How effective is the Mexican army, I know they have a lot of American stuff but they don't seem to do well against the cartels.
>>64316502Taco nachos enchiladas bien
>>64316502Their army and federal police ranks are rife with corruption. The Marines are better.
>>64316502They're effectively corrupt, so very.
You can buy your way into being a general over there
>>64316502They're only pretending to fight the cartels.
>>64316502They are as effective as their government wants them to be, which is not very much.
>>64316509The federal police don't exist anymore. They were disolved due to an anti corruption campaign. A lot of army officials got dumped too. Military Police and Federal Police got replaced by National Guard, which hasn't had the same degree of corruption so far. Marines are better yes.
>>64316502The Mexican army does very well in actual engagements against cartels. Narcos are mostly retarded gangsters or junkie fodder. Only a few were militarily trained and those are now very sparse. The big problem is that many politicians in Mexico are corrupt and accept bribes from cartels so they literally penalize or punish soldiers and the military for going after narcos as that harms their bribe base.Literally had bullshit like state and municipal level politicians bring in human rights observers because the army was killing narcos at a 2:17 ratio against army losses. Many narcos were dead from grenades fire or from large diameter bullets to the head. That's simply because narcos are mostly retarded and spray and pray and army doctrine is to mostly engage them from long distance with well aimed larger 7.62mm or 12.7mm fire, outside of the effective range of unaimed 5.56 or 7.62x39 fire that narcos mostly do. It is morally correct to airstrike narcos.
>>64316502>they don't seem to do well against the cartels.Bullshit, they're rarely deployed against the cartels. When they do, the cartels get mulched.
>>64316502The army does pretty well against the cartels in open combat. They got recalled from the streets because they killed so many that a bunch of leftists accused them of being death squads. The problem is corruption, some from officers but mostly from politicians who could fix the situation but chose not to.This is the aftermath of that narco group in Jalisco who showed off a bunch of camo armored vehicles and trucks as if they were a standing militia. Army went after them with missiles which were about to expire (yes missiles expire) and grenade machineguns. They really like the 40mm GMG. All in good fun.
>>64316502>they don't seem to do well against the cartels.>i know they have a lot of American stuffTherein lies the problem. Muttshit never won any wars
>>64317441Neck yourself vatnik. Mexico mainly uses Euro stuff and some domestic arms.
>>64317441Mexico's main MANPAT and MANPAD is the RPG-29 and Igla respectfully, zigger.
>>64318444>MANPAT and MANPADHas the Mexican army ever actually used these systems?
>>64316502>furryNuke Mexico
>>64316502CuteThe army is effective, the issue is that corrupt politicians and communists punish them when they do anything because:1 killing criminals is le unwholesome2 killing my financial backers is le unwholesomeIt also doesnt help that pretty much all of them are whipped. Whole society is built around the feelings of women. Mexican women. Latinx women are retarded and or insane.
>>64316801>(yes missiles expire)It's more like a "best before". The manufacturer only guarantees they'll work properly up to that date. After that they may work or chemical/mechanical decay ends up causing problems.
>>64316502They win a lot of their engagements with the various cartel factions often times than not, and that's all 3 branches. I follow a lot of Mexican military pages on Instagram and a drug war-oriented OSINT page on X. They get pretty active and are generally well motivated in what they do from what I understand. The Achillies heel however is they're usually bogged down by either red tape or lack of resources.
>>64320288*and a lot of corruption
>>64320288Weren't those Los Zetas ex mohican SF? Why don't they properly train their hombres?
>>64318444Mexico uses more Instalaza stuff and the Milan than the RPG29. Those are used by specific units. They'll probably get replaced by Korean/Turkshit since Russia is now a Pariah state.>>64319425>The army is effective, the issue is that corrupt politicians and communists punish them when they do anything because:>1 killing criminals is le unwholesome>2 killing my financial backers is le unwholesome>It also doesnt help that pretty much all of them are whipped. Whole society is built around the feelings of women. Mexican women. Latinx women are retarded and or insane.This is the most accurate take.
>>64320532Zetas were all killed off a long time ago. It's a pretty open secret that most that weren't killed in combat were just summarily executed for being traitors. That's one of the only ways to legally earn a death sentence under Mexican law.
>>64316752>>64316801Why do leftists have such a fucking love affair with organized criminals?
>>64320764Remember when Al Capone and co simply gave the people what they wanted during a time the state deciced to play nanny? There's you answer.
>>64320775Some narcos did that long ago. Most just terrorize people now. They're not Robinhood they're fucking narcissistic psyochpaths and should be given the Pinochet Airlines treatment.
