Drones have changed warfare forever. No matter how strong, fast, or skilled you are, you might still lose to this. Think of all the roided out VDV muscle heads gibbed by drones operated by Ukrainian supermodels. The future is fucking grim.
They said the same about crossbows and muskets. Life goes on.
Uhh get this.>Massive electronic interference>massive armored assault on flat ground that isnt premined>massive air superiority advantage with anti rad missiles wiping out gbad>massive missile spam taking out airfields, c4i>3 points of assault into redland
>>64321960Firearms did change warfare and history forever. And many warrior cultures with strong and skilled fighters were annihilated as a result.
>>64321954>mines have changed warfare forever. No matter how strong, fast, or skilled you are, you might still lose to this. Think of all the roided out hun muscle heads gibbed by mines laid by chimney sweeps. The future is fucking grim.
Opposable thumbs have ruined territorial warfare forever. No matter how many apes your tribe has, the enemy can use sharpened sticks to impale us all. The future is fucking grim.
>>64321979All the empires of the previous century collapsed as a result of the world wars.
>>64321987What profound insight. Have you also figured out what sound a cow makes or the color of the sky?
Electronic warfare's importance has been embraced by every major military.Unfortunately russia has not been able to demonstrate competence, so instead their current strategy is "ukraine will run out of drones before monke runs out of russians".Of note, their reliance on outside resources (russians are too dumb to make chips) resulted in them running out shortly after shit hit the fan. Having a self sufficient semiconductor industry is now the most important goal for every nation. He who controls the chips, controls the universe.
>>64321960This is such a reddit take, crossbows were nowhere near as oppressive as drones nor revolutionary at all and muskets did in fact change warfare forever for the worst so that example doesnt help your argument
>>64321990The sky doesnt have a color. If you think it doesn youre fucking stupid
>>64321992>Muh EW *gets fiber optic cable droned*Have you ever considered that it may not be as simple as you think it is? remember Ukraine is also getting droned and they have western hardware Btw no country in the west produces drones without chinese parts, what the hell are you on about?
>>64321970If they can't adapt then they weren't going to make it anyways.
>>64322036Oh yeah I'm real scared of a shitty quadcopter that leaves behind a fucking cable back to the guy driving the thing. Yeah I have no idea how anyone could manage to fight against that
>>64322061Any bright ideas mr couch field marshal? because those 'shitty quadcopters' have taken out leos, challengers and abrams and you imply you can follow the cable back like a fucking bread crumb trail which is not only impractical but also suicidal
>>64322088Brown people with RPG-7s have achieved as much and are worth even less. The thing holding the the front lines stagnant in Ukraine isn't a handful of expensive and limited optically guided drones, it's the thousands of $500 temu drones that would all be instantly soft killed by a first world military.
>>64321954I would accept being killed by a woman that looks like that.
>>64322124>woman
>>64322124Only if she steps on me as the light fades from my eyes
>>64321970>And many warrior cultures with strong and skilled fighters were annihilated as a result.good
>>64322119If brown people with RPG-7s have done it imagine what they could do if they could magically fly those RPG-7 warheads 8 to 10 kms away and guide them with their eyes so they dont miss or hit a heavily armored section >The thing holding the the front lines stagnant in Ukraine isn't a handful of expensive and limited optically guided drones, it's the thousands of $500 temu drones that would all be instantly soft killed by a first world military.But thats the thing, you can use the optically guided drones to hit EW which is extremely expensive and cant hide because you know they have to emit a strong signal and then the temu drones can work without impediment > instantly soft killed by a first world military.Oh yeah? name one first world military that is not the USA that had as much hardware and manpower as the entire combined arsenal Ukraine had access to during the entire length of the warI'm going to save you some time and tell you there is no such military, France and the UK would had had catastrophic material deficits in mere months
>>64322124That’s a man
>>64321954>tfw no ukrainian fpv drone pilot gf
>>64321954>the neat haircut>the duck lips>looks 16You can tell she's never seen combat. What a retarded photo op. I get why they do it, but it's still retarded. The real female (and male) combatants look like prematurely aged, sleep deprived, disheveled shit. Can't show that in a Christian manga.
>>64321954God's I would. With no protection. Many times.
>>64321954You act like this is some new development when the US has been smoking ragheads with drones for over two decades.
>>64322485But now they're being used en mass.
>>64321954Jesus Christ, did that mutant crawl out of the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone? They should have her doing operator-shit in the sewers of moscow, put her cloaking powers to good use.
>>64322485The kind of drones dying like flies against the slightest resistance (SAMs)? Those need an airforce or navy airforce (aircraft carriers) to be minimally useful.
