>Russians in Pokrovsk encircled>almost 40% of Russia’s oil production is offlineWhat weapons made this possible?
>>64337136
it was drones, fpv, long range ones, fiber optic ones
>>64337136Human brain best weapon
>>64337136>What weapons made this possible?Modern ones.
>>64337136>What weapons made this possible?Bayonets. Secret British super military advisors finally completed training the Ukrainians to affix bayonets and charge like brave lads, russian forces were completely unmanned, in absolute shambles.
>>64337169>khersontee hee!
>>64337169similar ones to those that made this possible
>>64337169>second army of world>Kyiv in 3 days>soon, will
>>64337198definitely not these guys lol
>>64337198Considering they started with more than that, it is a loss. And it only cost them their economy, to the point that russia is looking at importing fuel now.
>>64337136Chechens.The russian subanimal would (and does) shoot itself before challenging it's masters. They sit and wait for death in encirclement rather than retreating to lure Ukrainians into counterattacks, because the alternative requires confronting ackmutt BVLLS and interrupting their tiktok filming sessions.
Do Russians think controlling 20% of a second-world country after three years of warfare is winning?
nothing ever happens
>>64337233It's self-hypnosis.To calm your own inadequacy.
>>64337198Yeah, Russia is winning, and what a pending victory. After 3 years of fighting they've almost regained 20% of what they lost in a single month at the start of the war. At this rate, Russia will still be winning in 2037, where it will have reset its gains to March of '22 and Ukraine will be the featureless moonscape grave to millions of Russians. I wonder which oblasts Putin will be able to sell to the Chinese to fund this stunning victory.
>>64337252>saaarb cuck comes out to seetheEvery single time I see you upset, I kniw the world has become a better place.
>>64337233They don't focus on the numbers. Is Russia technically gaining ground? Yes, they don't know the number, but it's positive, so great victory! Has Russia lost more ground than it's gained since the first year of the invasion? Yes, but that involves actually comparing numbers, so it's vile globohomo trickery. All they need to know is number go up, not what that number is relative to. Casualties are not reported, so number no go up, meaning another great victory!
Oh look, the cum /chug/ging cuckold has got off his bottle and waddled over to shit up /k/ again.
>>64337252>Ukraine has shrunk by another 3,500 km2 since the beginning of the year.>3500 km2>front line is around 750km long>russia has managed to advance an average of <5km in 9 months>look how strong russia is guizok
>>64337252so Kyiv in two weeks right?
Things must be horrific for puccians if the serbshit pedophile has to ban evade to spam.
>>64337314>mad as hell
>>64337215>to the point that russia is looking at importing fuel now.Uh oh, that sounds bad for the budget. As an oligarch do you think I should be worried? Do you think mother Russia needs her money back?
>>64337327How do you feel about tall buildings? The answer is pretty dependent on that.
>>64337277How long until it starts deleting its posts?
>>64337198>so-called Ukrainehi strelkov
>>64337136I have it on good authority that several Boris Johnsons were deployed to ukraine in the last few weeks
>>64337215>to the point that russia is looking at importing fuel now.wait seriously? source? this is fucking huge if true
>>64337136How in the fuck is that rabbit shit still not over? Wasn't it cut a month ago already?
>>64337351https://xcancel.com/delfoo/status/1972962703993176465#mUnfortunately the source is a tweet that has sources below that I can't be bothered to parse through during my morning shit
>>64337357The Golden Horde's funneling men into the quagmire to try and relieve the surrounded troops.
>>64337265Back to leftypol
>>64337330A fall from the first floor can kill you if you happen to fall out the same window a few times in a row.
>>64337265Oh look a thirdie ban evading https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64332511/#64332616
>>64337215This pic is in a dire need of an update, with even more retarded zigger assaults since then. Heck, we just got fancy horses just yesterday.
>>64337265Get fucked filthy BBC spammer
>>64337136>almost 40%
>>64337421Puccian pony club has been in effect since january, but I hear you. I'm not doing the math tho.
>>64337265Holy ban evasion
>>64337215>>64337215>to the point that russia is looking at importing fuel now.>Fact Check: True
>>64337446Wasn't selling fuel the fundamental of their economy?
>>64337446>Egypt will buy sand from foreign countries due to sand shortage
>>64337265Who must go?
>>64337136>40%I feel like it was just yesterday when vatniks were gloating it was barely 10%.
>>64337452Yep, they banned exports a while ago to service the domestic market. A crisis like this when its like...75%? of the economy is bad. Turnip winter bad.
>>64337452Yes, but to be fair, after TRD, Ukraine should switch to Total Ports Death. Which they're already doing.Refined oil is not the biggest chuck of the exports, crude is.
>>64337463(me)>>64337470Oh its "only" 60% lmao
>>64337463Hopefully it gets worse, I want to be able to mail order a loli bride (only way to get them HIV negative) from the former russia for like $1k.
>>64337169>russia losing more land than it conquered>while also losing it's entire future>what made this possibleukraine's capability and russia's incompetence, i guess.
>>64337483That kinda trauma just isnt worth it. Get a sex doll.
>>64337452It's a gas station without gas now
>>64337442he was posting Cerebral Palsy here earlier.
>the USSR started buying food
>>64337252Lel the other posts you made with the same user id got removed, so your posting with a seprate vpn you ban evading shitskin
>>64337407>A fall from the first floor can kill you if you happen to fall out the same window a few times in a row.True comrades shoot themselves in the back 30 or 40 times before jumping out the window. You're not a bad comrade are you anon?
>>64337338Man Dick is unironically too retarded to pull the 'delete my posts and pretend the mods are doing it to persecute me' thing. Cunt can't even speak English at all, he uses Google translate.
>>64337532You krokodil injectors have been saying this since the 60s.
>>64337532It's a race to see who rots faster, and Russia is world champion at rotting from the inside out. They've managed to collapse three times just since America was founded.But really, Russia isn't even in the same tier. It's pretty embarrassing really, it's like a third rate high school football team posing as if they're gonna do shit against a world cup champion team.
>>64337532>Soviet propaganda about the decaying West
What did he mean by this
>>64337500Doubtful. 4chan is legally obligated to report posts that posts CP to FBI (and thus Interpol), so, he wouldn't risk it even if he was on a VPN.
>>64337571Nah, the subhuman really did post that stuff on several occasions here. You have to remember, he's a serbshit. Do you really think those mongrels have any morals or that the law is applied there?
