Another mariner ? Another misfortune ...
>>64319883Obviously part of a insidious NATO plot where they cleverly do nothing and watch the Russian Navy spontaneously sink itself.
>>64319883>In the strait of GibraltarObviously Japanese/British torpedo boats are to blame.
>According to Russian Telegram channel VChk-OGPU, fuel is now building up in the hold, creating a risk of explosion. The channel, which is known to have contacts within Russian intelligence, told its 330,000 subscribers that crew members may be forced to pump the fuel directly into the sea.VChk-OGPU reported: “Novorossiysk, currently on combat duty in the Mediterranean Sea, is experiencing serious technical problems.Lmao
>>64319905Submarines are supposed to sink
>>64319883Submarine promoted to submarine comrade
>>64319883>Kilo>Nuclear-poweredJournalists.
>>64319883
>>64319883Russia + WaterE'ery tiem.
>>64319917we know who did this
>>64319883So it happened again?
>>64320079Once every seven years a reactor baby hatches...
>>64320078Nice of the culprit to take a photo with Boris
>>64319988>-poweredlearn to read
>>64319883>Kilo>nuclear???
>>64319883>build submarine>it sinksI fail to see problem comrade. All works as planned
>According to "VChK-OGPU", the submarine's fuel system has been damaged: fuel is flowing directly into the hold.>The crew is unable to fix the breakdown by their own efforts. Under such conditions, according to the source, sailors can only do one thing - to dump fuel overboard to avoid an explosion inside the compartment.Ah sweet, more Russian submarine disaster kino. At least this one isn't nuclear.
>>64320096It's not armed with nuclear missiles either. Theoretically it could carry nuclear Kalibr warheads but it seems unlikely.
>>64320132I was going to correct you but yeah the actual sub is a diesel sub, nothing nuclear about it unless it somehow has nuclear torpedos no one knows about.
>>64319958>Submarine is surfaced and stuck there>Russia is so incompetent it can't even get a sub to sink
>>64320143>Theoretically it could carry nuclear Kalibr warheadsthat's indeed the reasoning being given for the headlinerank sensationalism of course, but technically correct lol
>>64319883>Kilo-class>nuclearI fucking hate journalists like you wouldn't believe.
>>64320096"Nuclear submarine" means a submarine with nuclear propulsion. No one (save for drooling retards) uses the term to refer to submarines armed with nuclear weapons. Obvious deliberate sensationalism by some sniveling journalist.Is this Kilo being escorted by any surface combatants? Russians usually keep a rescue vessel within arms reach when they send these on transits. But I wouldn't be surprised if the playbook got thrown out with their current disastrous situation and/or fuel shortage.
>>64320157Are there any nuclear disarmament treaties in force that dictate which vessels can carry nuclear warheads in peacetime?Or were there such rules in the treaties that have been abandoned?
>>64320178>No one (save for drooling retards) uses the term to refer to submarines armed with nuclear weaponsactually, "nuclear submarine" used to refer to submarines armed with nuclear weapons, however they were powered, until the rise of the SSN>Obvious deliberate sensationalism by some sniveling journalistthis is true however>Russians usually keep a rescue vessel within arms reach when they send these on transitstheir submarines typically travel unaccompaniedit's their surface ships which tend to have some kind of tug or auxiliary around
>>64320146Watch they carried an experimental core for no good reason and now it's a nuclear emergency.
>>64320178>normal navy provides an armed escort for their subs>puccians provide a rescue ship in case of kursk 2.0>mfwdo vodka apes really?
How soon until we get more footage of mothers being sedated at press conferences for asking the tsar the wrong question about what happened?
>>64320183New START was the big nuke treaty, but Russia tore it up after their re-invasion went south. There might be something else, but I doubt it given Russia's "I'm taking my ball and going home" mentality.
>>64319883That's a great reference there, OP. I appreciated it.
Imagine being so incompetent that you FAIL at getting a Russian Navel vessel to sink...
>>64320198what the fuck happened with kursk anyways ? what that shit ever solved ?
>>64320242Missile blew up inside the sub. Missile was old and needed upkeep with a budget and know-how that didn't exist in post-collapse Russia. All weapons systems require upkeep, especially those with dodgy fuel.
>>64320256damn, sucks for the guys that were in it.
>>64319883Das Boot
looks like a tough year for the Russian Navy. Appears that Ukraine really just needs to stand back and 'let nature run it's course' in regards to naval warfare.https://united24media.com/latest-news/russian-submarine-and-corvette-sustain-major-damage-heres-what-we-know-12008
>>64320132Russian naval vessels and ecological damage go hand in hand
>another russian environmental disasterthe white sea, siberian sites for nuclear shit (one of the worst polluted places on earth), the aral sea and now this?nature can't catch a fucking breath with russia around
>>64320242It sank.