>>64322164that's even better
>>64321954>it's another pudgy brown's coping about chad fantasyIf you actually read the Ukrainian reports you'd know drone teams stagger around rucking 80+ pounds of dry weight in small dismounted teams. Limpwrists and pencilnecks need not apply
>>64321954>Drones have changed warfare forever. No matter how strong, fast, or skilled you are, you might still lose to this. Think of all the roided out VDV muscle heads gibbed by drones operated by Ukrainian supermodels. The future is fucking grim.Keep your retarded opinions to yourself
>>64321954Why the fuck does everyone have to say the same maximalist bullshit about drones. Yes, they’re pretty effective in many scenarios, no they have not fundamentally changed maneuver warfare
>>64323630Unironically? Its an IQ issue. Its the equivalent of someone in 1989 saying "the Iran-Iraq war is the future of all war".
>>64323642>electrified swamps are the future of warfare, haven’t you seen Iran??
>>64323630Because it's the newest cope for weak and shitty militaries. Basically shitholes are seeing quadcopters with grenades attached to them as the next dreadnought so in their minds nothing else matters besides how many DGIs you have in inventory
>>64323630It's a motte/bailey fallacy. They see manually piloted analog hobbyist FPVs, want you to think DARPA 300-drone AI swarms, and retreat to fiber optic FPVs when humiliated.There's also an element of everyman cope. Larpers used to project themselves onto light infantry/guerillas. GWOT ruined that for them, so they have to pivot to a new fantasy and FPV drones seem perfect for it.
>>64322148>But thats the thing, you can use the optically guided drones to hit EW which is extremely expensiveBut that's the thing, drones only stagnate the lines when fighting against poor as fuck thirdies that can't afford enough EW.
>>64321954>No matter how strong, fast, or skilled you are, you might still lose to this.Anon this has been true since accurate fire arms have been a thing.
>>64321987>people die when they are killed
>>64323772Since cholera and stones thrown off castle walls, even.
>>64322036Fiber optic drones are far more limited and expensive than an equivalent non-fiber optic drone.
>>64322148>But thats the thing, you can use the optically guided drones to hit EWOptically guided drones have limited range, EW is less limited.
>No matter how strong, fast, or skilled you are, you might still lose to thisSpeak for yourself bro, if I was over in Ukraine I'd have solo'd russia in a week, a month topsMemes aside individual skill has never meant much in war. 15 years ago random chance would kill you with airstrikes. Before that, it'd use artillery, or snipers, or hell just stray bullets, can't dodge that. Thousands of years ago it'd be disease or volleys of high speed arrows, hell even sling rocks. War has never been fair or about skill you just play too many video games.
>>64321954I know this girl.Her nickname is "Junge"
>>64322148The issue with fiber optics is that you can't swarm them. It's a solid advance over a line of sight ATGM, but it's not a robot revolution: they're all manually piloted one at a time.Therefore they're vulnerable to kinetic defenses. Jammers stop the waves of cheap drones, and AI-aimed point defense GPMGs/autocannons stop the fiber optics.
>>64323721That is funny. Instead of learning from GWOT and actually training to some sort of light infantry standard with all the modern/GWOT considerations in mind, they gave up and jumped to the next cope
>>64323815Thanks for sharing source.
>>64323815>digusting botulinum-filled nigger lips>nose piercing>never fired a gun or served in any way other than psyopsno thanks nigga, you can throw this war whore in the trash
>>64323778[citation needed]
>>64323819Shahed-136 are swarm type drones with a pre-programmed flight path to their targets, like cruise missiles.They are not as vulnerable to electronic warfare as remotely piloted suicide FPVs or quadcopters dropping ordinance, because they don't require operator guidance.If someone miniaturises the shaheds, they could combine swarming with fibre optic FPVs.
the vdv were killed by arty and normal war stuff
>>64321954>No matter how strong, fast, or skilled you are, you might still lose to thisTo be fair, there's been a measure of this since the first crossbow. What did they say in KCD? That you could be the greatest swordsman in the world and still die to a crossbow ten paces from your front door?>>64322002The Pope banned crossbows against other Christians for a good reason, anon.
>>64321961Duk duk heavily armoured attac helis are still the dominant force on the battlefield
>>64323205Drones are cheap af compared so SAMs and most other anti-aircraft systems. The real killer feature of drones is how imbalanced the defense against them is.If your enemy hast to spend 500k to take out your 20k ickle drone that's a massive ROI.
>>64324212Shahed-136 is not a drone, it's a really shitty cruise missile for desperately poor third-world countries. They're used in swarms because their rudimentary guidance is vulnerable to EW and their size and slow speed makes them vulnerable to being shot down even by small arms fire.
>>64324327A Reaper is +30M each.
>>64324158I’ll retrieve her from the trash, clean her up and marry her.
>>64324158how's life in belgorod?
>>64321984This literally happened though.
>>64321954>No matter how strong, fast, or skilled you are, you might still lose to thisthis still applies to literally all ordinance, you're just retarded
>>64324212>swarm type droneShaheds and their derivatives are not capable of swarming, I dont think we've seen a single drone swarm in the entire Ukraine war unless you count Brimstone
>>64321954Yes
>>64324382If multiple shaheds can be built for the cost of one cruise missile then they aren't shitty and fulfill their purpose.