>>64337579Yeah, ive seen ziggers several times spam uhg with literall cp, chug is after all filled with lolis and shit like "small chests matter"
>>64337169>second military yon teh world can only send 30 storm-z mobiks to exploit crucial frontline breakthrough
>>64337470Thing is, refineries are complex machinery thats hard to replace. Ports are probably harder to hit. Maybe target the transport ships in port
>>64337620>passive-aggressive zigger pretends to be imaginary strawman in very passive-aggressive, feminine waythey always talk like women, don't they?must be because they were mainly raised by their mother or something.
>>64337579Mandic lives in Sweden, where they do care about it. He's Serbian but he's living in Sweden. He accidentally posted in a general on /sp/ with his name still on once.
>>64337198It's a defensive war. The fact that Ukraine managed to capture a Russian city at all was shocking, given that they were supposedly depleted and on the ropes, yet did a zerg rush and managed to hold that ground for so long that Russia had to beg North Korea to throw bodies at the problem since he didn't have enough of his own left over.
>>64337636>enough of his own left over.Putin literally just ordered 135,000 conscripts to be mobilised. Yes it's the bi-yearly harvest that has happened even before the war, but it's the largest autumn harvest in a decade (coinkydinky the last time it was this large was just after 2014 invasion lol).
>>64337532Maybe, but to use your comparison, by this point, all of Russia's flesh has rotted off, and the remaining bare, sun-bleached bones are slowly being eroded by the winds. Meanwhile, the West has barely started to putrefy.
At this rate Russia will finally take over Ukraine in a little over 3 centuries! Russia stronk, the west could never!
>>64337452The problem isn't extracting oil, but that their refineries are burning.
>>64337662I know a Russian who thinks he is fine because he has schizophrenia (and he literally breaks down and would die if his wife is away from the house too long) and won't be conscripted... I told him that schizophrenia got removed from the 'not fit for service' category earlier this year and he is now in category 'not fit for service... in peacetime'. So while I suppose technically he is fine because they're not 'at war' I dunno if he is eligible to be conscripted by this wave. I know if Putin declared it a war he has a huge amount of legal shit he can do (whether the serfs will accept is another question... answer; probably) that would mean he would be included but I dunno if it'll ever get to that stage. I told him to leave with his wife. He won't. Says he's fine. I know another Russian in some biggish company in Russia and I assume he is safe because Muscovite and works in Moscow and relative big company... But I wonder if he is worrying.Anyway all the flights out of Russia were packed, Russia-Turkey was full when it was announced kek.
>>64337627The problem with targeting ships (a goal I wholly approve of) is Turkey. The ideal would be to use USVs deployed from some mothership just as Ukraine has perfected in the Black Sea sinking vatnikistans navy there. So one can imagine producing a bunch more of those, putting them on some false flagged cargo ship identical to the way Russians have smuggling crude oil to evade sanctions, then cruising on over to a major russian port and surprise blapping everything (either that or if they think they could get away with it just autopiloting a cargo ship with like 4000 tons of ANFO hidden under grain or whatever into the middle of important harbor area and blowing it). But doing that requires getting stuff out of Ukraine to sea. That's hard in sufficient quanties with Turkey have banned channel usage for it.
>>64337348ukraines mil industry is booming with even first exports of hardware to buyers
>The Russian soldier is one of the bravest men in Europe. His tenacity almost equals that of the English and of certain Austrian battalions. As John Bull boasts of himself, he does not know when he is beaten. Russian squares of infantry have resisted, and fought hand to hand, a long while after the cavalry had ‘ broken them; and it has always been found easier to shoot them down than to drive them back. Sir George Cathcart, who saw them in 1813 and ‘14, as allies, and in 1854 in the Crimea, as enemies, gives them the honorable testimonial that they are “incapable of panic.” Beside this, the Russian soldier is well made, healthy, a good marcher, a man of few wants, who can eat and drink almost anything, and more obedient to his officers than any other soldier in the world.>And yet the Russian army is not much to boast of. Never, since Russia was Russia, have the Russians won a single battle against either Germans, French, Poles, or English, without being vastly superior in numbers. At even odds, they have always been beaten by any army, except Turks or Prussians; and at Citate and Silistria, the Turks, though inferior in numbers, defeated them.>The Russian, imitator as he is in everything, will do anything if ordered or compelled, but will do nothing if he has to act upon his own responsibility; in fact, this term can hardly be applied to a being who never knew what responsibility was, and who will go to be shot at with the same passive obedience as if he were ordered to pump water, or to whip a comrade. To expect from the Russian soldier, when acting on out-post duty or in skirmishing order, the rapid glance of the Frenchman, or the plain common sense of the German, would be an insult to him. What he requires is command-clear, distinct command — and if he does not get it, he will perhaps not go backwards, but he will certainly not go forwards, nor use his own senses.-- Friedrich Engels, 1855
>>64337745Honestly it's fucking wild how much quotes about the fucking vatniks from 50/100/150/200 years ago could have been written yesterday. It's such an utterly fucked society, despite centuries of industrial revolution and global upheaval and change it's basically the same mongol-raped feudal shithole.
>>64337252Hi manbitch
>>64337348Cope harder Holol, the Boris Johnson brigades have all been wiped out by this point.
>>64337630Why do these cocksuckers almost never actually live in the shitholes they shill for?
>>64337136>that bulge in the northMy god they’re trying to bunny again
>>64337198Who the fuck would want to control any % of russian wasteland
>>64337457You might laugh but that shit is true. Sand that has tumbled through rivers and deserts is smoothed by all the friction and becomes useless for using in cement/construction. The right kind of sand is valuable as fuck so long as it's coarse.
>>64337745The more things change
>>64337457yes? they do.
>>64337566Is this real?
>>64337136>What weapons made this possible?HIMARS firing GMLRS. Once in the mouth and then once in the ass.
>>64337841
>>64337252MANDICKSUCKER WILL NEVER ABANDON DEFEND HIS ROOSIAN BABYDADDIES. HE LOVES SUCKING MANDICKS TOO MUCH XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA
>>64337496>gas station without gasWe might be getting there now. They've banned gasoline hoarding at some gas stations in Moscow, claiming that new fire safety regulations forbid filling up loose canisters. If the station has gas to sell, you're allowed to fill up your car's tank, nothing else.There already was some discussion on Russian sites about modifying your car's fuel piping so that you could pretend to just fill up the car, but also fill a trunk full of gasoline canisters too.I'm sure these zigger rigged contraptions will not result in any explosive gasoline vapor incidents.
