Do you have an astigmatism?What optics do you use, and what ones look good with your astigmatism?Picrel
>an astigmatism>the astigmatism>astigmatismsWhy do you do this?
>>64317126yeah, looks like top left of OP, but i don't notice it in normal usemy mepro mor pro isn't affected by it though, i guess its something about the way it works
>>64317137Maybe he's only got one wonky eye?You ever think about that?>No, you only think about yourself
>>64317126What optic does someone with autistigmatism use?
Fuck (all)ya mudda(s)
>>64317154irons
>>64317153Makes sense, like how I only have a racism against Mexicans.
>>64317126>Do you have an astigmatism?Fucker i have myopia, astigmatism, presbyopia, glaucoma and cataracts. I still use iron sights because thats the way Sam Colt intended.
>>64317166>thats the way Sam Colt intendedby the way it sounds, he told you that in person
>>64317161What race is Mexican? The Baja 500?
I do. I had a Holosun 407k red dot and it was a starburst to me. The Holosun 507k green 32 moa circle is perfect.
It's called an Eotech and its expensive as fuck
>>64317154you just use it.it doesnt matter if the dot isnt perfect you can still put a blurry mess over a target and shoot.
>>64317126I use prismatics. Have a Primary arms 3x and some discontinued bushnell lil p's.
>>64317186México has many races.
>>64317126I got PRK done and that's all she wrote. Best $4k I have ever spent. It's better than any optic or glasses.
>>64317199i had to return an exps3 because my astigmatism made it horrible to use. holo sights arent a panacea, prisms are.
Do I have astigmatism if car headlights/stoplights at night have these huge spikes of lights sticking out of their top and bottom? I can't see shit.
>>64317290Yes.
>>64317205I mean if you have no other option, yes, but this is what the thread is for.Look at the market, it's mostly 2 moa or 3 moa; clearly, people value empty space or a clear sight of the target.Dealing with astigmatism isn't ideal, and the market agrees.
>>64317290>>64317293It's possible your window could be pretty dirty also. Roll down your side window at a stoplight and see if you see it. I cannot fathom looking at a car light and seeing no aura or whatever, I think maybe normal people see it with super bright lights. I guess astigmatism users are just hyper sensitive to light they will see it at like stoplights and with red dots and stuff. Not sure about car lights, those fuckers are bright and somehow everyone gets overwhelmed by bright enough light and flashbangs and stuff work.
>>64317137You do know only one eye looks at the red dot right...Wouldn't fucking matter if your left eye has the worst astigmatism if your right is good.
>>64317293Darn.
>>64317300it really isnt a big deal you think its a big deal but it isnt.
>>64317154I have stage 9 epic ligma and the only dot sight that doesn't look like a prolapsed goetse anus that blocks my entire sight is a holographic sight. eotech is what I useInstead of one big dot, the sight is made up of a hundred small tiny dots which masks the astigmatism and forms the larger dot without smearing or having the star streaks. pic related is what I see with any other regular red dot over most of the glass.
>>64317199i have astigmatism and the eotech + magnifier combo did not work for me. >>64317264yes, prisms have perfectly clear reticles for me. i'll probably sell the eotech and get an acogfor now a pa slx 3x is working nicelyand their 300blk reticle is pretty sweet>>64317379it was ok without magnification but the dot looked like shit when i used a magnifier
Obvious Cyelee shill thread. But they do have the cleanest dots somehow. Even the non STIG RS Wolf EDG looks much better than any Holosun.
>>64317126Never had any optic I own affected by my astigmatism, because I have prescription eye pro. I'm blind as a fucking bat without glasses anyway, so I guess at least I don't have the problem some anons do where they don't need Rx lenses but still have JUST enough astigmatism to ruin red dots for them. At least I know I need corrective lenses all the time.
>>64317423>I'm blind as a fucking bat without glasses anyway,Same.>tfw 6 eyes at the range (eyeballs + glasses + eye pro over)
>>64317126I have a green-light Vortex Spitfire HD Mk 2 with an etched reticle. Reasonable magnification, the dot itself resolves well, and the reticle is barely fuzzed at all (there's slight chromatic aberration at the edges in daylight, which is probably the coke-bottle glasses I wear). By comparison I have a Sig Romeo 3 and it was effectively a 7-8 MoA dot om my rifle. It's been demoted to dumb blaster shit dutyIn general I've found that etched/holo > prism > reflected, and green > red. >>64317290I see 10-11 moons with my glasses off and text is unreadable more than six inches from my face. Shitsux.
>>64317126>Do you have an astigmatism?Yes, but glasses deal with it pretty well.>What optics do you use, and what ones look good with your astigmatism?Etched reticles work well for me for PRS. For regular shooting any old red dot because I'm not getting sub-moa with that anyway so a bit of starryness just doesn't matter.
