>buys 1911>hey /k/ check out my new 1911>how much did you get for it >400>NO NO NO YOU NEED SPEND 3 GRAND MINIMUM OR ELSE IT JAM AND BE UNRELIABLE >well actually this one works perfectly fine especially with decent magazine>the only problems that arise are from poor quality magazines >NO NO NO ITS GOING EXPLODE IN YOUR FAC3111!!!! UNLESS YOU BUY THE SACRED 10K 1911Who keeps shilling this notion?
If ain't made in the US it ain't no count boy, sure trust your life to Philippine or Turkish 'craftsmanship' all you want. They make throwaway guns for criminals to do drivebys with.
You can get a fully US made 1911 with no cast/mim parts and a metal mainspring housing for under $1000Why cope?
>>64318961new a guy who bought him one of these foreign 1911's. Blew his whole hand off. Always buy American.John GrundleUSMC 1985-1986NRA Member since 1979NRAA Member since 1979
>>64318939My theory is that people overvalue things based on higher prices, they sink the money then realize they've been bamboozled and try to shame others into buying overpriced objects to consolidate their guilt.Your first response was even trying to shame you out of buying Caniks or the cheap 1911's by restating that they're Turkish, never mind that Turkey is a trusted member of NATO that has a long history of experience in arms manufacture. Such a discussion ends in cherry picking fire arms failures, of which the total is disproportionately related to American companies or through American made contracts with foreign companies like Sig.
>>64318965If you pay 900$ for a 1911 because it's American you're basically retarded.
>>64318974I also listed other important factors that you chose to completely ignore as if no one would notice, but OK.
>>64318970
Imported guns should get a 200% tax, the revenue of which goes into government subsidies for domestic firearm and ammunition manufacturing.
>>64318978I love that you posted a picture of a Thai keyboard, trying to shit on the Turks. It says everything I need to know about you.
>>64318977Why are they important?
>>64318965>heh i can get a handgun for under a 1000 dollars
>>64318982We should remove all taxes on firearms and remove any import restrictions and let the market drive down costs. Everyone will end up buying Norinco though when that happens.
>Tisas 1911 is barely over $300holy shit i knew they were cheap but not THAT cheap
>>64318987>why is quality goodI dunno anon. Maybe you should ask John Moses Browning why he didn't put cast pot metal into his 1911?
>>64318999im gonna buy one of those tisas 1911s one of these days. There are so many good reviews that im dying to try it out for myself.
>>64319005Tisas is also all forged parts
>>64319005i dont even think the cheap ones use cast metal
>>64318999It would be a crime not to get one. I was genuinely impressed with how much firearm you got for $300.They even have a titanium firing pin which essentially makes them drop safe.
My upbringing by my boomer dad makes me completely unable to buy anything but an American gun or maybe a quality European one.
>>64318939Post a single instance of this happening
It's not about how much you paid it's about the attitude and the destruction of domestic manufacturing.There are 100,000 US-made 1911s for sale just collecting dust and you want to import something new from a developing country?Just like WalMart and Amazon, you think you're saving money but once all the local places are put out of business then Walmart and Amazon can raise their prices and you have no choice but to buy from them.Considering the American Empire is in a pretty drastic downward spiral I would be wary of any foreign influence in our firearms or ammunition industry. I mean the Czechs just bought up most of our ammunition manufacturing and no one even cared.
>make up fake opinions to drive engagement in your threadwhy?
>>64319043I doubt he even has a 1911
>>64319016RIA 1911s are cast.
>>64319042>650 for a springfield>900 for a colt, probably>700 for a kimber (who would buy this)it's really pretty clear why the $300 turkish guns are so popular.
>>64319005You have not proved your case at all.
>>64319051welp, Tisas ones are typically cheaper anyway, i feel. I've never had experience with RIA.