>>64337841>all these strong words>still coo's like a weak puppy if his alliance to russia is questioned.it's almost like he's trying to convince himself that his embarrassing slavery to the russian state is some sort of powerful manly thing.
Looks like half of the thread just got deleted due to zigger seething.
>>64337853no, belief is for ziggers, knowledge is for white people.
>>64337847>showing faceruh roh, raggy
>>64337463Winter is going to be very bad for them at this rate.
>>64337233They HAVE to. The only other option is to accept that 1.5 MILLION prime age Russian males dies for absolutely nothing at all.
>>64337853https://www.rbc.ru/politics/01/10/2025/68dd426c9a79475283697535?from=from_main_2So why are even russian news sources reporting on a strict 20 litre limit for Crimeans?
>>64337883Same with their demoralized Western supporters, they built their whole grift off Russia Strong
>had the best leverage for a favorable settlement months ago>totally blew it, alienated Orange Man, now in an overall worse position economically and militarilyreal monkey business
>>64337884According to official sources, this is a temporary disruption caused by seasonal demand, market volatility and scheduled and unscheduled infrastructure maintenance. Everything is under control.
>>64337627Blowing up filling terminals is extremely effective because there's not a lot, they're easy to disrupt, and the oil can't just stop being pumped.
>>64337784Because people who actually live in Russia are much more aware of the actual issues of Russia, rather than the idealised view that people get it online. Even the most patrotic Russian online is aware of issues. I'm a Bong (sad, I know) and I love my country but I can hands down say there are many many many MANY things wrong with it and things need fixing. I can criticise my government (at least at the moment, give them time) and tell people happily online that the UK sucks in lots of ways but still love it. For Russians, you can't go>Yeah Russia sucks in X Y Z but I like Q R T and while it sucks in X Y Z I still love it but understand why you don'tThey go>FUCK YOU RUSSOPHOBE YOU LYNCH NERGROS SHOOT SHOOTINGS ETC ETC ETCAnd you then take that kind of person out of Russia and then filter their perspective of Russia through online comments from Russians and apply weeb tier 'grass is always greener I wish I was Japanese ;_;' type mental illness you get people like Mandic.
>>64337764Imagine if you were Putin around 2021? >You have a massive wealth of natural resources, something of a heavy industrial base as well as a small but growing banking, IT sector as well as some high tech manufacturing in sectors like space tech-, mining and aerospace technologies>You've already managed to essentially annex parts of Georgia and Ukraine without pissing off the West too hard besides finger wagging, strong words and meaningless sanctions but otherwise it's business as usual>Finland and Sweden still neutral>Have access to most world markets >Still considered a major global influencer >Military image is still Battlefield and COD tier>Do you learn from history and try to consolidate by using soft power being content that you can pull off a successful Sudetenland annexation while maintaining the status quo and use soft power to calm shit down internationally and do an international PR campaign to impove image, calm things down while presenting yourself as gentle but stronk Russian bear?>Or do you kerp viewing things from an Imperialist master-slave realtionship, YOLO unprepared into the worst Russian military blunder since the Russo-Japanese war, destroying your international rep diplomatically along with your economy while slowly becoming the bitch of China?I just can't understand what the fucking long term thinking or strategy is here? It's like they can't help themselves.
>>64337906>according to official sourcesheh
>>64337893These people have long since switched to China or (lol) Saudi Arabia.
>>64337566The Ukrainians used to be called "Small Russians".He is gunning for total conquest.
>>64337463>they banned exports a while ago to service the domestic market.So, important part about that. They're not cancelling outstanding contracts for deliveries, just making sure no new contracts are signed. What this means is they're still exporting refined product for the time being. Hence the diesel shortages, even though Ukraine hasn't struck too much of that capacity when compared to gasoline.
>>64337908desperation for a saviour from problems in the west is also one, most of them are contrarians that genuinely think giving a genocidal shithole like russia free reign over europe and the US will SAVE THE WEST and only kill the nigs and trannies and jews.you know, ignoring the fact that russian political upper management is more jewish by blood than western ones by a wide margin, that they have imported far more browns than any other country in europe, and are more brown by percentage of population, that the entire country engages in a culture of stealth homosexuality, and that it has more HIV cases than some european countries have people.in the minds of these jobless losers, once the russian tanks roll in, they will be given a cushy job as the administrator or a right wing death squad.rather than being summarily executed because they're too political/opinionated and they always kill the traitors that helped them first as traitors will always betray again.
>>64337905Labubus are forbidden is russia, please understand.
>>64337917some are still going on the vatnik train, mostly the really schizophrenic ones. that don't have the brain plasticity to make a perspective shift of that magnitude.
>>64337912I don't understand why Russia keeps shooting itself in the foot. The invasion was unnecessary: in 2014, in 2022. They could focus on developing their resources, investing in technology, business, etc. Become a true superpower. On the other hand, that would mean no more stealing, no more corruption, and possibly becoming a real democratic state. Can't have that.
>>64337153Fighting Orcs is "one weird trick" to victory
>>64337198Hint: The Entente controlled 0% of Germany at the end of WW1.
>>64337932They gobbled down the 'no LGBTQIA+ stuff in kids shows' and read that as 'anti-globohomo' (ignoring that 1. globohomo doesn't mean what they think it means and 2. this does not mean being gay is illegal or anything) and that Putin would save the west if he just ordered his glorious army to march to Paris. The funny thing is Russia Today did articles calling people who had this idea that Putin would 'save the West' as idiotic barbarians who don't understand how Russia is a beautiful super diverse country that works, perhaps you should be like glorious Russia and you wouldn't have such issues with diversity?And so on. This means people outside of Russia focus on the headlines and what people spout (and Russia does a lot of propaganda and meddling to weaken the West and other nations; Zero Hedge is FSB funded and I'm still waiting on the Super Cancer AIDS that was meant to kill every 'vaxxed' person because they couldn't understand a graph nor context). But you don't need to tell the truth to weaken the West. COVID has done so much to fuck the health of the West, more than the retard Bong Doctor who started the whole vaccines = autism thing (he didn't even do it, people just misunderstood what he said, even though he was lying lol) and now we have vaccine resistant polio infecting people and measles and mumps and rubella are popping up in white people rather than the browns it used to be. So this means the West is now weaker for literally decades = potentially forever - which is 'good' for Russia because it means when their come to install their multipolar world, the west will be weak from diseases et al where they don't suffer from it (of course they do but you know what I mean - there are loads of civil unrest boosting twitter, instagram etc accounts run by Russians or by Russian paid proxies, specifically to cause civil unrest and division in the West. Scottish Independence movement is heavily funded by Russia).