>>64317822I feel this. I hope someday eye repair becomes good enough that I can go for it without worry, but since I don't have a job where glasses are the end of the world I'd rather where glasses then get any of the current procedures where if things go at all wrong you are gigafucked for the rest of your life and if your eyes get worse again you're also out of luck. I'd love to be able to see normally again but so it goes, on the other hand at least I have zero allergies to anything nor any other health issues so far.I suppose as a practical matter too for shooting specifically, it's not like I wouldn't be wearing "glasses" regardless, they wouldn't be prescription but both simple eyepro and prescription eyepro are still "something on your face" so it's not like for /k/ purposes it'd really change much beyond saving some money.
Yes, it sucks. I only use microprisms. Both the Primary Arms 1x and 3x specifically and they are fine.
>>64317154No
>>64317137>Why do you do this?Why the stigma? >>64317182LOL.>>64317154>What optic does someone with autistigmatism use?ACOG TA44 works for me. Still works even without my glasses on.
>>64317126>Do you have an astigmatism?yes>What optics do you use, and what ones look good with your astigmatism?trijicon tend to look best for me.
>>64317126>Do you have an astigmatism?yeah, but it's relevantly minor. slightly toned down top right.>What optics do you use, and what ones look good with your astigmatism?aimpoint pro and an ACOG. scopes work great and the red dots aren't that big of an issue.if you have a really bad astigmatism use a scope.
Remember when Cylee shill was crashing the fuck out hard in /hg/? Kek, I would never buy that busted ass chink dot from a company run by emotional man babies on the Internet.
>>64317126Yes, and none.
>>64317137Those are all correct, are you actually ESL or something?
>>64317126I have the 'tism so the first time I looked through an LPVO it blew my fucking mind, I can never go back to red dots now kek. I'll probably end up with a PA micro prism doe
>>64317126Looks like top right for me. I like LVPOs on my rifle, but I still use red dots on my ccw.
>>64318627Don’t forget he distributed discount codes so he can dox people
>>64318823>>64318627"ENVY"
>>64317126Astigmatism doesn't even exist in modern dayI have horrible astigmatism and it is fully corrected by my free basic medicare glasses Unless you live in Africa or something and are using traditional glass lenses it just isn't a problemIf you are worried about shooting without your glasses on then you probably have bigger issues such as actual being able to see your targetAstigmatism and poor vision usually go hand in hand
>>64317154Low power prism optics, or red dots with a triangular reticle like the old trijicons and meprolights. Triangular reticles work fine with astigmatism for some reason.
>>64318853Glasses break and can be hard to find at 3am when the nigs are kicking in your front door
>>64318840>chink shit on Turk shit >envy Projection
>>64318459>spend 900 dollars on an optic that does nothing better than a 300 dollar competitorif you even utter "glass clarity" i will report you.
>>64319066glass clarity
>>64317126Yeah, but my glasses correct it. I use a Holosun 503.
>>64317223And yet the whole country is named after and ruled by the Mexica. Interesting.
>>64317126I have the cylee wolf2 on my glawk clone. The ring around the dot helps, but I wear glasses during the day and it is a nightstand gun so I will probably just point shoot at two meters.
>>64319066but dat glass do be clear doe
>>64317126i do but i never had any problem with any optic like its noted as mild astigmatism in my medical record in the military (idf) i used the M5i cant name the other optics i checked out tho, but they were holosun pistol red dots
>>64317126>>64317154I use a glass etched LPVO & ACOG.The ACOG has the crosshair style reticle which has no astigmatism effects whatsoever when illuminated.pic related is my level of astigmatism combined
>>64317205Just LPVO there is no reason to use red dot.
>>64319066Glass clarity.
>>64317126What difference does it make? You don't focus on the dot anyway. Unless people are shooting wrong and focusing on it.Genuine question
>>64317290I have this, but it’s corneal scratches, not astigmatism.
>>64317126If I'm using a pistol it's for comfy carry and I don't want another brick sticking off the gun. If it's a rifle I want a magnified optic since I actually shoot father than 25 feet unlike 99% of ARfags
>>64323345>brickliterally wut
>>64319066Go get some grid paper and move your $300 optic around in front of it, now go to a store which has products you cant afford and do the same
>>64317126I have autism.
>>64323345I used to think the same and I don't run a dot on my carry piece, but then I heard about a case of a mugger in DC pulling a gun on someone and trying to hold them up at night from 40+ feet away. And while you can still try to run away from something like this and mass shooters aren't a common occurence, it's nice to be prepared against them anyway. You are extremely unlikely to ever use your carry gun anyway. New red dots are really low-profile.