>>64316502In an actual war they'd probably do good against a nation of their level, only reason they don't kill the cartels which is essentially a really drugged up militia is because they're corruptIf I was tasked with destroying the cartels I'd go with chemical warfare, mustard in particular
>>64316502They actually tend to be fairly competent and well-trained. Overall a decent, professional force. Above average for a second-world army, even. The problem is that the leadership is so egregiously corrupt that they are simply never allowed to fight the cartels.
>>64322104>Above average for a second-world armyMexico was never aligned with NATO nor the Eastern Bloc; they fall under third world country.
>>64316502Mexican cartels are low IQ monkey apes with rifles, a farmer with a shotgun killed seven cartel hitmen with rifles before dying.
>>64316502Dudes have zero tanks, aircrafts and the air force has eight F5s and some swiss trainers with an AWACS wtf?
>>64319425This. This this so fucking much this.Mexican men's bravado and machismo is a cultural whiplash that comes from Mexican cultural subservience to women. And it's essentially just a posturing, a peacocking.When you understand that fundamentally the Mexican people are beholden to their women's screeching a lot of your questions of "but...why?" answers itself.the Cartels run amok because the women control the men. Essentially.There are deep lessons about human behavior to be taken from such.>>64316502They are at the core a good army. Mexico could Roman Expansion half of the SA continent in 5 years if we were given the will and the way.A shame many of our people only see muh taking over the USA as our Roman imperialism moment.
>>64322381>They are at the core a good army. Mexico could Roman Expansion half of the SA continent in 5 years if we were given the will and the way.Lmao, makes sense for a zero tanked and aircraft army.>the Cartels run amok because the women control the men. Essentially.There are deep lessons about human behavior to be taken from such.Is this the reason your president Claudia SHINEBOMB a jewoman?
>>64322371>Dudes have zero tanks, aircraftsAirforce actually has a lot of helos, transport aircraft and light attack aircraft. Mexico was actually one of the first countries to use combat aircraft and drones. They have a domestic drone industry and have been ramping up production and integration. They actually sell some of their light attack drones in the NATO market marketed via Turkish marques. Some domestic, Brazilian, Spanish, Israeli and German munitions are carried by Mexican export aircraft, but there needs to be a foreign final processor for Mexican arms to be legally exported as it's hard to export 100% Mexican arms due to some NPA type clause in Mexican law. The ultralight long range attack drones that have been melting ziggers have are Mexican. Probably the coolest thing that Mexico has done in the war since some hicks threw cinderblocks at the Russian troops who marched in the 2022 parade.
>>64322520>Lmao, makes sense for a zero tanked and aircraft army.You don't need tanks to take over a mountain and jungle region. You need light armor and light attack aircraft plus electronic intel and light mobile heavy fire. That's what Mexico has.>>64322520>There are deep lessons about human behavior to be taken from such.>Is this the reason your president Claudia SHINEBOMB a jewoman?I see you are a vatnik and angry that Mexico decided to give Ukraine more helos and resources.
>>64322987>Mexico decided to give Ukraine more helos and resources.Even MEXICO is sending aid to Ukraine?
>>64322520>the Cartels run amok because the women control the men. Essentially.>There are deep lessons about human behavior to be taken from such.So, Im Hispanic and Ive noticed that despite the machismo stuff there is a general gynocentric trend in our cultural behavior. And on the flip side the Anglo-Americans are quietly super patriarchal with their women taking their husbands names and overall being more into being housewives. Im speaking in general terms obviously BUT I cant help feeling like this subconscious cultural pattern has helped the US become the power that it is and LATAM become the mess that it is. A difference in "will to power" or something.The meme in LATAM is being afraid of your mom hitting you with her sandal, In the US its more like your dad whipping you with his belt.It sounds schizo but its just something ive noticed and been thinking about.
>>64322132world status isn't dictated by alignment
>>64322132The US is NATO so NAFTA counts and we have historically cooperated on law enforcement basis.
>>64325571True since 1991, but it seems things are reverting back with BRICS.
>>64325571Yes it is Gen-Ztard. It’s just outdated now that the USSR is gone. It’s very telling that “1st world country” is synonymous with “nice country”
>>64323621Hello Serbian, have the cum supplies run low or something? Historically Mexico has always had a decently sized arms industry mostly for domestic production so they’re not reliant on a foreign country. It’s a point of pride for them. During the Second World War, the US even had a bunch of military equipment manufactured in Mexico (especially by Ford Mexico).
>>64325601I didn't know he was a Serb. Gross
>>64325571>world status isn't dictated by alignmentWhy don't you look up what the terms mean before saying something so dumb.>First world country = NATO/capitalist nations>Second world country = Eastern Bloc/communist nations>Third world country = Neutral/independant nations.