>>64337452Now you know the TRUE reason for this war;) It was all about control of Europe's gas and oil supply. All the way back to the 2013 invasion. Russia made billions selling them gas, and spent countless millions making sure they were the sole controller of Europe's gas and oil supply. It is/was Russia's biggest trump card against the West.Ukraine signed deals with Royal Dutch Shale to supply Europe with gas. Crimea was stolen for that reason: gas and oil. 80% of Ukrainian gas deposits were in the Black Sea off the coast of Crimea. Jewtin can't afford that, as that is where his money and power comes from.https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-economy/2644538-ukraine-loses-80-of-oil-and-gas-deposits-in-black-sea-due-to-annexation-of-crimea.htmlhttps://sciendo.com/pdf/10.1515/bjes-2019-0027Russia used their useful idiot commies and environmentalists in Europe to ban fracking, drilling, nuclear power, etc. and pushed "clean energy" that is more expensive with less total power output so that Europe would be reliant on Russia oil and gas. Thinking that would be their golden trump card to do as they please, and all hey'd have to do is threaten to cut off EUs supply to get Europe to comply with Russian demands. Russia does the same in the US and Canada with fracking and pipelines. Watch vid:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azoooXsB7gs
>>64337957>64337912>developing their resourcesbut that would take money out of the "make the rich russian mafia elite richer" budget, that's a no-go.>investing in technologyless money for putin and friends, no-go>business>ALLOWING THE SERFS TO MAKE MONEYabsolutely fucking not, they'll be competition for our monopoly that keeps making us more money, defenestra-...err...suicide them out of a window now!>>64337962that's the spirit! the jewish russian elite needs MORE money, we can't just let regular russians live well, that's blasphemy.
>>64337976>this does not mean being gay is illegal or anythingwell, i mean, being OPENLY gay is fairly close to illegal in russia.being a repressed faggot that violently rapes other men and is raped by other violent men (b-but doesn't enjoy it!) is based and traditional and damn-near mandated by the state due to conscription.
>>64337274numbers are jewish you faggot
>>64337198>WE DID IT MY TSAR>WE CONTROL THIS VITAL AND INDUSTRIOUS TERRITORY NOW! GLORY TO RUSSIA!
>>64337978Holy shit somebody made a webm of the things I said day fucking 1 and way back in 2014. Glad somebody else realised this. Or maybe they read my posts.
>>64338004Careful, comrade.
>>64337912>the worst Russian military blunder since the Russo-Japanese warOh, we're well past that point. The demographic effects alone make this far more catastrophic than the Russo-Japanese War was.
>>64337978The TRUE reason for the war is that monke is a retard. Any other explanation is an attempt to evade that conclusion and make him seem like a 5d chess master who merely erred.
>>64337920When you call a place “Malo_____” like Kyiv was called “Malorussia” by the Orthodox Church in the Middle Ages, it doesn’t mean “subordinate to ____”, it means “the smallest division that can still be called _____”. “Core _____” is a better translation to modern vernacular English than “Little ____”Ukraine as “Malorussia” is an acknowledgement that Ukraine is the homeland and Moscow is a territory. 200 years ago, the moskovites used to seethe about this shit to no end.
By the way, whatever happened to those Koreans that got sent over? Did they all get droned yet?
Does Belgorod have electricity now?
>>64337912>I just can't understand what the fucking long term thinking or strategy is here? It's like they can't help themselves.It's Emperor's New Clothes syndrome, it's a fundamental long term failure mode of autocratic states. Inevitably power ends up with some dude who inevitably gets old, and he does enough bad shit to get and maintain his position that there is a strong likelihood and incentive to becoming paranoid and not wanting any replacements ready to go or other strong powers. Anyone who is disagreeable or too competent and seems a threat gets gradually purged, or else simply moves on to where they have more opportunity. Hard to avoid eventually being surrounded by sniveling courtesan yes-men types. You run tons of propaganda, and initially it's semi-ironic, you maintain a recognition of reality. But eventually the lies grow and grow and start to distort you too, and you get high on your own supply.Final result being someone literally disconnected from reality, who does seemingly mindblowingly retarded stuff because there is no one to tell them no, no remaining institutional mechanisms for course correction. And then the incentives all point towards digging deeper and deeper throwing good money after bad trying and hoping to make something of it because anything else will seem "weak" and prompt challengers, and then eventually all the blood & treasure spent becomes a self-propagating justification to spend more. How can you justify it without "victory"?It's why, for all is flaws, democracy and rule of law and institutions bigger then any one man or single election have proven to really matter long term. Everyone ends up with shit people in power sometimes. But over the course of centuries, what tends to get rid of them quicker?
>>64337446>day 1315 of the special decartelification operation >US prepares to import hamburgers
>>64338104Good summary. You major in history or political science as well?
>>64338104Thank you, Yang Wen-li.
>>64337841>1500 cubed vatniks a dayGod's, I hope not, that number is way too low.
>>64337912>the worst Russian military blunder since the Russo-Japanese warOh, not at all. This has gone far beyond military blunder, and even past the point of catastrophe. It is, in fact, rapidly approaching the "end of the country"-tier boundary.I'm fully convinced that the russian federation (which, despite all its skin-changing, was just a continuation of the soviet empire, which was just a continuation of the russian empire) will be gone by 2040, most of its component states having been (soft) annexed by China or gone independent.
>>64338194>It is, in fact, rapidly approaching the "end of the country"-tier boundary.Anon, the red revolutionaries/soviets achieved their first public win against the government when they kicked off a revolution during the latter hald of the R-J War.The real problem is that we can't allow Russia to disintegrate. Russia going poof means China gets to grow larger and all the nukes and nuke tech in Russia goes straight on the international black market.Russia tearing off all its limbs is fine, going vegetable is fine, but West will move mountains before we let that rotting shitpile die since it would cause a ton of preventable damage in the future.
