What are your thoughts and experiences with Walther?
>>64306615P38s/P1s specifically I like how they handle but for some reason they are always sighted/grouping really low. I've also had a P99 and it was a solid gun.
I like them. wish they still did the paddle thingy.
>>64306647>wish they still did the paddleMe too.
>>64306615I've got a P1. the accuracy is fine but the grip is oddly uncomfortable and it throws the cases straight at my facealso, don't buy a P22 or any other fake walther
>>64306615My PPS M2 is my EDC and is pleasurable to handle and shoot. I don't need extra rounds lol
>>64306647>>64306894You mean the European style mag release?
>>64307106No. A paddle is not a heel release.
Painfully mid. Sold mine, kept my Luger and C96.
>>64306615I have rather an afinity for the brand borne of its midlife aesthetic, the P88, GSP and P5. Their new stuff doesn't look great but the proper Ulm guns carry on excellent quality and featuresOne of the few quirks is what people call "tight chambers" but I think is actually a difference in their rifling's "jump" leading sometimes to a slight increase in velocity and accuracy, at the cost of more recoil in their P99-derived guns. Or maybe the recoil comes from some other quirk of the design. I dunno, but all my 9mm Walthers from the P88 on won't reliably seat overlong cartridges or strange ogives.Either way luv me Woolthas
>>64306615the p38 is a really nice handgun in terms of ergonomics, my friend carries an original ww2 era one and i've shot it a few timesand i think full size single stack pistols in general are very underrated, always have a nice grip, comfortable to carry, everything about them is just nicepersonally carry a tokarev because its so slim (in addition to the bottlenecked cartridge)
>>64307153>midlife aesthetic, the P88, GSP and P5I only learned about these because you post them on this board. We've been fucking robbed man, it's criminal that they don't make a full size hammer fired steel frame handgun anymore
>>64306615PPK and PP in .32 are sweet to shootPPK/S in .380 kinda sucks thoughP1 is also nice to shootalmost bought a P5 until I watched a takedown video and realized it's literally just a P1 but with a more sleek façadejust bought PDP and waiting or the 10 gay days to pick it up, but the trigger felt very nicefrom everything I've seen ,the PDP is one of the finest polymer striker fired pistols you can buy, and it's very reasonably pricedI feel like it's set a new standard
The only walther I have right now is a PPK but the PDP is so tempting because of that amazing trigger
>>64307153I really want a P88, very handsome handgun.I'm spooked by the frame cracking though.Is there a specific serial number range to avoid?Also you'd really think Walther would try extra hard to not have that happen after the P1 fiasco
>>64306615I have a P1 and it feels very good in the hand aside from having the worst DA trigger in the world which Germans seem to love putting in everything. The capacity is also low for its overall size if you care about that. The best part about it is the aesthetic since everyone knows it's the iconic Walther at first glance. Supposedly you can still get them as police surplus for like $300 in Germany, which is about half the price of what I paid for one imported to the US.
>>64307106no, i mean the paddle thingy
>>64308307>>64307153What about the Bersa TPR9, isn't it a copy of the P88? That way it's less of an investment/risk.Any thoughts on that Burt? Have you checked out the Bersa to compare it?
>>64307091I own one too, but it isn't drop safe. Not sure what I should do.
>>64307585They're just too dang expensive, the P88 was a luxury gun even when it was still made. Nobody's gonna pay 2,500 2025 Bidenbux for what amounts to a duty DA/SA when a new Beretta costs <$600 (and has an incredible potential with Langdon parts). Walther was smart enough to see the writing on the wall, the P99 was a fantastic gambit in a new direction and it's carried them for nearly 30 years now! But along the way they lost their brutalist look and that makes me sad too>>64308307They learned a half lesson lol, they put a steel locking block insert in the P88 at least. I don't know much about cracking, my recollection is it's something they addressed later on but when and how I don't know.They're collectors' guns anyway, once you inspect a potential buy to avoid existing cracks it's not a gun you'd want to shoot all that much. Not to poo poo the issue>>64309021For sure, I have an older Thunder Pro XT, it's well made and since it's the competition model the trigger is VERY nice. I would imagine the new ones are more trustworthy, but they're certainly a bargain """P88.""" No idea if they share frame cracking potential with their father. The Zastava CZ99, Arex Zero series and Radom Mag 95/98 are also tangential P88 descendants (with P226 DNA), the first two of which can be gotten pretty cheap
>>64309073don't drop it?