>>64320242The front fell of
>Eternal sailing in Neptune's sea :^(
>>64320372Is that sort of thing normal?
>>64320389Well there are a lot of subs going around the world all thetime, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don’t want peoplethinking that submarines aren’t safe
>>64320078SBS stands for>Special Boris Section math checks out.
>>64319989>>64320222Jej. That was my first thought as well.
Eternal Dive
>>64320584Aren't you forgetting someone?
>>64320655
>>64320655He's waiting at the bottom, with his vent and supply of porn.
>>64320202Don't worry. They'll have them sedated quicker this timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM2nvmFm4uo
>>64320414Was this submarine safe?
>>64320655This
>>64320793Of course not, it was Russian.
>>64320766Holy shit, how many of those vids are there?
>>64320338Uh. I swam in the white sea when I was in Russia. Should I be concerned?
>>64322237kek
>>64320793Well, I was thinking more about the other ones.
>>64322237https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPWTt_4Xl5Q>WE'VE BEEN HIT BY A DICTATOR!
>>64322256The other ones?
>>64322280Yeah, the ones the front doesn’t fall off.
>>64319917Perfidious Anglo-Nihonese torpedo boats.
>>64322142There's more than one?
>>64322331There's a whole fleet of nuclear submarines decaying in a bay on North Russia. They are reaching the point if being so dangerous that nothing can be done to clean them up, and it's just a case of waiting for one to go up.>>64322241I wouldn't worry about it.
>>64322344>>64322331Sorry, meant to reply to >>64322185
>>64319883That sub was only a decade old.Looks like subs built in russian federation won't last quite as long as their soviet anceestors did.
>>64322362I remember seeing another one where the jabbing was much more obvious, in her neck. Can't find it so I must have imagined it.
>>64322674I think I remember that one too, might have been from a different angle
>>64322237absolute fucking legend
>>64319883>she was only 12 you sick fucks!
>>64322237You ever think that, with enough time passing, Saddam Hussein will be remembered more for this meme than for all that stuff he did?
>>64319958>>64320149>Submarine is surfaced and stuck there> Is now of 10,000 meters above water surface.> Promoted to Hypersanic Wünderwäffles Air Command.pozziya win agains> t. Where Is Your God Nao?
>>64319958Gosh, that made me kekle, tanks anon
>>64320242just vodka niggers niggin'story as old as Tiem
Another strike on Sevastopol, in the meantime?
>>64322237I love this stupid meme
>>64322729The Vyshny Volochyok missile corvette had a bit of a run-in with a tanker, its not looking like it will buff out
>>64319883here's 5 minutes worth of mspaint to celebrate
>>64320584Technically, “eternal patrol” is a thing for US subs as well.Huh, wonder if that’s where the zigzogs stole it from.
>>64322237>This illustrates the danger an improperly secured Saddam Hussein poses to the viability of your submarine.
>>64320146>somehow has nuclear torpedos no one knowsPossibly. Crew probably among the list of people not knowing LMAO.
>>64319883UK/Spain/Morocco should tell them to fuck off and die somewhere else before they kill them themselves
>>64320276Fuck themWhat's even funnier is the west (UK and Norway IIRC) knew it had happened and offered to help, and the gopniks just refused to admit anything bad had happenedSo their own government killed them out of face culture lmao
>>64323999Naval personnel have a different code. You'd definitely offer aid even during war if possible.
>>64319883https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxhQMHM5XEs
>>64324006Yeah they did offer help, Russia said no and that nothing is wrongThen all their men died lmao
I remember we were all very worried for the crew because at the time we thought we might still have a chance at making it work with Russia.But then Russia was like " n-no! Nothing is of wrong with sub, stop asking and offering help! We hate you!" And we were like "you do?"
>>64320256It was a peroxide torpedo, not a missile, but yeah that's about right.
>>64319905>>64319958
Don't forget when the vatniks finally caved in they refused to tell the Western team how to open the escape hatch because "State Secret"
>>64323999>the west (UK and Norway IIRC) knew it had happenediirc the bongs had a sub monitoring the exercise, as one doesI can only imagine the black humour of the seriousness of knowing what they were listening to juxtaposed with the report back to London:>hi uh mum? I swear I didn't do it, but you might want to tell the Russians one of their subs just exploded>it sounds like they may have shot themselves with a live torpedo>no I swear ma, it weren't me! honest!
They didn't NEED that submarine. there never was a submarine. This is hohol disinformation, but if it isn't disinformation, then it was all according to plan. Those dead fictional sailors are missing in action. This will hasten Kiev's fall. Poland did this.
>russian submarine has a mechanical issue not far from nato borders>in the middle of a proxy war>that has been going decisively badmmmh i wonder if....