>>64325756the cold war is over grandpa
>>64325841>"Words don't have meanings anymore!"This truly is the education system of my country at work here. Rather than telling him to "look it up," I should have told him to prompt ChatGPT for the answer.
>>64325841have you been living under a rock? if anything we are in the sequel.
>>64325860>>"Words don't have meanings anymore!"and they change over time gramps, maybe relying on Chatgpt to cope with your dementia isn't the best idea
>>64325942>and they change over timeThe term "second world country" hasn't changed, you imbecile. Some ignorant fucks misuse the terms to refer to rich nations as first-world and poor nations as third-world. Guess what? Even by those metrics, Mexico is still a third-world country. Only a seething wetback beaner would take offense to the original term and insist we use the modern slang despite the country being third-rate anyway.
>>64325451I could possibly attest to your thoughts with a perspective that could overlap from a flip mom. Instead of getting smacked with sandal it would be a slipper, and while there could many many sources of potential causation, I wouldn’t doubt that sort of upbringing played a dominant role in as you said in the difference of “will to power.” I’d say it feels like a heavy overwhelming mental burden, like being held underwater without any notion to struggle to survive. I’d be terrified to think, to dream and endlessly wait on the sidelines of life without really knowing why.
>>64316502>Do well against the cartelsThis is like asking why the US Citizenry doesn't do well fighting against the Federal Government, Anon. The Cartels are effectively the government of Mexico. They're more organized than the fed there, the police or the military and essentially have the families and children of all three organizations as perpetual hostages because there's nowhere in the country they can't just ride over and burn down.That being the case, of course they're not effective against the cartels. Like fighting the Fed in America, you'd have to find people who either have so little to lose that they don't care that their lives will be over, or who are so fed up that they don't care. Things have to get pretty drastic for people to stop fearing death. Famously, it'll have to be the lack of bread of circuses, usually.
>>64320764Because "typical leftist" is a manipulative psychopath. Why do you think they do fuck-all about corporations doing whatever they want when actually good groups like Occupy Wall Street got subverted into nothingness?
>>64325970NTA but Mexico is arguably closer to first world than to whatever the fuck Russia is these days.
>>64326138>The Cartels are effectively the government of Mexico. They're more organized than the fed there, the police or the military and essentially have the families and children of all three organizations as perpetual hostages because there's nowhere in the country they can't just ride over and burn down.Do people actually belive this? The army massacres narcos all the time. There are just a bunch of new gangs that spring up to replace them. Like a retarded hydra and gay fuck politicians love taking their bribe money.
>>64316507Primero post mejor post
>>64320764they deluded themselve that organized crime existing is the fault of evil opressive government/ capitalism and not because some people simply are bastards. So if every gang, every cartel and every mafia is cause by some systemic injustice, the poor gangbangers and sicarios are ultimately also victims of the big devil that is capitalism.
>>64320764Because they pay them with loads of bribes.
>>64320764They think every criminals are like Robin Hood, taking money from the evil corporations to give back to the poors and being free from the tyrannical rule of the evil governmentThe same thought process made many people believe pirates were actually some kind of utopian, egalitarian freedom fighters and if they were ultraviolent, it was the fault of the evil royal navies that never left them in peace. POTC and the character of Jack Sparrow played into that too
>>64326483>africa>blackKek
>>64325451I tend to think of it like Lion prides. The males are still in charge and everything, but they don't want to do anything and leave all the work for the females. They hunt for food, raise cubs, etc., while the males dick around and fight each other. Females are the ones that keep the pride stable, while the males enjoy the fruits of their labor and occasionally defend it from external threats, primarily nomadic lions seeking to usurp their positions. The only males who don't profit from this are the aforementioned nomadic males who are seeking to either establish their own pride or take a position in another, or the juvenile Lions who will eventually leave and become nomads themselves. In this context, females function as the primary resource to which the males are ultimately beholden to and dependent on in order to not live like impoverished bachelors for their entire life. Thus it is with spics (and most third-world countries if we're being honest). The women make the food and raise the kids, while the men get drunk and kill each other. This is in contrast to places like America, where men are generally expected to do much, much more for their family. I think this can largely be attributed to cultural attitudes like the Protestant Work Ethic and a lack of a rigid system of personal honor (which leads to less violence, and therefore less dependence on women for stability). Men can and will exert much more influence in their own households and therefore be less dependent on women to do everything for them.
>>64326483>4.4% Unclassified transactionsIs this money spics living in the US send to their families?