>>64337784>The intensity with which they are held does not prevent nationalist loyalties from being transferable. To begin with, as I have pointed out already, they can be and often are fastened upon some foreign country ... But for an intellectual, transference has an important function which I have already mentioned shortly in connection with Chesterton. It makes it possible for him to be much more nationalistic – more vulgar, more silly, more malignant, more dishonest – than he could ever be on behalf of his native country, or any unit of which he had real knowledge. When one sees the slavish or boastful rubbish that is written about Stalin, the Red army, etc. by fairly intelligent and sensitive people, one realizes that this is only possible because some kind of dislocation has taken place. In societies such as ours, it is unusual for anyone describable as an intellectual to feel a very deep attachment to his own country. Public opinion – that is, the section of public opinion of which he as an intellectual is aware – will not allow him to do so. Most of the people surrounding him are sceptical and disaffected, and he may adopt the same attitude from imitativeness or sheer cowardice: in that case he will have abandoned the form of nationalism that lies nearest to hand without getting any closer to a genuinely internationalist outlook. He still feels the need for a Fatherland, and it is natural to look for one somewhere abroad. Having found it, he can wallow unrestrainedly in exactly those emotions from which he believes that he has emancipated himself. God, the King, the Empire, the Union Jack – all the overthrown idols can reappear under different names, and because they are not recognized for what they are they can be worshipped with a good conscience. Transferred nationalism, like the use of scapegoats, is a way of attaining salvation without altering one’s conduct.
>>64338005Someone post the 'bombed out shithole' copypasta
>>64337704Ukraine can send ships via the Danube and the German canal systems.Maximum draft for the MDK is 2.7m so not much for warships but modified freighters could work.Alternatively buy them overseas and prepare them in a country that Russia won't be able to strike.
>ziggers getting TRIPLE cauldron'dlmao
>>64338151based taste
>>64337407>>64337531russians are true gentleman, they close the windeow behind them when they jump out
>>64338238Spotted the American poster.Nobody gives a shit about nuclear weapons that will be past their expiration date in such an event. Seriously, what's with Amerika and this syndrome about saving Russia all the time? It has to be studied, and it should get a proper name, like the Stockholm syndrome.Every single problem in East Europe can be tracked to Russia being saved at the last minute when they should just die in famine. Every single problem in the West tracks down in a way or another from Russia.
>>64338194Could you imagine the German, Turkish and Polish Schadenfreude if Russia was reduced to 1613 or even 1533 borders by the end of this? Finns would have a hearty chuckle as well.
>>64338250>MEDIUM LEFT MEDIUM LEFT TURN TURN>TRIPLE CAULDRON>TRIPLE CAULDRON>STAY CENTER!
>>64338104I'll add as well that there are some unique modern twists. Traditionally peer war was indeed the ultimate final check on this sort of mad king/emperor thing, because war is the ultimate objective. Paper armies don't win, lies collapse. And having leadership lose touch with reality and spawn mass corruption does in fact weaken a power, then you end up becoming very disruptive to neighbors and the wider "geopolitical community" and eventually everyone has had enough of your shit and decides their own state interests push towards your removal. Casus belli is easy to manufacture at that point. Plus in the old world, more territory and sucking from more land was money and power.But industrialization and nuclear weapons have changed that. Rich nations grow and prosper within their own borders developing and via trade. Chaos is the big enemy. Everyone gets very comfortable, loses the habits of fighting, and of course nukes mean that even a decayed shithole country which would get curb stomped conventionally can potentially enact enough revenge damage (a single nuke even in the vague vicinity of a major city/economic center) as to ensure no payoff from war. So far, mass prosperity seems to have made it ever more politically difficult to recreate the conditions that lead to mass prosperity should things break down far enough. I have no easy answers to that one.>>64338130>You major in history or political science as well?No, I did some minor work, as well as group psychology particularly as applied to business and organizations, and just an avid autistic reader I guess. I've always been fascinated by governance, game theory, group dynamics and eco/military dynamics, going back to the Punic Wars, onto the Napoleonic wars and into modern times. It's pretty timeless stuff, humans are humans.
>>64338263I don't see Russia taking Kharkiv.
>>64338264meant for >>64338251
>>64338263>1533 borders>Finns would have a hearty chuckle as well.The Finns would still like Karjala.
>>64338263Is it just the map projection, or do those 1533 borders include a chunk of modern-day Finland? There might be some better dates to choose from.
>>64337976>They gobbled down the 'no LGBTQIA+ stuff in kids shows' and read that as 'anti-globohomo' (ignoring that 1. globohomo doesn't mean what they think it means and 2. this does not mean being gay is illegal or anything)I think a lot of that is really about creating a "legal" framework to allow the police to arrest anybody for any reason and basically if they just don't like you. These guys think that just gays will get it in the neck, but the "gay propaganda" law is just one of many laws that proscribe all kinds of "extremist" activities etc. which is defined so loosely that people can be imprisoned for just calling the war a "war." But if you're pro-SMO then it's fine unless you get too carried away. Putin has always said something like everything "must be done in accordance with the law" (it's almost a cliche he says it all the time), but that's bullshit because he doesn't care about following any laws, but the laws do exist for the sheep. Russian elite / celebrity culture is also probably as nakedly corrupt, decadent, and materialistic as ever and that's nearly four years into a hellish and delusional war.
>>64338310>Pillau 1635(1629)How does that work?
>>64338247... that explains a lot
>>64338263I think it'd be broadly positive at this point, at least assuming the west was organized, decisive and quick enough (and this would be a genuine case for trying to seek cooperation with the Chinese too temporarily) to move promptly to seize all the most dangerous nuclear/bio and such toys. A broken up balkanized Russia would be far less of a threat to the rest of the world and less likely to cause any direct damage. But it'd still be full of russians and still be a poverty and corruption ridden mess with almost mindblowingly shit demographics. There'd be plenty of ongoing messes, undoubtedly international crime would setup shop big time so that'd be a constant irritation for surrounding countries, regular refugee crises, all the typical. Europe shares a direct land border after all, they don't have even the buffer that the med and 3rd party countries offer like it does with Africa.So yeah a hearty chuckle would be well deserved, but I suspect there'd also be a certain resigned grimness to the Germans/Poles/Nordics/Turks and even the Chinese chuckles after the first few.>>64338340You've probably heard it before, but there's a famous latin american quote by a general from Peru named Oscar Benavides:>"For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law."which is basically exactly how monke operates.