>>64324111Read the last message from the Falkland Islands transmitted to UK when Argentina invaded.>LONDON: What are all these rumours? PORT STANLEY: We have lots of new friends>LONDON: What about invasion rumours? STANLEY: Those are the friends I was meaning>LONDON: They've landed? PORT STANLEY: Absolutely>LONDON: Are you open for traffic? PORT STANLEY: No orders on that yet. One must obey orders>LONDON: Whose orders? PORT STANLEY: The new governor>LONDON: Argentina?PORT STANLEY: Yes>LONDON: Are the Argentinians in control? PORT STANLEY: Yes. You can't argue with thousands of troops plus enormous navy support when you are only 1,800 strong. Stand by please.The line then went dead.
>>64324463>RAMIUS, YOU SON OF A BITCH
>>64324197This is a land war, not a submarine war!
>>64324111The USN knew within minutes that the Titan submersible had imploded, but didn't want to tell anyone.
>>64324540SOSUS is deep sea magic to vatniks
>>64324540everyone on the recovery vessel knew as well, watch the videos, they all heard a very distinct loud bang and you can hear it in the videos as wellall the debating if they are live were just people being in denial, it was obvious right away it's over
>>64320183No. The closest thing is that some countries have declared themselves nuclear-weapon-free zones and won't allow warships carrying them to enter their territorial waters.
>>64325521You reminded me of New Zealand refusing to allow a USN ship to visit because of that faggotry.
>>64324510I've heard nu.erois tines that the British tendency to doqnplay serious situations has lead to numerous instances of men being killed because nonBrits couldn't pick up on the implied seriousness of the situation.
>>64325106>all the debating if they are live were just people being in denial, it was obvious right away it's overYep, or trying to put a hold on things while they tried to figure out how to spin it. But yeah zero chance. Though I guess it was perfectly painless, someone did the math and at that depth the implosion would actually have gone supersonic in speed almost instantly, faster then nerve impulses travel. So they literally never even knew, one second they were being silly retards the next second they were not.
>>64325523That's because America refuses to admit which ships carry nuclear weapons, so the Kiwis took the safe option and just told the whole USN to fuck off.
>>64324540So did everyone with a brain
>>64320242>what the fuck happened with kursk anyways ? Same as always: #justrussiathings>The government report confirmed that Kursk had been sunk by a torpedo explosion caused when high-test peroxide (HTP), a form of highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide, leaked from cracks in the torpedo's casing.>The dummy torpedo was 10 years old and some of its parts had exceeded their service lives. Several sources said that one of the practice torpedoes had been dropped during transport, possibly leading to a crack in the casing, but that the weapon was put aboard the submarine anyway.>Personnel who had loaded the practice torpedoes the day before the exercise noticed the rubber seals were leaking fuel and notified junior officers of the issue, who took no action because of the exercise's importance to the Russian Navy. Though the leaks on the dummy torpedoes had been detected, the rubber seals were not inspected before the exercise.>Maintenance records revealed that the 65-76 "Kit" practice torpedo carried by Kursk came from a batch of 10 manufactured in 1990, six of which were rejected due to faulty welding. An investigation revealed that because the torpedoes were not intended to carry warheads, the welds had not been inspected as carefully as welds on torpedoes carrying warheads. When salvage crews recovered the remains of the torpedo and the launch tube, analyses found both bore signs of distortion and heat damage consistent with an explosion near the middle of the torpedo, very close to an essential welded joint.
>>64325789And a Russian disaster just wouldn't be complete without someone knowingly disabling at least one safety feature>Kursk was equipped with an emergency rescue buoy on top of compartment seven designed to automatically deploy upon detecting a variety of emergency conditions, including fire or a rapid pressure change. It was intended to float to the surface and send a signal, helping rescuers locate the stricken vessel. Some reports claimed the buoy, after repeatedly malfunctioning, had been welded in place. These reports were confirmed after investigators learned Kursk had been deployed to the Mediterranean during the summer of 1999 to monitor the U.S. fleet responding to the Kosovo War. Russian Navy officers, fearing that the buoy might accidentally deploy and reveal the submarine's position to the U.S. fleet, had ordered the buoy be intentionally disabled. The rescue buoy remained inoperative during the disaster.
>>64324006Law of the Sea, that shit even predates organised navies as a concept
>>64325705They got wise after a highlander unit was lost in Korea and now have special protocols for reporting stuff to foreigners
>>64325743>When your ally doesn't let your navy pay a friendly visit but your greatest adversary does.Ah, the 80s were a strange time.
>>64325834Imagine being one of the US sailors who reupped aboard the Moskva (nee-Slava)
>>64324510sounds to me like the transmitter was speaking with a gun pointed at him>>64325834the back three of the five eyes have always been more hindrance than help, imhot. auscunt
Is war going to start from a nuclear oopsie?
