It's called the Proteus and could probably be called Theseus too.They are using the old (1970) 20mm AA canon used on amx-30 and vab t20 (apparently used to escort amx Roland), the GIAT 53t2. The truck is a supply truck from the 80s: the Renault TRM 2000.Optics come from the Mistral AA system(not sure which version but probably the third), equipped with night and thermal vision called SANDRA with an image processing module called IBIS that the new AI defense agency of France (AMIAD) uses to detect drones and compute a firing solutions. The software part is still work in progress and claims 80% success (is it on one shot? Interception?). It's considered good enough for moving to the next step.The vehicle was developed in 4 month and is now being rushed into HQ, artillery and engineer company: units considered the most vulnerable to FPV threats.Thought on French jury-rigging another weapon?
>>64317740looks affordable and good enough, so seems good
>>64317740Nice, looks fit for purpose without unnecessary frills, hope they make lots of em.
>>64317740Good for Shaheeds but 20mm is overboreed for FPV drones.
>>64317740Never understood why French equipment gets so much shit. The Leclerc actually performed better than the Leopard in combat in the middle east. They make cheap shit that works while being "worse" on paper.
>>64317760This thing can probably shoot those down as well, but that roles will mostly be filled by Electronic Warfare, microwave and laser systems, as those tiny fpv drones are very weak to these things and there is no way to shield them from that without making them too heavy and ruining the range that makes them useful.
>>64317740I see your 20mm and raise to 40mm
20mm machine gun on the back of a four-wheel truck is likely to shake quite a bit.
>>64317740Why is there a gunner's seat? This thing needs to be fully automated and radar-guided. Tell Pierre to sit in the truck with the keys in the ignition for scooting after the shooting.
>>64317740Isn't this pretty much what most militaries need, especially for guarding objects like airfields from small drones?It's cheap and simple, thus perfect to deploy in large numbers without breaking the bank. They should deploy a few dozens in Ukraine to test to under field conditions.
>>64317781The sit likely not needed, since its a jury rigged system. But would like to see Soldiers place a dummy on it just for giggles.
>>64317740More like Chimera
>>64317762Leclerc is such a cute, petite girl. She probably smokes cigarettes and listens to Gainsbourg.
>>64317740what happened to using the VBMR-L Serval for anti-drone and shorad?
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>>64317892>Petit girl>57tA man of taste, I see.
>>64317897More expensive and takes longer to make. The Renault TRM 2000 is a cheap long in production easy to produce and readily commercially available platform. The vehicle pictured is also not the TRM2000. It's a Scania model that's just loosely related. The long front and weird format is designed for better mine protection, servicing, cooling and visibility like the weird South African Valkyrie trucks of the cold war
>>64317740Without shells it is going to be totally useless
>>64317775Ukraine will soon receive a bunch of those from Sweden. Can't wait to see how they fare
>>64317940Bidon failed, and that Tridon is also doomed to fail. And I read somewhere some disappointing forecasts about the upcoming Uberwaffe Tetradon.
>>64317931Man, it's gonna be funny when all of the NATO countries with their big developed economies turn their heavy industry towards total war. That's already a 25:1 ratio against Russia. Hell, even worse for Russia if the NATO aligned countries in Asia and Latin America join in.
>>64317740Its nice we're going back to 40's tech.
>>64317954>big developed economiesRather it's a big circlejerk and they just inflate their jeedeepees with seling each other inflated second hand real estate and banking services. Some slowly imploding economies with no shells and mounting current expenses not covered by profits, a typical recipe for corporate bankrupcy, it's a fact.
>>64317964The Bofors 40mm still holds up. The Koreans developed a snazzy new version with a few years back too. They planned to replace it with a new CTA 40mm design but it now just looks like they'll develop a version with a shortened casing with improved propellant instead.
>>64317740this i a new generation vlra not trm 2000
>>64317740R E T V R N
>>64317969Lmao, you're a bankrupt fucking gas station with zero prospects. Hell even if you exclude the US, in North America Canada has more resources and Mexico has more industry. You're a fucking failed state. Hope some of the munitions my grandpa worked on melt your home you ass fucking siberian tundra nigger.
Wouldn't the VBL be the cute french girl?
would it be reasonable to compare uk war to ww1/ww2 in terms of "oh shit, we need to research and field something fast to counter X" type of military development?
>>64317981Having no shells with nominal 25x jeedeepee is an observable (and no less laughable) fact. You will never be shellful. Cope, seethe, dilate, whatnot else.
>>64317979>>64317978I fucking love the VLRA. I saw one modified with a modern Cummins diesel I6 and an automatic transmission in rural Oregon while on a fishing trip with my gf. Probably the coolest military to civilian refit I've seen. Saw an ex Mexican army Unimog turned into a food truck once too.
>>64317989NATO is beating you without putting any effort into maximizing artillery munition manufacturing capability, and without even being directly involved in combat. Trump is likely going to put NATO into war economy mode this week and get middle position Asian and Latin partners to join in too. Better step up your game before the thermobaric drones melt your face off vatjeet.
>>64317986Perhaps, but I'm not sure if I'd say AI targeting software is the same game changer that radio fuzes were yet.
>>64317996Nato can't even shot down a handful of foam and plywood drones as they have no shells for that rather small tasj. they beg for a ceasefire but laughing Pootin just pees right into gaping Gayrapean elites' mouthes.
>>64318001>tasjTsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
>>64318003adjacent keys on the keyboard
>>64317740this is a technical
>>6431795425:1? Copelord curse probably means 40:1 is the actual case.
>>64318018I forgot about that faggot. Got the picture of him with the Brendan Fraser fuck my shit up hair?