>>64319062RIA was the shit pre 2020. They no longer matter now
>>64319059yeah, think of all the labubus I can buy with the money I save
>>64319080How out of touch can you possibly be? People are struggling financially right now, I can't blame anyone for saving $300-$500 on something they shoot once in a blue moon.
>>64319098If you trust your and your families' lives to a weapon you want it to be a good quality weapon. Even if it doesn't blow up when you shoot it, a jam or other malfunction could cost you your life. If it is just going to a range toy and you can't afford anything better then you shouldn't be shooting, save your money for more important things.
>>64318939I've shot over 1000 rounds through my TISAS, and have only cleaned her out with break cleaner once. 0 malfunctions so far, and it's my EDC.>>64318965>Buy American* Made!>*Steel sourced from Ching Chong-Ping Pong, China>That'll be $850 plus tax and FFL transfer fee. Would you like to make a donation to the NRA with your purchase?>>64319009Do it man. I remember they had a sale in my area when it was like $300. Leave it to the Turks to save the cheap 1911 market.>>64319080Here's a (You) boomer.
>>64318974The SR1911 and SW1911 are well regarded to this day, and you can find a used Dan Wesson for close to that if the seller's motivated enough.
>>64319098>People are struggling financially right nowBecause they spend money on stupid shit. > I can't blame anyone for saving $300-$500 on something they shoot once in a blue moon.If someone is truly financially struggling then why buy toys at all? A 1911 is a range toy for most people. If someone truly needs a practical CCW and they're short on funds there are much better alternatives than a 1911, especially when there's ammo cost to consider as well.
>>64319126>Assembled in USA>from globally sourced components>by Paco and Shaniqua while they were on their phones>at a factory that cut its entire QC department to zero so that the parent company could save on overhead>all while Noseberg-Shekelstein Financial installs another DEI CEO
>>64319136You can still have hobbies when you're poor.
>>64318939A certain generation of people who bought homes for a bushel of apples and a firm hand shake, and are willing to sell it to you for the soul of your first born son. This same generation is addled with lead head fueled dementia and Alzheimer's, whilst occupying the highest offices of the land.
>>64319143Nuh uh. You're supposed to work 80+ hours a week just to give half of paycheck to your gracious landlord who has only raised your rent 3 times this year. Think of all the shareholder value your labor creates!
Should have bought a single action army revolver.
>>64318965If I wanted to spend $1000 on a steel frame single stack .45, I'd get a German P220
Philippino 1911s are actually pretty good, you couldn't pay me to buy turkroach trash though. That'll get you killed.That M1911 is the perfect Gun to defend hot mommies from bad guys.
>>64318939>buy cheap receiver>refinish receiver>get high quality parts>have high quality 1911 for fraction of the pricethey might be kind of shit as a whole product but the influx of cheap but solid frames are nice. if you get bored of it or want to check out other parts you can sell the one you built as a 'CUSTOM EXPERT GUNSMITH 1911, TESTED' for a few grand to a fudd.
>muh flipino guns>muh domestic QC problems>muh turkshitthere are two tiers for pistol reliability:>revolvers>everything elseif you buy a 1911 at any price, it falls into the latter category. All automatic pistols are equally unreliable.
>>64319068i remember my dad had one but he mever shot it
>>64319568*never
For sub $1000 1911s I trust the jews.
>>64319859>696969Nice
I have three Rock Island 1911's, they each cost around 400Had to tune an extractor, replace a recoil spring twice (officers last 500-600rds) and toss all the poopy Act-Mags.Other than that its been pretty smooth sailing after several thousand rounds (collectively) through the three pistolsOne thing I think also helps is using 5W20 synthetic oil, it just hangs around and doesnt burn off or run like some thin gun oils
>>64319042You really think their thought process when they start getting sales is going to be "golly gee its time to give back to the community, let me reduce the prices". No of course not it'll be more along the lines of "people come to us for our quality which is why they're willing to pay out their ass and which is also why we'll be raising prices since we cant keep up with demand"
>>64319511pretty much this. I have a $200 RIA revolver that has went off 100% of the time I pulled the trigger. Winter is coming up which means hoodies, which means I get to walk around with a snub nose 357 in my hand and wait for jamal to ask me what time it is.