>>64338340I mean vague and nebulous laws aren't particularly strange. The UK made a law about 10 years ago which, law as written, makes tea, coffee, energy drinks, cigarettes etc illegal. Because it is a substance that 'causes changes to the chemical makeup of the body'. Since, caffeine obviously does. The new and draconian Internet Safety Act can put you in prison for two years if you 'post anything that causes undue distress' which is so vague and nebulous that it could apply to anything. Ireland has a similar law except it goes a step further where simply HAVING the image on your devices is illegal.
>>64338083https://youtu.be/NbKG2ZpAyI4?si=mF2J1cuOpaSh1piD
>>64337209they even left placeholder plates in the end for future additionsgood design, reminds me of "this tread has no comments yet, be the first to comment"
>>64337136>What weaponCorruption and Incompetence ain't weapons.
>>64337209>>64338384
>>64338344Maybe the map got the dates backwards somehow?Looking at Wikipedia, Pillau (known as Baltiysk after 1946) was taken by the Swedes in the Thirty Years' War in 1626, during the Polish-Swedish War. The Swedes kept it in a truce in 1629, but the harbor town's citizens managed to raise a ransom of 10,000 thalers and the town was returned to Brandenburg-Prussia in 1635.
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>>64337136Cool to see an actual cauldron in the modern day.
>>64337209I'm genuinely surprised there's a memorial at all. Still, even odds some government stooge will have it removed because the number of names hurts Russia's image.
>>64338451Nta. You don't understand the mentality here. Memorial = good, just like WW2, symbol of unjust suffering inflicted by them crazy Ukies.
OH NO NO NO fresh food stamps law
The Vietnam memorial in DC is just a wall of the names of those the US lost in ‘nam. And it’s only like 60k names and it’s already pretty big. Imagine if Russia actually gave a shit and did something like that for their dead in the Ukraine war, that wall would be massive,
>>64338238>all the unmaintained and degraded warheads>all the half century old tech (what hasn't been smuggled to Iran or dismantled in the former SSR it resided in)Here's a better idea, just pay the most for that shit.>billion dollars for a MIRV>Hundred million for a feasible warhead>Ten million for a probable dudYou'd have russian missile forces lined up for miles for the chance to get an easy life by selling out.>but terrorists couldWhy would anyone sell to a bunch of low balling jihadis when the US is offering top dollar, no questions asked, for a fifty year old inoperative chunk of degraded plutonium?>but that would be expensiveFar cheaper than the economic damage caused by them falling into someone else's hands.
>>64337438I hope it gets to 100% and stays there for a good while before russia crumbles.
>>64337136So is Russia trying to cauldron the cauldron? Because the right flank look bigger than used to
>>64337906>unscheduled infrastructure maintenance.Well they're not wrong.They just forgot to mention 40% of the infrastructure needs serious maintenance, which they can't do, because it got attacked
>>64338498>Here's a better idea, just pay the most for that shit.I get the feeling this would actually work. Drive Russia to poverty, secretly offer moneyz in exchange for nuclear capabilities promising not to tell anyone, pull reverse Iran-Contra on them.
Uh oh, zisters what's our response?Good thing it's a ground war, not a money war.
>>64338488>fresh food stamps lawDoes that say July 2 ?
>>64338549It says August 22 and July 2. Source: am fluent.
>>64338549something like an act from August 22nd in regards to another act from July 2nd
>>64338547Trump needs to start publicly blasting the EU for sitting on the frozen assets.>THEY JUST HAVE MONEY THEY'RE NOT DOING NOTHING WITH!? ARE THEY STUPID!?Would be kino.
>>64338549>>64338559+ It doesn't actually say the law has been passed. It's a response to a deputy of the Duma saying the project of a food stamps law proposed by this deputy has been reviewed and found to be confusing at best, leading to double regulations and inconsistencies.
>>64338238>Russia going poof means China gets to grow larger and all the nukes and nuke tech in Russia goes straight on the international black market.and? so what? pozzia going poof means an end to vatnik imperialism that is guaranteed to degenerate into nuclear exchanges if its allowed to fester. Some defunct nooks without arming codes lying around is not going to change anything. Nuclear crap was lying all over former vatnik union in the 90s and turns out the world did not end (you) and the jake sullivans in the world are the spineless pussies responsible for making this grind drag on as long as it has. Instead of swiftly finishing it in 2022/23 when monke was caught with his pants down
>>64338498>>64338544I honestly think plain old economics and bribery has become underrated in the West for intelligence agencies. Not everything needs to be some complex cloak and daggers shit or military operation or sanctions even (though that might help). It's ultimately a ludicrously corrupt top to bottom kleptocracy that is also (by western standards) poor as fuck. Just fucking pay them off. Don't spend a trillion on magic missile shields spend $100b corrupting them and simply have all the nukes delivered to you postage paid.
>>64338262I agree and its really, really weird. Worst part is that this US simp complex is making the situation much more dangerous then it would have been with swift resolutions. By all accounts the volga mongols should have been finished off 80 years ago by the germans. After which US/UK would roll in to finish off the overstretched and bled out germs.Instead not only saved the ones that started the war together with the germans but allowed the imperial expansion to reach sights unseen. Now are in complete surprised pikachu mode when vatniks turn that conquest into a state sanctioned death cult. Even in 2022 ukranians did a masterful job hitting the vatniks on their asses. Instead of capturing the momentum and ending it fast there was endless "escalation management" with every piece of hardware or permission given with shaking hands. Now the fronts are grinded in a stalemate while zegroids are hatching plans to open a second front in the baltics. While internally russia is increasingly unstable between the degenerating economy and the shaky ground their all powerful tzar is standing on
>>64337452a lot of what they sold was crude oil (and gas), not refined petroleum product.Exxon and Shell tried opening more refinery facilities there in the 00s, but all the retarded mobster bullshit drove them away. As a result, Russia has comparatively little refining infrastructure compared to other oil and gas states, and most of that is for domestic use.
>>64338596>>Russia going poof means China gets to grow larger and all the nukes and nuke tech in Russia goes straight on the international black market.not him, but come to think of it, China being able to waltz into Russia might be more of a poison chalice for them than we realize. The Chinese, though they still have corruption, do actually give a shit about things being functional, so imagine the amount of fucking money and resources they'd have to pour into Russia to actually fucking make shit work.
