Was UCP any good? Was it at least decent? Was it intended to be urban camouflage?
no
>>64306558Call me nostalgic but I do miss the sage green days. The actual uniforms were dogshit and would rip if you looked at them the wrong way, but I actually liked the color. Very cozy.
I fucking hated these retarded fucking things so fucking much.>Doesnt blend in with anything>Weird papery feeling>Stained retardedly easy
>>64306558It was always crap. Even as a kid who was inundated with DoD shilling at all times I thought it looked retarded and wondered why the Marines have a good uniform but nobody else uses it and why the soldiers weren't wearing woodland camo (I had yet to understand that things eventually leave service, I genuinely thought we had Shermans and Garands sitting around somewhere). Why the army never thought to just dye them or even try to modify the design is beyond me. No, rolling in the dirt and mud works for any other pattern and UCP-D still looks like hot ass
>>64306558It was supposed to be a pattern of camouflage that was universal in its application.
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>>64306561Fpbp /thread
>>64306558It was kino, and that's all that matters.
>>64307058You can't just say something is kino without reason to call it that. >the eruption at pompei was kinois different than>hepatitis is kinoUCP sucked and everyone who wore it hated it.
>>64307105I wore it, and only loved it after I couldn't wear it. Note that OCIE in UCP is still approved for use and has no wear out date. Having UCP shit is cool now.
>>64306558Camo is now obsolete. Armies should go back to distinctive /fa/ designs. At least it would improve morale.
>>64307124Unless you can show real soldiers clamoring to wear old UCP shit, you're just vouching for a crappy design.
>>64307146I'm a real Soldier, and I'm clamoring for UCP kino.
>>64307146This man is on a fucking mission to hate om UCP
>>64307124The only UCP item anyone is clamoring for is a woobie since they quit issuing them. Everything else of that generation is kinda trash compared to what replaced it. Absolutely no one is getting all hyped up to wear a Gen II IOTV in UCP when people are rocking Gen IVs and MSVs.
>>64307158>this manas he ignores>>64306561>>64306677>>64306679>>64306779>>64307037and probably>>64307165
>>64306558I had an Iraqi explain to me once (it may have even been on /k/) that the main use for the camo was the immediate recognition that you were dealing with the US occupation force. Considering the mission went from invasion to peacekeeping, it performed admirably in this role. Basically stormtrooper armor for the GWOT, not the original intention but it worked.For further proof of this, consider how many other nation's police forces adopted knock-off UCP or similar patterns in the years afterwards.
>>64307165No, the cool thing to do is to wear Tan 499 or ranger green gear with UCP cammies. It's K I N O
>>64307174The old multicam would have been better for that purpose, if that really was the case.
>>64307175Idk what kind of wack ass shit you wear to the range but I'm specifically talking about active duty soldiers, who almost universally think UCP shit is gay.
>>64307175Again, who's saying this aside from you? You're not showing any modern soldiers still wearing UCP, you're just saying it's cool like that's some kind of authority.
>>64307189>Again, who's saying this aside from you?Nobody. >You're not showing any modern soldiers still wearing UCP, you're just saying it's cool like that's some kind of authority.Correct. Only my opinion matters, obviously.
>>64307188That's because they're actually gay. If you gave them UCP, the negatives would cancel and both would stop being gay.
>>64307194Well at least you're honest. If you're going to settle on that, just post the coolest pictures you can find of operators in the UCP days. Fucking might as well.
>>643072012EZ
>>64307204>no patchYou can do better than that.
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>>64307213He obviously hadn't deployed, anon. What are you on about?
>>64307180I'm pretty sure UCP has a much more significant impact on the brains of "internationals" than it does us. It's goofy and impractical to us, but to them, it just *looks* like something an imperialist power would wear to lord themselves over you. So many post-Soviet, Balkan and Middle Eastern states adopted similar patterns for their various law enforcement groups probably hoping it would produce the same visual effect to their own populations.
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>>64307225Sure, but the reason it has that impact is because of who's wearing it. US troops could have worn alligator skin boots and CLP and they'd develop a fear of lizards and oil leaks.
>>64307232This is more my speed. Real picture of dudes downrange. The only part of the uniforms I like is the contrast with the brown gear, and I like that contrast better on green.
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>>64307240I guess, this is just how it was explained to me. Digital camos have fallen out of favor now, so it probably didn't have the same effect elsewhere used by someone else.
>>64307258Last one. I just like the contrast.
>>64307265I like the locale, the little valley does wonders to frame the whole shot.
>>64306677>Doesnt blend in with anythingThat's where you're wrong, kiddo.
civilian here. at first I was hesitant and couldn't believe I was saying it, but at this point UCP is kino. reminds me of my childhood.