>>64326059Kilos are diesel-electric, no reactor meltdown for you.
>>64325789>>Maintenance records revealed that the 65-76 "Kit" practice torpedo carried by Kursk came from a batch of 10 manufactured in 1990, six of which were rejected due to faulty welding.
>>64325789>"drop" a 5 ton torpedo filled with HTP>load it anyways>not my problem
I just realized now you're quoting darkest dungeon. You fucking nerd.
>>64325806>>64324006That big blue cunt is trying to kill us all. Every man you pull out of her mouth is a victory.
>>64320242it sunk
>>64326179the torpedoes were reported to be in terrible condition and prone to leaking even before that incident mind you
>all this Kursk talkRemember kids, Pyotr Velikiy shot first.
>>64323999>the west (UK and Norway IIRC) knew it had happened>their faces when
>>64325705>>64325813The Glorious Gloucestershire reported to the Americans that 'things were a bit sticky'. Which American's translated as 'It's not too bad'. When in fact it was absolutely fucked.
>>64327680They still had their tea rations?
>>64326059No, it's gonna end from a nuclear oopsie.
>>64319883russia + water = disaster
>>64323999>>64325806I am always in awe about the rescue buoys the Royal Navy had during WW2 with survival rations, flare guns, and instructions in multiple languages to help whoever ended up need it. That being said, I've sailed a little recreationally and I kind of understand just how dangerous the sea is and if you were to be lost at sea your options are divine intervention or luck. And it's usually luck
>>64330801>if you were to be lost at sea your options are divine intervention or die. And it's usually dieft4u
>>64330819I mean, yah. Fell off the boat a number of times, capsized too, always near shore so it's not that dangerous. But I have a fear and respect for the deep sea
>>64330801wrong side, anonthat was the Kriegsmarine
>>64330801Rettungsboje, also Udet-Boje named after ol ErnstI suspect they were only really feasible in the (RELATIVELY) calmer English Channel, and probably not in the Atlantic. (and probably pointless in the North Sea with an average survival time of 10 minutes)interestingly the subject of some controversy. the Germans used to send rescue seaplanes to patrol and rescue stranded aircrew from these buoys. most of them were Luftwaffe, of course, hardly any RAF pilots would be in the drink, so there was shall we say a certain vested interest there. the RAF took to shooting down these seaplanes, because the pilots would usually return to combat and during the BOB killing bombers and pilots was the given priority under Dowding and Park.the Germans protested that this is a warcrime because they were killing rescue craft on a humanitarian mission.the British pointed out that these seaplanes were not marked with the Red Cross, and they were taking British airmen prisoner and therefore not lawfully protected as medics.
>>64330874>>64330901My mistake then I thought both sides did that.
>>64320202>>64320766>>64322185I mean the woman was being an asshole...not right do it, instead just carry them out, but I would have wanted her to stop yelling too.
>>64329772>+ waterAir, fire, water and love are just as disastrous when combined with Russia.
>>64330923>My mistake then I thought both sides did that.Both did, just the UK did it after seeing the German ones. Their shelters differed in that they were made on old boat hulls, meaning they could be more easily towed.
>>64330874>>64330923Bongs had the Air-Sea Rescue Float which was basically a ship, could take more people, was easier to climb into and generally better (the German one was incredibly difficult to get into after being in the sea and the method to be rescued was time consuming and difficult if you've, well, been in the sea). However the Bongs abandoned the idea because RAF flotplane rescue runs were quicker and more efficient. So they only built a few.
>>64331027>>64331053the British ones were also built years afterward, when the RAF had achieved aerial superiority over the Channel
>>64330934Fuck off vatnik shill
>>64325705>the British tendency to doqnplay serious situationsIt seems to be a long-running habit.A great example is from the correspondence of Lt. Hugh Montgomery (12th Regiment of Foot) concerning the 1759 Battle of Minden:>Now began the most disagreeable march that I ever had in my lifeHe then goes on to explain how the 12th Foot (as part of a division with eight other batallions) advanced a quarter mile through the range of an 18 pound artillery battery, how he almost got sent flying when a cannonball struck the three men directly to his right and drove their mangled corpses-to-be into him, how his batallion got raked by enfilade hits and entered grapeshot range of the guns, all directly followed by the division fending off a series of charges by pretty much the entire French cavalry force (63 squadrons totalling roughly 7,000 horses), capped off with a number of infantry engagements.>We actually fought that day not more than 480 private and 27 officers, of the first 302 were killed and wounded, and of the latter 18.In other words, a casualty rate of two thirds for enlisted and officers alike, totalling roughly one eighth of the entire Prussian coalition's casualties in the battle (matched only by the 20th Foot, the two being on the rightmost side of the division and thus getting the worst of the artillery fire).
>>64331097Ever heard of a game called helicopter?
>>64322237Motherfucker