>>64306615i have a P1. groups are tight and on target at 10m.i like mine. but the bolt stop smacks into my off hand sometimes and that doesn't feel nice. and the saftey is kinda weird
>>64309073Yes it is.
>>64308307>>64309865>>64311314What ammo do you shoot in your P1s? Softer-shooting 9mm?
>>64308120Base models being optics cut and being around or less than 100 bucks more than a Glock is a really great price for what you get
>>64306615I got a P5 recently from a gun show for 600 bones in all, I'm super happy about it. Picrel (ignore the cat hair) is when I first got it, I had to swap the P38 mag catch and magazine for its P5 parts as God intended.>>64307153How do you like your P5, Burt?
I own a PPK/S in .380 with some turkish Hogue-style grips and they MASSIVLY improve felt recoil. I wish I could find another set of them but they're nowhere to be found. I was also going down a Walthe rabbithole a few months ago and got really interested in the P38K, or even just getting a shooter P1 and having the it shortened. I think it's got a really sharp aesthetic.
>>64306615I really enjoy my P1. It's a real smooth& accurate shooter once you realize it was designed& intended to be shot one-handed
>>64314395no frame bolt? keep an eye out for cracking
>>64314411Yeah I'm always concerned about it unfortunately. I just use relatively low-power blazer& winchester 115gr ammo for it. If it cracks, it cracks, but I'll get my enjoyment out of it before that happens
>>64314395same for the PPK in my experience
>>64306615Shot a PDP, didn't like it.Shot a P99, great ergos, strange trigger.Own a LP300, it's nice.
Can anyone recommend a poorfag alternative to the ppk?
>>64312451generic 115 or 124 gr magtec practice bullshit, ive never bothered with anything else as I just plink with mine
>>64306615I had a CCP, the barrel metal was too soft and after about 700 rounds the chamber shelf began to peen into the bore. Walther took it back and fixed it under warranty and I sold it. It was one of the comfiest guns I've ever held, and it even had a little gas chamber inside. It felt good to shoot and I really liked it, but I can't have a handgun last less than a thousand rounds. I also had a 1st gen p22, it was great as long as you fed it cci mini-mags, I put about 10k through it before selling it.
>>64306634I heard lore the P1 front sight got filled down to users preference.Which I might do because that shit does go low.Also how the rear sight is held on sucks ass.
>>64314952You are actually spoiled for choice.Bersa ThunderMakarov PMBaikal IJ-70 (commercial Makarov)FÉG PA-63CZ-50CZ-70CZ-83Astra Constable Heck just about everyone made a PPK clone at some point.
>>64306647>>64306894>>64308962me threethe PPS M1 was kind of ahead of its time. Would've like to have seen it be 'properly' upgraded (and kept the paddle magazine release), unfortunately its market share was eclipsed by the shortly-later released S&W Shield / later competitors
>>64315379The US just hated the paddle on the side of the gun. Most of the people here would rather have the button that cops keep pressing mid-gunfight to drop their magazine when they need it most. Both Walther and HK are now begrudgingly making their handguns with buttons instead.
>>64306634you hit low at first but keep squeezing trigger and rise does the rest.
>>64306615got to screw around with a ppq, the 22lr subcompact. worst 22lr I ever screwed with.
>>64315372Looking at the Bersa 380 now, looks like that's gonna fit the bill nicely.
>>64315372Norinco made a clone of the PPK at one point, though those aren't common in the U.S
>>64306615The quintessential ghetto blaster
>>64315771>the button that cops keep pressing mid-gunfight to drop their magazine when they need it mostLiteral skill issue, police are atrocious with guns.
How's the Walther TPH?
>>64316392True, but that doesn't change the fact that the paddle is inherently a better design.
>>64316413iirc they're finicky with ammo but like to eat quality stuff. Most people recommend CCI minimags. I can say that I have a knockoff Iver Johnson TP22. It's a potmetal clone of the TPH, doesn't have the safety decocker, only a safety and is made of zinc alloy. I can't get through a single mag without some sort of FTF or failure to go into battery. I'm thinking I might need a new recoil spring, but I also want to get rid of it>still seething almost two years later for missing a blued german TPH at an auction for $400
>>64312251A large run of the early ones were not.
>>64317030Yes they were. You are confusing one issue for another. The striker decocking on a drop is not the gun firing when dropped.
>>64317069This is about the pps m2, not the ppq.