>>64306558I can not imagine how embarrassing it must have been to wear this clown* shit next to Marines wearing MARPAT or foreign forces wearing something suitable to the environment. I hope the reason UCP was chosen over all the other camos was bribery, rather than sheer incompetence. *Honestly, dressing up as literal clowns may have been more beneficial than UCP. I wonder if an extra "fuck you, get dunked on lmao" psychological factor would have convinced enemies to surrender more often.
>>64307431I cannot imaging how emberassing it must have been to be stationed at 29 Palms for a whole fucking contract. Oh, wait.
>>64307265>The mismatch guy in the backgroundfuck ya, that's cool as shit
it seemed really stupid at home but in iraq everything felt grey or tan. i didn't see a tree for a whole fuckin year. in that context it was still stupid but less stupid
>>64306558UCP can be amazing against broken concrete or weathered asphalt.there is a lot of green in rocks, according to my paint mixer buddy
I walked into a Army recruiting officer, saw goobers wearing that ugly uniforms and walked out. Went straight to the Marine recruiting office and those dudes actually looked badass. This is what a warrior's uniform looks like.
>>64307174>For further proof of this, consider how many other nation's police forces adopted knock-off UCP or similar patterns in the years afterwards.Because thirdies are dumb and will follow any western trend.
>>64306558i cant believe people are actually nostalgic for this dogshit camo the army should have burned all its ucp uniforms so it could be forgotten forever
>>64306558So what the fuck happened from concept to production with UCP anyway? The official colors on paper are supposed to be greyish green-tan like MM-14, how did everything come out super blue grey?
>>64308196one of the great ucp mysteries
>>64306677>stains easilyI will say that when I fucked my national guard gf at the time the cum / fluids stains didn’t show afterwards so that was a plus I guess
>>64307971Sure thing, Lance Corporal Faggot. Now go and cry over your cutting score.
>>64308069>I can't believe guys are nostalgic for shit they wore when they were young, all their bits still worked, and they got to be with the boys doing real shit, never worried about politics and stupid bullshit.
>>64306558Picrel is the only camo you need, the enemy won't be looking for boomers
One of my favorite UCP pics
>>64311737Another UCP pic I really like.
>>64311737>>64311749holy cope.
Figured there'd be some other oldfags on here who know that the reason no one uses the Marines' uniform is because after they nabbed it from the Canadians and modded it, they patented it so that only they could wear it. Also, that UCP was the worst performing of every one of several camo patterns and it was picked largely as a branding thing by some retard general. Also, that precisely not a fucking soul liked UCP, and that it only serves as a nostalgic reminder of the simpler days as a joe.Woobies in any camo pattern are kino as fuck.
>>64311950>not a fucking soul liked UCPThis.
>>64306558It was peak GWOT SOVL... I don't really like the UCPs desu.
>>64306558It was objectively dog shit and the general that approved it should be shot. However...>>64307232>>64307258>>64311737I kinda like it when it's actually in the sandbox, dirty, and paired with brown gear. The fire retardant ones had a slightly different hue and feel. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic from my time deployed. It absolutely looks awful when you see it in garrison or in training pictures.
it was shit and was gonna go out the door eventually, but multicam somehow disgusts me more and i remember hating it begining with the first time i saw italso calling combat uniforms "digis" really stuck with me
>>64310252>Name our band
>>64312971Multicam is so ass. Is there a way to color it with green Rit dye or something to look more like Flecktarn or Finnish M05? Basically anything halfway respectable?
>>64307058>>64307149>>64307158>>64307175This user is a fat retard who lives in a squalid house with his boomer parents and uses any opportunity to fanboy over UCP or post lego men like a 5 year old child. Learn his speech patterns and bully him mercilessly everytime you see him post because he won't fuck off otherwise
>>64313837Sorry, but you will never be remembered like UCP is.
>>64307431It was embarrassing. I was stationed in Germany and we stuck out exactly like the OCT in this picture. Anytime we trained with other countries,, we had the worst camo. Even the Belgians blended in better. We kept burlap smocks for our dismounts just so they could sent up OPs.
>>64306558UCP, Stryker, M4A1, M8, Comanche all of these things are proof that the fucking Army shouldn't be trusted with any money. >USMC future >USPAT (Woodland/Desert) >HK416 gets adopted in 2000's >Comanche gets adopted >M8 gets adopted >LAV-105 instead of Stryker bullshit The Army should be no more than 50,000 and the Marines should be 500,000. You slash the military budget while getting far more in return.
>>64314169The M4 is gud tho