>>64337745They should have that quote on a billboard at engels air base
>>64338194looking forward to seeing Tatarstan gain independence. They would have been turned into another chechnya in the 90s if they did not accept the "autonomous oblast" deal. Which monke has functionally completely abolished of course
>>64338194close. its more of a "end of muscovite imperialism" tier. The gigantic war in ukraine is literally for or against continuing the muscovite empire (TM)
>>64338625The only explanation I can think of that doesn't involve politicians being spineless cowards at best and outright bought and paid for by puccia at worst is that it's some 500000 IQ play to completely demilitarize Russia at no (manpower) cost to the west because they are literally so fucking stupid they will continue committing mass suicide by cop until their entire nation collapses.Because yes, it's downright insulting that Ukraine didn't get direct military support as soon as the zigroid hordes were expelled from Kyiv and the Ukrainian people showed they were willing to die to not be Russian and they literally gave up their nuclear arsenal in exchange for a security guarantee that's been shown to be not even worth using as toilet paper, thus showing the entire fucking world that the only security guarantee worth a fucking penny is "we have nukes and will erase your capitol if you fuck with us".
>>64338612China is holding Russia by the balls. Otherwise it would be easier for the US to buy off a chunk of the government, assassinate monke, and install a puppet regime. I mean, it has been done before. Numerous times. This one would be a bigger operation but still very much the same in principle.
>>64338649chang imperialism does not work that way. see "belt and road initiative" which ultimate successes were debt trapping the scammed into unpayable servitude they had to back up with their true value assets (ports/resources etc). In exchange for shoddy infrastructure that immediately fell apart and never even employed any locals as they imported all of their workers from china. That lived in closed off barracks and being true stingy chinese, never spent a single cent on any locals (like food).Also hefty bribes to the local aristocracy Same is going to be done to russia. Suck them dry for every penny worth without giving anything useful in return. Only enough to keep their vassalized muppets in power
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>>64337781>organism that reproduces via sporification>organism that can regrow itself from severed limbs, even down to a single finger>"Wiped out"
>>64337841>Belgorod was struck by HIMARS yesterday!That must be a nice change of pace.
>>64338665from what I have gathered its a mix of complete naivete, enforced by the fact most americans are sitting physically behind two gigantic oceans and never ever venture to the other side. I think over half americans dont even own a passport. So they lack life experience to understand foreign and alien mentalities like vatnikism. Easily falling into the noob mistake of thinking everybody must be like them. Like by all account ukraine is the literal embodiment of the second amendment red blooded american, "give me freedom or death" mentality that was created to fight invading tyrants by any means necessary. yet you have the largest conservative block in US openly slurping RT propaganda straight from its anus The other component is the mercator map projection, which makes Russia look unnaturally big, which most everyday people are really not aware off. So they think that empty wasteland really is that gigantic in reality and thus must be powerful. Because how can they be so big if they were not big and strong? Final component is the cold war fearmongering propaganda and old boomers in their 70s/80s that have fossilized brains and are physically unable to change. Russia=soviet union=world ends if US and SU/Russia exchange fire. Because that is what has been told to them since they were toddlers
>>64338413More corpses.
>>64338625>Instead not only saved the ones that started the war together with the germans but allowed the imperial expansion to reach sights unseen. Now are in complete surprised pikachu mode when vatniks turn that conquest into a state sanctioned death cult.And after WW2 the soviets instigated 80% of the world's shit. From the war in Korea, to the modern commie china regime, to supporting subhuman regimes all across the world in the middle east in africa. So many deaths, so much shit, just because US swept in to save the muscovite faggot regime.
>>64338722It's what some could call "reverse lookism", as in a form of "reverse racism": americans look at russia and russians (especially those which carefully filter down to them) and see white europeans and thus instantly subconsciously think "these are the same people as us, same normal europeans, not some wild ching-chong niggers", while in reality it's nowhere close to the truth because the underlying cultural core of russia is in a fact a mongoloid asiatic despotic regime.
>>64337764Been reading a book on the Soviet propaganda used to justify the Winter war. Nothing has changed in Moscow. Back then they insisted it was the nefarious Ango-Saxons who pushed Finland into attacking Soviet Union, and thus forced Stalin to create a security buffer around Leningrad by taking over Finland.
>>64338238Who cares if China gets some shitty mine-covered land? Worse case scenario we do to Russia what we did to Japan and leave a garrison in Moscow to teach them how to behave and then let them off on good behavior once they organize their shit.
>>64338775This stuff all makes sense when you remember that Russia idolised/continues to idolise Jewish Bolsheviks as if they were the builders of their civilization, so it wouldn't make sense to be antisemitic and blame the jews for everything wrong, so they had to find another scapegoat.
>>64337881Which means it will be very hilarious for usReminder that in the first two years of this war when Puccia was desperate for Europe to freeze, we got record mild winters while they got constant blizzardsProof (as if more were needed) that God hates Russia.
>>64338788>This stuff all makes sense when you remember that Russia idolised/continues to idolise Jewish BolsheviksYour intel is stale and no longer relevant. They love the dead Tsar and the old Russian Empire now. Yes, they do worship Stalin at the same time. No, they don't see the problem with worshiping both simultaneously.
>>64338805>>64337881HoHoHo, Дeд Mopoз is coming again.
>>64337136What really impresses me is that oil refineries are the entire base of the russian existence so you'd expect them to have several layers of their best anti-air systems protecting them, but no, Ukraine has been taken them out with fucking jerry-rigged Cessnas 172. I could accept it if Ukraine was hitting them with whatever stealth wunderwaffle supersonic cruise missiles, but no, they are getting obliterated by commercial drones and bootleg trainer planes. How the fuck is this possible?
>>64338544That's basically what we did when the USSR dissolved - pay the locals to decommission, sell, or transfer their NBC stocks/labs. I don't seem to recall any major nuclear terrorisms in the past 35ish years, so it can't have been a total failure.
>>64338788But Stalin could not blame the fascists of warmongering Finland into attacking Soviet Union, because Stalin and Hitler were still besties at that point. That's why there were several articles and political cartoons about the Ango-Saxon danger festering in Helsinki. Absolutely crazy stuff to read when watching modern vatniks talking about biolab cloned Boris commandos.