>>64321230Based armed prowler
>>64319859>>64320205seriously wtf
>>64318970Okay in fairness, Caniks really aren’t that much cheaper than actual walthers so in that case it really doesn’t make much sense unless it’s a specific model you want
>>64318965I've heard next to nothing about Bersa 1911s and I don't feel like being a guinea pig.
>>64319009I want to pick one up to throw a 460 Rowland barrel in…
>>64321230I love when they walk up to you and start to ask you for gibs and you just cut them off with an immediate "no" and they get all offended and say "I was just gonna axe what time it was!" Like niggers give a fuck about being on time for anything.
>>64318986It has a roach on it tho.
>>64319023i assumed they were garbo but damn they seem just as good as an american model
>>64318939Why not just be happy you got a new pistol? Go shoot it.
>>64318965because I don't trust american manufacturing.
>>64318939>seething cope post>stock imagePost your 1911 OP.
Talk me out of a 3k czan slovesson, /k/
>>64321465Which one are you trying to get? You should probably be able to find it for less than $3k.
>>64321420Fuck you nigger
>>64321504>no round in the chamberpussy
>>64321506Whatever punk
>>64319009I love this little nigga like you wouldn’t believe
>>64319080think of all the ammo you could buy to practice with
>>64319080fuck off shoenice
>>64319009I ordered one last night. I'll report back when it comes in. I'm going to send some very spicy 700ft lb 185gr .45 through it with a Wilson Combat 18.5lb recoil spring. We'll see how it handles that, lmao
>OP did the "Buy a cheap gun, shoot 100 rounds and declare it justasgood" thing
>>64318999 (Trips checked)>>64319009>>64319023>>64321399 (Dubs checked)I plan on buying a Tisas as my first 1911, heard only good things about them, they're absolutely /k/ approved. Grab one while they're still dirt cheap, it's only a matter of time before the word really gets out and the prices get jacked up.
>>64318939The reason the 1911 got its reputation was wartime pistols. The requirement was all manufactured parts had to be capable of being used mixed and matched to immediately assembled a 1911 with zero smithing or modifications. This led to the ol battle rattle 1911. That could fire 6000 rounds with zero malfunctions. This is also still the best version of the 1911. Its accurate enough to hit a man from pistol range and won't let you down. >>ive got a $5000 1911Thats like spending 100,000 on an old straight six Ford pickup. What made them good, what makes the 1911 good is its simplicity.
>>64318969>new a guyJeet
>>64323044At least they're not as crude as Tokarevs.
>>64319143Hobbies that are free. If not that is why you are poor.
>>64321230Fellow pocket snubby bro.
>>64319143Humans don't want poors in our hobbies
>wanting a 1911 that didn't fight in at least one world warWhy though?
>>64318961The Tisas 1911s are all forged with no mim and have extremely good machining all around. Forged slide, frame, and internals with a cold hammer forged barrel. I have a Springfield and a Colt that I cannot say the same for. I used to have a Dan Wesson Valor but I lost it in a hurricane flood. That was a $2,500 gun and the Tisas is $300 for the same materials and levels of craftsmanship according to pretty much everyone that has any experience with one. There's a guy on YouTube with 3k rounds through a Tisas 1911 and it has never malfed on him.>>64323925Useless post.
>>64319014>Sur dey are all fourged parts sur yes fey are sur buy our guns with apple pay cards sur yes.
>>64325007You have clearly never put a file to a machined part vs a cast part. Tisas does indeed use forged parts for pretty much everything except the grips screws, the mag button retainer screw, and the mag release itself. If that makes you pissy I really don't know what to tell you other than get over it.
