Is anyone developing drone shield?>drones with proximity fuses that go off when they see something moving quickly towards them) (or something like that) and explosives basically just make an bubble around the ship.>drones explode whenever they see any incoming missiles>move out of the way for outgoing>go back to the shit to recharge, and get replaced by another one when they do it>alternatively, you could use tethered drones., but that has other issues, i would thinkWhy aren't we funding this? It seems like a great counter to ASMs
>>64338148Thanks for the input. Extremely enlightening comment
>>64338125how much weed did you smoke where you think this is a good idea?>duuuude>brooooo>what if like, a shield, but like, made out of drones
>>64338195I smoke almost no weed (once every few years, then I instantly regret it). The idea is essentially ERA for carriers.
>>64338181>>64338206desu i don't really think it deserves a better response>why would the ship with a bunch of AEGIS sensors on it that don't want to be blocked by anything have a problem with +10.000 sized swarm of drones darkening it's skies.not to mention that you'd have to carry all of these fucking drones.imagine the weight and volume of putting a giant plastic dome around a shipnow store that inside the fucking shipcome on anon, nobody should have to point this out to you. and maybe i am being a bit mean and condescending because i just got home from work and i'm tired, but i don't really care.
>>64338213Fucking up the Radar makes sense, but you might be able to program them or offboard your radar (basically have the radar and targeting systems offboard the ship in drone ships or in DSTs sort of like the AA rings in WW2 or the loyal wingman concept for fighter planes) but I don't think it would actually weigh that much relatively speaking. The biggest weight thing would probably be the explosives. As far as volume goes, you can probably engineer around that.The Aegis system is certainly the biggest hurdle, but if we are completely redesigning our fleet structure anyways (bringing back BBs), I don't see it as insurmountable
>>64338125Skunkwerk project aerofisherman
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>>64338125BROOOOO
>drone shieldwhat next we strap guns to whales?
>>64338125How is this any better than keeping the interceptor drone on the ship and only firing it precisely into the path of the missile? You can even put a rocket motor on it so it goes faster
>>64338741You just described an interceptor missile (they should have those too). Its because the drones are just sitting there. No need for super-precise radar and locking systems. It's cheap and would be effective, I think.>>64338690Based artist
>>64338125Light combat helicopters are the only way, armored and armed with small calibre guns, more on maneuverablility than pure firepower, obviously will have to be escorted by heavy gunships to take out enemy anti air if the enemy has such capabilities
>>64338125we should fund birth control for your parents instead so that they dont make any more retards like you
>>64338213Modern ships don't really use RADAR anymore. It's far more efficient to have AIs looking through lots of telescopes, basically.
>>64338918They wouldn't use it. It's against their religion and they have more than 5 kids, most of them married, and none of them use birth control. We will populate the earth with autism
>>64338954Nice fucking necrobump on this turbo shit thread, faggot
>>64338942No?You’re retarded.
>>64338942Are you actually fucking retarded
I think it could work. Lots of armchair generals in here with their "BUT WE DIDN'T NEED DRONES IN WW1" ASS ARGUMENTS
>>64338986You’re welcome, you childless faggot
>>64338690since we are in the topic of whales...
>>64339550Dew it
>>64338125They maybe bring back barrage balloons for this?
>>64338996>>64339010People believe this shit because of a comically wrong Elon Musk twitter post about how optical sensors made stealth aircraft obsolete. It now has a life of its own, reproduced and evolves in the wild.
>>64338125>>64338785>Its because the drones are just sitting there.How will a stationary microdrone stop a 1250kg AShM travelling at 500kts from impacting the ship it's defending? Even short range last ditch air defence SAMs like the RIM-166 weigh 75kg, travel at mach 2 and have 75kg of explosives. If the answer is "Set off the fuze" then congrats the adversary changed the fuze when you deployed this and that doesn't work. If the answer is trashing the sensors with blast or frag then that doesn't work even if it isn't already on a terminal intercept course because of datalinking. If the answer is an aerodynamic kill from frag causing a crash then your dense drone shield needs to be kilometers from the ship or else momentum is still going to carry any missile with an appropriate attack profile to impact.So how does it work? Also how are you going to fire out of your swarm?>>64338246>if we are completely redesigning our fleet structure anyways (bringing back BBs)We aren't. It's a retarded thought bubble from a man who knows literally nothing at all about ships, shipbuilding, munitions, armor or warfare.