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>>64317989NATO currently produces more shells than Russia
>>64317740It's actually exactly what is needed. Cheap drones demand cheap solutions. Why would you overengineer and built some high tech platform from scratch when all you need is basically a mobile flak cannon backed up by state of the art detection systems and radars? If anything everyone should be looking into producing older/proven vehicles domestically in these cases and just apply modern manufacturing methods and automation to make the production as cheap as possible without compromising the quality and robustness. Money should go into radars and such which make something like that Proteus into exactly the perfect tool for the job. Easy and fast to manufacture, cheap sans the high tech bits and robust.
>>64317762I'll shit on the French for being the world's worst procurement partner any day of the week, but the stuff they end up making tends to be rather good. This is even more impressive when you consider the kind of unhinged design philosophies the French engage with when designing a car.
>>64318018>russia only got 2 bodies while ukraine had to get 10,000. this means russia is killing more and winning :Dor it means the ukranians aren't going out into no mans land to recover bodies because that's suicide
>>64318120>unhinged design philosophies the French engage with when designing a car.>The springs are ceramic balls filled with flammable oil>The brake pedal was designed to function as an iron mushroom>It was explicitly designed to still operate if one wheel is blown up by a WW2 landmine>An entire corner of the body must be removed to change a tire>Front wheel drive in a time when rear drive was mainstream with the rear track being significantly narrower>The turn signals have to be manually shut off or they will slowly catch fire>Single spoke steering wheel designed to provide zero steering feedback>Still remembered as a great automotive masterpieceHONHONHONHON
>>6431776020mm is the smallest you would want to go for airbursting charges
>>64317740Sweden has as similar boondoggle that consists of a truck and a 40 mm naval turret. In both cases the production is in tiny volumes because no money and more importantly, no metalworking industry that can make barrels in large amounts.
>>64318163The suspension saved De Gaulle's life from an OAS ambush. He only ever rode in Citroëns after that.
>>64318102>NATO currently produces more shells than Russia..... and North Korea produces more shells than NATO and Russia combined. Its worth noting that out of the current and projected NATO production, America only produces a tiny fraction.
>>64318190>The suspension saved De Gaulle's life from an OAS ambush. He only ever rode in Citroëns after that.You can actually still drive them with one of the wheels blown off. In theory you actually can with two wheels missing as well, it'd just have to be one front and one back and you'd have to turn very slowly.
>>64317762French stuff is typically more expensive which is one reason it doesn't sell as much. Leclerc is much more expensive than Abrams or Leopard. I love French shit.
>>64317927>More expensive and takes longer to make.translation for non french people :>our gov't is in absolute debt, we can't afford shit like we expected and all our industry is fucking off overseas so we can't build anything in a resonable time frame
>>64317740Sounds exactly like the cheap mobile solution hat is needed. The hardware part should do the job for cheap, the real trick will be the software, but that's always updateable.
>>64318120>>64318163>>64318190if there is 1 thing that you objectively cannot criticize french cars for, it's the suspension. they are possibly the greatest suspension designers in history and the evidence for that is just everywhere - look at the car that held the moose test speed record for 26 years until it was beaten by a state of the art EV with 6x the horsepower, it was a 1994 citroen family sedan. look at the most revolutionary suspension designs put into production, almost all french. they had suspension designs that were so far ahead of their time that it took decades for even F1 cars to catch up
>>64317762Because French equipment IS shit.
>>64318255>French stuff is typically more expensive which is one reason it doesn't sell as much.t. retard that doesnt understand economies of scale
>>64318410>look at the car that held the moose test speed record for 26 years until it was beaten by a state of the art EV with 6x the horsepower, it was a 1994 citroen family sedan.lmao the fuck are you on about>look it up>it's truewhat the fuck, howhow did no manufacturer beat this record for 26 years? is modern automotive technology a fucking meme or what?
>>64317740A giant net surrounding a base that forces drones to gain altitude + 3 of these parked within the perimeter would secure literally anything from drones
>>64317969This is some prime pidorstanian cope, how's the gas prices pidorash?VAT status?
>>64317740>Thought on French jury-rigging another weapon?French "système D" is pretty good
>>64317740Reasonable enough for an interim design. I presume they're working on something more modern though.
>>64318727We do, it's called RAPIDFirehttps://turdef.com/article/knds-shows-rapidfire-40-mm-weapon-on-8x8-truckThat said, "nothing is more permanent than the temporary" as we say here
>>64318120>unhinged design philosophiesit's called not being a conformist cuck
>>64318163>An entire corner of the body must be removed to change a tireStill better than removing a tire to replace the battery or spark plugs like in (((some))) cars
>>64318557Do note that later Citroen models with similar suspension tech also never beat that record or even came anywhere close.Nobody's designing production cars for this specific test, and outstanding performance in it means compromising in other areas, be it reliability, cost, complexiy or even suspension performance in other tests.
>>64318832i get it anonbut i can't believe 26 years of "innovation" has produced zero improvement in this test. no, it has produced negative improvement. a deprovement.and to make it even more funny, a fucking shitbox has beaten supercars for 26 years. what the fuck is supercar supposed to be good at, if not taking corners fast? if it's no better than a french shitbox, what am i paying for then?
>>64317740>They are using the old (1970) 20mm AA canon used on amx-30 and vab t20 (apparently used to escort amx Roland), the GIAT 53t2.>The truck is a supply truck from the 80s: the Renault TRM 2000.So they are kit-bashing together old stuff they had lying around? Or are these vehicles new production?
>>64318434t. Retard that doesn't understand supply and demand