>>64325032>Sur I am terling you sur if you vyy one of our guns for just 299 point 99 apple girft cards and take a firle to it you wirl see dat it is arl forged from de best sterl in de world yes, and you wirl see dat it issnt not made from carst steel sur
"The Engineer knows that he has achieved perfection, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to take away."I love these older gun designs. 1911, Browning Hi-power, Cz-75, even early Beretta M9/92... basicly guns that were designed before the plastic era. It's just metal and maybe wooden handle-plates. Other then that it's just sheer engineering goodness. Your mileage may vary, but I love my CZ-75 with it's crisp trigger, simple on-frame safety and even that nifty firing pin block safety for extra security (this is a divisive opinion I know, but I like it). No bullshit trigger safeties of the glocks (honestly I don't even like the handle safety of the older 1911 models, I think the trigger safety will be faded out like those eventually)There is just something satisfying in haveing a solid block of steel carved into hardy "treat me well and your grandchildren will be shooting me" borderline indestructable gun. I especially like the fact that 1911 is so... so... THIN! It's a THIN gun. Compare it to most modern guns and modern ones seem like giant bricks. 1911 is almost elegant in it's simplicity! (hot take: I think that this is why even AK-47 style guns appeal to people. It's just steel, wood and simple engineering. That does weird things to a man's mind. It's hard to not like it.)
>>64318939>Who keeps shilling this notion?People who have been duped into buying $3k 1911s.
>>64318970Bait should be somewhat believable.
>>64319042You aren't on a downward spiral if nobody else is on an upward spiral.
>>64318939Ironically it seems that the more you spend on a 1911 and the further it is from original specs, the more likely it is to jam or have other malfs. Every single 1911 horror story I've heard of has come from boutique or competition 1911s.
>>64325290People have a strange fascination with tight tolerance pistols. It's like a high class gentlemanly thing.
>>64325245That's the thing, isn't it?Much like wines, cars, clothes and such... guns have a "sweet spot" where the quality and price meet well, and above that it's just conspicuous consumption. You pay more, but the quality plateaus out, or even may go down despite the price increasing. You are paying for the prestige, not the actual product. It varies from country to country, but a 400-500 bucks gun WILL get you a decent shooter. Going double the price will NOT get you double the quality. Hell, sometimes you may even get lucky and find a good, used but less-shot gun for 300 bucks (although this is mega lucky).There are even people who specialize in these, and trade them like a house flipper. Find a good (but a bit rusty) gun from some inheritance sale, touch it up a bit and sell it for FAT profit. Gun merchants regularly visit police auctions for this type of guns. All in all... it's just "you just got to know these things" game. If you do, you can score major finds. If you don't you will end up spending 800-1000 bucks for a shitty shooter that can't hold a candle to an old but well-kept grampa's night-stand pistol that he bought in his youth.
>>64325314https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8cECtBdS8Q
>>64325158How is your life going that this is what you're sitting around typing out on a Sunday evening? Loser and fatherless behavior.
>>64325343>FUK YU MUDA FUKAH I FUCKA YUR MOM WHORE AND YOR SISTER SHE IS MY GURLFRIEND DONNOT REDEEM SARLol. Lmao. Lmfao, perhapps.
>>64318939I built a 1911 from a bare frame and a chink ebay parts kit. I learned more about 1911s than I bargained for. After finally getting it running right I thought I was hot shit having a 1911 for under 400 bucks. Now that tisass has a good enough 1911 for less, I feel pretty bad. This was before there were 300~ 1911s on the market. I mean that's cheap enough to hand out 1911s as groomsmen gifts
>>64325406>This was before there were 300~ 1911s on the market.a 300 dollar 1911 have existed for the past 2 decades. more if you count mostly compatible clones like llama
>>64325414Did they actually cycle? I built mine from a tactical machining blem frame in 2015 because the meme cheap 1911s were counter shilled as hilariously unreliable. Tisass has been the one resent dirt cheap 1911s thats been able to actually be a functioning firearm out of the box according to jewtueb
You're all sick people.I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all.I put a curse upon you all.Fuck yamudda
>>64325429ria have been fine the whole time ugly but functional
>>64319242Distill your Teutonic bullshit down to a fine crystalized rod, shove it up your urethra, and smash it with a hammer.
