed when people make the claim that infantry are useless or that infantry don’t fight other infantry when that’s demonstrably false
>>64297485it is though, if you picked one and had to destroy the other, thats exactly what you would do >>64297494so you entered a conversation mid way about usmc squad vs army squad, moved the goalposts to make yourself angry and then got mad? Are you ok bud?
>>64297395company level infantry fights are determined by batallion mortars not by airstrikes which aren't necessarily availablebatallion mortats will be constantly adjusted as you patrol so they're already aiming 300 m infront of your forward most element, and then start blasting. but the US army rifle platoon has way more machine guns so it would win
>>64297500I think we have a misunderstanding, I was only really responding to and addressing the last part of this post >>64297395
Man the L85 with the AG36 looks like the most unwieldy piece of shit ever. How did Hebrews and Kikes convince the first world it was a better option than something like an M203.
>>64297501well if you dont think the army would have cas then i accept your defeat because the usmc would 100% have it>>64297507>i was responding to the last part of your post and ignoring the first partuh ok
>>64297324Why would a belt fed need a scope in the first placeAre we back to thinking all future conflicts are Afghanistan
>>64290620IF IM THE KING OF ENGLAND EVERY BONG IS CARRYING A SHARPSHOOTER AND YOU WILL HAVE 2 GPMGS WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES.
>>64290620the french infantry section chart is hilarious>everyones got a hk416 whatever>the DRIVER has a hk416 with a slightly shorter flash hider by like 1 inch.
>>64297627>Why would a belt fed need a scope in the first placeGuns shooting .308 and/or .277 SIG Fury can hit long distances; it's good to have an optic that can allow the user to aim at those distances too. A nice 3.5x or 4x optic works wonders for the machine gunner.
>>64290932The full sized minimi with the skeleton stock has infinite SOVL