>>64339899>that last bitNo you don't understand. Can you imagine how kino a nuclear powered battleship the size of a Ford class armed with DEW and enough missiles to single handedly wipe out a small city would be? It would be so kino. We could even put figureheads and all kinds of the cool shit we used to on it back when navies had style.
>>64339899>1250kg AShM travelling at 500ktsAnd that's a friendly AShM: Western stuff is built better and smarter but lighter and slower. Heaven forbid I ask about a legacy threat AShM like a 7000kg P700 going 800kts in terminal phase, let alone contemporary threat AShM like a 1700kg YJ18 going at 2300kts or, shock and horror, a contemporary AShBM like a 2000kg YJ21 going at 4000kts.
>>64339899OP here. This answer actually makes sense and everyone else calling this idea stupid is a gay retard.Thank you
>>64339934That already exists. It's called an Ohio Class SSBN refitted for conventional strike (SSGN). Three were refitted this way. They have far more armor than any BB that could even be constructed: Hundreds of meters of RHA equivalent in salt water between them and any shell or missile that's fired at them. Unlike steel armor, this armor is so thick that it can actually protects against HEAT, and it even doubles as RAM and camoflage giving stealth properties.BBs have been gay and obsolete for more than a century at this point. They were obsolete as soon as torpedoes were designed and the munroe effect was discovered. Jutland showed that destroyers with torpedoes could completely stop battleships from decisively winning a battle. Once air launched torpedoes existed battleships couldn't even joint battle without being crippled and they were relegated to oversized AA escort cruiser duty for aircraft carriers. Once AShM were invented they were a liability even for that and had to be retired.Botes are cool, but battleshipfaggotry is niy.
>>64339934>Can you imagine how kino a nuclear powered battleship the size of a Ford class armed with DEW and enough missiles to single handedly wipe out a small city would be? It would be so kino.>battleship that doesn't even have guns for main armament>kinoThoughtless BB nostalgia is the lowest hanging shitpost fruit of all, and somehow you still managed to fuck it up.
>>64338206>essentially ERA for carriers.No. It really, really isn't.
>>64339999>>64339934To point out just how insanely effective and efficient this armor layout is:Ohio SSGNs each carry 154 offensive attack cruise missiles (Tomahawks), and they carry zero defensive armament.Kirov BCs could only carry 20 offensive missiles (P700s) and had to devote space for about 150 defensive SAMs, despite displacing nearly 50% more than Ohios, to compensate for not having the superior "all or nothing pressure hull water armor" layout.The Iowa refits displaced nearly 300% more than an Ohio SSGN but only had space for 32 ABL Tomahawks due to the armor and defensive armament (which is what even 16in was, generously, in 1980).A 100,000t BB in 2030, if it had guns, would probably have fewer offensive missiles than an Ohio. If it didn't have guns then it wouldn't be a BB any more than an Ohio already is, but in that imaginary case my very rough napkin maths based on scaling Iowa and Yamato to 100k tonnes is that you would probably only get 150-200 tomahawk cells anyway, if you were devoting no large VLS space to long range SAMs and if your DEW took up almost no deck space by mostly being festooned on the superstructure and waists.God the whole thing seems so fucking stupid.
>>64338125>What if we made CIWS but shitty???
>>64338785>No need for super-precise radar and locking systems.[Source: Needed]>It's cheap and would be effective, I think.yeah
>>64340133>God the whole thing seems so fucking stupid/k/ in a nutshell. This should be on a new banner.
>>64338125>read drone shield >think anti drone>anon means a meat shield but made of drones>mfw
>>64338125What if the airburst drones moved at mach 2 and could be directed by radar and we could have multiple stations that can rapidly throw twenty a second or more at the missile? Like some sort of Close Defense Weapon System...