>>64317126OEG. Plus they look cool.
>>64318639>or something?worsehe's retarded
>>64317400>this chinkshit looks better than chinkshitOk
>>64324067I'm not dumb enough to pay $350+ for a pistol red dot
>>64323320You have astigmatism.
>>64317126I had awful starburst with an ACOG but no problems whatsoever with a red/green holosun.
>>64317137I'm astigmatistic.
>>64324687the politically correct term is having astperger's syndrome
>>64324266>im not dumb enough to pay $350 for a pistol red dot>is dumb enough to buy chinkshitCurious. Have you considered not being poor as well as retarded?
>>64317126Get Corrective Vision Surgery.
>>64317137Unilateral is a thing.
>>64317154Prismatic. I have hear some anons claim holos are not as bad for them.
>>64325530>phone from China>literally every GPU you have from taiwan>most of the shit in your car from asia>appliances, tv, dishwasher, AC, etc all from asia or made with mostly asian shit>60%+ of ammo in the USA requires Chinese imports"The United States imported approximately 63% of its total antimony (metal and oxide) from China in 2023, with a significant portion of this material being used for defense purposes, including ammunition. "HUR HURRR HOW CAN YOU TRUST GLASS REFLECTING LIGHT FROM CHING CHONG! NO WAY CHINA CAN MAKE GLASS REFLECTING LIGHT AS GOOD AS USA USA USA!!!
>>64325621The legacy brands are unironically now copying the chinkshit since they've been losing so much market to them.It took Aimpoint and Trijicon both nearly a decade just to rip off the exact multiple reticle system from holosun and a green dot option.>nooo come back, we finally gave you the features you've been asking for>pls buy our optics again>:(lmao
>>64325621>>64325678Seething so hard you’re samefagging lmaoImagine shilling for chinkshit unironically, also we’re living in 2025 and not 2023. Get with the program, faggot
>>64325522Stigma?Stigma balls!
>>64318853>astigmatism doesnt even exist>i have astigmatismkek
>>64317154I have minor astigmatism and I'm still able to use an ACOG+RMR just fine. for me it's brightness dependent, the dot is actually perfectly crisp so long as I don't turn the brightness up too much on the RMR. I haven't had any problems with the ACOG illumination even when fucking around shining a flashlight onto the optic fiber, in such cases it will bloom but there's no starburst effect.
>>64327920that is astigmatism though and highly non-ideal, if you find yourself in a situation where dot brightness is significantly higher than ambient light, which varies all thruout the day, then it can hurt your confidence or precisiongood example is setting dot brightness in daytime and then at night you have to pull your gun and there are non-targets near targets, now you have a huge distracting halothere is a reason people strongly prefer ~2MOA reticles and astigmatism messes with that benefit of a clear precise aiming point and a lot of clear clean space to just seethis is also why the DRS from Holosun sucks, nobody needs all that shit for self defense, if you accidently shoot something you shouldn't your responsible, people just want a fucking fast precise dot and a clear view
>>64322559People have been trained by video games. They expect that clarity and perfect pixel from games to exist in reality or they think it's unusable.
>>64328512this is literally what you pay more money for....
>>64328519Are you going to act like the low-end red dots or hell top end from a decade ago are unusable?
>>64317290Could just be your eyelashes being faggots.I have one that grows down and if I rip it out it goes away.
>>64317126What if i have aNIGmatism, all my targets look black
>>64328475>this is also why the DRS from Holosun sucksIt's obviously not for self defense. You can use it with it without a magnifier for coyote hunting, hog hunting, passive night shooting for fun and night matches.
>>64328475>there is a reason people strongly prefer ~2MOA reticlesI prefer my 6.5MOA RM07 since at any distance that it's too big I'd want to use the ACOG instead, but yeah I can see the benefit if you only have a dotas for the dot brightness, yeah it kinda sucks but there's nothing I can really do about it other than change the brightness depending on the time of day. having said that, the brightness is fine within my house which is the only place I'd ever realistically have to use my AR anyway, so it's not actually a big deal in reality. I just have the ACOG because I think it's cool and it's fun to shoot with the ACOG at the range.
>>64317126yesnormal magnified optics work well for me. prism optics are excellent. red dots are usable, i've used them for many years and despite it being a starburst, i figure out where the center of the dot is by using the gun, and it works well enough. irons are also very good - big fan of AK style leaf sights/pistol sights. aperture sights are damn near unusable for me. not sure if that's astigmatism or myopia. it's funny, but the first time i ever aimed with a red dot in VR, i was a little confused because it was a crisp dot and not a starburst.i have options, not all good, but i do have some
>>64317126>imageI'm surprised nobody is really talking about this shit. So what is Cyelee doing to their red dots to make them look tighter for astiggers if it's not a holographic or prism optic?