>>64325433Oh yeah I forgot about those. Its coming back to me now. The biggest turn off was that logo in the rear of the slide. Its still there too. Pricey too, like 499 at quick glance on thier website. Do they go to 300~ on sale? Otherwise that a hard pass
>>64325443ria sold 299 base models for at least a decade. price has gone up now and tisas replaced them as the cheapest option.they arent going on sale for 300 anymore.in 2015 there were in the 350 range.
>>64325455Doley noted
>>64318939Yeah, I'm just not going to buy Turkshit. I'm fine with the phillipenises' 1911s, but Turkshit is Turkshit. It's just barely a notch over Hueshit.
>>64325391>you when someone has a $300 pistol that performs better than your $4k custom sack of shit
>>64325579The dopamine hit for the paypiggie comes from opening his wallet, not shooting his guns.
>>64325455also iirc those Tisas have been $300ish dollars for several years
>>64323044And for the price of USGI surplus, you can get a semi-custom of better quality.
>>64325455Here in California Sportsman's Warehouse will have the RIA 1911 pistols on sale a few times each year.Usually it is the GI 45 model for 300-330 but they have also done the Nickel GI .38 and EFS Gray .45 for 500 beforeIts not much, but its something
>buy 1911>shitpost with it instead of using it>nobody cares about who made it or how much it cost or how many parts are fitted because its intent isnt even for it to work properly
Honestly my OGrigional norinco 1911 government is rock solid. But I would buy a Les Bear custom
>>64326187All 1911s are shitposts, anon. I can't think of a single real world use case in the last 70 years to carry one besides bear.
>>64318939Is tisas gtg?
>>64319118Function testing a firearm once a month (100 to 500 rounds each time) should be decent to find flaws in a few range trips.
>>64325579>>64325595>FUK YU SAR MY 299 NINETY NIRNEMADE FROM TEN THOUSAMD FORDED PAKISTANIZ ERS BERTER DAN YURS YOU WASTE MONEY ON THAT NOBODY BURT YU WANTS BRECAURSE YUR STOOPID UNRIKE ME WHO VURRIES FAVOR WITH DALI LAMMA BY BUYING 6,0000,0000 FORDED STEEL PISTOLHoly fuck
>>64318939This never happened, because every 1911 thread on /k/ is full of Tisas poorfags who will tell you that they're the best guns for the money, and that you shouldn't even bother with mid-tier production manufacturers like Colt or Springfield since turkshit is justasgud. If anyone is shilling $10k 1911s, it's tripfags AKA attention whores who you should just ignore on principle.
>>64327029Mad.
>>64323284missed the point completely award
>>64319080you could buy a second turkish 1911, that way its no issue if one malfunctions, and you dont need to waste time reloading
>>64326971Unless it's an officer then a few months of use will kill the recoil spring. You might be thinking of this guns great it's never failed in 700 rounds and then the recoil spring dies at 750. The fucking things don't make it past 1k before parts replacement.
>>64319126A thousand is a lot to you?
>>64318939Yes you gun not wirk
>>643284771000 rounds without a malfunction is pretty good for a handgun, i dont know what else to tell you
>>64328651A properly working gun should never have a malfunction. 1000 rounds is not a lot but is a good sign that the gun is good. I wish I had as much luck with my Tisas, my first one was the 9mm commander and it went 30 rounds before failing to extract since the extractor tension wasn’t set right. Second Tisas was the 10mm commander Yukon that failed to feed 3 times within 200 rounds, probably magazine related but usually on the last two rounds, third Tisas was the JSOC 1911 that would not feed JHP out of a 8 round mag, would feed from a 7 but I’m carrying a full-size 1911 because it has 8 rounds over my compact 7 or 6 rounders.