>>64338821The defenses were drafted with elaborate-looking pencil drawings, but when the time for funding allocation came the money mysteriously evaporated.
>>64338821Why would you put in several layers of the best AA systems for a hundred million dollars when you could steal 60 million dollars, use another 39 million to bribe everyone else down the chain, and claim on paper you put in AA systems instead?
>>64338821Protecting your assets is gay. If you're protecting your assets, you're afraid to lose them, which makes you a sissy. In all seriousness, Russian AA capabilities are stretched thin. They can't afford to protect every refinery and probably bet on Russia being too big for Ukraine to reach deep into the eastern parts of the country.
Boris Jonhson
>>64338821Remember that there was an extensive campaign by Ukraine to defang Russian AA capability. Even if Russia did have those assets at the start of the war, a lot of them are craters in Crimea now. As well... you really can't deploy these things all through your extreme backline. You'd need loads and loads of shit for that. Not even the U.S. could deploy AA around every single important economic asset. Ideally you have a very thorough front-facing screen that your opponent has to weave through/can't brute force but, again, Ukraine spent a lot of time and effort thinning that screen over the course of the war.
>>64337912>strategyPutin is not a strategist.That said he had strong indicators that EU would continue to do nothing and had no idea how corrupted his spies in Ukraine were.It's kinda understandable how someone in his position could've made such a fatal error.
>>64338821>wtf how could this happen russian airspace in impregnable!!!1Mathias Rust.
>>64337463>>64337881>>64338805I can't wait for more winter hilarity like this.
>>64338853What was the deal with the spies in Ukraine? In what way were they corrupt? They gave false info about how all Ukrainians would welcome them with open arms to overthrow their government because they were yes men and didn't want to get fired or what?
>>64338841>They can't afford to protect every refinerySurely they now have an easier time to decide.
>>64338871remember when Europe was supposed to freeze to death?
>>64338435>Budanov not on top in CBOYou had one job.
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>>64337233>10% of that was controlled pre-2022 invasion too
>>64338805Remember the Hamsters!
>>64338816>they don't see the problem with worshiping both simultaneously.It's not that they don't see the irony, they just don't careIdeology isn't the reason why they worship the Tsars or Stalin, they worship them because they symbolize power, and being, or at least looking powerful is the only thing that matters to a russian
>>64338874Essentially that.Many held no allegiance to Russia. Some were even pro-west and allegedly had undermined Russia's goals in Ukraine all the way back in Euromaidan days.It's not well documented at this time and probably won't be before Putin is dead or deposed.
>>64337277>Oh look, the cum /chug/ging cuckold has got off his bottle and waddled over to shit up /k/ again.poet lmao
>>64338904i cant read that
>>64338904fuck wrong pic>>64338910sorry
>>64338888I lost count of how many pet hamsters I was forced to eat.
>>64338913An actual lostech civilization.
>>64338874There is indeed a certain... category... of person in Ukraine who was so buckbroken by the Russian imperialist narrative they see Europe as the enemy and Russia as their savior from homosexuality (EU = gay marriage), oppressive Kyiv (noooooo don't make me speak Ukrainian in Ukraine!!!!), and other such evils. It must have been very easy to use some of these idiots to paint a picture their boss wanted to see. Organize a few anti-Maidan rallies in Odesa, take some photos, voila. Additionally, there exist to this day members of the Ukrainian parliament who are known Russian assets/shills. Since their money came from Moscow, they must have felt the need to inflate their importance and odds of success.That's what I think.
>>64338821Because they unironically believed the "war" would take three days.
>>64338888I planned ahead and have been breeding hamsters since spring, let's go winter!
>>64338962>breeding hamsters Is this what they meant about NATO biolabs?!
>Near Pokrovsk, the situation on the front line is changing dramatically. Due to difficult weather conditions, strong winds, and unstable skies, the enemy cannot effectively use drones, and mass infantry attacks are accompanied by serious losses.>This was reported by RBC-Ukraine, citing a statement by Maxim Bakulin, press officer of the 14th Brigade of the National Guard's “Chervona Kalyna” operational task force.>According to Bakulin, the main reason for the changes is the weather. There is no clear sky at the moment, but instead there is wind, which is blowing away a large number of drones.>He explained that both the Russians and the Defense Forces now need to adapt to this situation. In addition, the occupiers have other problems that they cannot cope with - when they advanced en masse with their infantry, they did not have time to bring up their firepower.>@And now we see that they are losing a huge number of personnel every day. I am only looking at what our brigade is doing. They are now “going all out.” They are surrounded, they are suffering huge losses, and they have logistics problems. Accordingly, we will have something to say, but we must see it through to the end," said the soldier.Source: rbc ua, 14 hours ago
>>64338238there are no nukes
>>64338962As long as we have trafalgar square we will not starve.
>>64338821russia is too big to protect. if they moved air defences away from moscow's elite's suburbs and putin's palaces, the ukies would attack those! monke in charge is more scared of the elites than the peasants, because the rich can get to him.
>>64338913At least those kits were stored properly and are in acceptable conditions; we've seen moldy first aid kits.Besides, those stay sterile for at least 5 years. I'm sure a 50 year old soviet kit is just fine!
>>64338991>monke in charge is more scared of the elites than the peasants, because the rich can get to him.Funny considering the Tsars thought the same thing. All it takes is a few snubbed middle manager types with ambition to stir the pot and suddenly those peasants have their herd mentality turned directly at one point. Hell we literally saw a certain bald meme man just drive straight there, did the Russian People form a defensive militia for their dear leader? How different do you think it would have gone if instead of "not my problem, excuse me mr. tank I need to sweep some trash here, ok thanks good luck with the coup" they thought "yeah FUCK YOU putin!"
>>64338973How bad are 12-16mph winds for drones?
>>64338973>the main reason for the changes is the weather. There is no clear sky at the moment, but instead there is wind, which is blowing away a large number of drones.It's humbling to see that no matter how technologically advanced we become as a species, we are always going to be subjected to the whims of Nature, in war as in other things>they are losing a huge number of personnel every day.Let's hope the ukrainians have enough ammo to take care of all of them. Sadly I doubt they'll have the means to exploit the eventual failure of this russian offensive
>>64338660>two more stones already set upGrim
>>64338721Is electricity back in that shithole? I want them to live in the dark forever