>>64317126Working with aimpoint has taught me two things:If you see a star instead of a dot you have the brightness too high.A bigger dot appears as perfectly round much easier than a smaller one.
im left eye dominant, shoot right eye dominant but ever since red/green dots became a thing i shoot both eyes open now only using the dotit works fine; if i close my left eye and use my right sometimes it starbursts out
>>64317126If you have astimatism, but your vision is otherwise normal, you can get SMILE eye surgery to correct it.
>>64317126Yes I have a pretty severe astigmatism, I just use iron sights. For actual defense I use a technique I don't know if it's even a real technique, just something I noticed fucking around. If you hold your handgun directly between your eyes for me at least you can see two handguns next to each other if you're focusing on your target. For all realistic self defense ranges you can simply do this and line up your target between the two shadow images of your gun to easily hit the target. It's obviously not exactly as accurate as using the sights, but you can very easily hit reliable groupings enough to hit torso targets up to about 10-15 yards and it's much quicker to acquire the target than traditional sight shooting.
>>64331248They cared enough to figure out a good combination of emitters and lens coatings. There's probably nothing special they're doing that the other optics companies couldn't do.
>>64332398Well, I wish these other optic company shitters would GET ON IT then, because I want one. Preferably of higher quality than Cyelee. Please don't make me buy a Cyelee.
>>64317126>astigmatismi have a very slight patterning to the dot at very low brightness where instead of a solid dot its like a half dozen tiny dots in a slightly vertical stretch. Then again I don't notice it nearly as much on the CCO vs my Romeo 7
>>64333107I have the new Vortex Defender enclosed coming in the mail. Cyelee guy claims Vortex is sourcing their new enclosed optics from the same factory they use. I'll post a comparison against my Cyelee Wolf EDG (very clean dot) when it arrives.
Astigmatisms do not effect the vision of red dots, your optic is broken.
>>64333107it will never happen because they unironically think like this guy>>64334153but your also part of the problem>company literally outclasses every other company on the market>you decide in your "expert opinion" they are somehow inferior despite tons of droptests showing above avg performance and many reviews showing they have reliable productslol keep worshipping your overpriced fucked up blurry products and hoping the overlords who have no reason to compete because their custom base is full of loyal dogs like you who will gladly ovewpay for an inferior product then call a better and better priced competitor trash, will throw you a bonebark for me mutt and enjoy your trijicon and holosun smearoptics
>>64317126>Astigmatism>noguns gooks at Nexon got the artist with the worst astigmatism ever to draw a .jpg for a red dot in their MMO FPS gameCan't make this shit up, now I have astigmatism irl and now I'm a blind man with a gun
>>64334544Was not expecting allat poorfag seething but okay lmao
I hate STIG-RS.
>>64334657>I wish>I want >Pleasebeg some more
>>64334596Less noguns and more nodots. South Korea has mandatory military service, but optics weren't common issue outside of spec ops units until less than 10 years ago.>t. gook
>>64317126I only use dots on pistols, it doesn't seem to ruin my accuracy at all the dot is just a tad blurry. On rifles I'd rather go with a magnified optic but if I had to go without that I might as well get a 1x PA prism
>>64334672Poorfag
>>64334667More like NIG-RSAmirite
>>64317154Aimpoints from the 1980s
>>64317126All of the Sig optics look like top left to me. It’s been said already but:Eotech EXPS2 - the hologram looks like it has static on it, but the reticle is cleanPrimary Arms SLX- cleanest and cheapestHolosun 507 - cleanest pistol dot for my eyes.
>buy a vortex 3x prism because all the astigmatism bros swear by it on k>the reticle is microscopicother than that yeah its great. the glass is good. but the fucking reticle is just so tiny. I could get it tattooed on my pinky nail 3 times thats how small it is.aim small miss small I guess.
>>64336379The Vortex Spitfire is the same. 5x reticle is small, 3x is tiny.I don't understand why PA or Vortex can't make a prism with just a simple crosshair reticle. We shouldn't have to pay for ACOG/ELCAN/Steiner to get a decent reticle.
>>64317137it's always a hoot to see an angry noguns teenaged poster get mad by even gun accessories they dont own, let alone the whole part where they've never shot or even held a gun before you should start posting with a tripcode if you're going to be this upset over nothing
>>64339582>>64336379I like the tiny reticles, I live in the woods up North and shit gets dark early. You already have to strain to see targets against the background, I can tell you from experience a big intrusive reticle is a liability in poor light.
